Fantastic overview and comparison. Very succinct and to the point and hits on the most important points. Was about to pull the trigger on Trigger 2 but looking into UVI now as a result of this video. Thanks!
@@GreenLightSound Exactly what I was thinking, also is there a way to use UVI for live use, I've been using it in the studio, but I was wanting to know before a friend bought it for that reason.
It could work, but as with all software latency would be the biggest issue. You can set a maximum latency in the settings, but the manual doesn't mention anything about live use.
Thank you. Will be purchasing this. Never used this kind of product before. But looking forward to having the option available. Thank you for making this easy to follow video. Appreciate it. Makes me feel excited to dive in!!!! Wishing you continued success. I also hit your subscribe button.
Thanks for a really thorough and detailed comparision! I think I will go for UVI and try that for some projects that I have, I liked some of the features you brought up in the video...
Great comparison. I have one question though. In Trigger2 you can load just one TCI in one slot and it has all the velocities built in, right? So if I wanted to trigger say two samples (snare and room sound of that snare) including 8 different velocities for each sample how would that work in UVI? Would I have to use two instances of the plugin? One for the sample and one for the room sound?
If I am using Audio Unit instruments like Addictive Drums 2 in Logic , can UVI access those ? Or do I have to download VST versions of them ? Thanks.They don't mention AU , only VST
i hope you dont mind the feedback: can you try to zoom in on individual sections in videos like these? i think it helps a lot highlight what part you're talking about, i had to pause the video a couple of times otherwise thank you so much for the comparison
Great video, thank you! Is it possible to run SSD5 inside of UVI- more specifically I'd love to be able to integrate the samples from Steven Slate's Expansion Packs
@@GreenLightSound Thank you, I noticed that when you shifted from loading WAV samples into UVI to running the plug-in/virtual instrument Superior Drummer 3 that a few of the important controls went missing: The AI Tuning option, polyphony (whatever that does), and the 3 levels of control, respectively: A, H, D. Are those options not available when using a virtual instrument and the samples contained within them?
Do you know if there’s a way to trigger different 808s say with the randomize button but it follows the midi notes? So if the midi hits c then a# then drum replacer will follow it. Also wanted to add that you have such great videos. I love the comparison videos showing the harmonic distortion from different but similar plugins. You should do that with all plugins tho. I love the in depth type of stuff
hye.. can ask something... i use UVI drum rplacer and SSDsampler for my STUDIO One ... i try use plugin insert on my UVI drum rplacer but the sample drum/sound from SSDsampler to UVI is not hear.. no signal i have... can help,... actually i want to try use DRUM rplacer to change my original SOund drum...
Is there any drum replacer that can get cymbal hits out of OHs? I can pull it off with an enormous channel strip and some tedious fine tuning surely some software can get close by now…
I tried loading SSD5 but the mapping was all over the place, just couldn’t figure it out 🤷♂️ I also have Slate trigger and this UVI plugin beats it in two features, responds much better to velocity and autounes the sample to the original drum.
I cant get this to load a sample, any idea why? I have tried over and over and it won't load a sample when I try from the main window, or trigger a sample I load in the editor. I would be so grateful if someone could help!
I was JUST about to buy Trigger today(It's on a GREAT sale before the end of the year)! BUT are you telling me that Trigger cannot use other drum libraries for sounds??? I would like to be able to use all of my other drum libraries and samples(which I already own) with Trigger.
Trigger doesn't work directly with other drum libraries, but you can load wav samples for single hits. For multi-velocity samples, you have to use the Trigger Instrument Editor to create TCI files (Trigger's proprietary sample format). Trigger can output MIDI to drop into your drum library of choice.
A lot of third party librairies will have .tci formats included as well, and you can make your own with the free instrument editor. So far the weakness of the UVI for me has been implementing round robin from a .wav library, unless I'm missing something?
Perhaps a silly question, but it looks like you cannot use UVI DR to capture and export midi, as it appears to analyse in real time? Sadly its requirement for Reasons Rack Extensions (which are not VSTs).
You can record and export midi - it's in the top right of the interface. Check out p.12 of the manual: uvi.s3.amazonaws.com/SC76-Drum_Replacer+/drum-replacer_manual.pdf
Thanks for the video. Does UVI require an ilok dongle? I’ve had terrible experience with support at Slate regarding my Trigger Platinum when I put a new DAW together. I’m going to look into UVI.
I'm new at drum replacement. Do you get useful results with the UVI Drum Replacer if the drums are not available as single tracks but as a mix where kick, snare, hi hat etc. are in one audio file?
It doesn't really work well with files like that, but you might be able to get it to work by duplicating the track and aggressively EQing and gating before the drum replacement.
Thank you for this informative review and analysis. The review appeared fair and no apparent bias which is a welcomed experience by comparison. We are evaluating a PI for Sound Replacement. Would love to see a comparison between UVI and Superior Drummer. Some report that Superior Drummer has relatively steep learning curve. I look the conciseness of your delivery and the ability to identify important feature attributes between the two products. It appears that UVI has more functional depth and implementation of the functions within UVI appear to be well thought out.
So would you say these are a drastic enough improvement to workflow than triggering midi with Studio One’s gate and loading samples off of Impact? Gate and Impact is working well enough for me so wondering if I actually need to spend the cash on Trigger 2 or UVI
It all depends on your workflow. The main down side of the Gate and Impact workflow is the lack of velocity sensitive Triggering. Trigger's sounds are great, and the UVI's ability to host VI drum plugins is incredible if you have a lot of them like I do. It also depends on the style of music you're creating. UVI and Trigger really excel at natural, acoustic drums.
@@GreenLightSound Thanks so much for such a quick response! So velocity sensitive triggering is something I'm definitely interested in. Sorta been looking at trigger recently (marked down to $49 currently) but decided to stick with Gate/Impact but now your vid has me considering UVI haha So generally I'm interested in the metal side of things so 'natural acoustic drums' tend not to be the focus generally but I am always interested in versatility....Also, I guess most of my samples and one shots are WAV so UVI is probably a more suitable option...hmmm
In the mixing business time is money forsure. I just don’t see UVI being time friendly. Trigger 2 is great with time. So I guess if you have time UVI could work better. But if you want to move quick trigger 2 is the king.
Good point. Trigger 2 is fast. Though I'm sure you could create your own custom presets in UVI with the controls set to your liking to cut down on time.
wow this looks fantastic. Velocity triggering, brilliant, when i used drum replacement last year in a song the intro had a snare crescendo from soft to loud and trying to get the drum sample to follow the crescendo was really difficult. Also the hosting of the VSTi within the plugin is a brilliant idea, no more having to do everything separately
Whatta amazing plugin UVI Drum Replacer is, made triggering process from VSTi sooooo easy. Thanks for sharing it!
It is amazing. Thanks for watching!
Brilliant! UVI is ahead of the curve in so many ways! Their Drum Designer is a beast as well! Thanks for the demo my friend 🙏🏾
I'm just becoming familiar with UVI's products. This one is amazing - I'll have to check out Drum Designer. Thanks for watching!
Fantastic overview and comparison. Very succinct and to the point and hits on the most important points. Was about to pull the trigger on Trigger 2 but looking into UVI now as a result of this video. Thanks!
I've been using logic's drum replacer but now I'm definitely getting this UVI replacer. Super cool.
I have SSD 5 and this a really affordable way to give it Drum Replacement Capabilities, great video by the way.
Thanks! If you have SSD then you pretty much have all of the sounds from Trigger built in!
@@GreenLightSound Exactly what I was thinking, also is there a way to use UVI for live use, I've been using it in the studio, but I was wanting to know before a friend bought it for that reason.
It could work, but as with all software latency would be the biggest issue. You can set a maximum latency in the settings, but the manual doesn't mention anything about live use.
UVI drum replacer work perfect
Thank you. Will be purchasing this. Never used this kind of product before. But looking forward to having the option available. Thank you for making this easy to follow video. Appreciate it. Makes me feel excited to dive in!!!! Wishing you continued success. I also hit your subscribe button.
It's a great tool. Have fun, and thanks for watching!
I absolutely LOVE UVI but is it a nightmare to install like Falcon was?
It was not. Simple installation.
Great comparison but would have loved to see ya bring in a recorded beat into each one and show how well they capture
Really impressive comparison. So clearly communicated, so well thought out. Thank you! Just subscribed to your channel.
Thanks!
Thanks for a really thorough and detailed comparision! I think I will go for UVI and try that for some projects that I have, I liked some of the features you brought up in the video...
Thanks for watching!
can we use it live? and not with a recorded drum, muchas gracias
Great comparison. I have one question though. In Trigger2 you can load just one TCI in one slot and it has all the velocities built in, right? So if I wanted to trigger say two samples (snare and room sound of that snare) including 8 different velocities for each sample how would that work in UVI? Would I have to use two instances of the plugin? One for the sample and one for the room sound?
where is the sensitivity button for uvi drum replacer.....thx
If I am using Audio Unit instruments like Addictive Drums 2 in Logic , can UVI access those ? Or do I have to download VST versions of them ? Thanks.They don't mention AU , only VST
Thank you for that tutorial . It was very helpful! Cheers
Glad it was helpful!
Great video!
i hope you dont mind the feedback: can you try to zoom in on individual sections in videos like these? i think it helps a lot highlight what part you're talking about, i had to pause the video a couple of times
otherwise thank you so much for the comparison
Don't mind the feedback at all.
Great video, thank you! Is it possible to run SSD5 inside of UVI- more specifically I'd love to be able to integrate the samples from Steven Slate's Expansion Packs
Yes it is.
@@GreenLightSound Thank you, I noticed that when you shifted from loading WAV samples into UVI to running the plug-in/virtual instrument Superior Drummer 3 that a few of the important controls went missing: The AI Tuning option, polyphony (whatever that does), and the 3 levels of control, respectively: A, H, D.
Are those options not available when using a virtual instrument and the samples contained within them?
Do you know if there’s a way to trigger different 808s say with the randomize button but it follows the midi notes? So if the midi hits c then a# then drum replacer will follow it.
Also wanted to add that you have such great videos. I love the comparison videos showing the harmonic distortion from different but similar plugins. You should do that with all plugins tho. I love the in depth type of stuff
Hey! Thanks for the video. Really helped me decide between both plugins. Quick question - what DAW is the one you are using. I cannot identify it! :)
Studio One
hye.. can ask something... i use UVI drum rplacer and SSDsampler for my STUDIO One ... i try use plugin insert on my UVI drum rplacer but the sample drum/sound from SSDsampler to UVI is not hear.. no signal i have... can help,... actually i want to try use DRUM rplacer to change my original SOund drum...
Hi, whats the difference in plugin latency between the two?
Why? It’s not for live use
Trigger can be used live… what of UVI?
Is there any drum replacer that can get cymbal hits out of OHs?
I can pull it off with an enormous channel strip and some tedious fine tuning surely some software can get close by now…
Superior Drummer 3 might be able to do it.
How does Trigger2 behave when used from inside Drum Replacer?
Unfortunately it doesn't work since the UVI only hosts virtual instruments, not plugins. It would be incredible if it had that feature too.
Green Light Sound
Thank you!
I tried loading SSD5 but the mapping was all over the place, just couldn’t figure it out 🤷♂️
I also have Slate trigger and this UVI plugin beats it in two features, responds much better to velocity and autounes the sample to the original drum.
Toton Studio
It tunes the samples to match the original drums!?? That’s awesome!!
@@ThemFuzzyMonsters It does. To be fair, you can tune the samples manually in Trigger.
I cant get this to load a sample, any idea why? I have tried over and over and it won't load a sample when I try from the main window, or trigger a sample I load in the editor. I would be so grateful if someone could help!
I was JUST about to buy Trigger today(It's on a GREAT sale before the end of the year)! BUT are you telling me that Trigger cannot use other drum libraries for sounds??? I would like to be able to use all of my other drum libraries and samples(which I already own) with Trigger.
Trigger doesn't work directly with other drum libraries, but you can load wav samples for single hits. For multi-velocity samples, you have to use the Trigger Instrument Editor to create TCI files (Trigger's proprietary sample format). Trigger can output MIDI to drop into your drum library of choice.
A lot of third party librairies will have .tci formats included as well, and you can make your own with the free instrument editor. So far the weakness of the UVI for me has been implementing round robin from a .wav library, unless I'm missing something?
Perhaps a silly question, but it looks like you cannot use UVI DR to capture and export midi, as it appears to analyse in real time? Sadly its requirement for Reasons Rack Extensions (which are not VSTs).
You can record and export midi - it's in the top right of the interface. Check out p.12 of the manual: uvi.s3.amazonaws.com/SC76-Drum_Replacer+/drum-replacer_manual.pdf
thanks !
You're welcome!
Very helpful. Thank you.
Glad it was helpful!
thanks!
Thanks for the video. Does UVI require an ilok dongle? I’ve had terrible experience with support at Slate regarding my Trigger Platinum when I put a new DAW together. I’m going to look into UVI.
I think they support machine-based authorization through ilok, so no dongle required.
I'm new at drum replacement. Do you get useful results with the UVI Drum Replacer if the drums are not available as single tracks but as a mix where kick, snare, hi hat etc. are in one audio file?
It doesn't really work well with files like that, but you might be able to get it to work by duplicating the track and aggressively EQing and gating before the drum replacement.
You can use Tracker in Superior Drummer 3
You can use expander/gate to filter out some beat.. other way would be to use DrumsSSX (split drums in separate tracks from stereo files)
thanks
when i load sjuperior drummer 3 it triggers the hit hat and not the snare, how can i change it?
Thank you for this informative review and analysis. The review appeared fair and no apparent bias which is a welcomed experience by comparison. We are evaluating a PI for Sound Replacement. Would love to see a comparison between UVI and Superior Drummer. Some report that Superior Drummer has relatively steep learning curve. I look the conciseness of your delivery and the ability to identify important feature attributes between the two products. It appears that UVI has more functional depth and implementation of the functions within UVI appear to be well thought out.
Where is the link?
Links are in the description now.
in cubase you can do this without any Drum replacement plugin :)
Interesting. How?
@@GreenLightSound posted here,th-cam.com/video/vYqc42JYLE4/w-d-xo.html sorry it's in Indonesian ..
Hit points and midi?
So would you say these are a drastic enough improvement to workflow than triggering midi with Studio One’s gate and loading samples off of Impact? Gate and Impact is working well enough for me so wondering if I actually need to spend the cash on Trigger 2 or UVI
It all depends on your workflow. The main down side of the Gate and Impact workflow is the lack of velocity sensitive Triggering. Trigger's sounds are great, and the UVI's ability to host VI drum plugins is incredible if you have a lot of them like I do. It also depends on the style of music you're creating. UVI and Trigger really excel at natural, acoustic drums.
@@GreenLightSound Thanks so much for such a quick response! So velocity sensitive triggering is something I'm definitely interested in. Sorta been looking at trigger recently (marked down to $49 currently) but decided to stick with Gate/Impact but now your vid has me considering UVI haha
So generally I'm interested in the metal side of things so 'natural acoustic drums' tend not to be the focus generally but I am always interested in versatility....Also, I guess most of my samples and one shots are WAV so UVI is probably a more suitable option...hmmm
Uvi cant detect fast kick and snares
Good job. Advice: if you smoke, quit now. If you don’t, see a good ENT doc.
He is Bryan Adams lol
@@BukanIbuMu - All the more reason to get it checked. I've had throat cancer (and cured it). It doesn't care who you are.
@@davidbourke.icu.iseeyouSorry for my bad joke. Glad that you have recovered.
In the mixing business time is money forsure. I just don’t see UVI being time friendly. Trigger 2 is great with time. So I guess if you have time UVI could work better. But if you want to move quick trigger 2 is the king.
Good point. Trigger 2 is fast. Though I'm sure you could create your own custom presets in UVI with the controls set to your liking to cut down on time.
wow this looks fantastic. Velocity triggering, brilliant, when i used drum replacement last year in a song the intro had a snare crescendo from soft to loud and trying to get the drum sample to follow the crescendo was really difficult. Also the hosting of the VSTi within the plugin is a brilliant idea, no more having to do everything separately
The VSTi feature is huge, especially if you have several drum libraries.