Sukuna still isn’t a curse. The terminology and wording can be confusing, but he’s only ever called a curse because he’s evil, powerful, and monstrous. He’s not an actual curse he’s just a human, but an incarnated sorcerer now.
Jonathan and Joseph are ftl by scaling to dio in his fight against jotaro. Plus Joseph has a bunch of projectiles with his machine gun, grenades and cracker volley. Not to mention with just a zap Joseph could just turn of yuji's brain or heart. I feel like it would be close but Jonathan and Joseph would have this.
Exactly. They can one-shot and have the speed advantage though Yujis’s abilities could still prove troublesome. Though for speed you don’t need to scale P3 DIO, as Joseph has his own light beam dodging feat from the Super Aja. Jonathan should upscale from Bruford after absorbing Zeppeli’s Hamon, Bruford dodging Jonathan’s Hamon point-blank underwater being calced to around 70% the speed of light.
@@SenselessdogruffruffSounds less like bias and more like garbage media literacy on your end. Your argument falls flat if you remembered what happened like 2 minutes ago. Jotaro (obviously FTL) had to use Time Stop to even land hits on a Pucci who JUST obtained Made in Heaven.
From what I've looked up, the average human can exert between 10 and 30 psi with a single finger, while they can exert around 150 psi with a punch. However, this is with pinching or pressing (which would use the arm or another finger, to provide more force). Since Tarkus more accurately "poked" the boulder however, another study claimed the average human "poke" force was just over 10 pounds. Rounding down, this gives a 14x multiplier to poking vs punching. So Tarkus could possibly produce around 344 tonnes of tnt when punching.
I wonder how often people are gonna bring up domain or cursed technique feats Like people need to know that cursed techniques and domains don't scale to physicals AT ALL. Domain amplification and simple domain as well are just utilizing their domain to counteract certain abilities, effectively anti-hax, which itself is a form of hax
You forgot to consider Joseph’s ultimate ability: Being ridiculously, stupidly lucky. Homie finna learn domain expansion on accident or something wacky like that and somehow beat Yuji in a domain clash
^2.5 problem is that it's inconsistent Gege himself had to address it in an extra it just sounded cooler to him These guy would be having planetary to solar app if it was actually to ^2.5
So like. Endurance doesnt really matter here cause Hamon users can stop someones heart and mind with Hamon as they have done before. Since each strike of Johnathans is a hamon strike it would affect him
Only thing I can point out is that the Black Flash isn’t a 2.5x multiplier, it’s an exponent. Say you strike with a rating of 10, a Black Flash would make it a 10 x 15, therefore you’d strike with a rating of 150.
Jonathan could be scaled higher in my opinion. Part 3 shows that Dio is around the same level as Part 1 Dio (or higher with Joseph's blood?). So to scale Dio3 we need to scale Jotaro who is large town+ to island level AP and durability. (Thanks to the Sun feat), tho island is too much of a highball in my opinion, I prefer mountain level as a mid ball. That puts Dio in mountain level durability to be able to tank Star Platinum. So by retro scaling Dio3 to Dio1, Jonathan fought on equal footing at the end of Part 1 and eventually "killed" Dio, which would make Jonathan at mountain level by pure logic. While I agree that Hamon surely has a damage multiplier against the vampires, Jonathan's hits could probably hit much lower than Dio's mountain durability. (Star Platinum hitting Dio with full strength is a mountain level feat while Jonathan probably "weakened" Dio with Hamon or boosted his damage up to Dio's durability). But I truly believe that Jonathan being able to keep up with Dio puts him around/lower than Part 3 Dio, so AT THE VERY LEAST in the small-large town levels. Thank you for coming to my TED talk.
@@Kira22558 with The Sun fight. I believe the calc is the Sun's energy output lighting up a huge part of the Arabian desert. That output is equal to large town/island level of power, and Chariot parried its projectiles. And because Star Platinum is always stated to be way above Chariot, Jotaro is comfortably in that Large Town to Island level category. It depends on who you ask tho because The Sun calc goes from small town all the way up to island+. Personally I prefer to use mountain level as a mid ball, because island is really too high for any JoJo characters besides Ultimate Kars maybe. There are other feats like Enya's Justice being literally a large town feat for Jotaro but The Sun is more popular and gives room for Jotaro to be high balled lol
The only thing I take issue with is part 3 Dio “tanking” Star Platinum. He was riddled with holes at one point(Legit would’ve lost if not for Joseph’s blood) and even after taking in Joseph’s blood Jotaro still folded his legs like a fucking lawn chair. I’m also questioning the Sun scaling just because anything above town level just seems downright absurd for JoJo’s(Plus I don’t really look at energy output feats the same as raw attack power), but it’s whatever.
@@Stryfe52 That's powerscaling for you. The Sun can output that much energy, so his beams use that very same power he outputs = mountain level AP for a mid ball. But yeah, I shouldn't have used "tanking". I meant it like Dio didn't instantly die by Star Platinum's punches. The fact they both traded blows and were relatively alright meant that their durability and AP are around the same. People just say they have the same AP and durability for simplicity's sake. As for the mountain scaling, it's just numbers and comparisons honestly. I prefer using every option and opportunities to put Jojo scaling as high as it can be realistically, but it's mostly because the fact that Large Town level is EASILY attainable because of Enya and Justice (the manga said all of Star Platinum's body shares the same power, so inhaling all of Justice = large town feat). So the possibility of Jotaro hitting harder isn't too far fetched in my opinion.
One slight thing, im not sure if it's the same in his domain but Yuji' dismantles targets the barriers between souls not the souls itself. It works primarily to counter possession how it effects a regular person is still and will remain unknown.
@@TheRealLoopDev I see, your 11 years old. Watch the video, they have no counter against domain and his strength scaling is much higher than either of them.
Could you do a video about the joker vs giorno fight ? To me, the outcome still do not make any sense. Like, they made GER seem like a shield that can withstand any attack. And then, when he was attacked by a unstoppable attack, that shield breaked. But we all know that GER do not work like that. He do not whitstand any attack, he prevents said attack from ever happening in the first place. and then, they use a non canon game that do not make any sense, to explain why giorno lose. EoH GER and manga GER does not work the same. RTZ does not active when giorno tries to punch his enemy or smt, it's a automatic ability.
@@kovxrri using his personas ? Yes, of course. A shame if he was not able to use them, since using abilities count as an action. Not to mention, GER ability was able to affect acasual beings.
Can you try each Jojo villian from part 1 through part 8 and see how far does each villain go in Jjk like dio brando part 1 against all of Jjk then Kars than DIO than kira and if they have power ups like for example DIO or kira gets awakening then you can also do awakening if they loose or wanna see what happens if they would fight with awaken or not awaken and idk abt kira making it that long but oh well
Honestly it's super close besides jjba characters being sub-relative to mftl+, which there are jjk ftl scales, but it's unclear if those are aim dodging or just for looks
@IrumaA-y8j gojo definitely isn't hyper at most he probably around sub relative-relative witch is around 20%-99% the speed of light due to him pulling off being so fast with blue it was making hundreds of him at once
@imthethundergod69 thats not a speed feat for gojo, its literally a reaction feat at best since he could use it so often in such quick succession Actual speed feats involve just moving that fast, this is equivalent to saying you're faster than a horse in full sprint because you own a car
Ok but the thing is Doed joseph has hermit purple? If yes than yuji is just done Let me explain The vines as shown is the dio fight are capable of holding the weight of joseph and swing him arround spider man style That implies that 1 josephs bare strengh is insane because he was doing that with one hand without hamon And 2 the vines can sustain insane amounts of strain and force So joseph could put the vines inside yujis head and just crush his brain
people need to understand GOJO IS STILL THE STRONGEST SORCERER EVEN SUKUNA NEEDED TO CHEAT TO BEAT HIM SUKUNA IN BASE HAD NO WAY TO BEAT GOJO YUJI STILL ISN'T NEARLY AS STRONG THEY HAD TO JUMP SUKUNA AND ONLY WON BECAUSE GOJO DESTROYED SOME OF SUKUNA'S STRONGEST TECHNIQUES
joseph tanked a sunlight overdrive from kars whos hamon was >1000x the power of the sun and had minor injuries so does that make his durability solar level+ ? ToT
Why do we calc someone as defeating another’s level. Hacks aren’t considered for example Hamon vs Vampire undead is a huge buff. Like an elemental weakness. This bypasses all safeguards and defenses eroding the undead. Does it affect living tissue the same way? Using a weakness isn’t the same as possessing comparable strength stats. Unreliable at best.
No while Jonathan ciuld be argued to be stronger Yujj has dealt with a wider variety of threats. Not to mention yuji can heal himself and his soul punches attack the soul. So no Joseph could outsmart yuji but yuji is to durable ahd would likely beat his ass the moment joselg thinks hes down.
Jonathan can heal himself with hamon as long as he breathes. And Hamon can just directly shut off his brain, no soul attacks needed. Not that yuji would be able to even land a attack before he gets speed blitzed into oblivion.
@@Theo-kapagioridis no you don't understand let's say sukuna punches at 1m pounds of force let's say yuji punches at 1k. 1k to the power of 2.5 is 36m and if you want to go further than that gojo let's say punches at 1m too that's 1.E15 the planet would divide itself from that punch
More like blessed technique since it mimics the sun and is the energy of life. It’s not generated by brewing negative emotions but by controlled breathing (which kinda needs a hopeful attitude to be maintained, or else you might hyperventilate), so I feel like they’re kind of opposites
@@geschnitztekiste4111 Yeah, I was thinking that maybe it would be more equivalent to RCT and shut down some of Yuji's stuff, because of how cursed energy reacts to positive energy (like RCT energy)
I genuinely wanna know where this narrative of "hamon negates durability" comes from bcs i watched all 6 parts of JJBA and i really didn't see it at all.
my glorious king joseph claps plot armor boy For clarification: the pillarmen are WAY WAY WAY stronger than jojo, but he still beat them with intelligence hamon and adaptation: joseph should AT LEAST be SOMEWHAT relative in strength to yuji, where he can dodge and trade blows, factoring in that joseph can fight at light speed or higher (yuji is mach 8 compareed to light being 874030) he could definitely get really good hits in (even if you were to factor in kashigoats electromagnetic shenanigans (like 90% the speed of light) joseph was easily reacting to space ripper stingy eyes, which are light speed (i think) which SHOULD put him at least at 2x ftl, massively highballed yuji vs a lowballed joseph in speed isnt even close
First of all, Joeseph is not remotely near ftl speeds, as space ripper stingy eyes is not light, and is in fact just eye fluid that is shot out incredibly fast. On top of that he doesn't even react to them, he aim dodges and makes predictions as to where Straizo will shoot. He does reflect one by predicting where Straizo will aim for, and the other one actually hits him, and if he is anywhere NEAR ftl stopping both should be a breeze. Please do tell me how he is lightspeed otherwise, and how that doesn't directly contradict with other things that happen and are stated by Joeseph himself and/or people better at hamon and strength in general like Lisa Lisa.
@@Gingerbread_Man55 alr he doesn't get ftl by stingy eyes but from being comparable to did who is ftl due to being as strong as star platinum which has done ftl feats and being better in Hamon oddest debunk it
@@tenshadowsnotbumgumi So you're telling me that if he has to aim dodge and can only get 1 of 2 projectiles not even REMOTELY close to light speed, he is still light speed? Like that is in direct contradiction with whatever scaling chain you want to go down. The sun calc is also bull imo too because the entire point of the hanged man fight is that the hanged man moves around at light speed when going between mirrors, so they can't hit him unless there's only 1 thing for him to go to, so they can then just predict and cut right there. That ENTIRE fight just disproves that chariot can perceive and move at light speeds, he can't even catch a singular spec without forcing it to go on a specific path he already knows. So its my thought that since that sun, while fairly realistic, isn't shooting out true light speed flair attacks because again, they couldn't get anywhere near lightspeed before, and they haven't grown an insane amount since.
This powerscaling nerd terms like 'small town level' etc is so out of place for this channel. only noticed kaleb start saying it in the past year or so
I think Joseph alone could beat Yuji because he found a way to stop an unkillable, multi-powered, hamon boosted, adapting, faster than the speed of light, transforming, buff guy
I would actually say Jonathan joestar would also win, in the final episode of part one, we see Jonathan use the last of his Hamon to both control brain function of a Zombie and makes it move to the ships paddle screw shaft, which made the ship explode, he came up with this plan while he couldn't breathe and randomly on his wedding day, Jonathan's a quick thinker we just didn't see enough of him and what he meant to do with his Hamon originally was to destroyer the zombie but it wasn't enough , so he came up with that plan as soon as his Hamon came out.
I think yuji would lock in against Joseph and pull out a black flash or two then finish him off with a domain. Before Joseph can pull out a plan to win.
@IrumaA-y8j it's not coping in pretty much every important fight or fight that pushed yuji he's always locked in an pulled of a BF. So it would be no different here
Actually, Black Flash isn't a multiplyer, it's to the power(exponent). If you Black Flash and you intended to hit them with a power of 10, the power would be 316.227766017.
A Black Flash is only a 2.5x multiplier, it is impossible to hit someone with a black flash with the power of 10. "Black Flash is a distortion in space that occurs when cursed energy is applied within 0.000001 seconds of a physical hit. When a sorcerer is able to achieve this, their cursed energy flashes black, and the destructive power of their strike is equal to a normal hit to the power of 2.5."
@@YugiInSchool"to the power of 2.5" brother that means an exponent. And he's saying your base strike if related as a number for strength was 10 then that put to the power of 2.5 would be 316 ish, he's right. And Gege has clarified it before
Jonathan alone slams Yuji, Jonathan is one of the most physically strongest in his verse he is able to scale to a stand, Yuji gets the Harmon barrage and gets slammed and goes to sleep😂
Their domains dont actually scale to their stats. You can only realistically argue that a domain that creates any physical matter is just a matter of how much cursed energy that person has. Not to mention that you'd have to argue revived toji also scales to Dagon because he broke the domain after killing him
@ yeah I would argue Toji scales to Dagon and creating something is a feat in ap if a character created a universe they’d be universal even if we’ve only seen them destroy a building before
@georgebegley1065 Theres an issue of them not actually creating much of anything, its just using energy to mimic certain elements I wanna remind you that domains on the inside tend to be much larger than in the outside, so a good amount of this is illusionary as well, and nothing implies its anything spacial related
@ yea it does imply it’s special as gojo made a domain the size of a basketball proving they’re creating pocket dimensions not illusions. I don’t know where you are getting that from and not to mention the entire island and ocean Dagon creates can be interacted with even if it’s only energy as you say he’s still creating a mass of energy the size of an island
@@georgebegley1065 Cursed energy doesn't equal mass, and as far as we've seen nothing has any real weight, water seemingly isnt even wet either which is another thing that shows its not exactly real. That doesnt even mention how inanimate objects are almost entirely ignored unless someone's carrying it, and I highly doubt a 100% spacial ability just filters out everything but people A domain is also a glorified barrier technique, you can easily say the individuals are being shrunk down idividually and contained in a barrier rather than being put in a pocket dimension. I wanna remind you that Sukuna doesn't need a barrier for his technique, so wheres the spacial aspect there?
Yuji is nowhere near as strong. After the fight with gojo, sukuna was massively weakened. Yuji only beat him after all the cumulative damage and a desperate struggle with a lot of backup
Where I can agree he isn't on somone like gojo or sukuan level and the pretty much jumped a weaken sukuna post awaken yuji was stated by sukuna and the narrator to have continuously grown in power and the 2.5 boost of the back to back black flash wasn't helping sukuna case
Yuji is nowhere near as strong. After the fight with gojo, sukuna was massively weakened. Yuji only beat him after all the cumulative damage and a desperate struggle with a lot of backup
joseph would prolly be like “you next line is black flash!” then yuji finds the inverted spear of heaven infused with hamon up his ass
i`m never reading comments again while eating. Almost choked to death XD
NANIII!!?!?!
ive seen this comment like 3x
I laughed so hard that i sharted
i laughed so hard i shat my pants and felt the liquids reach my feet in school lmao
Joseph joestar would just run away from yuji till he found a way to counter blackflash
Accurate.
he doesn't lol
The Secret Joestar Technique!!!
The counter to blackflash is dodge.
@@idavisbandis that a tfs reference
Joseph Joestar and Caesar Zeppeli vs Yuji Itadori and Aoi Todo would be sick
Todo interaction with Caesar would be undeniable hilarious.
Todo falling towards Caesar, then he switches places with a large rock infused with Cursed Energy
Todo: now answer, what kind of woman is your type?!
Joseph: japanese. Also, my mom.
Suzie: ayo?🤨
Joseph Joestar defeated the ultimate life form and Yuji Itadori defeated the Fraud King of Pudding, such legendary victories.
Joesph definitely got lucky bro if it wasn’t for the red stone of Asia he would’ve been cooked easy
@@MILLENniumEntertainment01bro said "Asia" 💀💀
@@MILLENniumEntertainment01tbh they both in unstable volcano.
@@Kira22558 the volcano isn’t what beat Kars, it was him getting launched into space because of the stone and the volcano
@@escapefromtibet2530 Besides that am I wrong
Sukuna still isn’t a curse. The terminology and wording can be confusing, but he’s only ever called a curse because he’s evil, powerful, and monstrous. He’s not an actual curse he’s just a human, but an incarnated sorcerer now.
Curse, Incarnated Sorcerer, Fraud(lol), don't matter what he is cause he's Poukuna now (+ Dust gg)
Sukuna is more of a "Cursed Object" incarnated in a host body, not human anymore
@ he’s still more human than he is curse.
in the last chapters he’s shown to have a cursed form meaning he would have to be a curse
@@twirlyflame9844 what do you mean cursed form?
Joseph learnin a yellow flash outta nowhere fr
Joseph just hits Yuji with Minato Namikaze😂
Bro reversed the JJK jumping buff💀
Jonathan and Joseph are ftl by scaling to dio in his fight against jotaro. Plus Joseph has a bunch of projectiles with his machine gun, grenades and cracker volley. Not to mention with just a zap Joseph could just turn of yuji's brain or heart. I feel like it would be close but Jonathan and Joseph would have this.
Both Jonathan and Joseph are basically just better Yuji, they're gonna jump bro.
Exactly. They can one-shot and have the speed advantage though Yujis’s abilities could still prove troublesome.
Though for speed you don’t need to scale P3 DIO, as Joseph has his own light beam dodging feat from the Super Aja. Jonathan should upscale from Bruford after absorbing Zeppeli’s Hamon, Bruford dodging Jonathan’s Hamon point-blank underwater being calced to around 70% the speed of light.
Made in heaven is not even faster than dolphins I am a jojo fan but clearly I am the only one here with no bias
@@SenselessdogruffruffSounds less like bias and more like garbage media literacy on your end. Your argument falls flat if you remembered what happened like 2 minutes ago. Jotaro (obviously FTL) had to use Time Stop to even land hits on a Pucci who JUST obtained Made in Heaven.
They're only FTL reaction wise, as shown with Smokey being able to run with Joseph for a short while
I haven't watched it yet however I know for a fact that Jonathan would beat the respect into Yuji and Joseph would just troll
Facts
I feel like theyd get along, yuji and johnathon
From what I've looked up, the average human can exert between 10 and 30 psi with a single finger, while they can exert around 150 psi with a punch. However, this is with pinching or pressing (which would use the arm or another finger, to provide more force). Since Tarkus more accurately "poked" the boulder however, another study claimed the average human "poke" force was just over 10 pounds. Rounding down, this gives a 14x multiplier to poking vs punching. So Tarkus could possibly produce around 344 tonnes of tnt when punching.
i think yuji and todo is a crazy team up. everytime they are on screen fighting together, its a reverse jump
I wonder how often people are gonna bring up domain or cursed technique feats
Like people need to know that cursed techniques and domains don't scale to physicals AT ALL. Domain amplification and simple domain as well are just utilizing their domain to counteract certain abilities, effectively anti-hax, which itself is a form of hax
Like clockwork, someone already mentioned it
Joseph just pulls out the Tommy gun and shoots yuji
You forgot to consider Joseph’s ultimate ability: Being ridiculously, stupidly lucky.
Homie finna learn domain expansion on accident or something wacky like that and somehow beat Yuji in a domain clash
great video btw love it when you upload
essentially just 2 toji's against Yuji. Bruh.
Lil bro def did not watch jojos
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@@powerexists5350what you mean by that
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2:55 this is not the actual multiplier btw, I forgot what it was if someone wouldn’t mind leaving it in the replies, it’s way bigger than 2.5
it’s to the power of 2.5
@ thank you
^2.5 problem is that it's inconsistent
Gege himself had to address it in an extra it just sounded cooler to him
These guy would be having planetary to solar app if it was actually to ^2.5
Videos like this is why I’m still subscribed.
Joseph is the best jojo
Respectable choice but Johnathan is the best jojo
@@orangesodaninja8882giorno is literally Joseph mixed with Jonathan and a lil bit of part 4 josuke
@@shrekiphus also good choice but Johnathan is still best jojo
this is fitting for my jojo/jujutsu kaisen Playlist
So like. Endurance doesnt really matter here cause Hamon users can stop someones heart and mind with Hamon as they have done before. Since each strike of Johnathans is a hamon strike it would affect him
Only thing I can point out is that the Black Flash isn’t a 2.5x multiplier, it’s an exponent.
Say you strike with a rating of 10, a Black Flash would make it a 10 x 15, therefore you’d strike with a rating of 150.
That's not quite how exponents work. 10^2.5 works out to about 316
@@Boppin. Thank you, I really don’t do math very well 🫡😂
it got debunked
Jonathan could be scaled higher in my opinion.
Part 3 shows that Dio is around the same level as Part 1 Dio (or higher with Joseph's blood?).
So to scale Dio3 we need to scale Jotaro who is large town+ to island level AP and durability. (Thanks to the Sun feat), tho island is too much of a highball in my opinion, I prefer mountain level as a mid ball. That puts Dio in mountain level durability to be able to tank Star Platinum.
So by retro scaling Dio3 to Dio1, Jonathan fought on equal footing at the end of Part 1 and eventually "killed" Dio, which would make Jonathan at mountain level by pure logic.
While I agree that Hamon surely has a damage multiplier against the vampires, Jonathan's hits could probably hit much lower than Dio's mountain durability. (Star Platinum hitting Dio with full strength is a mountain level feat while Jonathan probably "weakened" Dio with Hamon or boosted his damage up to Dio's durability).
But I truly believe that Jonathan being able to keep up with Dio puts him around/lower than Part 3 Dio, so AT THE VERY LEAST in the small-large town levels.
Thank you for coming to my TED talk.
How the hell do you Even jotaro to island level?
I think town+ makes more sense.
@@Kira22558 with The Sun fight. I believe the calc is the Sun's energy output lighting up a huge part of the Arabian desert.
That output is equal to large town/island level of power, and Chariot parried its projectiles. And because Star Platinum is always stated to be way above Chariot, Jotaro is comfortably in that Large Town to Island level category.
It depends on who you ask tho because The Sun calc goes from small town all the way up to island+.
Personally I prefer to use mountain level as a mid ball, because island is really too high for any JoJo characters besides Ultimate Kars maybe. There are other feats like Enya's Justice being literally a large town feat for Jotaro but The Sun is more popular and gives room for Jotaro to be high balled lol
The only thing I take issue with is part 3 Dio “tanking” Star Platinum. He was riddled with holes at one point(Legit would’ve lost if not for Joseph’s blood) and even after taking in Joseph’s blood Jotaro still folded his legs like a fucking lawn chair.
I’m also questioning the Sun scaling just because anything above town level just seems downright absurd for JoJo’s(Plus I don’t really look at energy output feats the same as raw attack power), but it’s whatever.
@@Stryfe52 That's powerscaling for you. The Sun can output that much energy, so his beams use that very same power he outputs = mountain level AP for a mid ball.
But yeah, I shouldn't have used "tanking". I meant it like Dio didn't instantly die by Star Platinum's punches. The fact they both traded blows and were relatively alright meant that their durability and AP are around the same. People just say they have the same AP and durability for simplicity's sake.
As for the mountain scaling, it's just numbers and comparisons honestly. I prefer using every option and opportunities to put Jojo scaling as high as it can be realistically, but it's mostly because the fact that Large Town level is EASILY attainable because of Enya and Justice (the manga said all of Star Platinum's body shares the same power, so inhaling all of Justice = large town feat). So the possibility of Jotaro hitting harder isn't too far fetched in my opinion.
As long they don't gets touch by BF.
Just started the video and I'm gonna say that Blood Manipulation allows Yuji to use Space Ripper Stingy Eyes without firing from his eyes.
Jonathan would somehow adopt Yuji and teach him Hamon to counter Sukuna and other curses and give him a good, meaningful life.
Could I have that calc on Tarkus being City Block? Would love to see it bro
Would be nice to see a video discussing how far itadori goes in jojo like a gountlet where he fights each protagonist and villians of each part
One slight thing, im not sure if it's the same in his domain but Yuji' dismantles targets the barriers between souls not the souls itself. It works primarily to counter possession how it effects a regular person is still and will remain unknown.
Yuji can see the shape of the soul since he had sukuna inside him, that’s why he was a mahito counter so no this argument doesn’t work
Yuji gonna need a partner Man U know it’s gonna be todo come on
Coffing baby vs hydrogen bomb
Which ones which?
@shrekiphus joseph and jonathan are the hydrogen bomb
did you watch the video... or read JJK
@BolboSwigins I read jjk, and I know the joestar family enough to know that they could beat a 17 yo with punching powers
@@TheRealLoopDev I see, your 11 years old. Watch the video, they have no counter against domain and his strength scaling is much higher than either of them.
Could you do a video about the joker vs giorno fight ? To me, the outcome still do not make any sense. Like, they made GER seem like a shield that can withstand any attack. And then, when he was attacked by a unstoppable attack, that shield breaked. But we all know that GER do not work like that. He do not whitstand any attack, he prevents said attack from ever happening in the first place. and then, they use a non canon game that do not make any sense, to explain why giorno lose. EoH GER and manga GER does not work the same. RTZ does not active when giorno tries to punch his enemy or smt, it's a automatic ability.
They literally explain why joker's sinful shell is immune to Ger's Rtz.
joker is acausal anyways it doesnt really matter
@@Kira22558 based on a non canon game, and a game that do not have any sense. Did you play that game ?
@@kovxrri using his personas ? Yes, of course. A shame if he was not able to use them, since using abilities count as an action. Not to mention, GER ability was able to affect acasual beings.
Meanwhile joker on other hand can just puts repel physical barriers and render all Ger’s physical attacks useless.
If yugi had a fighting parter, it’s todo, literally no one else will be as good as that duo
Yuji and Todo vs Joseph and Caesar, let's get it
Unless Yuji ends ups as the reincarnation of Kars brother abd starts using the powers of perfect Kars, I think Joseph would win
hydrogen bomb vs coughing baby
To The POWER of 2.5…
We need this animated, stat.
Can you try each Jojo villian from part 1 through part 8 and see how far does each villain go in Jjk like dio brando part 1 against all of Jjk then Kars than DIO than kira and if they have power ups like for example DIO or kira gets awakening then you can also do awakening if they loose or wanna see what happens if they would fight with awaken or not awaken and idk abt kira making it that long but oh well
Yuji and todo are a literal unstoppable duo
A little bit off topic, but I still can’t get over how Nobara Kugisaki died. She was my favorite character in JJK.
Ohhhh you poor anime only
She’s still alive? Thank god.
How about Jonathan vs Toji? Both are essentially powerhouses who are experets at using weapons with Jonathan just any weapon around even using flowers
Honestly it's super close besides jjba characters being sub-relative to mftl+, which there are jjk ftl scales, but it's unclear if those are aim dodging or just for looks
Im 99% sure its just for looks, cause the best on page feat is lightning dodging, but only partially because they never actually did a full-body dodge
jjk is at best hyper
@arkkon2740 that was I think hakari vs kashimo I think but that was 100% aim dodging
@IrumaA-y8j gojo definitely isn't hyper at most he probably around sub relative-relative witch is around 20%-99% the speed of light due to him pulling off being so fast with blue it was making hundreds of him at once
@imthethundergod69 thats not a speed feat for gojo, its literally a reaction feat at best since he could use it so often in such quick succession
Actual speed feats involve just moving that fast, this is equivalent to saying you're faster than a horse in full sprint because you own a car
We all know it ain't a JJK fight if they ain't jumping their enemies
Ok but the thing is
Doed joseph has hermit purple? If yes than yuji is just done
Let me explain
The vines as shown is the dio fight are capable of holding the weight of joseph and swing him arround spider man style
That implies that 1 josephs bare strengh is insane because he was doing that with one hand without hamon
And 2 the vines can sustain insane amounts of strain and force
So joseph could put the vines inside yujis head and just crush his brain
We could get a yuji and todo vs kars?
Joseph will probably adapt to yuji’s blaclflash. Jonathan joestar will most likely be the one to kill yuji
I'd like to see Yuji and Todo vs high Dio
people need to understand GOJO IS STILL THE STRONGEST SORCERER EVEN SUKUNA NEEDED TO CHEAT TO BEAT HIM SUKUNA IN BASE HAD NO WAY TO BEAT GOJO YUJI STILL ISN'T NEARLY AS STRONG THEY HAD TO JUMP SUKUNA AND ONLY WON BECAUSE GOJO DESTROYED SOME OF SUKUNA'S STRONGEST TECHNIQUES
joseph tanked a sunlight overdrive from kars whos hamon was >1000x the power of the sun and had minor injuries so does that make his durability solar level+ ? ToT
Why do we calc someone as defeating another’s level. Hacks aren’t considered for example Hamon vs Vampire undead is a huge buff. Like an elemental weakness. This bypasses all safeguards and defenses eroding the undead. Does it affect living tissue the same way? Using a weakness isn’t the same as possessing comparable strength stats. Unreliable at best.
2:56 do you mean to the power of 2.5
It can't be 2.5
Yes
yuji and todo vs josuke and okyuasu
No while Jonathan ciuld be argued to be stronger Yujj has dealt with a wider variety of threats.
Not to mention yuji can heal himself and his soul punches attack the soul.
So no
Joseph could outsmart yuji but yuji is to durable ahd would likely beat his ass the moment joselg thinks hes down.
Jonathan can heal himself with hamon as long as he breathes. And Hamon can just directly shut off his brain, no soul attacks needed. Not that yuji would be able to even land a attack before he gets speed blitzed into oblivion.
@@nicolasleal5644 these jjk mf are so dumb
yuji literally cannot land a single hit. they're mftl+, he's hypersonic at best. by the time he blinks, they would've punched 10m times over
Yes😊
yes they do
Black flash amplifies the attack to the power of 2.5
That just doesn't make sense if so yuji would have killed sukuna when he hit sukuna with 8 black flashes
@velocirex3984 it was literally stated in the manga on introduction on chapter 48
@velocirex3984 also sukuna is just that good
@@Theo-kapagioridis no you don't understand let's say sukuna punches at 1m pounds of force let's say yuji punches at 1k. 1k to the power of 2.5 is 36m and if you want to go further than that gojo let's say punches at 1m too that's 1.E15 the planet would divide itself from that punch
@@Theo-kapagioridis don't act like it wasn't stated that maki was going mach 3 but when she dodged a bullet she would be going like mach 25
The real question is how each will respond to Todo's question.
(On an unrelated note I would love to se todo and Joesph interact)
First I think
Simple Answer: Yes
👀 Joker VS Giorno
Been done.
@ Ahhhh
@ When?
Jojo's stomp
Honestly Hamon could be a cursed technique.
More like blessed technique since it mimics the sun and is the energy of life. It’s not generated by brewing negative emotions but by controlled breathing (which kinda needs a hopeful attitude to be maintained, or else you might hyperventilate), so I feel like they’re kind of opposites
@@geschnitztekiste4111 This mf spittin'
@@geschnitztekiste4111 Yeah, I was thinking that maybe it would be more equivalent to RCT and shut down some of Yuji's stuff, because of how cursed energy reacts to positive energy (like RCT energy)
Powerscaling really doesn't make sense, was hoping for a fun video not some mental gymnastics and flawed logic.
They certainly have the speed to blitz him and Hamon can negate durability so I say they could mid to high diff.
I genuinely wanna know where this narrative of "hamon negates durability" comes from bcs i watched all 6 parts of JJBA and i really didn't see it at all.
Can Yuji hit a stand?
Young Joseph solos JJK
What about Tanjiro vs Jonathan
To be fair I think Jonathan won because he has a better six pack 😎
Yuji vs giorno and johnny
Giorno with Base golden experience or GER?
JOHNNY? What point? Before he gets tusk act 3 or Before he gets tusk act 2?
any version solos kid
@@Kira22558 well make it a fair battle for yuji and give him a battle against GER and tusk act 4
@@MavsCC unfair.
@@Kira22558 alright he can have todo
Please bring back the fanmade stands of the week series😭🤧
Nykler boms vs a 15yere old
early gang
👇
Zoom punch solos
my glorious king joseph claps plot armor boy
For clarification: the pillarmen are WAY WAY WAY stronger than jojo, but he still beat them with intelligence hamon and adaptation: joseph should AT LEAST be SOMEWHAT relative in strength to yuji, where he can dodge and trade blows, factoring in that joseph can fight at light speed or higher (yuji is mach 8 compareed to light being 874030) he could definitely get really good hits in (even if you were to factor in kashigoats electromagnetic shenanigans (like 90% the speed of light) joseph was easily reacting to space ripper stingy eyes, which are light speed (i think) which SHOULD put him at least at 2x ftl, massively highballed yuji vs a lowballed joseph in speed isnt even close
Joseph is NOWHERE near light speed at all.
however he still could beats yujiro via targeting yuji's brain with hamon.
@@Kira22558 Joseph is ftl jjk îs hyper sonic lol
First of all, Joeseph is not remotely near ftl speeds, as space ripper stingy eyes is not light, and is in fact just eye fluid that is shot out incredibly fast. On top of that he doesn't even react to them, he aim dodges and makes predictions as to where Straizo will shoot. He does reflect one by predicting where Straizo will aim for, and the other one actually hits him, and if he is anywhere NEAR ftl stopping both should be a breeze. Please do tell me how he is lightspeed otherwise, and how that doesn't directly contradict with other things that happen and are stated by Joeseph himself and/or people better at hamon and strength in general like Lisa Lisa.
@@Gingerbread_Man55 alr he doesn't get ftl by stingy eyes but from being comparable to did who is ftl due to being as strong as star platinum which has done ftl feats and being better in Hamon oddest debunk it
@@tenshadowsnotbumgumi So you're telling me that if he has to aim dodge and can only get 1 of 2 projectiles not even REMOTELY close to light speed, he is still light speed? Like that is in direct contradiction with whatever scaling chain you want to go down. The sun calc is also bull imo too because the entire point of the hanged man fight is that the hanged man moves around at light speed when going between mirrors, so they can't hit him unless there's only 1 thing for him to go to, so they can then just predict and cut right there. That ENTIRE fight just disproves that chariot can perceive and move at light speeds, he can't even catch a singular spec without forcing it to go on a specific path he already knows. So its my thought that since that sun, while fairly realistic, isn't shooting out true light speed flair attacks because again, they couldn't get anywhere near lightspeed before, and they haven't grown an insane amount since.
jonathan can wash the verse solo, bro
did you watch the video
Frist
This powerscaling nerd terms like 'small town level' etc is so out of place for this channel. only noticed kaleb start saying it in the past year or so
One soul cleave and bro is done for😂😭
Bro did you even watch jojo?
@Wholikestoarguepeople the only powerful characters in jojo are the ones that deal with concepts, most characters in jojo are barely small town level🤣
Qtaro solos jjk
I think Joseph alone could beat Yuji because he found a way to stop an unkillable, multi-powered, hamon boosted, adapting, faster than the speed of light, transforming, buff guy
And he admitted it was pure luck
I would actually say Jonathan joestar would also win, in the final episode of part one, we see Jonathan use the last of his Hamon to both control brain function of a Zombie and makes it move to the ships paddle screw shaft, which made the ship explode, he came up with this plan while he couldn't breathe and randomly on his wedding day, Jonathan's a quick thinker we just didn't see enough of him and what he meant to do with his Hamon originally was to destroyer the zombie but it wasn't enough , so he came up with that plan as soon as his Hamon came out.
I think yuji would lock in against Joseph and pull out a black flash or two then finish him off with a domain. Before Joseph can pull out a plan to win.
cope Joseph claps
@IrumaA-y8j it's not coping in pretty much every important fight or fight that pushed yuji he's always locked in an pulled of a BF. So it would be no different here
Actually, Black Flash isn't a multiplyer, it's to the power(exponent).
If you Black Flash and you intended to hit them with a power of 10, the power would be 316.227766017.
A Black Flash is only a 2.5x multiplier, it is impossible to hit someone with a black flash with the power of 10.
"Black Flash is a distortion in space that occurs when cursed energy is applied within 0.000001 seconds of a physical hit. When a sorcerer is able to achieve this, their cursed energy flashes black, and the destructive power of their strike is equal to a normal hit to the power of 2.5."
@@YugiInSchool"to the power of 2.5" brother that means an exponent. And he's saying your base strike if related as a number for strength was 10 then that put to the power of 2.5 would be 316 ish, he's right. And Gege has clarified it before
@@Boppin. it got debunked
Sorry but like Yuji no diffs Jonathan and Joseph. Its like not even a fair match 😭
Joseph outsmarts pillarmen like its no problem who would most definitely kill Yuji, Jonathan scales to Tarkus who is really fucking strong
Jonathan alone slams Yuji, Jonathan is one of the most physically strongest in his verse he is able to scale to a stand, Yuji gets the Harmon barrage and gets slammed and goes to sleep😂
cry when Jonathan js starts walking through jjk like nun
This is crap
Hands only no black flash no nothing gets dropped. 6’5 giants vs 5’10 kid. Yuji gets raped by Joseph
Don’t gojo and sukuna scale above Dagon and jogo who created an island and mountain respectively
Their domains dont actually scale to their stats. You can only realistically argue that a domain that creates any physical matter is just a matter of how much cursed energy that person has. Not to mention that you'd have to argue revived toji also scales to Dagon because he broke the domain after killing him
@ yeah I would argue Toji scales to Dagon and creating something is a feat in ap if a character created a universe they’d be universal even if we’ve only seen them destroy a building before
@georgebegley1065 Theres an issue of them not actually creating much of anything, its just using energy to mimic certain elements
I wanna remind you that domains on the inside tend to be much larger than in the outside, so a good amount of this is illusionary as well, and nothing implies its anything spacial related
@ yea it does imply it’s special as gojo made a domain the size of a basketball proving they’re creating pocket dimensions not illusions. I don’t know where you are getting that from and not to mention the entire island and ocean Dagon creates can be interacted with even if it’s only energy as you say he’s still creating a mass of energy the size of an island
@@georgebegley1065 Cursed energy doesn't equal mass, and as far as we've seen nothing has any real weight, water seemingly isnt even wet either which is another thing that shows its not exactly real. That doesnt even mention how inanimate objects are almost entirely ignored unless someone's carrying it, and I highly doubt a 100% spacial ability just filters out everything but people
A domain is also a glorified barrier technique, you can easily say the individuals are being shrunk down idividually and contained in a barrier rather than being put in a pocket dimension. I wanna remind you that Sukuna doesn't need a barrier for his technique, so wheres the spacial aspect there?
Jojos would clap low diff
Jonathan could do it easily
Yuji is nowhere near as strong. After the fight with gojo, sukuna was massively weakened. Yuji only beat him after all the cumulative damage and a desperate struggle with a lot of backup
Where I can agree he isn't on somone like gojo or sukuan level and the pretty much jumped a weaken sukuna post awaken yuji was stated by sukuna and the narrator to have continuously grown in power and the 2.5 boost of the back to back black flash wasn't helping sukuna case
You really don't know how powerscaling works. This was the last straw, unsubbed
Jonhy Joestar and Giro vs Yuji pls make a video
Yuji is nowhere near as strong. After the fight with gojo, sukuna was massively weakened. Yuji only beat him after all the cumulative damage and a desperate struggle with a lot of backup