Okaaaaay,..... after reviewing this interview, I see that I didn't mention (or, if I did, it was edited for time) my thoughts regarding why there are two different-looking "Ambassador" Designs - so here we go: The 'actual' look for the Ambassador Class Enterprise-C - is the one I originally Designed - the one that was correctly placed in the Conference Lounge ship sculpture group. BUT - When the Enterprise-D entered that temporal vortex, timelines shifted, producing a different Ambassador Design - which has been incorrectly excepted as the canon version of that ship. This explanation is verified by the fact that, when the vortex was entered, Picard's Enterprise uniforms were changed, his bridge design was changed, and the design for the Enterprise-C was also changed,... and all these changes were accepted by those within that alternate timeline as being normal (or canon, to them). So, you see,... the screen-version of the Enterprise-C is no more valid in today's timeline, than the screen-version of Picard's bridge, while it was also in that alternate timeline. In other words - the Enterprise-D bridge and the Enterprise-C exterior are both products of an alternate timeline - unrecognized, as such, while existing in that timeline. If, however, the Enterprise-D encountered any other Ambassador Class Starship (not being able to encounter the "C", due to it's destruction) in our normal unaltered time - it would look like it is supposed to,... like it does in the wall sculpture- I hope that helps, Andrew-
(if I do understand what you say or if I missed the point I'm sorry, I can barely see at the moment) That kinda helps...but in my honest opinion how would you explain Rick Sternbach's Ambassador class ships existing after The Next Generation's Yesterday's Enterprise episode? example; Deep Space Nine episode 1/pilot Emissary, battle at Wolf 359. In those beginning scenes we see R.S's Ambassador ships fighting the Borg cube, and possibly somewhere later during Deep Space Nine's run time(seasons).
+Andrew Probert What IF, your version of the Ambassador class is actually a refit version? A rather extensive and expensive version which is seldom seen (like the Lakota and Enterprise B version of the Excelsior). Maybe the interior designer of the Enterprise D was neither a Starfleet officer nor historian and did a rather sloppy image search when he did the decorations. "Hmmmm, I like this one better, let's do this version" :p
+Andrew Probert I like this explanation and I think it's fully supported by the Abrams films, and the mirror universe episode of DS9 where the Negh'Var is a few times larger than in the prime universe (which itself may provide some justification for J.J.'s supersized Constitution class). The ships are simply a little (or a lot) different between timelines. As for why the Sternbach Ambassador showed up in DS9 at Wolf 359, we should chalk it up to a limitation in the effects technology of the time. For example, if Voyager had been made with physical models, they would have used the O'berth model for the Equinox, instead of creating the Nova class. So we could work our way back and conclude many of the ships shown in TNG and DS9 weren't actually the types shown. The Sternbach Ambassador should be "read" as the Probert Ambassador, and all the Miranda and Excelsior class ships we saw in DS9's fleet battles should be read as newer types as well I gather from this interview that you don't see Federation starships as "just spaceframes" that are infinitely upgradeable with new electronics, an opinion I share. I compare it to the evolution of the AT computer case to the ATX case. Eventually the electronics change too much to fit into the same space as the old electronics - they need more power, more cooling etc. You're much better off designing a new chassis that gives the electronics what they need than you are trying to make the old chassis work. So I really don't believe the Federation was fighting the Dominion with TOS-movie era ships like the Miranda class. The effects department was using the models they had to work with and would have done better if they could have. It'd be great if Paramount would invest in updating the effects shots of TNG and DS9 and fix these problems. Or let the fans do it - I'm sure that we could.
they still could: the ship that was revealed at the Narendra battle in Yesterdays Enterprise was in AN ALTERNATE TIMELINE. Uniforms were not the same. Lives totally altered. Tasha undead. No reason to believe the real historical C in the prime timeline doesnt look exactly like the Probert design :)
Okay, everybody,... I have the ultimate explanation for this confusion between Rick's "C" and mine. Rick's Enterprise-C is NOT an Ambassador Class ship. Now, maybe, somewhere, it's 'printed' that it is - but, for all those who embrace the interpretation of "canon" as being what is seen (or heard) on screen... the Enterprise-C, as seen in the episode: "Yesterday's Enterprise" - was never referred to an an Ambassador Class vessel. I, therefore, submit that the time-rift Enterprise-C is another class of ship. That explains why that same class is seen in a subsequent episode. The Enterprise-C, in our existing timeline, however, IS the Ambassador Class ship (as displayed on the Lounge wall) but, being a very large Universe,... is never encountered in any of the episodes of Next Generation. Yes, obviously, since my Enterprise-C is an Ambassador Class ship,... Everyone assumed any ship with the designation of Enterprise-C would automatically be an Ambassador Class vessel. But the time-rift altered that-
+Andrew Probert - Problem is, Sternbach's Ambassador/Enterprise-C is clearly visible on the Enterprise-E's lounge wall in First Contact. We get a good look at it when Picard smashes the display glass.
+JR XTIN I never consider the movies 100% canon considering it's different companies that handle the movies vs the tv series . Tv series first and foremost (considering that is where it started), movies second but expect mistakes due to different production studios
Calum Knight This is getting too convoluted for me. I'm a ship geek and I prefer Probert's version of the Ambassador, but as for what's canon I think it's pretty clear Paramount resolved the disparity by retconning out the Probert Ambassador. It isn't sane to come up with an overly-involved theory for why the Sternbach Ambassador isn't the Ambassador class, when it's appeared as the Ambassador class in every production appearance of the class, except for one wall decoration on the D. Even if I ran Paramount and I wanted to make a TV series based on the Enterprise C, I wouldn't use the Probert Ambassador at this point (but I would if Sternbach's Ambassador had never appeared). I'd go to Sternbach and say, o.k., the budget and time aren't a big issue, fix the problems with your version and make it right. Let's not make this continuity problem any worse than it already is.
My jaw is on the floor. The D has always been my favorite looking ship in star trek. And I think this version of the Ambassador class is even more gorgeous. Would love to see a show with one of these. Solar system of the week - warp to a new location - saucer separate - the A story could be on the star drive and the B story on the saucer (or vice versa).
Always liked Andy's concept of the C over the one we see in "Yesterday's Enterprise". HIs seems to be more of a fluent progression. Great episodes and animations! Thanks Mr.Probert and Trekyards for another great episode.
I very much agree with you, though I'd also combine L-shaped nacelle pylons of Sternbach's design(also on the Excelsior & Galaxy classes) to the rest of the Probert version so the progression is even more fluent.
To me, Andy's design is and always will be the Ambassador class. Its absolutely gorgeous and it really needs the recognition that it deserves. Well done Andy on making a truly beautiful ship.
In my option,this is such a nice natural progression from the B to D it's just a better fit in the design lineage.The Enterprise C looks a lot closer to TOS than TNG the design of the C almost looks like it predates the B.
I also wish this were the D!!! THis is my favorite ship Thank you Mr Probert and to Tobias RIchter as well!! Just LOVE this ship!! I so wish I could have seen the bridge escape pod deployed. What a great touch!!
This is a nice ship. That being said, the C that we did get in Yesterday's Enterprise is still one of my top three favorite ships. The other two being the Daedalus class and the Nova class.
🖖😎👍Very totally wonderfully cool and very nicely greatly well done and informatively explained and executed in every detail way shape and format provided on the "Ambassador Class / Prototype!"; A job very fabulously nicely well done indeed Sir's!👌.
As I would like the new Star Trek series to be set post-STVI/ pre-TNG I would like this ship to be used as the hero ship. It can be either the USS Probert, Probert class or the captain can be named Probert. Another awesome piece of design from Andrew and another awesome 3d model from Tobias.
+peccatumDei Well, there was a Fan project called "Star Trek Futures" that would have featured the Enterprise C in Andys design. It was very promising, but sadly closed down last autumn. facebook.com/startrekfutures/?fref=ts
I was just going to write here as a comment, when Andrew just said it, that this Ambassador Class ship should have been the Enterprise 1701-D. Awesome ship, and a great video for this weekend! Many greetings from Germany! Danke!!!
This design has a beautiful but aggressive look to it. A great look for a starship worthy of the name Enterprise. So she was to separate the saucer from the star drive. Thinking just how bada** it would be to see this ship get more play. Anyway fellas, Great video! Thanks for taking the time to be so nerdy! 🤣🤣🤣 You guys are Awesome!!!
A very elegant and well thought out design. I sympathise with the modelers and PM's for a series that have to design and make a 'ship of the week' for a series as time pressures mean short cuts get made.. This design shows that with thought as to function and additional time to think and refine what a fantastic design can emerge.
Wow, what incredible design! This is the true ambassador class; and the one true NCC 1701C. Mr Probert thank you so much for your contribution to design. Your work has inspired me since I was a kid. The refit Enterprise is one of my favorite ship's of all time. I was pleasantly surprised to find out recently that my favourite convoy ships from Battlestar Galactica 1978 was was actually designed by yourself...Boy I'm a such geek. Anyway, I've always been disappointed with the 1701C that appeared in Yesterday's Enterprise; and it's great to have a chance to see the 'original' design.
Truth or Myth, a StarTrek Fan Website Show does amazing background or beta canon on starships designs we're familar with. The show did a wonderful episode that brought this particular design to life. It is worth watching!
This ship is outstanding and deserves to be the hero ship of its own series. Andrew Probert's design with Tobias Richter's 3D modeling just bring it to life and its aesthetics fit so well into the TNG era.
It is a GORGEOUS ship. FAR better than the crappy cannon one. The more I watch the more pissed I get that Sternbach changed it cuz it "took too long" to build a model. Cheap cop-out. Just a beautiful ship!
Love the Ambassador. This adds to the greatness of the class. Great job Andrew on the design and Great job to Tobias for helping to bring it to life. Hope to see more on this ship.
Way late to this video but thanks for the heads up. It's nice to see such a beautiful ship design get more recognition. I like the way the game in canon story has it's design overseen by Captain Andrew Probert.
This is a great design, one of the best. I remember when I first saw it years ago, back when it was first modeled, I didn't have words for how good this ship looked in 3D. It's one of those few designs I actually spend a long time staring at like some sort of art snob in a museum.
It's amusing that other people thought the same as me about the C (and the 84 year old Excelsior class ship appearing alongside the Enterprise D in the first season). The C on that episode did look like a rush job, this version looks much nicer... almost too nice ;)
Andrew - I hope that the comments here give you a great feeling about how much we fans really like your design. I personally really like the sweep of the nacelle pylons - very graceful. Thanks for your design and Michael's model.
The design--and the model--are magnificent in so many ways, I don't know where to start. Definitely should have been the C. Thanks for doing this show, guys, I am SO glad to know about this!!
I've watched this episode of TrekYards so many times. Still such a beautiful ship and absolutely amazing render. Andrew Probert, I absolutely love your dedication to creating this ship with a great amount of logical design choices.
Sorry poor choice of words I mean to say that although I prefer the one in the video, I do also like the one they went with as well although not as much, if that helps clarify :)
Basically I like The Andrew Probert Ambassador much better and it fits in the time period and timeline better, by original I meant the one that they had instead, although I can see why thats confusing as this one is more accurately the original one
I love the beautiful look of Andrew Probert's version of the 1701-C. I wish they would make a model kit for this version of the C. Thank you Andrew and Tobias.
What a beautiful design fitting perfectly in the evolution! Andrew's TMP "refit" of Jefferies' original is to this day, and always has been, my favourite Enterprise, and it's great to hear from him about the amazing detail, knowledge and thought he puts into his work. Really wish they had used this version as the 1701-C. Such work is very much appreciated, so thanks to Tobias as well for his talented rendition of it.
I'm always so impressed by Probert. Not just his sheer skill but his gracious attitude keeps me coming back to watch him, even though I'm not a Star Trek super fan.
AMAZING DESIGN! My RP group in STO, whose ship is actually docked at ESD according to the listing in Admiral Quinns office, is this particular design. I came here to become better informed on the ship that we use in our stories and am not disappointed at all. As stated above, The U.S.S. Boston is officially docked at ESD. The docked ships list is on the display in Admiral Quinn's office to the right.
Just watching this again. Such a gorgeous ship! Would love to see Yesterday's Enterprise recreated with this model...and a recreation of the battle of Narada III.
I'm not a fan of this ship's top view, but she does have some absolutely beautiful angles and looks great in motion. Especially love the neck and deflector and the flowing shape of the engine pylons as seen from the front. My nitpick, as it is, is that she's maybe too direct an in-between of the B and D in terms of proportions, where the other ships in the Enterprise line always bring entirely new shapes and design elements. Always such a pleasure to hear Mr. Probert talk about his work, either way. The amount and quality of thought he puts into designs is inspiring.
THIS is my all-time favorite design Star Trek ship. Being a writer I would love to write a series (books or TV) based on a dreadnought (3rd nacelle) version of this design.
graceful design :) I love the stepping from the motion picture enterprise to the Next generation enterprise the detail's from the old box style navigation array for example to the organics of the new body frame.
Wow, that ship looks amazing! Much better looking than the C we got in TNG. Would love to see a series, but more in the line of TNG, DS9 and Voyager, which would have this version of the Enterprise venturing through space. As I was disappointed with Discovery and gave up all hope for that it. Damn you Abrams for ruining my Star Trekking. x'(
You know I wasn't sure about this design, because I love the Ambassador- but by the end of the episode, I'm sold. You know we live in amazing Trek times when we can have essentially 'fan' (non-canon) designs but designed by The People. It's got me thinking that I've love to see a Galaxy modernization. I don't mean re-design, but looking at the care and attention spent on the upper saucer section of this ship- which is one of the best designed of all Trek I'd like to see some of this applied to the Galaxy in an ultra-detailed version
Andrew, I have to say this is one of my favorite ships in Star Trek ever. It's such a thoughtfully laid out vessel, and Tobias Richter did such an amazing job of fleshing it out in 3D. Absolutely gorgeous vessel, and it is a crime that we never got to see your Ambassador design flying alongside the Enterprise D. If I recall, there is a fan movie being made featuring your design of the Ambassador-class, so I'll hold off from also stating it being a crime that we'll never see this ship as a feature vessel. I'll end this with a fanboy request. :) With the E and the F Enterprises established in canon, would you consider designing a G or H?
+Mark Castillo Actually, I'm working on my version of an Enterprise-G as you can see here: facebook.com/529652223827292/photos/a.529658380493343.1073741827.529652223827292/829850673807444/?type=3&theater
I would love this as the canon Ambassador class! The detail that Mr. Probert infused into this concept and its execution by Mr. Richter are simply fantastic. And that warp capable, detachable dorsal lifeboat is a great idea! It would be cool to see it in action.
Just started watching Trekyards. Did not know there was a Andrew Probert’s version of the Ambassador class. It’s the most beautiful ship design since the refit Enterprise!
The Enterprise D has always been my favourite ship in all of Star Trek history so far but having just seen the Ambassador Class here for the first time, it is indeed just as beautiful as the D and its natural predecessor. I would have loved to have seen it in action. Well done Andrew!
I do like this Ambassador class. It reminds me of the graceful stateliness of both the galaxy and the Excelsior. While I do like the one we got, I do think this version fits better
Another brilliant and informative episode & what a marvelous design for a Starship. I feel it fits in a lot better with a federation timeline then the one they actually did used & it was marvelous seeing it in the Star Trek ships of the line calendar. I just wish Eaglemoss would do a model of it for our own collections so we could have both Enterprise cease.
I like the design. I also like the design that was used.I think i would have preferred this to the D as others have said. What i love is the amount of thought Andrew Probert puts into designing a given ship. What everything is and what goes where and of course why.
Excellent design indeed, much better than the Enterprise-C style. Great interview Trekyards! I hope Eaglemoss will consider making a model of Mr. Probert's Ambassador-class design.
Cryptic did a wonderful job on modelling the Guardian class on the Ambassador class concept, apart from a few minor details it looks virtually the same
+Blood Raven That was my first impression when seeing this rendering was its similarity to the STO Guardian class, which should be the standard all-purpose heavy cruiser, just as the Constitution and Excelsior were in their day.
yea! wierd how they didnt link them together as a refit. at least then we'd have more customization options and more ambassadors flying around at endgame.
Okaaaaay,..... after reviewing this interview, I see that I didn't mention (or, if I did, it was edited for time) my thoughts regarding why there are two different-looking "Ambassador" Designs - so here we go:
The 'actual' look for the Ambassador Class Enterprise-C - is the one I originally Designed - the one that was correctly placed in the Conference Lounge ship sculpture group.
BUT - When the Enterprise-D entered that temporal vortex, timelines shifted, producing a different Ambassador Design - which has been incorrectly excepted as the canon version of that ship.
This explanation is verified by the fact that, when the vortex was entered, Picard's Enterprise uniforms were changed, his bridge design was changed, and the design for the Enterprise-C was also changed,... and all these changes were accepted by those within that alternate timeline as being normal (or canon, to them). So, you see,... the screen-version of the Enterprise-C is no more valid in today's timeline, than the screen-version of Picard's bridge, while it was also in that alternate timeline. In other words - the Enterprise-D bridge and the Enterprise-C exterior are both products of an alternate timeline - unrecognized, as such, while existing in that timeline.
If, however, the Enterprise-D encountered any other Ambassador Class Starship (not being able to encounter the "C", due to it's destruction) in our normal unaltered time - it would look like it is supposed to,... like it does in the wall sculpture-
I hope that helps,
Andrew-
(if I do understand what you say or if I missed the point I'm sorry, I can barely see at the moment)
That kinda helps...but in my honest opinion how would you explain Rick Sternbach's Ambassador class ships existing after The Next Generation's Yesterday's Enterprise episode?
example; Deep Space Nine episode 1/pilot Emissary, battle at Wolf 359. In those beginning scenes we see R.S's Ambassador ships fighting the Borg cube, and possibly somewhere later during Deep Space Nine's run time(seasons).
+Captain Lokiawa Well,.... that one, I can't explain.
Oh...darn. 😢
+Andrew Probert What IF, your version of the Ambassador class is actually a refit version? A rather extensive and expensive version which is seldom seen (like the Lakota and Enterprise B version of the Excelsior). Maybe the interior designer of the Enterprise D was neither a Starfleet officer nor historian and did a rather sloppy image search when he did the decorations. "Hmmmm, I like this one better, let's do this version" :p
+Andrew Probert I like this explanation and I think it's fully supported by the Abrams films, and the mirror universe episode of DS9 where the Negh'Var is a few times larger than in the prime universe (which itself may provide some justification for J.J.'s supersized Constitution class).
The ships are simply a little (or a lot) different between timelines.
As for why the Sternbach Ambassador showed up in DS9 at Wolf 359, we should chalk it up to a limitation in the effects technology of the time. For example, if Voyager had been made with physical models, they would have used the O'berth model for the Equinox, instead of creating the Nova class. So we could work our way back and conclude many of the ships shown in TNG and DS9 weren't actually the types shown. The Sternbach Ambassador should be "read" as the Probert Ambassador, and all the Miranda and Excelsior class ships we saw in DS9's fleet battles should be read as newer types as well
I gather from this interview that you don't see Federation starships as "just spaceframes" that are infinitely upgradeable with new electronics, an opinion I share. I compare it to the evolution of the AT computer case to the ATX case. Eventually the electronics change too much to fit into the same space as the old electronics - they need more power, more cooling etc. You're much better off designing a new chassis that gives the electronics what they need than you are trying to make the old chassis work. So I really don't believe the Federation was fighting the Dominion with TOS-movie era ships like the Miranda class. The effects department was using the models they had to work with and would have done better if they could have.
It'd be great if Paramount would invest in updating the effects shots of TNG and DS9 and fix these problems. Or let the fans do it - I'm sure that we could.
You know what... this ship should be officialy put in cannon. It's too good to be waste.
It's not canon?
Bobby3OOO No. they decided to go with a Rick Sternbach design for the canon Ambassador-class instead. This design is so much better.
If Ricks ambassador enterprise-c was at nerindra 3 that ship would kick romulan butt.
they still could: the ship that was revealed at the Narendra battle in Yesterdays Enterprise was in AN ALTERNATE TIMELINE. Uniforms were not the same. Lives totally altered. Tasha undead.
No reason to believe the real historical C in the prime timeline doesnt look exactly like the Probert design :)
This ship is in star trek online, it's classified as a narendra class.
So the design wasn't put to waste.
The Probert Ambassador is gorgeous. I wish it would be retconned or included into the established canon of the shows.
They should dump STD altogether for a Prequel about Cpt. Garrett and the Enterprise C with that exact fit!
Ambassador refit potentially
@CommanderMouse72 I like the idea that it was a planned refit, but it was scrapped and turned into the Galaxy class
Okay, everybody,... I have the ultimate explanation for this confusion between Rick's "C" and mine.
Rick's Enterprise-C is NOT an Ambassador Class ship. Now, maybe, somewhere, it's 'printed' that it is - but, for all those who embrace the interpretation of "canon" as being what is seen (or heard) on screen... the Enterprise-C, as seen in the episode: "Yesterday's Enterprise" - was never referred to an an Ambassador Class vessel.
I, therefore, submit that the time-rift Enterprise-C is another class of ship. That explains why that same class is seen in a subsequent episode. The Enterprise-C, in our existing timeline, however, IS the Ambassador Class ship (as displayed on the Lounge wall) but, being a very large Universe,... is never encountered in any of the episodes of Next Generation.
Yes, obviously, since my Enterprise-C is an Ambassador Class ship,... Everyone assumed any ship with the designation of Enterprise-C would automatically be an Ambassador Class vessel.
But the time-rift altered that-
Interesting idea.
Okay, that clears the fog. Thanks Mr. Probert! 😜😊
+Andrew Probert - Problem is, Sternbach's Ambassador/Enterprise-C is clearly visible on the Enterprise-E's lounge wall in First Contact. We get a good look at it when Picard smashes the display glass.
+JR XTIN I never consider the movies 100% canon considering it's different companies that handle the movies vs the tv series . Tv series first and foremost (considering that is where it started), movies second but expect mistakes due to different production studios
Calum Knight This is getting too convoluted for me. I'm a ship geek and I prefer Probert's version of the Ambassador, but as for what's canon I think it's pretty clear Paramount resolved the disparity by retconning out the Probert Ambassador. It isn't sane to come up with an overly-involved theory for why the Sternbach Ambassador isn't the Ambassador class, when it's appeared as the Ambassador class in every production appearance of the class, except for one wall decoration on the D. Even if I ran Paramount and I wanted to make a TV series based on the Enterprise C, I wouldn't use the Probert Ambassador at this point (but I would if Sternbach's Ambassador had never appeared). I'd go to Sternbach and say, o.k., the budget and time aren't a big issue, fix the problems with your version and make it right. Let's not make this continuity problem any worse than it already is.
My jaw is on the floor. The D has always been my favorite looking ship in star trek. And I think this version of the Ambassador class is even more gorgeous. Would love to see a show with one of these. Solar system of the week - warp to a new location - saucer separate - the A story could be on the star drive and the B story on the saucer (or vice versa).
Always liked Andy's concept of the C over the one we see in "Yesterday's Enterprise". HIs seems to be more of a fluent progression. Great episodes and animations! Thanks Mr.Probert and Trekyards for another great episode.
I very much agree with you, though I'd also combine L-shaped nacelle pylons of Sternbach's design(also on the Excelsior & Galaxy classes) to the rest of the Probert version so the progression is even more fluent.
One word, Andrew: Graceful!
I loved the Andrew Probert Ambassador Enterprise. This is an amazing and beautiful ship. Thank you for everything you did for Star Trek ships, Sir!
To me, Andy's design is and always will be the Ambassador class. Its absolutely gorgeous and it really needs the recognition that it deserves. Well done Andy on making a truly beautiful ship.
I really LOVE this Ambassador Class! They should use it for future star trek tv series to come!
Star Trek: Ambassador wouldnt be that bad of a name, if you consider the role Cpt. Garrett played in regards to the Klingons.
They put it in star trek online
@@frateranpvbail-shm6912 Or perhaps Star Trek: Chronicles would be another apt name!
such a beautiful design :)
yeee boye
In my option,this is such a nice natural progression from the B to D it's just a better fit in the design lineage.The Enterprise C looks a lot closer to TOS than TNG the design of the C almost looks like it predates the B.
to give an update, star trek online has added this model as the tier 6 ambassador ship. and it is totally beautiful
I also wish this were the D!!! THis is my favorite ship Thank you Mr Probert and to Tobias RIchter as well!! Just LOVE this ship!! I so wish I could have seen the bridge escape pod deployed. What a great touch!!
love the ship Enterprise 1701-C , thanks good job
This is a nice ship. That being said, the C that we did get in Yesterday's Enterprise is still one of my top three favorite ships. The other two being the Daedalus class and the Nova class.
🖖😎👍Very totally wonderfully cool and very nicely greatly well done and informatively explained and executed in every detail way shape and format provided on the "Ambassador Class / Prototype!"; A job very fabulously nicely well done indeed Sir's!👌.
As I would like the new Star Trek series to be set post-STVI/ pre-TNG I would like this ship to be used as the hero ship. It can be either the USS Probert, Probert class or the captain can be named Probert.
Another awesome piece of design from Andrew and another awesome 3d model from Tobias.
+Mork_of_Ork2001 I like the idea of the name Probert Class. A lot.
If you're reading these comments Michael & Tobias - I do love this design best out of the 2 Enterprise C designs :) Thank you
+Nicholas Dickens Thank you!
+Nicholas Dickens: I agree completely. This is a fantastic design! Now, can we get someone to make a fan movie that features this ship?
+Nicholas Dickens Thank you!
+peccatumDei This needs to happen!
+peccatumDei Well, there was a Fan project called "Star Trek Futures" that would have featured the Enterprise C in Andys design. It was very promising, but sadly closed down last autumn. facebook.com/startrekfutures/?fref=ts
I was just going to write here as a comment, when Andrew just said it, that this Ambassador Class ship should have been the Enterprise 1701-D.
Awesome ship, and a great video for this weekend!
Many greetings from Germany!
Danke!!!
Great job, guys! I loved hearing Andrew's insights on his Ambassador design. It's far superior to the canon Enterprise C imo.
This is now my new favourite ship!! I love Mr Probert's work!
I very much appreciate the thought design of the Probert Ambassador class. Beautiful and functional. Would love to get a virtual tour of her interior!
This design has a beautiful but aggressive look to it. A great look for a starship worthy of the name Enterprise. So she was to separate the saucer from the star drive. Thinking just how bada** it would be to see this ship get more play.
Anyway fellas, Great video! Thanks for taking the time to be so nerdy! 🤣🤣🤣 You guys are Awesome!!!
A very elegant and well thought out design. I sympathise with the modelers and PM's for a series that have to design and make a 'ship of the week' for a series as time pressures mean short cuts get made.. This design shows that with thought as to function and additional time to think and refine what a fantastic design can emerge.
This is my favorite ship design yet. I love it!
The way the bridge would have broken off as a lifeboat reminds me of the NSEA Protector from Galaxy Quest. :D
Wow, what incredible design! This is the true ambassador class; and the one true NCC 1701C. Mr Probert thank you so much for your contribution to design. Your work has inspired me since I was a kid. The refit Enterprise is one of my favorite ship's of all time. I was pleasantly surprised to find out recently that my favourite convoy ships from Battlestar Galactica 1978 was was actually designed by yourself...Boy I'm a such geek. Anyway, I've always been disappointed with the 1701C that appeared in Yesterday's Enterprise; and it's great to have a chance to see the 'original' design.
Now we need a Eaglemoss model of it please Ben Robinson
+Andy Jones we do!
And now we do!! Ordered mine yesterday! 😁
Truth or Myth, a StarTrek Fan Website Show does amazing background or beta canon on starships designs we're familar with. The show did a wonderful episode that brought this particular design to life. It is worth watching!
This ship is outstanding and deserves to be the hero ship of its own series. Andrew Probert's design with Tobias Richter's 3D modeling just bring it to life and its aesthetics fit so well into the TNG era.
Charles Kim Thank you Eaglemoss for producing this model.
Thank you Eaglemoss for producing this model.
this is my new favourite ship! so glad to hear this interview. 😁
It is a GORGEOUS ship. FAR better than the crappy cannon one. The more I watch the more pissed I get that Sternbach changed it cuz it "took too long" to build a model. Cheap cop-out. Just a beautiful ship!
It's a gorgeous design by Mr. Probert and a fantastic render by Herr Richter!
Your design is awesome
I really love this, wish it could have had its day of glory on screen.
This one of the most beautiful designs in star trek. It could be designated as the ambassador refit, just like the constitution refit
Love the Ambassador. This adds to the greatness of the class. Great job Andrew on the design and Great job to Tobias for helping to bring it to life. Hope to see more on this ship.
And now she exists as the Narendra-class in Star Trek Online.
Way late to this video but thanks for the heads up. It's nice to see such a beautiful ship design get more recognition. I like the way the game in canon story has it's design overseen by Captain Andrew Probert.
This is such a beautiful ship... A perfect example of well thought-out design. I wish we could've seen this on-screen. Thanks for this episode.
This is a great design, one of the best. I remember when I first saw it years ago, back when it was first modeled, I didn't have words for how good this ship looked in 3D. It's one of those few designs I actually spend a long time staring at like some sort of art snob in a museum.
My fan reaction is that I love it. Very well thought out.
It's amusing that other people thought the same as me about the C (and the 84 year old Excelsior class ship appearing alongside the Enterprise D in the first season). The C on that episode did look like a rush job, this version looks much nicer... almost too nice ;)
Ambassador prototype is awesome. Nice interview, video, and animation guys!!!
This type of episode is what I look forward to. Thank you Andrew Probert for all you've done for Star Trek, and thank you Trek Yards!
Andrew - I hope that the comments here give you a great feeling about how much we fans really like your design. I personally really like the sweep of the nacelle pylons - very graceful. Thanks for your design and Michael's model.
The design--and the model--are magnificent in so many ways, I don't know where to start. Definitely should have been the C. Thanks for doing this show, guys, I am SO glad to know about this!!
Beautiful ship!! Such a great transition from the Excelsior class to the Galaxy class!
This just works so well!
I've watched this episode of TrekYards so many times. Still such a beautiful ship and absolutely amazing render. Andrew Probert, I absolutely love your dedication to creating this ship with a great amount of logical design choices.
This is one of my favorite Trek ships. I would have loved it if this was in 'Yesterday's Enterprise'.
Andrew, this is a beautiful ship. Everything works so well with its design! Fell in love with it immediately!
I really love this design, it suits the time period better in my opinion, but I do like the origional one alot as well
Hear, hear!
+Skyla Jade Forster (Sky) Which 'original' one?
Sorry poor choice of words I mean to say that although I prefer the one in the video, I do also like the one they went with as well although not as much, if that helps clarify :)
Basically I like The Andrew Probert Ambassador much better and it fits in the time period and timeline better, by original I meant the one that they had instead, although I can see why thats confusing as this one is more accurately the original one
+Skyla Jade Forster (Sky) See my post, for today - Feb-9 :-)
This was a wonderful episode, thank you so much. It was wonderful to hear the words of a Starship Designer explain his baby on screen.
Nice Ship, love the design.
I love the beautiful look of Andrew Probert's version of the 1701-C. I wish they would make a model kit for this version of the C. Thank you Andrew and Tobias.
Yes...Tobias is very patient with artist direction. I can attest to that much.
My god that's a beautiful ship :)
That ship is absolutely STUNNING! Andrew Probert is brilliant!
One of the most beautiful ships I've seen, Mr. Probert you have an eye for design that can come up with the most beautiful ships.
+Daniel McCool Thank you-
What a beautiful design fitting perfectly in the evolution! Andrew's TMP "refit" of Jefferies' original is to this day, and always has been, my favourite Enterprise, and it's great to hear from him about the amazing detail, knowledge and thought he puts into his work. Really wish they had used this version as the 1701-C. Such work is very much appreciated, so thanks to Tobias as well for his talented rendition of it.
I'm always so impressed by Probert. Not just his sheer skill but his gracious attitude keeps me coming back to watch him, even though I'm not a Star Trek super fan.
Fantastic breakdown of the ships we all love!! Thank you!!
AMAZING DESIGN! My RP group in STO, whose ship is actually docked at ESD according to the listing in Admiral Quinns office, is this particular design. I came here to become better informed on the ship that we use in our stories and am not disappointed at all. As stated above, The U.S.S. Boston is officially docked at ESD. The docked ships list is on the display in Admiral Quinn's office to the right.
Beautiful ship
This ship is beautiful!
I really like this version of the C.
Just watching this again. Such a gorgeous ship! Would love to see Yesterday's Enterprise recreated with this model...and a recreation of the battle of Narada III.
amazing design
I'm not a fan of this ship's top view, but she does have some absolutely beautiful angles and looks great in motion. Especially love the neck and deflector and the flowing shape of the engine pylons as seen from the front.
My nitpick, as it is, is that she's maybe too direct an in-between of the B and D in terms of proportions, where the other ships in the Enterprise line always bring entirely new shapes and design elements.
Always such a pleasure to hear Mr. Probert talk about his work, either way. The amount and quality of thought he puts into designs is inspiring.
Always loved your designs for TNG. Hearing your insight on the designs only makes it more appealing... Great episode!
Great episode. Great looking ship. Thanks to Tobias for bringing it to life! :)
THIS is my all-time favorite design Star Trek ship. Being a writer I would love to write a series (books or TV) based on a dreadnought (3rd nacelle) version of this design.
I love the Probert Ambassador, it's stunning. I wish there was a model of it.
graceful design :) I love the stepping from the motion picture enterprise to the Next generation enterprise the detail's from the old box style navigation array for example to the organics of the new body frame.
Maybe you could think of one as the Ambassador refit.
Wow, that ship looks amazing!
Much better looking than the C we got in TNG.
Would love to see a series, but more in the line of TNG, DS9 and Voyager, which would have this version of the Enterprise venturing through space. As I was disappointed with Discovery and gave up all hope for that it.
Damn you Abrams for ruining my Star Trekking. x'(
It is gorgeous. One of my absolute favourite ships in Trek.
Would love to see the interior of the starship as well as the lifeboat separating from the saucer section.
+Rene Rocha Me too-
You know I wasn't sure about this design, because I love the Ambassador- but by the end of the episode, I'm sold. You know we live in amazing Trek times when we can have essentially 'fan' (non-canon) designs but designed by The People. It's got me thinking that I've love to see a Galaxy modernization. I don't mean re-design, but looking at the care and attention spent on the upper saucer section of this ship- which is one of the best designed of all Trek I'd like to see some of this applied to the Galaxy in an ultra-detailed version
Andrew, I have to say this is one of my favorite ships in Star Trek ever. It's such a thoughtfully laid out vessel, and Tobias Richter did such an amazing job of fleshing it out in 3D. Absolutely gorgeous vessel, and it is a crime that we never got to see your Ambassador design flying alongside the Enterprise D. If I recall, there is a fan movie being made featuring your design of the Ambassador-class, so I'll hold off from also stating it being a crime that we'll never see this ship as a feature vessel.
I'll end this with a fanboy request. :) With the E and the F Enterprises established in canon, would you consider designing a G or H?
+Mark Castillo Actually, I'm working on my version of an Enterprise-G as you can see here:
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Oh wow! Fantastic. I didn't even realize you were on Facebook. Following. Gorgeous fluid shape so far!
I would love this as the canon Ambassador class! The detail that Mr. Probert infused into this concept and its execution by Mr. Richter are simply fantastic. And that warp capable, detachable dorsal lifeboat is a great idea! It would be cool to see it in action.
One of the best designs in the Trek-verse. Probert delivers the most coherent, thought-through designs.
Just started watching Trekyards. Did not know there was a Andrew Probert’s version of the Ambassador class. It’s the most beautiful ship design since the refit Enterprise!
The Enterprise D has always been my favourite ship in all of Star Trek history so far but having just seen the Ambassador Class here for the first time, it is indeed just as beautiful as the D and its natural predecessor. I would have loved to have seen it in action. Well done Andrew!
Absolutly good looking ship, very professional, very good job.
Oh my god, it's _so cool_ that you got Gerry Adams to guest star on Trekyards! Sinn Féin and prosper, lads! 💚🍀💚
I do like this Ambassador class. It reminds me of the graceful stateliness of both the galaxy and the Excelsior. While I do like the one we got, I do think this version fits better
Beautiful ship. Would make for a good backdrop of a new series (hint,hint).
Yes please!
At least, that beautiful design found it's way into Star Trek Online as the Narendra-Class.
I'm not concerned about what it's called. The C is a beautiful example of art and engineering. Thank you, Andrew Probert.
Actually The name Enterprise was the sixth ship that name during the filming this video
GREAT design! Very elegant!
Another brilliant and informative episode & what a marvelous design for a Starship.
I feel it fits in a lot better with a federation timeline then the one they actually did used & it was marvelous seeing it in the Star Trek ships of the line calendar.
I just wish Eaglemoss would do a model of it for our own collections so we could have both Enterprise cease.
I like the design. I also like the design that was used.I think i would have preferred this to the D as others have said.
What i love is the amount of thought Andrew Probert puts into designing a given ship. What everything is and what goes where and of course why.
Beautiful ship! Just received my model from Eaglemoss in the mail today. Love it!
Excellent design indeed, much better than the Enterprise-C style. Great interview Trekyards! I hope Eaglemoss will consider making a model of Mr. Probert's Ambassador-class design.
Absolutely beautiful ship Mr. Probert.
Cryptic did a wonderful job on modelling the Guardian class on the Ambassador class concept, apart from a few minor details it looks virtually the same
+Blood Raven That was my first impression when seeing this rendering was its similarity to the STO Guardian class, which should be the standard all-purpose heavy cruiser, just as the Constitution and Excelsior were in their day.
Travis Whitman exactly, a jack of all trades but master of none
yea! wierd how they didnt link them together as a refit. at least then we'd have more customization options and more ambassadors flying around at endgame.
+Mzrts12 Makes me want to get the Guardian and Fleet guardian at some point
USS Probert has a nice ring to it
I love this C.
Great design, sleek, capable, simply beautiful.