@@RoriLogan no because the developer said there will be necer the bug armies like total war.Castles should definitly the top priority. And by the way its easy in the actual game to make a army with 1000 man plus ...
G'day Raptor, A note on Veggie patches, Apples and yields: if the families who live in these plots are busy, large parts of the harvest are lost, especially for apples as they can only be harvested in September. So what I do to maximise the value is to make sure that these plots always have the extra living space and ensure that at least one of the families is unassigned. This takes a bit of micro and assumes you have the population to spare, but the value per family is stunning in terms of food output. For the apple plots, those families can be re assigned to other tasks after harvest season, just don't forget to free them up come end of next August. While this may seem like a loss of work force, they have a job, they are providing bulk food, and this is worth more than an extra family for hunting, woodcutting, trading etc in my opinion. 1 morgen is totally doable for veggies and apples can be bigger, so I'm not sure on the limits. This is obviously just my observations and I'm hardly thorough, so ill admit there will be things that I've not considered. However, this has been really effective for my towns so far (not mega cities, mostly between 500-1000 pop). I've needed far fewer apple and veggie plots thanks to the increased yields, meaning more pigs, goats and eggs for passive yields. At 20 pig plots I'm getting 200ish sausages per year costing me a little in salt but nothing my exports can't easily cover. While its not much, it adds up and keeps variety without spending any development points.
Not sure there but mechanically that over the default can be exploited IME with high yield zone. So if the default was 10 units say you could increase that to get more benefit on those zones. At least I think that what I observed.
So a few things: 1. Spoilage has changed and anything in market stalls is going to spoil exponentially faster than if it is in the granary. Recommend minimizing market stalls, as the remaining granary workers will distribute goods to houses. 2. Goats and pigs do not scale with burgage plot size. And the reason they don’t “consume” food to breed is essentially because they are factored into the household(s) they are attached to for food consumption. Only pastured animals can reproduce beyond the per family limit of 2, and right now only sheep and lambs can be pastured. 3. A good way to balance foods and prevent starvation is to diversify beyond the minimum 3-4 types for level 2/3 burgages. For example, you can have two staples (veggies and apples, for example) that are plentiful and easy to mass accumulate, and then diversify 2-3 additional types like meat, eggs, fish, or honey that don’t need to be mass produced to keep everyone happy.
Wish he'd fix the baron. Still has the tendency to snowball early on and have half the map by the time you get 5 houses up and steamroll you from there. People say rush camps early, but I fail to see how sending 10 unarmed guys to their death is gonna help anything.
For me what's missing at this point is bigger battles, because once you reach population of around 300 people, whole battle system loses its point. AI is never that strong to stand against you and that's your army from only 1 region. And challenging mode is also a bit unrealistic, having only 5 families who demand tavern with ale and you never reach that 50% to add up population dunno why is it there?
The dev needs to change how food works massively. The problem with meat is that it counts as a unit just as apples or eggs do. If a family consumes one meat they should get a lot more nutrition than from eating an apple, thus slowing down food consumption.
And this is historically accurate, which I know is something they prefer to err toward - only wanting to simplify for gameplay mechanics when necessary or onerous. Meat was a privilege for nobility in medieval Europe I think all the way into the the last 100-200 years when industrial agriculture came around.
@@nickmhc No it wasn't, that's a common misconception. Every Village was butchering pig/cattle every year to sustain them with animal fats, bacon and meat. Most of the meat was salt cured, dried and/or smoked to last them all year round. (In rural southern germany we still salt cure meat and hang it in the chimney to smoke and preserve, like we did for hundreds of years)
@@WoofyMcDoodle It's not "one apple" or "one egg". It's a months supply of that source, several kilograms. One single hen usually lays 3-4 eggs a week. And a large garden (you can build quite massive ones in the game) produces A LOT of vegetables. This can easily compare with the meat of one animal.
nah, the update that will really make a difference is the map generator; i haven't played it in a while because I don't want to get bored/sick of the game
The Dev pace is slow but that's the nature with this model. I will say this, yes the template is well know for this genre but their execution utilizing modern tech and techniques has been great.
TBH I would have played a lot longer if the entire map was accessible as one parcel, maybe with different marked territories, but able to be expanded as an extension of or brought into the fold of your town. I know what the dev intended with the game, I'm just saying I get very bored the instant my town is maxed out and I have to start another one in another territory. I'd rather face some kind of rivalry with another ruler for infringing on a neighboring territory and have to fight off attempts to take it back, than simply fight some tiny battle and implant new villagers that can only trade resources back and forth. It's very redundant. Also the broader market is completely unbalanced and never feels relevant.
I used to host LAN parties in Switzerland for 150 people back in the day. I had a blast playing Stronghold with people next to me or in the same room. ( ＾▽＾)
I would love for the horses to be converted to cavalry. It would make unit types way more relevant and make the enemy AI feel more threatening if you're going to spam crossbows
Same. I played a bit when it first released in alpha. Absolutely gorgeous, music is spot on, and setting is unlike anything I've seen. But I stopped playing because I don't want to burn out on it, so I'm waiting until the game gets updated more before trying it out again. I did buy to support the dev as I think it's absolutely amazing game, idea, and the fact only 1 man made it is incredible. Makes you wonder why AAA studios don't release MUCH better games than the crap they put out.
@@studogg343 i play alot of games like these anyways ie (rimworld, going medieval, etc) this game looks amazing but the features need work, for example there simply needs to be more units, buildings, animals, features for water like mills other shit dams etc. the base game looks insanely good just needs more content and features to match. just hoping and waiting.
13:44 I would love to see a mechanic to restructure burgage plots So you can resize gardens later if you don’t need them anymore and want to build something new in the extension Houses stay in place
So cool, how the game goes ahead step by step. One day I hope we will get goose too. And the possibility to set your skill tree back. And to build a fish pond (even for the ones who didnt want to restart now).
The accuracy of meat & fish being hard to get is realistic, as most peasants of the period did get most of their protein from plant sources - most meat was for the wealthy! Beans and pulses made up a very high percentage of protein for the ordinary folk in those days. So complaining about the realism of the modelling sucks and is not in the spirit of Manor Lords. Yes, you need a lot of people rearing meat to keep it available in some form, generally, the cuts that the wealthy didn't favour, converted into sausages and (not yet in the game, but very much hoped for) smoked meats such as ham and bacon, salt beef, and other less perishable forms. Fish were also smoked, so I hope for a smokehouse to be added fairly soon, which could make kippers, bloaters, ham and bacon for less perishable sources of protein, with much lower spoilage. I do hope for dairy produce to appear in the not-too-distant future. Cheese in particular could preserve the benefits of animal-derived protein for the months of the year when it wasn't available directly from the source, being needed for the young calves or kids. Cheeses were also smoked for preservation in this period.
I cannot wait to play this game!! So excited. Just waiting for my pc to get fixed up. Game is already downloaded just need to play it whenever i get the pc back
I completely gave up on meat. On a crown node with all the upgrades it wasn't with it once your population gets over about 30 families. Upgrading is a waste of limited points. This has been my experience with it, so I don't upgrade anymore and rely on veg and apple. This is good, about time.
im running hunting villages where theres hunt crown nodes, and they produce enough to feed themselves and the main cities but the alternates to hunt is great
I rely heavily on meat and often take the upgrades. Unless you want a very large town, If you have a royal meat and royal berries you really don't need anything else. It's a great way to gain influence (through church tax) early in the game.
nice update :) my friend a i was playing a few days ago and found a nice trick to bandidcamps earlie in the game you only need 2 small groops of 5 one to lure them away and another to take the camp and then you take tresurey from the camp and hire mercneries and kill the beandids works every time :)
I think these updates are for now just arivable in the beta. Not officially, so you don't get an update if you're not entered the beta code for beta access
@@cenkercanbulut3069 It barely works and has very basic sentences. It'd be best to wait until at least 2025 if you're planning on buying it as the game still lacks many features and is far from completed. Doesent do any harm to fund the dev and give feedback on the game if you do decide to get it though. Considering this is mainly a one man project it could take a very long time to be complete.
Its great that fishing has been added but i must say I'm very disappointed with the type of fishing choosen. Rod fishing is just about the least efficient method possible & people of the period depicted in the game would not have used it as a method for "farming" fish. Maybe a lot harder to implement but long-line, fish traps/weirs & net fishing would have been far more prevalent. All include mechanics tied to rivers & coastal waters though which is perhap the reason for what we have ended up with. What the current fishing is is okay but I hope that after release these systems can be improved upon.
Graphics have gotten noticeably worse since the move to UE5. Probably not the fault of the dev but still a bummer. Many textures look less sharp and the game is darker (the lighting is probably the main issue).
I just want to be able to fight as the manor lord in battles and customize him instead of using preset ones. Other than that this game seems done to me.
game still suck ! I rylly was expecting bannelord type of battles but game is more like farthest frontier . City building game with some raids .... Big disappointment ! F paying for early access games !
Interesting, I feel like if you spent two minutes researching this game you would have properly set expectations. There are literally thousands of hours of gameplay and hundreds of articles. This might be a localized issue with data processing
@@jangas2345 you might be happy to pay for unfinished game but i dont ! Before they add all this futures promised by dev 80% of players not gonna play this game anymore
The food is so nerfed in this beta that it's difficult to keep the village fed at all. Even replacing all goat pens with pig pens still doesn't get enough food, and that's with deer, some farmland, chickens, veg, etc.
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when does this update get out? been a lot of talk bit no one knows a date
Castle building should be a high priority addition for this game. Developing your fortress along with your town would make this game 2x as fun.
Its on the to-do-list
Top priority has to be larger armies.
@@RoriLogan no because the developer said there will be necer the bug armies like total war.Castles should definitly the top priority.
And by the way its easy in the actual game to make a army with 1000 man plus ...
@@RoriLogan no they will focus more on the city building with more small skermishes no large battles
Medieval Europe not having pigs was the most unrealistic part of Manor Lords
No more!
G'day Raptor,
A note on Veggie patches, Apples and yields: if the families who live in these plots are busy, large parts of the harvest are lost, especially for apples as they can only be harvested in September. So what I do to maximise the value is to make sure that these plots always have the extra living space and ensure that at least one of the families is unassigned. This takes a bit of micro and assumes you have the population to spare, but the value per family is stunning in terms of food output. For the apple plots, those families can be re assigned to other tasks after harvest season, just don't forget to free them up come end of next August. While this may seem like a loss of work force, they have a job, they are providing bulk food, and this is worth more than an extra family for hunting, woodcutting, trading etc in my opinion. 1 morgen is totally doable for veggies and apples can be bigger, so I'm not sure on the limits.
This is obviously just my observations and I'm hardly thorough, so ill admit there will be things that I've not considered. However, this has been really effective for my towns so far (not mega cities, mostly between 500-1000 pop). I've needed far fewer apple and veggie plots thanks to the increased yields, meaning more pigs, goats and eggs for passive yields. At 20 pig plots I'm getting 200ish sausages per year costing me a little in salt but nothing my exports can't easily cover. While its not much, it adds up and keeps variety without spending any development points.
Not sure there but mechanically that over the default can be exploited IME with high yield zone. So if the default was 10 units say you could increase that to get more benefit on those zones.
At least I think that what I observed.
So a few things:
1. Spoilage has changed and anything in market stalls is going to spoil exponentially faster than if it is in the granary. Recommend minimizing market stalls, as the remaining granary workers will distribute goods to houses.
2. Goats and pigs do not scale with burgage plot size. And the reason they don’t “consume” food to breed is essentially because they are factored into the household(s) they are attached to for food consumption. Only pastured animals can reproduce beyond the per family limit of 2, and right now only sheep and lambs can be pastured.
3. A good way to balance foods and prevent starvation is to diversify beyond the minimum 3-4 types for level 2/3 burgages. For example, you can have two staples (veggies and apples, for example) that are plentiful and easy to mass accumulate, and then diversify 2-3 additional types like meat, eggs, fish, or honey that don’t need to be mass produced to keep everyone happy.
I'm waiting for enemy building a city on the map, diplomacy, laws, cavalry, more maps, castles and walls. But pigs are nice as well.
Wish he'd fix the baron.
Still has the tendency to snowball early on and have half the map by the time you get 5 houses up and steamroll you from there.
People say rush camps early, but I fail to see how sending 10 unarmed guys to their death is gonna help anything.
For me what's missing at this point is bigger battles, because once you reach population of around 300 people, whole battle system loses its point. AI is never that strong to stand against you and that's your army from only 1 region. And challenging mode is also a bit unrealistic, having only 5 families who demand tavern with ale and you never reach that 50% to add up population dunno why is it there?
Vegetables and apples. Meat is never enough for a large populous town.
The dev needs to change how food works massively. The problem with meat is that it counts as a unit just as apples or eggs do.
If a family consumes one meat they should get a lot more nutrition than from eating an apple, thus slowing down food consumption.
And this is historically accurate, which I know is something they prefer to err toward - only wanting to simplify for gameplay mechanics when necessary or onerous.
Meat was a privilege for nobility in medieval Europe I think all the way into the the last 100-200 years when industrial agriculture came around.
@@nickmhc No it wasn't, that's a common misconception. Every Village was butchering pig/cattle every year to sustain them with animal fats, bacon and meat. Most of the meat was salt cured, dried and/or smoked to last them all year round. (In rural southern germany we still salt cure meat and hang it in the chimney to smoke and preserve, like we did for hundreds of years)
@@WoofyMcDoodle
It's not "one apple" or "one egg". It's a months supply of that source, several kilograms. One single hen usually lays 3-4 eggs a week. And a large garden (you can build quite massive ones in the game) produces A LOT of vegetables. This can easily compare with the meat of one animal.
Nice!! Winter is coming. So will start this game again.
0:34 - "Ladies and Gentlemen, we finally have a sorceress walking through walls!"
that stronghold soundtrack tho
yep ❤🔥❤🔥❤🔥
Hope they add some cool music like this one in Manorlord.
Sometimes, the soundtracks we have right now make me feel miserable 😂
I was gunna make a comment about that, I love the vibes
nah, the update that will really make a difference is the map generator; i haven't played it in a while because I don't want to get bored/sick of the game
The Dev pace is slow but that's the nature with this model. I will say this, yes the template is well know for this genre but their execution utilizing modern tech and techniques has been great.
TBH I would have played a lot longer if the entire map was accessible as one parcel, maybe with different marked territories, but able to be expanded as an extension of or brought into the fold of your town. I know what the dev intended with the game, I'm just saying I get very bored the instant my town is maxed out and I have to start another one in another territory. I'd rather face some kind of rivalry with another ruler for infringing on a neighboring territory and have to fight off attempts to take it back, than simply fight some tiny battle and implant new villagers that can only trade resources back and forth. It's very redundant. Also the broader market is completely unbalanced and never feels relevant.
A phenomenal job by the dev. Kudos.
damn that stronghold theme takes me back when i was young
Now that is a great RTS.
I used to host LAN parties in Switzerland for 150 people back in the day. I had a blast playing Stronghold with people next to me or in the same room. ( ＾▽＾)
Game is great, but needs another year or so to be at a place where it's worth revisitting.
I love that we get either berries OR fish, and salt OR iron! Gives more value for trading between regions! Cool addition.
I would love for the horses to be converted to cavalry. It would make unit types way more relevant and make the enemy AI feel more threatening if you're going to spam crossbows
At 6:40 the town reminds me of KCD Rattay!
im so stoked for the bigger updates like either castles or forts and other units etc. i already bought the game just for support to play later.
Same. I played a bit when it first released in alpha. Absolutely gorgeous, music is spot on, and setting is unlike anything I've seen. But I stopped playing because I don't want to burn out on it, so I'm waiting until the game gets updated more before trying it out again. I did buy to support the dev as I think it's absolutely amazing game, idea, and the fact only 1 man made it is incredible. Makes you wonder why AAA studios don't release MUCH better games than the crap they put out.
@@studogg343 i play alot of games like these anyways ie (rimworld, going medieval, etc) this game looks amazing but the features need work, for example there simply needs to be more units, buildings, animals, features for water like mills other shit dams etc. the base game looks insanely good just needs more content and features to match. just hoping and waiting.
Stronghold music so catchy!
Loving the Stronghold 2 music in the beginning. Didn't think I wouldn't notice, but I did.
My character in the morning: "Honey! Where's mah bacon?!"
13:44 I would love to see a mechanic to restructure burgage plots
So you can resize gardens later if you don’t need them anymore and want to build something new in the extension
Houses stay in place
It's just another food source.
Doesn't change the game very much IMO.
It can make things go a bit faster if you have salt.
1 animal should be more than 1 meat imo. It only makes sense. Should be like 2-4 meat depending on skinning
Agreed.
1 unit of meat feeds a whole plot for a month lol
@@steiner4864 ya still
The fishing is so much better now.
A vinyard to make wine would be fantastic
Great game I've added some mods to it to make little more fun.but can't wait to they add alot more to it!
Am I tripping but is that stronghold theme/music? All I can hear is YOU are the greatest LORD
So cool, how the game goes ahead step by step. One day I hope we will get goose too. And the possibility to set your skill tree back. And to build a fish pond (even for the ones who didnt want to restart now).
Stronghold dub is good
The accuracy of meat & fish being hard to get is realistic, as most peasants of the period did get most of their protein from plant sources - most meat was for the wealthy! Beans and pulses made up a very high percentage of protein for the ordinary folk in those days. So complaining about the realism of the modelling sucks and is not in the spirit of Manor Lords. Yes, you need a lot of people rearing meat to keep it available in some form, generally, the cuts that the wealthy didn't favour, converted into sausages and (not yet in the game, but very much hoped for) smoked meats such as ham and bacon, salt beef, and other less perishable forms. Fish were also smoked, so I hope for a smokehouse to be added fairly soon, which could make kippers, bloaters, ham and bacon for less perishable sources of protein, with much lower spoilage.
I do hope for dairy produce to appear in the not-too-distant future. Cheese in particular could preserve the benefits of animal-derived protein for the months of the year when it wasn't available directly from the source, being needed for the young calves or kids. Cheeses were also smoked for preservation in this period.
bacon is never an insignificant addition to a game
Yes. Must have bacon at all times.
Where they want to update the Burgage plot tu level 100?
So we can see more taller building like an actual cties during medieval age
Love you Raptor, so consistent and ALWAYS on point! ✌️ big dawg!
I cannot wait to play this game!! So excited. Just waiting for my pc to get fixed up. Game is already downloaded just need to play it whenever i get the pc back
I completely gave up on meat. On a crown node with all the upgrades it wasn't with it once your population gets over about 30 families. Upgrading is a waste of limited points. This has been my experience with it, so I don't upgrade anymore and rely on veg and apple. This is good, about time.
im running hunting villages where theres hunt crown nodes, and they produce enough to feed themselves and the main cities
but the alternates to hunt is great
I rely heavily on meat and often take the upgrades. Unless you want a very large town, If you have a royal meat and royal berries you really don't need anything else. It's a great way to gain influence (through church tax) early in the game.
Where is cheese??? Kindly asking :)
Manor Lord reporting for duty.
I love this game.
Is the Update official now ??
Anyone know how to fix the PC crashing at start up? The last patch was fine but this one is not letting the game even load
C:\Users\Username\AppData\Local\ManorLords\Saved\Config\Windows
Open UserSettings with notepad and change "r.volumetriccloud=x" to 1
@@krzysztofkoniec9548 That Worked! Holy Shit. Thank you.
I’m off the next 2 days. This is gunna be fun!
Can you visit houses of people or your own house in the game?
The people are leaving the Castle me Lord! Ah what now!
Bacon and ham, yummy.
Love it
Manor Lords Divine Blessing review ???
nice update :) my friend a i was playing a few days ago and found a nice trick to bandidcamps earlie in the game you only need 2 small groops of 5 one to lure them away and another to take the camp and then you take tresurey from the camp and hire mercneries and kill the beandids works every time :)
I had just three bandit camps in the first hours. But if you have a well equiped guard in your town they can handly the bandits alone.
I would almost buy an Xbox just to play this! Need this ps5
WE NEED CHICKENS!! :D
Bought on GoG, so just waiting here 😬
Need better ai enemy or large invasion
That is REEEEEEELy Pigsignificant
Dare I say pignificant m'lord!
Is this a official update or still in beta, I don’t see any updates for my Manor Lord game on steam, I know, I guess I can use the secret code
These updates, are they released globally?
Beta branch
I think these updates are for now just arivable in the beta. Not officially, so you don't get an update if you're not entered the beta code for beta access
@@Nanonic001 so no then, it's not release for the version on game pass?
AFAIK you can't switch to beta branches of a game there like you can on steam
@@alertaalerta3675 I see. I thought I missed. I'm just not included. Long waiting time then.
Common of mast! Pannage!
Is there diplomacy in the game ?
That is planned, there are responses you can give to the enemy, but it's not fully deployed yet.
@@cenkercanbulut3069 It barely works and has very basic sentences. It'd be best to wait until at least 2025 if you're planning on buying it as the game still lacks many features and is far from completed. Doesent do any harm to fund the dev and give feedback on the game if you do decide to get it though.
Considering this is mainly a one man project it could take a very long time to be complete.
Hw it work to have the meat from the pigs is it something automatic
Its great that fishing has been added but i must say I'm very disappointed with the type of fishing choosen. Rod fishing is just about the least efficient method possible & people of the period depicted in the game would not have used it as a method for "farming" fish.
Maybe a lot harder to implement but long-line, fish traps/weirs & net fishing would have been far more prevalent. All include mechanics tied to rivers & coastal waters though which is perhap the reason for what we have ended up with.
What the current fishing is is okay but I hope that after release these systems can be improved upon.
Graphics have gotten noticeably worse since the move to UE5. Probably not the fault of the dev but still a bummer. Many textures look less sharp and the game is darker (the lighting is probably the main issue).
Maybe it's that shit PC you're on.. ;)
not sure but i feel like the game visuals are worse after unreal engine 5?
No updates for GOG, no Beta for GOG :(
@WolfKenneth did u try adding the game to the steam library?
@@osho5996 adding game bpught on Gog to steam?
It makes almost no difference at all. As they only give 2 Meat every 150 day!😂😂😂😂 that is just so stupid OMG.
Animals
Manor lords ❤
I just want to be able to fight as the manor lord in battles and customize him instead of using preset ones. Other than that this game seems done to me.
Stronghold music 22 years old and way better than manor lords boring music . Can i upload shold music on manor lords ?
Well that’s just like, your opinion, man
I love this sound track. I miss good old stronghold games 😥
@@simplelife5268 i see what you did there and I like your style dude
It’s 2024 you can listen to whatever you want when playing a game. It’s called using the internet.
@@Marty13B i mean wouldnt it be cooler if you like have different music options to choose and listen to within the game .
game still suck ! I rylly was expecting bannelord type of battles but game is more like farthest frontier .
City building game with some raids ....
Big disappointment !
F paying for early access games !
That's what I was expecting, I really would love a game like that but as a roman governor.
huh, strange, I wasn't expecting that.
Interesting, I feel like if you spent two minutes researching this game you would have properly set expectations. There are literally thousands of hours of gameplay and hundreds of articles.
This might be a localized issue with data processing
@@jangas2345 you might be happy to pay for unfinished game but i dont ! Before they add all this futures promised by dev 80% of players not gonna play this game anymore
If you expected that then you only have yourself to blame.
The food is so nerfed in this beta that it's difficult to keep the village fed at all. Even replacing all goat pens with pig pens still doesn't get enough food, and that's with deer, some farmland, chickens, veg, etc.
You just have to keep population lower.
No more than 250 to 300.
Whatever.
Game is still boring AF without an AI building towns against you.
@@penknight8532 my pop is way lower than that. Normally I can get up to 200-300 pop pretty easily, but these recent betas have completely nerfed food.
boom propper christoian game lol. i gotta admit the english chatters prety cool. some kinda kit would be nice to make scenarios