Cliff Grigg in the line-up you see here in this performance is the original drummer who recorded the first 4 albums with the band. Original guitarist Michael Weiley unfortunately passed away in 2018 from cancer. Original bass and vocalist Craig Bloxom left Australia in 2003 and left music behind for a time to become a chef. Bloxom has since returned to Australia and now lives in Newcastle and occasionally performs a reggae only version of Spies songs. Cliff Grigg's Spy V Spy includes David Romeo on guitar and Paul Coxon on bass and vocals.
I can't say that there was any evidence of it being stressful for either the crowd or the bands. It was a joyous, uplifting experience for everyone in the room and I can't imagine why anyone wouldn't want to celebrate that. The only negative comments I've seen so far were that the Spies' set was far too short and people wanted them to do a longer performance. If you're keen on psychological subjects Blox, I'd probably suggest looking in a different direction to the one you were dwelling on, and head over to the myriad scientific studies covering the positive impacts of nostalgia, and musical nostalgia in particular. There was a lovely little piece in Forbes mag earlier in the year that summarised it beautifully: Musical nostalgia creates resilience & joy in difficult times and fosters social connectedness and relationship well-being. It strengthens social bonds and creates a sense of belonging, continuity and purpose in life. We could all do with more of that.
CRAIG YOU AND MICHAEL WEILEY WERE THE REAL SPY, STOP GETTING INTO THIS REGGAE THING, YOU JUST STEPPED INTO THE GAP THAT YOU LEFT. PLAY SPY ROCK, TAKE CONTROL. THIS IS JUST A FAN'S OPINION. YOU ARE THE LAST SPY. WE WANT THIS LEGACY ALIVE. ROGERSPY.
@@StudioDC3 That's a thoughtful response. My perspective is somewhat different (respectfully) in the sense that Michael Weiley and I formed Spy v Spy and asked Cliff to join us. It's a unique perspective that nobody else will ever share or understand. My opinion is Cliff suffers from cognitive immobility because he cannot move on from the past by calling this group Spy v Spy. If he called it CLIFFSPYS or GRIGGSPYS or SPYSCLIFF that would be ethical because Spy v Spy was Cliff, Michael and myself and not this band playing above which is my point. It comes down to a matter of integrity.
@@Reggae_SPYS Thanks for clarifying mate. I suppose there are a few sides to that and most people won't have the background to the story to really understand the nuance of it and it's probably best left for you guys to sort those things out privately. I will say, though, that as a music fan, it seems reasonably normal for a band to change members and continue using the name so the fans relate to it and have an understanding of what they are going to see and experience. With larger bands, it's not such an issue if 2 or 3 members change during it's lifetime. It's a little different when it's only a 3-piece to start with but with an original member in the band, I don't think there's any issue from a fans point of view. You calling what you are doing Reggae Spys makes sense as you've significantly changed the way the original songs are presented and people don't get a shock coming to see your version of it. There are a significant number of fans though who long to hear the songs in their original form. It's kind of what I was trying to suggest above in my reply. Most bands are actually in the business of selling nostalgia. I don't see any issues with both co-existing, as fans get to experience both versions if they want to, or just follow the version they have a personal preference for. Personally, I'm more a fan of the individual musicians than a band as such and love seeing them do all kinds of things that are musically interesting. Some people seem bent on creating division and want to make it this tribal thing when they are missing the point - it's about the music and what it means and is trying to communicate. It's about the art - and the enjoyment of it - not who is playing it. I'm a big Van Halen fan and have been through that same bullshit so many times over the years and lineups - it's such a waste of energy that could be put to much better use elsewhere.
@@grumpy-g5s over the last few weeks ive seen Tism Machine Gun Fellatio Jen Cloher The Fauves , Custard ,Frenzee , Blackfire , and last night Magic Dirt ... Sorry to disappoint you 💜🤘
Few bands rarely keep a single line-up from inception. I'm a massive Van Halen fan and loved all of the versions of the band throughout the years. Very different singers but both produced great music. Sometimes it improves a band. Look at the impact Bruce Dickinson had on Iron Maiden. Travis Barker joining Blink 182. Chilli Peppers - Chad Smith has been an epic addition. There are definitely some people that feel irreplaceable but I suspect that very much depends on how distinctive their presence was, whether the music changes significantly after that roster change and the individual's personal association and experience of that band / line-up. I think it's up to the fans to decide individually not for any one person to tell them how to feel about a band or anything. Crowded House don't seem to have any problems selling out massive concerts to legions of adoring fans. As a drummer, I am a Paul Hester fan but I don't think he contributed enough individually or musically to Crowded House that they couldn't continue without him. You may not personally have been one of those tens of thousands, but why try to ruin someone's appreciation and enjoyment of the music, or more importantly, try to reduce the value of a band that, for whatever reason, continues on without the same line-up? I saw a sold-out crowd of 2,500+ people go wild for this Spies line-up and the show they put on at The Coliseum that night. They sounded amazing and it was just nice to be able to experience that awesome Spies sound and their music live again. Being a drummer, I know I am biased when it comes to the impact a drummer can have on a brand, but I think Cliff's unique fusion of rock and reggae styles was one of the most unique things about Spy V Spy and really made a lot of their music stand out from the rest of what was being pumped out at that time.
Fantastic ✌️
Love it .... well, done!!! get Blox back as well. - RIP Mike
wow Cliff you sit low on the kit !
This is no real spy?
Cliff Grigg in the line-up you see here in this performance is the original drummer who recorded the first 4 albums with the band. Original guitarist Michael Weiley unfortunately passed away in 2018 from cancer. Original bass and vocalist Craig Bloxom left Australia in 2003 and left music behind for a time to become a chef. Bloxom has since returned to Australia and now lives in Newcastle and occasionally performs a reggae only version of Spies songs.
Cliff Grigg's Spy V Spy includes David Romeo on guitar and Paul Coxon on bass and vocals.
"Cognitive immobility" - when you’re mentally trapped in a place from your past
I can't say that there was any evidence of it being stressful for either the crowd or the bands. It was a joyous, uplifting experience for everyone in the room and I can't imagine why anyone wouldn't want to celebrate that.
The only negative comments I've seen so far were that the Spies' set was far too short and people wanted them to do a longer performance.
If you're keen on psychological subjects Blox, I'd probably suggest looking in a different direction to the one you were dwelling on, and head over to the myriad scientific studies covering the positive impacts of nostalgia, and musical nostalgia in particular.
There was a lovely little piece in Forbes mag earlier in the year that summarised it beautifully:
Musical nostalgia creates resilience & joy in difficult times and fosters social connectedness and relationship well-being. It strengthens social bonds and creates a sense of belonging, continuity and purpose in life.
We could all do with more of that.
CRAIG YOU AND MICHAEL WEILEY WERE THE REAL SPY, STOP GETTING INTO THIS REGGAE THING, YOU JUST STEPPED INTO THE GAP THAT YOU LEFT. PLAY SPY ROCK, TAKE CONTROL. THIS IS JUST A FAN'S OPINION. YOU ARE THE LAST SPY. WE WANT THIS LEGACY ALIVE. ROGERSPY.
@@StudioDC3 That's a thoughtful response. My perspective is somewhat different (respectfully) in the sense that Michael Weiley and I formed Spy v Spy and asked Cliff to join us. It's a unique perspective that nobody else will ever share or understand. My opinion is Cliff suffers from cognitive immobility because he cannot move on from the past by calling this group Spy v Spy. If he called it CLIFFSPYS or GRIGGSPYS or SPYSCLIFF that would be ethical because Spy v Spy was Cliff, Michael and myself and not this band playing above which is my point. It comes down to a matter of integrity.
@@rogervieira4796 Já ouviu nosso novo álbum Rogério? Dê-me seu endereço e eu lhe enviarei uma cópia e você verá que é algo legal.
@@Reggae_SPYS Thanks for clarifying mate. I suppose there are a few sides to that and most people won't have the background to the story to really understand the nuance of it and it's probably best left for you guys to sort those things out privately.
I will say, though, that as a music fan, it seems reasonably normal for a band to change members and continue using the name so the fans relate to it and have an understanding of what they are going to see and experience. With larger bands, it's not such an issue if 2 or 3 members change during it's lifetime. It's a little different when it's only a 3-piece to start with but with an original member in the band, I don't think there's any issue from a fans point of view.
You calling what you are doing Reggae Spys makes sense as you've significantly changed the way the original songs are presented and people don't get a shock coming to see your version of it.
There are a significant number of fans though who long to hear the songs in their original form. It's kind of what I was trying to suggest above in my reply. Most bands are actually in the business of selling nostalgia.
I don't see any issues with both co-existing, as fans get to experience both versions if they want to, or just follow the version they have a personal preference for.
Personally, I'm more a fan of the individual musicians than a band as such and love seeing them do all kinds of things that are musically interesting.
Some people seem bent on creating division and want to make it this tribal thing when they are missing the point - it's about the music and what it means and is trying to communicate. It's about the art - and the enjoyment of it - not who is playing it.
I'm a big Van Halen fan and have been through that same bullshit so many times over the years and lineups - it's such a waste of energy that could be put to much better use elsewhere.
No Bloxy no Spy v spy
No Doc no Angels
No Hester no Crowded House
No Hutchinson no Inxs
no one lives forever , you need to open your mind and heart ! just saying 🙂
@@grumpy-g5s over the last few weeks ive seen Tism Machine Gun Fellatio Jen Cloher The Fauves , Custard ,Frenzee , Blackfire , and last night Magic Dirt ... Sorry to disappoint you 💜🤘
Few bands rarely keep a single line-up from inception.
I'm a massive Van Halen fan and loved all of the versions of the band throughout the years. Very different singers but both produced great music.
Sometimes it improves a band.
Look at the impact Bruce Dickinson had on Iron Maiden.
Travis Barker joining Blink 182.
Chilli Peppers - Chad Smith has been an epic addition.
There are definitely some people that feel irreplaceable but I suspect that very much depends on how distinctive their presence was, whether the music changes significantly after that roster change and the individual's personal association and experience of that band / line-up.
I think it's up to the fans to decide individually not for any one person to tell them how to feel about a band or anything.
Crowded House don't seem to have any problems selling out massive concerts to legions of adoring fans. As a drummer, I am a Paul Hester fan but I don't think he contributed enough individually or musically to Crowded House that they couldn't continue without him.
You may not personally have been one of those tens of thousands, but why try to ruin someone's appreciation and enjoyment of the music, or more importantly, try to reduce the value of a band that, for whatever reason, continues on without the same line-up?
I saw a sold-out crowd of 2,500+ people go wild for this Spies line-up and the show they put on at The Coliseum that night.
They sounded amazing and it was just nice to be able to experience that awesome Spies sound and their music live again.
Being a drummer, I know I am biased when it comes to the impact a drummer can have on a brand, but I think Cliff's unique fusion of rock and reggae styles was one of the most unique things about Spy V Spy and really made a lot of their music stand out from the rest of what was being pumped out at that time.