Such a large presence in this film, with such a short screen time. His acting was phenomenal. No other actor could have pulled this off. A credit to his ability and profession.
I recommend the novel. It's much more elaborate on a score of things, including the courtroom chapters which are, quite simply, a must for any serious reader. The novel is a gem.
Oh he stole it, in his final scene. One of the greatest one-scene movie steals ever, the only one that's for sure better is Baldwin in GlenGary GlenRoss
It's too bad that this scene was cut short, as Ferrer traps Bisell just after this scene ended, though E.G. Marshall came back with a good response, he was almost comparing apples and oranges in that an aircraft pilot is in the air for a limited amount of time, whereas a ships Captain is with his crew 24/7 and can be for years.
In Jose Ferrer's performance here, I see a lot of what his son Miguel used as Owen Granger in "NCIS Los Angeles." I haven' t seen The Caine Mutiny in many years and it's wonderful to see it now after so many years of being a fan of NCIS-LA and be able to make the comparison!
When José Ferrer was artistic director at The Coconut Grove Playhouse he sat alone in the back row and watched his son, Miguel, fill in for Terence Knox as Teddy in “When You Comin' Back, Red Ryder?” after Knox had suffered a broken arm(if my memory serves me correctly). I believe Miguel also directed the play. I congratulated the senior Mr. Ferrer as I was exiting the theater and he replied mellifluously “Thank you.”
If I had never served in the U. S. NAVY, I couldn't attest to the simple fact that I encountered more than one C. O. who had a sort of "sickly mind".......
I'm afraid that the Navy encourages paranoia and insecurity as a result of its over-emphasis on compliance with trivial administrative details, its obsessive compulsion for zero discrepancies, etc. Ive been in the work force for over 40 years. I started in the US Navy at age 18 and spent the next 12 years as either an active duty service member or a reservist. The Navy was the only place I knew where people would literally lose their shit and be reduced to stark-raving lunatics over something as absurdly innocuous as a misplaced maintenance form. It was also the only place I ever knew where such indecorous unprofessionalism was tolerated because the offender held a higher rank than the victim. Honestly, while I love my country, you couldn't pay me enough money to serve in the military ever again.
I was a naval officer in the 80s and 90s and I had some pretty squirrelly captains. Back then at least, the navy only really screened for insanity but ignored a number of serious psychological disorders and developmental problems. We had two men on my ship who were pretty obviously autistic. One of them was ultimately discharged because he just couldn't function, but this was after he'd been all the way though basic training and an A school.
Whit Bissell as Lt. General Heywood Kirk, United States Army. Also as Senator Frederick Prentice from “Seven Days in May”, and as Chamlee the Undertaker in the scene early in “The Magnificent Seven” where Chris and Vin first meet (among many others). One of those character actors that shows up all the time in small but important roles.
When I was a kid, my parents would let me stay up late on the weekends & watch the 'Late Movie' (we're talking '50s & '60s here). I first saw WB's name on the 'credit crawls' listing cast members, & for some reason I just liked saying his name. He was in 'The Magnificent Seven', 'Hud', 'Invasion of the Body Snatchers' (the 1st one), and a host of others... great character actor, IMHO
There were a number of destroyers that went down with all hands in that hurricane from WW2 depicted in the movie. Queeg was tired and burnt out, used up and should have had shore duty. Its amazing that with that crew, that the ship made it threw the night.
I remember Mr Bissell from the Zorro episodes in which he played a pompous comandante who got caught in the pranks Ricardo Del Amo (Richard Anderson) prepared that were intended for his friend, Diego De La Vega (Guy Williams). Those episodes were among the funniest in the series, Mr Bissel was a 1-derful actor who had a knack for comedy !!!
When the trial begins we hear that the year is 1944. The calendar on the wall shows December 25th as falling on a Friday but it was actually on a Monday.
Whit’s agent pitching Time Tunnel: You play a distinguished senior command figure and you stand next to a console, and you never lose your cool when everybody else is trying to get malfunctioning advanced experimental technology to work. Your character always suggests trying to use more power. Whit, you ARE that guy.
Here's what Keefer was afraid of: the Navy was trying to close ranks around Queeg. The only thing that saved Maryk and Keith from the gallows was putting Queeg on the stand and letting his true personality come out. Greenwald would have done the same thing if he'd have had the chance.
Doctor - Have you ever had any cases previous to this one involving ship Captains? Have you ever had any sea duty? Have you ever been at sea Doctor? I submit you cannot set yourself up as an authority on command and thus you may be completely wrong about LCDR Queeg. Love the drama of the courtroom scenes. During my 31 year military career I served on three Special Court Martials.
I doubt that line of questioning would have made a difference. A better one I submit would be "with all these personality traits, would it not be possible for a crewmember to think Queeg did in fact have mental illness?" (edit for typo)
@@dodgeplow Goes to the credibility of the alleged expert and the value of his evaluations, which is later one of the bases for Greenwald's line of cross-examination of Queeg.
My Dad was career Army JAG. This was one of his favorite movies. He said they took some shortcuts in procedure for time’s sake, but they got the atmosphere exactly right. He’d passed away before Tom Cruise and Nicholson were yelling at each other in A Few Screaming Men. Know a few lawyers who also like this movie much better than AFGM, and one said you wouldn’t see that kind of exchange between an inquiring attorney and a witness on the stand in any real court, martial or civilian.
I'm reminded of the film Patton and the character of Patton threatening to have officers "skinned" for not wearing neckties or showing up with dirty leggins. But of course the film framed this "symptom" as a positive rather than a negative.
That's because Patton never let it get in the way of duty, as Queeg did when he cut the towline while distracted by a sailor's untucked shirt. And when Patton crossed the line and berated a shell-shocked soldier, it was definitely not portrayed as a positive thing.
Read Truman Capote's masterwork "In Cold Blood", showing what can happen when abused children grow up & snap under the strain. Here's the courtroom scene of "In Cold Blood", starring the great Will Geer: th-cam.com/video/ZIA3tFtTDGA/w-d-xo.html
@N Allen LOL!!….Trainwreck Trump and his circus of incompetence is headed for a landslide defeat in November...and it will be a great day for America once we get the ball rolling on removing that orange cancer from the body of America.
Jose Ferrer plays the kind of lawyer you hate until you are in trouble and then you hire him.
Well, at the end Greenwald tells his client and his buddies exactly what he thinks of him personally.
Such a large presence in this film, with such a short screen time. His acting was phenomenal. No other actor could have pulled this off. A credit to his ability and profession.
Great book - great movie with an incredible cast.
This never would have happened if
Fred MacMurray had focused on raising
his Three Sons
well played......
He did help kill his lover’s husband for a double indemnity insurance payment.
@@richardpowell1772 en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Double_Indemnity
LOL - we were just talking about Whit Bissell , the character actor. He was in The Caine Mutiny where he starred with Fred MacMurray.
Or plotting murder with Barbara Stanwyck.
Ferrer almost stole the movie from Bogart. Great film.
I recommend the novel. It's much more elaborate on a score of things, including the courtroom chapters which are, quite simply, a must for any serious reader. The novel is a gem.
He did.
Oh he stole it, in his final scene. One of the greatest one-scene movie steals ever, the only one that's for sure better is Baldwin in GlenGary GlenRoss
Almost, but Bogarts finest performance
@@steveblackburn9124 Bogarts finest performance was in the Treasure of the Sierra Madre. Best performance by any actor ever at any time. imo
That was an OSCAR performance !
It's too bad that this scene was cut short, as Ferrer traps Bisell just after this scene ended, though E.G. Marshall came back with a good response, he was almost comparing apples and oranges in that an aircraft pilot is in the air for a limited amount of time, whereas a ships Captain is with his crew 24/7 and can be for years.
The scene cuts off just before Greenwald torpedoes the psychiatrist.
Whit Bissell was on Space Station K7 with all those tribbles...
after that he was hire to be the head of Operation Tic Toc and ran The Time Tunnel.
@@bjbell52 Yes! Good catch. The Magnificent Seven, Hud, several episodes of The Rifleman... Mr. Bissell got around.
In Jose Ferrer's performance here, I see a lot of what his son Miguel used as Owen Granger in "NCIS Los Angeles." I haven' t seen The Caine Mutiny in many years and it's wonderful to see it now after so many years of being a fan of NCIS-LA and be able to make the comparison!
When José Ferrer was artistic director at The Coconut Grove Playhouse he sat alone in the back row and watched his son, Miguel, fill in for Terence Knox as Teddy in “When You Comin' Back, Red Ryder?” after Knox had suffered a broken arm(if my memory serves me correctly). I believe Miguel also directed the play. I congratulated the senior Mr. Ferrer as I was exiting the theater and he replied mellifluously “Thank you.”
If I had never served in the U. S. NAVY, I couldn't attest to the simple fact that I encountered more than one C. O. who had a sort of "sickly mind".......
I'm afraid that the Navy encourages paranoia and insecurity as a result of its over-emphasis on compliance with trivial administrative details, its obsessive compulsion for zero discrepancies, etc. Ive been in the work force for over 40 years. I started in the US Navy at age 18 and spent the next 12 years as either an active duty service member or a reservist. The Navy was the only place I knew where people would literally lose their shit and be reduced to stark-raving lunatics over something as absurdly innocuous as a misplaced maintenance form. It was also the only place I ever knew where such indecorous unprofessionalism was tolerated because the offender held a higher rank than the victim. Honestly, while I love my country, you couldn't pay me enough money to serve in the military ever again.
I spent my whole naval career around officers that were paranoid. All that separated them from L.C. Queeg were little steel balls.
I was a naval officer in the 80s and 90s and I had some pretty squirrelly captains. Back then at least, the navy only really screened for insanity but ignored a number of serious psychological disorders and developmental problems. We had two men on my ship who were pretty obviously autistic. One of them was ultimately discharged because he just couldn't function, but this was after he'd been all the way though basic training and an A school.
How did Mr. I Slipp become a naval officer sitting on the jury?
Remenber of the time tunnel, great actor
Whit Bissell as Lt. General Heywood Kirk, United States Army. Also as Senator Frederick Prentice from “Seven Days in May”, and as Chamlee the Undertaker in the scene early in “The Magnificent Seven” where Chris and Vin first meet (among many others).
One of those character actors that shows up all the time in small but important roles.
**YES**YES**YES!!**
It's THE ONE AND ONLY Whit Bissell! All other Whit Bissell's please leave the room...lol
When I was a kid, my parents would let me stay up late on the weekends & watch the 'Late Movie' (we're talking '50s & '60s here). I first saw WB's name on the 'credit crawls' listing cast members, & for some reason I just liked saying his name. He was in 'The Magnificent Seven', 'Hud', 'Invasion of the Body Snatchers' (the 1st one), and a host of others... great character actor, IMHO
@@redcaddiedaddie Star Trek, "The Trouble with Tribbles."
@@michaelwhalen5058 Missed it, I guess- thnx for the update!
Cracks me up when the shrink says paranoia is NOT a debilitating condition...REALLY?????
The captain on the court-marshal board with the mustache is Kenneth MacDonald. He played a heavy in many of The Three Stooges shorts.
There were a number of destroyers that went down with all hands in that hurricane from WW2 depicted in the movie. Queeg was tired and burnt out, used up and should have had shore duty. Its amazing that with that crew, that the ship made it threw the night.
Or through the night ;-/
@@Jleed989 you ever been at sea during a storm?
I remember Mr Bissell from the Zorro episodes in which he played a pompous comandante who got caught in the pranks Ricardo Del Amo (Richard Anderson) prepared that were intended for his friend, Diego De La Vega (Guy Williams). Those episodes were among the funniest in the series, Mr Bissel was a 1-derful actor who had a knack for comedy !!!
Bissell was everywhere back then. Movies and TV both. A reliable character actor, much like Martin Balsam who was everywhere too.
When the trial begins we hear that the year is 1944. The calendar on the wall shows December 25th as falling on a Friday but it was actually on a Monday.
Good job! Now you can produce the ice box key to the Ward Room and identify who stole the strawberries.
It seems that Captain Queeg isn't the only with a "mania for perfection"...(ROFL)
Good news Michael proctor, Whit says at 2:52 : "But that is not a disabling illness."
The 25th of December 1953 was a Friday...
Some people have too much time on their hands...
Whit’s agent pitching Time Tunnel: You play a distinguished senior command figure and you stand next to a console, and you never lose your cool when everybody else is trying to get malfunctioning advanced experimental technology to work. Your character always suggests trying to use more power. Whit, you ARE that guy.
Bissell was in time tunnel right? Is the defence lawyer EG Marshall?
I've never seen The Time Tunnel, but IMDb shows you are correct. And yes, that is E.G. Marshall.
EG Marshall is the prosecutor, the lawyer is Jose Ferrer.
whatever it is. i was right in that one of them was Marshall.
You are right on BOTH counts ! You have one xlnt memory ! Kudos !
Yes, he played the general in charge of Project Tic Toc. Whit also was in a number of The Rifleman episodes.
Scene deserves a better copy
A very young James Best . Roscoe P Coltrane
Which character did he portray?
An impressive movie with an impressive cast. We can’t make movies like this now.
Butchery. The scene between Ferrer and Bissell hadn't concluded.
I wouldn't go that far. "Lamentable editing" pretty much covers it...lol
Great scene...
And Whit Bissell did not get a credit.
Man it almost seemed like the Doctor was trying to be Queeg's attorney.
Great movie
The stage version portrays the doctor as much more adversarial. In the play he prefaces paranoid personality with "I see what you're getting at."
Here's a great example from the stage version, much different from the screenplay:
th-cam.com/video/JCpFFfxGuR4/w-d-xo.html
Whit was later in charge of the Time Tunnel. But it was always malfunctioning lol.
Brilliant
It must be tough to be named after a vacuum cleaner...lol www.bissell.com/
Love the logic.
*G e o m e t r i c*
Whit Bissell from “The Time Tunnel “ .
Here's what Keefer was afraid of: the Navy was trying to close ranks around Queeg. The only thing that saved Maryk and Keith from the gallows was putting Queeg on the stand and letting his true personality come out. Greenwald would have done the same thing if he'd have had the chance.
Begs the question -would there ever have been “A Few Good Men” -if there hadn’t been “The Caine Mutiny”?
Doctor - Have you ever had any cases previous to this one involving ship Captains? Have you ever had any sea duty? Have you ever been at sea Doctor? I submit you cannot set yourself up as an authority on command and thus you may be completely wrong about LCDR Queeg.
Love the drama of the courtroom scenes. During my 31 year military career I served on three Special Court Martials.
I doubt that line of questioning would have made a difference. A better one I submit would be "with all these personality traits, would it not be possible for a crewmember to think Queeg did in fact have mental illness?" (edit for typo)
@@dodgeplow Goes to the credibility of the alleged expert and the value of his evaluations, which is later one of the bases for Greenwald's line of cross-examination of Queeg.
"Joey, have you ever been in a Turkish prison?" Oops, wrong movie: th-cam.com/video/9E9ftsaHtWw/w-d-xo.html
@@dodgeplow : "Objection! The question calls for speculation."
My Dad was career Army JAG. This was one of his favorite movies. He said they took some shortcuts in procedure for time’s sake, but they got the atmosphere exactly right. He’d passed away before Tom Cruise and Nicholson were yelling at each other in A Few Screaming Men. Know a few lawyers who also like this movie much better than AFGM, and one said you wouldn’t see that kind of exchange between an inquiring attorney and a witness on the stand in any real court, martial or civilian.
I'm reminded of the film Patton and the character of Patton threatening to have officers "skinned" for not wearing neckties or showing up with dirty leggins. But of course the film framed this "symptom" as a positive rather than a negative.
Patton handled Ubermensch well.
That's because Patton never let it get in the way of duty, as Queeg did when he cut the towline while distracted by a sailor's untucked shirt. And when Patton crossed the line and berated a shell-shocked soldier, it was definitely not portrayed as a positive thing.
I. Slippa member of the jury
I think this sounds like me - unfavorable childhood aggravated by several adult experiences.
Read Truman Capote's masterwork "In Cold Blood", showing what can happen when abused children grow up & snap under the strain. Here's the courtroom scene of "In Cold Blood", starring the great Will Geer: th-cam.com/video/ZIA3tFtTDGA/w-d-xo.html
To quote Barney Greenwald, "What were those adult experiences?"
@@spectrum7virkeytroni Long, arduous combat duty in the NY City subway system and mutinous staff I managed at work.
Trump sounds like Queeg , minus the military service.
I was about to post that very thought. Thanks!
@N Allen Don't inject bleach!
@N Allen LOL!!….Trainwreck Trump and his circus of incompetence is headed for a landslide defeat in November...and it will be a great day for America once we get the ball rolling on removing that orange cancer from the body of America.
and Trump is just getting worse and worse and worse.
@N Allen yep, I know the truth will hurt for you when you read it in Nov...but so be it.