I like that Dutch is a lot more open to newer ideas. "Let's see where they're going with it." He doesn't just poo poo all over something because it's not old timey enough.
No but they still need an actual 6th member otherwise new viewers aren't going to get it. Hell a lot of the viewers who are currently watching won't completely get it.
@@toddkurzbard well it was Brays stable this was what was going to happen before he died it’s only right to honor Bray in that way and it plays into just how detailed Bray was.
See, this is the problem with wrestling, everyone always thinks about what happens in the ring, aew biggest problem, no storylines, just in-ring. People don’t see how this could equal anything in the ring, yet fiend did, undertaker, Kane, abyss, all monsterous characters, no one was worried about how the characters translate in the ring, they’re all wrestlers and already know how to perform there, it’s going to be about the story they tell with them that makes or breaks it
Maybe they take the less is more approach, keep everyone on their toes not knowing when or where the Wyatt 6 will show up next or who is going to be their next target (an announcer, backstage personal, GM, referee, maybe a plant in the audience) I wonder if they hired the same writer who was helping Bray before his untimely passing
Bray Wyatt and his ideas were successful because of people that enjoy the darker side of storytelling. It has a place in wrestling. The Undertaker, Kane, Abyss, Mortis, Doink The Clown (Matt Borne's version) were all examples of dark characters. It has a fan base.
I miss Bray, I liked Bray, but he is one of those people who got over with the audience by cutting promos that sounded really cool and flowery but he said absolutely nothing the audience could relate to, but it sounded interesting. That wont go very far. Audiences are simple, you need simple stories with simple stakes.
I am 100% keeping an open mind about this. I'm not very familiar with Gacy, but the rest of them were badly underutilized by the previous regime, so I am glad to see all of them getting another opportunity, and I hope it works out for them. At the end of the day, Bo knows where this thing was going. He and Bray were doing it together. He can follow Bray's vision and take it where they wanted it to go.
Bray Wyatt is a legend, one of the greatest superstars of all time. The fiend character was over, it did work. That is why Bray's death shook the WWE. Saying the fiend didn't work because nearly everyone lost to him is like saying the undertaker didn't work because most people lost to him...like seriously? Same goes for Roman Reigns and is anyone going to say he isn't over because he wins all the time? People who lost to Bray still benefited from being in the ring with him. If you are on the big stage, despite losing the match you are still over when you are in that ring with the likes of the fiend, the undertaker, Roman Reigns, The Rock, Steve Austin, John Cena, Randy Orton, Edge, Triple H, Brock Lesnar Hulk Hogan etc
Well said Dutch, not a face and not a heel... He is and the Wyatt Sicks should be Chaos in the WWE. Let them wrestle and dominate with all other talent. Neutral chaotic.
All the special effects and fake blood isn't going to cover up that eventually Bo Dallas and Eric Rowan and company have to get in the ring and work matches. Something that we all know is low mid card, at best. It's only a matter of time before a Jacob Fatu or a Bronn Breaker mows thru the entire stable.
The coming out was so good buildup with good production.. but this past Raw segment was atrocious, if they don't do something in ring soon then the whole thing is pointless
Kinda how pro wrestling has always done it successfully...Let's see, Kane was once Issac Yankem, Undertaker was "master of pain," Mean Mark Callus..The list is endless of people who once didn't draw a dime, who are repackaged with a new look/costume and became famous..
@@CollinKillian Kane is a prime example of a good buildup, and debut right into action. I don't completely discount this Wyatt 6 but they need to be going after someone instead of further buildup after an already months long buildup. Show me why they're intense, don't tell me why they're intense.
Epic debut but lets face it...all of the wrestlers as part of the "sicks" are journeymen/women. They are all good, none great and I think the in ring and promos are going to show that in future, no matter how awesome the presentation. If they maybe had some unknown who was going to be the next big thing, that would maybe make them more interesting to me. As of now they have a lot to prove.
The last RAW sort of revealed the direction for the Wyatt Sicks in the promo of Howdy asking Taylor questions. Howdy is Taylor's alter ego. Thus, the Sicks will probably be pyschos driven by pain and suffering.
I think if they're going towards the Devils Rejects vibe I got from it. Take a que from early Undertaker and Paul, namely use the lantern like the urn. Have them be transfixed by it like an idol of worship and use that as the distraction vulnerability. Best I got. Oh and keep them away from the titles outside of brief runs like Taker and Kane. Just booking yourself into a corner to get the belt off of them.
The way The Wyatt sick or six were presented, they should be all about wreaking havoc and chaos. Why should they talk or give interviews. No one should be anxious to stop them for a one on one, they should be running in the other direction!
Recently it was stated that the faction would be based more in reality instead of Supernatural or w.e so basically chaos and destruction psychos "Sick mofos"
Bray Wyatt didn't just dissapear after his LA Knight rivalry. Bray won the fued and was then starting a rivalry with Lashley but then he had health issues and was taken off TV because of that.
With respect, I think Dutch may be wrong on this one. Creative have put so so much into this new faction that I’m certain they will make sure it works and that they become huge. Whether it’s for a year or even more they will defo be over for a long time. The audience seem to be really loving this
The test really is when the fancy production and presentation ends and the wrestling starts. Because you've got to suddenly transition these characters into being wrestlers. Even before getting into whether they're dominant monsters or heels or whatever. Does Adam Pierce (I guess) know their identities? How are they getting booked in a match. How are they not suffering fines and repercussions like Drew and Bron for attacking random dudes. Different presentations, and obviously different success levels of that introduction, but they've got all the same potential issues that Retribution had in trying to actually function in storyline.
So I will say this in regards with Wyatt Sicks and it's also directed towards Dutch- You may have not understood Bray or Windham when he was doing his craft and I get where you come from as well- He was different, unique and most likely hard to work with when it came to creative but he'd always stick to his guns. Now for Wyatt Sicks, this was in the cards for Bray to create this group and the plan was for that to evolve over time and we would have gotten that sooner than later had Bray not get sick shortly after his feud with LA Knight which was what happened - He was actually in the early running with a feud with Bobby Lashley and he got sick- he got Covid and as time went on he was getting sicker he had to get fitted with a vest defibrillator- most likely needed surgery for a pacemaker and had he came back who knows where his future with the company was gonna be. and then one day he was gonna take a nap and he just so happened to not be wearing the vest, and he passed.... Now back with Wyatt Sicks it's more than likely aside from figuring out what they were gonna do with them, it was all on Taylor Rotunda as well, Bray's real life brother who plays Howdy. Mind you while you on the surface are seeing a story played out, below that there is STILL a brother who is grieving and now possibly has these high anxieties into fulfilling his brother's work and having it live up to the hype. So many factors in play that's it's almost beyond what match or feud are they gonna go with first. inevitably gonna happen but right now this is the start of a healing process for him and also likely an opportunity for everyone else involved and as I think as fans DO see past the story and the angle happening they'll understand but they'll be rewarded as well
The problem I have is it was to unrealistic, that they had blood all over the walls and looked like they had killed a bunch of people. Chad Gable looked like he took a bullet to the head.🤣 Its hard to take them seriously when they do something so fake. Am glad they are letting Bo honor his brother like this, but they didn't need to add all that.
@togosasquatch1920 I mean they DID say massacre lol to which the extent they did it was surprising but I won't lie I did find it funny to which the immediate response was Chad Gable was shot in the head because I didn't even think that- It's hysterical in which the extremes fans take it but we'll have to see where it goes next
i like Bliss, but Strowman needs to be apart of this, its just makes more sense, especially if Eric is there, carry on the legacy, and the destruction would be incredible. Bray was over because he was so good on the Mic and could bring you down a story trail, he was supposed to be the next supernatural like Taker.from the 90s of papa shango to Taker, the original edition of Mankind and Kane, even the Boogey Man, theres always been a dark force
I hope they don't have the 'no sell' gimmick TOO much. I understand they're gonna be stronger then normal but, how the Fiend wrestled was a turn off for me. Especially when there is a gang of em, I'm confused on how they're gonna book em. Although I'm sure they have it mapped out by now or they wouldn't have put em on tv....
It was fantastic with Finn because it was his first match as the fiend and he was pretty much showing off and ppl were inthralled with it at the time. but when he started doing it to main eventer s, that’s when it killed the gimmick
Nikki Storm aka Cross is a great in ring wrestler, her indie stuff really showed how good she is and she has been watered down even since NXT days. Hope something good comes out of this for her.
I think the Wyatt Sick6 and Howdy could be mega stars. Just look at the numbers on the youtube channel. The Wyatt stuff has wayyyy more views than anything else.
Wyatt Sicks need Undertaker as their manager with an urn that presumably has BW ashes. The Sicks could draw power from it. When Undertaker not around the Sicks could suck, cause no power to draw from.
It makes no sense and it takes away from the realistic sports type presentation that's involved with 90% of the show... supernatural bs, the bravest cameraman in the history of any production crew ever, people is animal masks who control the lights and sound systems and who can nearly murder wrestlers without anyone noticing or intervening
The reason Taker worked was that he wasn't just a spooky gimmick, he could actually go in the ring with pretty much anyone. Bray was always a tryhard wannabe and once that bell rung he looked like shit. I expect the wyatt sux to be more of the same.
I have a feeling Chad Gable is going to temporarily turn back face. The traumatic head wound he suffered from the Wyatt's will give him something akin to amnesia, and Ottis will want to give his friend Chad the benefit of the doubt. All of this would culminate into Gable being a master manipulator heel, producing the ultimate nuclear heat, as he had been playing us the whole time.
This is a bad booking though, my biggest critic bout Wyatt Stuff was how it drains the momentum of other wrestlers, this gimmick is a vortex for characters of other wrestlers. His stuff never leads anywhere. They have the momentum but I don't they can keep em.
the lack of kayfabe makes it really hard to be behind this one, immediately following the debut with a group pic from Whataburger?? especially 'killing' Chad Gable?? hope for the best, but not holding my breath
It doesn't have me thinking I'm watching a wrestling show when they are on. This is a Hollywood takeover. 5 years from now the product won't be recognizable.
They didn’t kill Chad Gable, they just ambushed and knocked him out. People on the internet freaked out and were saying they killed him. It’s so stupid. Why would wwe push a murder angle?
❤😊😮. The Wyatt Sicks6 is a tribute to bray. Bray is the six guy . Bliss is the Six member of The Wyatt 6. And Great Video Dudes😊❤. This was Cinema in WWE. Rip to the legend Bray Wyatt. Howdy has the hurt glove and to pay tribute to bray too. She's not coming until later down the road at Summerslam ple. NB: The WS6: Nikki; Did you meet my new family yet? • 00. It's a Random local talent guy WWE hired and same with the guy with big blood splattered. Next to Eric: was Looks like Gunther or Ludwig and melo or it looks like theme I guess. porcelain doll mask for Nikki cross. The Watt Sick6
The lantern is 6th member, will be a source of power, probably changing over time, we'll probably see the Bray Head lantern return, maybe a Fiend Head lantern. His spirit has brought the rest of the "family" together.
This is gonna be horrible.. it's about time they do something with nikki cross and dexter but this not it.. I'll be changing the channel after the entrance like when bray was alive
Yo man I am looking to buy a sweet hat from Dutch and I am more excited about getting the hat than watching wrestling without the great stories but that's just me.........
I don't know I liked it very intrigued but at same time wasn't quite blown away like most or say when the fiend debut and also other recent factions I've been very underwhelmed with the pride garbage which we all know should be the hurt business and final teastmant which they clearly don't have a clue what there doing with. Happy Dexter lumis is involved I think he's got a lot to offer.
Dutch is making no sense in this. Bray was still with the Wyatt family when Dutch left WWE. He went away after the LA Knight match because he was ill. Bray IS the 6th member.
If Sam Shaw/Dexter Lumis cant make this work then its time to cut ties. He was weird in TNA (wHaT aRe YoU dOiNg iN mY rOoM??!) and save for the story with The Way in NXT hes made zero impact - especially after his roster debut with Miz
i kinda thought the sixth member could be a reintroduction over weeks months of Liv Morgan potentially perhaps to coincide with her during a match with Rhea when she gets back to WWE, be a good twist on that how its developing possibley
Jim Cornette and Dutch Mantell are about the same age. Been in the industry about the same amount of time. Yet Cornette says the Wyatt sicks is the most horrendous, terrible, atrocious, hideous, unfathomably disgusting, worst crap in wrestling history. Dutch however, says it was pretty good. Lol.
The fuck do you mean "how could bray draw money"? There are so many people like me that literally only got back into WWE because of Bray. I would've never went back to live events and watched PPVs without bray being there for 10 years. That's literally drawing money.
There is a disconnect between the casual fans who are a lot less nit-picky and the hardcore fans who always have to look for something to complain about. As much as they hate to admit it, their opinions are irrelevant to whether or not something will get over or not.
WWE *has* been booking this right! They've been building a hero team to take on the Wyatt 6: Cody Rhodes, Sami Zayn, Rhea Ripley, Seth Rollins....and *Roman Reigns* and Final Boss!
Hear people say Bray is the 6th member in spirit. Others say Bliss will be the 6th when she returns. I've never heard anything official either way. So guess wait and see.
I want to be excited about this, BUT WWE has a habit of exploiting for profit and I want to see how this turns out whether its loyal to Bray or loyal to WWE.
@@ConcreteRoseCJ That is literally my worry. Did you know, Randy Savage never wanted to be in WWE HOF no matter how much Vince wanted him. Vince ONLY wanted Randy. Not his brother Lanny, not his father Angelo, YET Vince let the Von Erichs all in, even Chris, who was a worse performer than Lanny by a wise margin. He held them off til he died, then 4 years later Lanny ' allowed' WWE to induct him yet did not let himself be inducted. Look it all up.
I think Triple H probably had a healthy respect for Bray Wyatt. And they included him on the "forever" portion of the intro along with Triple H, Taker, Rock and people in that vein.
@@timomajereyou’re going on about something that has nothing to do with you. I’m sure bray and Bo had this all set up already and going off the documentary they made of bray, I’d trust them over your assumptions
I don't care. I cringed when they brought Bray back. I thought Howdy Doody was dumb. I was happy when the last time we saw him was Lashley clotheslining him over the top rope.
I like that Dutch is a lot more open to newer ideas. "Let's see where they're going with it." He doesn't just poo poo all over something because it's not old timey enough.
#6 is the spirit of Bray in the lantern, that spot will always be him and a way to honor him
Exactly my thoughts as well. And the lantern for them is going to be something like the Urn was for 'Taker...a source of power and inspiration.
But then the blew out the light out so maybe shouldnt have done that
@@milanphillips7492 on or off it's still a lantern, and it would not be the same if they did not blow it out
Bray is the 6th member his spirit
No but they still need an actual 6th member otherwise new viewers aren't going to get it. Hell a lot of the viewers who are currently watching won't completely get it.
If that IS the case, it must be the first wrestling stable where one of the official members is actually dead.
The lantern is bray. He's not a member
@@toddkurzbard well it was Brays stable this was what was going to happen before he died it’s only right to honor Bray in that way and it plays into just how detailed Bray was.
@@christophersconiers4979 It's just not true, It's Alexa. It's in the QR codes.
That was a pretty dope debut......i hope it translates to the ring
Yeah me too. I'm concerned on what they'll do next when the main storyline is The Bloodline and Cody Rhodes.
See, this is the problem with wrestling, everyone always thinks about what happens in the ring, aew biggest problem, no storylines, just in-ring. People don’t see how this could equal anything in the ring, yet fiend did, undertaker, Kane, abyss, all monsterous characters, no one was worried about how the characters translate in the ring, they’re all wrestlers and already know how to perform there, it’s going to be about the story they tell with them that makes or breaks it
That shit was trash! This is pro wrestling not a Stephen King show
Their debut made next Raw must-see TV, but I do wonder how they keep it up.
Cautiously optimistic
Maybe they take the less is more approach, keep everyone on their toes not knowing when or where the Wyatt 6 will show up next or who is going to be their next target (an announcer, backstage personal, GM, referee, maybe a plant in the audience)
I wonder if they hired the same writer who was helping Bray before his untimely passing
bray is the 6th member. thats why 6.
Wyatt Syxx
But he's dead
alexa Bliss
I think Sicks might be a knock on Tony Khan calling himself a sicko.
Bray’s DEAD
Bray Wyatt and his ideas were successful because of people that enjoy the darker side of storytelling. It has a place in wrestling. The Undertaker, Kane, Abyss, Mortis, Doink The Clown (Matt Borne's version) were all examples of dark characters. It has a fan base.
I don’t know how you book something like this but I’m interested in seeing what they do
Neither one is the Fiend. Bray even said the Fiend is gone. Uncle Howdy is different and so are the others
I miss Bray, I liked Bray, but he is one of those people who got over with the audience by cutting promos that sounded really cool and flowery but he said absolutely nothing the audience could relate to, but it sounded interesting.
That wont go very far. Audiences are simple, you need simple stories with simple stakes.
That's why I never could get into his character. The promos never made sense, they were just delivered well
I am 100% keeping an open mind about this. I'm not very familiar with Gacy, but the rest of them were badly underutilized by the previous regime, so I am glad to see all of them getting another opportunity, and I hope it works out for them. At the end of the day, Bo knows where this thing was going. He and Bray were doing it together. He can follow Bray's vision and take it where they wanted it to go.
Also this the booking of wyatt was bad in the past .
Gacy was great at the creepy gimmick in NXT, i think he will do fine
Gacy was great when he debuted as a liberal activist character but eventually it just turned into a generic cult gimmick
Bray Wyatt is a legend, one of the greatest superstars of all time.
The fiend character was over, it did work.
That is why Bray's death shook the WWE.
Saying the fiend didn't work because nearly everyone lost to him is like saying the undertaker didn't work because most people lost to him...like seriously?
Same goes for Roman Reigns and is anyone going to say he isn't over because he wins all the time?
People who lost to Bray still benefited from being in the ring with him.
If you are on the big stage, despite losing the match you are still over when you are in that ring with the likes of the fiend, the undertaker, Roman Reigns, The Rock, Steve Austin, John Cena, Randy Orton, Edge, Triple H, Brock Lesnar Hulk Hogan etc
Who is going to be their rival?
The entire roster
The Judgement Day
@@Amos_Huclkeberry I think that will happen next year when Rupley comes back.
@@PJ20091000 She's gone until next year?
Whoever they feel like burying.
Well said Dutch, not a face and not a heel... He is and the Wyatt Sicks should be Chaos in the WWE. Let them wrestle and dominate with all other talent. Neutral chaotic.
It’s called an anti hero
All the special effects and fake blood isn't going to cover up that eventually Bo Dallas and Eric Rowan and company have to get in the ring and work matches. Something that we all know is low mid card, at best.
It's only a matter of time before a Jacob Fatu or a Bronn Breaker mows thru the entire stable.
A bunch of people that didn’t draw, so now they’re put in costumes, and all of a sudden, they’re great tv.
Lol true
The coming out was so good buildup with good production.. but this past Raw segment was atrocious, if they don't do something in ring soon then the whole thing is pointless
@@jasonthompson9851your wrong
Kinda how pro wrestling has always done it successfully...Let's see, Kane was once Issac Yankem, Undertaker was "master of pain," Mean Mark Callus..The list is endless of people who once didn't draw a dime, who are repackaged with a new look/costume and became famous..
@@CollinKillian Kane is a prime example of a good buildup, and debut right into action. I don't completely discount this Wyatt 6 but they need to be going after someone instead of further buildup after an already months long buildup. Show me why they're intense, don't tell me why they're intense.
Epic debut but lets face it...all of the wrestlers as part of the "sicks" are journeymen/women. They are all good, none great and I think the in ring and promos are going to show that in future, no matter how awesome the presentation. If they maybe had some unknown who was going to be the next big thing, that would maybe make them more interesting to me. As of now they have a lot to prove.
All of them have a lot of talent, it's just Vince that was holding them back, I feel.
I got faith they can pull it off, well I'm hoping anyways!
"I'm the color red in a world of black and white and if you value your ability to breathe Dont get to close!"----Bray Wyatt
The last RAW sort of revealed the direction for the Wyatt Sicks in the promo of Howdy asking Taylor questions. Howdy is Taylor's alter ego. Thus, the Sicks will probably be pyschos driven by pain and suffering.
I think if they're going towards the Devils Rejects vibe I got from it.
Take a que from early Undertaker and Paul, namely use the lantern like the urn. Have them be transfixed by it like an idol of worship and use that as the distraction vulnerability.
Best I got.
Oh and keep them away from the titles outside of brief runs like Taker and Kane. Just booking yourself into a corner to get the belt off of them.
*cue
The way The Wyatt sick or six were presented, they should be all about wreaking havoc and chaos. Why should they talk or give interviews. No one should be anxious to stop them for a one on one, they should be running in the other direction!
Recently it was stated that the faction would be based more in reality instead of Supernatural or w.e so basically chaos and destruction psychos "Sick mofos"
Bray Wyatt didn't just dissapear after his LA Knight rivalry.
Bray won the fued and was then starting a rivalry with Lashley but then he had health issues and was taken off TV because of that.
This is Merica, we only speak Merican!
With respect, I think Dutch may be wrong on this one. Creative have put so so much into this new faction that I’m certain they will make sure it works and that they become huge. Whether it’s for a year or even more they will defo be over for a long time. The audience seem to be really loving this
The test really is when the fancy production and presentation ends and the wrestling starts.
Because you've got to suddenly transition these characters into being wrestlers.
Even before getting into whether they're dominant monsters or heels or whatever. Does Adam Pierce (I guess) know their identities? How are they getting booked in a match. How are they not suffering fines and repercussions like Drew and Bron for attacking random dudes.
Different presentations, and obviously different success levels of that introduction, but they've got all the same potential issues that Retribution had in trying to actually function in storyline.
So I will say this in regards with Wyatt Sicks and it's also directed towards Dutch-
You may have not understood Bray or Windham when he was doing his craft and I get where you come from as well- He was different, unique and most likely hard to work with when it came to creative but he'd always stick to his guns.
Now for Wyatt Sicks, this was in the cards for Bray to create this group and the plan was for that to evolve over time and we would have gotten that sooner than later had Bray not get sick shortly after his feud with LA Knight which was what happened - He was actually in the early running with a feud with Bobby Lashley and he got sick- he got Covid and as time went on he was getting sicker he had to get fitted with a vest defibrillator- most likely needed surgery for a pacemaker and had he came back who knows where his future with the company was gonna be. and then one day he was gonna take a nap and he just so happened to not be wearing the vest, and he passed....
Now back with Wyatt Sicks it's more than likely aside from figuring out what they were gonna do with them, it was all on Taylor Rotunda as well, Bray's real life brother who plays Howdy. Mind you while you on the surface are seeing a story played out, below that there is STILL a brother who is grieving and now possibly has these high anxieties into fulfilling his brother's work and having it live up to the hype. So many factors in play that's it's almost beyond what match or feud are they gonna go with first. inevitably gonna happen but right now this is the start of a healing process for him and also likely an opportunity for everyone else involved and as I think as fans DO see past the story and the angle happening they'll understand but they'll be rewarded as well
The problem I have is it was to unrealistic, that they had blood all over the walls and looked like they had killed a bunch of people. Chad Gable looked like he took a bullet to the head.🤣 Its hard to take them seriously when they do something so fake. Am glad they are letting Bo honor his brother like this, but they didn't need to add all that.
@togosasquatch1920 I mean they DID say massacre lol to which the extent they did it was surprising but I won't lie I did find it funny to which the immediate response was Chad Gable was shot in the head because I didn't even think that- It's hysterical in which the extremes fans take it but we'll have to see where it goes next
Anyone else watching this after hearing Jim Cornette trash it?
Bro yes😂😂😂
All hail to you my Cult brother😂he was wrong that it's good for AEW, people lapped up the debut, there's loads of people who like it
dude..me too. lol
Yup haha
Oh good idea! I'm gonna go listen to Cornette now 😂 thanks!
i like Bliss, but Strowman needs to be apart of this, its just makes more sense, especially if Eric is there, carry on the legacy, and the destruction would be incredible. Bray was over because he was so good on the Mic and could bring you down a story trail, he was supposed to be the next supernatural like Taker.from the 90s of papa shango to Taker, the original edition of Mankind and Kane, even the Boogey Man, theres always been a dark force
Vince mess all that up by not having bray end taker WrestleMania streak.
Could be seen as Bron betrayed Bray. He could be on the hitl ist
I hope they don't have the 'no sell' gimmick TOO much. I understand they're gonna be stronger then normal but, how the Fiend wrestled was a turn off for me. Especially when there is a gang of em, I'm confused on how they're gonna book em. Although I'm sure they have it mapped out by now or they wouldn't have put em on tv....
It was fantastic with Finn because it was his first match as the fiend and he was pretty much showing off and ppl were inthralled with it at the time. but when he started doing it to main eventer s, that’s when it killed the gimmick
The spelling I seen was sick6
6th member will be Bliss
Nikki Storm aka Cross is a great in ring wrestler, her indie stuff really showed how good she is and she has been watered down even since NXT days. Hope something good comes out of this for her.
Was there a point with the aka crap she was never Nikki storm in wwe so why didn't do dexter aka Sam Shaw trying to look smart or something
@seanducharme413 legit I'm so sick of these "smart fans"
Dutch booking Abyss in TNA and in Puerto Rico I’m surprised u didn’t give some examples on how to book the dark monster.
They ought to make Abyss the sixth member he would fit in real well
@@JamesBumbalough-jv8gv He is under contract. Just as a producer.
@@JamesBumbalough-jv8gv I could see possibly a rumble appearance but I think he’s said his career is done due to nagging injuries.
They should have cinematic matches
I enjoyed the way they were introduced but as of now there is not enough star power in the group, need to bring in Strowman, and Bliss for starters
I think the Wyatt Sick6 and Howdy could be mega stars. Just look at the numbers on the youtube channel.
The Wyatt stuff has wayyyy more views than anything else.
I guess it aint WWE without some paranormal gimmick.
No one complained when Undertaker did it. It can be done right and it’s far too early to judge it harshly.
This is not my thing but I will give it a shot. I just don’t know how you book this in the ring.
Wyatt Sicks need Undertaker as their manager with an urn that presumably has BW ashes.
The Sicks could draw power from it. When Undertaker not around the Sicks could suck, cause no power to draw from.
Thank God you ain't booking this.
What an Awful bunch of crap you just said
They don't need supernatural stuff, the serial killer stuff will work perfectly.
Wyatt’s words were as important as his actions.
They have to have Wyatt Sicks squash just about everyone and have Bo come out at #30 & win the RR next year.
The debut was cool but I fear the booking will be worse then the fiend eventually and this is coming from a wyatt fan
Vince ruined Fiend. This is a new era.
Otis needs to be in the Wyatt six
This has been the best thing in a while ❤ wwe needed this desperately.
Bray spoke occult language . He actually said some things I’m surprised he was aloud to say. Trust me Bray was a master
Absolutely 💯 ascended master 🙌
Uncle Howdy reminds me of the Wonder Of U stand
Found another JoJo fan who's also a wrestling fan!!
It makes no sense and it takes away from the realistic sports type presentation that's involved with 90% of the show... supernatural bs, the bravest cameraman in the history of any production crew ever, people is animal masks who control the lights and sound systems and who can nearly murder wrestlers without anyone noticing or intervening
They're not supernatural though. They're just a brutal group of psychos.
It’s the Wyatt Sick 6 not sicks.
Do they bring their own smoke machines ?
#6 is Sean Waltman
The reason Taker worked was that he wasn't just a spooky gimmick, he could actually go in the ring with pretty much anyone. Bray was always a tryhard wannabe and once that bell rung he looked like shit. I expect the wyatt sux to be more of the same.
I want that stud stable picture.
I'll never get the appeal of bootleg Rob Zombie movies in wrestling.
6th is Alexa they just showed her face last night on RAW in her little miss funhouse gimmick.
They need a big heel to make it work. Someone to talk serious trash about windham and I think it would be very uncomfortable viewing
the wyatt sicks are gonna be the heels though
Put them against Punk after he and McIntyre are done with their feud.
People gonna complain no matter what WWE does
For real, and the people who’re complaining about it being a supernatural gimmick are just ignoring that Undertaker and Kane did that for years.
I have a feeling Chad Gable is going to temporarily turn back face. The traumatic head wound he suffered from the Wyatt's will give him something akin to amnesia, and Ottis will want to give his friend Chad the benefit of the doubt. All of this would culminate into Gable being a master manipulator heel, producing the ultimate nuclear heat, as he had been playing us the whole time.
This is a bad booking though, my biggest critic bout Wyatt Stuff was how it drains the momentum of other wrestlers, this gimmick is a vortex for characters of other wrestlers. His stuff never leads anywhere. They have the momentum but I don't they can keep em.
the lack of kayfabe makes it really hard to be behind this one, immediately following the debut with a group pic from Whataburger?? especially 'killing' Chad Gable?? hope for the best, but not holding my breath
It doesn't have me thinking I'm watching a wrestling show when they are on. This is a Hollywood takeover. 5 years from now the product won't be recognizable.
They didn’t kill Chad Gable, they just ambushed and knocked him out. People on the internet freaked out and were saying they killed him. It’s so stupid. Why would wwe push a murder angle?
@@bradleygermain6288 They were doing sacrifices on raw 30 years ago
@@TheWhackyIraqi A hole in his temple implies what? The next scene it looked like a guy had his brains blown away.
@@jabroni7706
Well, yes they were.
That said, this isnt the WWF, or even the WWE 15 years ago. This is a new era of "Corporate" wrestling.
Bray represented chaos. He operated outside of the heel or face framework.
People don't buy merch if they don't like something....he was over and put butt's in seats and that's why his merch sold
You could argue the Undertaker was in-between most of his career.
It’s Alexa. Why are people even debating this?
If the spirit of Bray is in the lamp, then Uncle Howdy snuffs him out on each entrance.
❤😊😮. The Wyatt Sicks6 is a tribute to bray. Bray is the six guy . Bliss is the Six member of The Wyatt 6. And Great Video Dudes😊❤. This was Cinema in WWE. Rip to the legend
Bray Wyatt. Howdy has the hurt glove and to pay tribute to bray too. She's not coming until later down the road at Summerslam ple.
NB: The WS6: Nikki; Did you meet my new family yet?
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It's a Random local talent guy
WWE hired and same with the guy with big blood splattered.
Next to Eric: was Looks like
Gunther or Ludwig and melo or it looks like theme I guess. porcelain doll mask for Nikki cross.
The Watt Sick6
The lantern is 6th member, will be a source of power, probably changing over time, we'll probably see the Bray Head lantern return, maybe a Fiend Head lantern. His spirit has brought the rest of the "family" together.
The Lantern is basically going to be their version of Undertakers Urn.
This is gonna be horrible.. it's about time they do something with nikki cross and dexter but this not it.. I'll be changing the channel after the entrance like when bray was alive
Yo man I am looking to buy a sweet hat from Dutch and I am more excited about getting the hat than watching wrestling without the great stories but that's just me.........
I've heard he will sell you some of that back hair if you're interested. 🤪
LMAO! Entendre... I laugh at Dutch but hell I had to Google it to spell it.😆
I didn't know how to spell it either
5:45 ask one of us Dutch, or are you afraid of the dark… #Firefly4Life
There's only one was this ends and that's the way of Retribution.
Ha.
The hell did you just say?
@@Crism-y1m the truth my dude.
Ha.
I don't know I liked it very intrigued but at same time wasn't quite blown away like most or say when the fiend debut and also other recent factions I've been very underwhelmed with the pride garbage which we all know should be the hurt business and final teastmant which they clearly don't have a clue what there doing with. Happy Dexter lumis is involved I think he's got a lot to offer.
New Testament is definitely garbage. Wtf is Ellering even there. He looks like a senile retard
It's sick 6. Bray is the 6th member
WHYZIT 6?
wyatt sicks- as in bray wyatt sicks this group on wwe.
Its funny people bitch about wanting new things you get new things and its still not good enough. Let it play out and then judge it jesus
Because it's stupid trick or treat garbage
Because we want wrestling. Not some stupid cinematic matches and poorly acted horror scenes.
It's one week and there debut let it play out Jesus. People are never happy
@@jaredricci9278 let it play out into the Cherry Pepsi lights out fun house of horror match. 🙄
@hollywood21639 I love cherry Pepsi can we make it Mt dew instead. Give it a few weeks and see what occurs before passing judgement
Dutch is making no sense in this. Bray was still with the Wyatt family when Dutch left WWE.
He went away after the LA Knight match because he was ill.
Bray IS the 6th member.
Dutch mantell I'm glad he used to be with Jack swagger one more thing about him we the people "" 🇺🇲🇺🇲🦅🦅🐍🐍
Never liked Bray’s never ending push
If Sam Shaw/Dexter Lumis cant make this work then its time to cut ties. He was weird in TNA (wHaT aRe YoU dOiNg iN mY rOoM??!) and save for the story with The Way in NXT hes made zero impact - especially after his roster debut with Miz
i kinda thought the sixth member could be a reintroduction over weeks months of Liv Morgan potentially perhaps to coincide with her during a match with Rhea when she gets back to WWE, be a good twist on that how its developing possibley
Must be big critical role fans. With the Mighty Nein lol.
Bray had the greatest promos since Jake the snake and his execution of his character in the promos but I wonder if Strawman might join as a surprise
Jim Cornette and Dutch Mantell are about the same age. Been in the industry about the same amount of time. Yet Cornette says the Wyatt sicks is the most horrendous, terrible, atrocious, hideous, unfathomably disgusting, worst crap in wrestling history. Dutch however, says it was pretty good. Lol.
If handled correctly, they will print money with this group. They will be a new undertaker. Money can be printed hand over fist
lol no
June 17th has special meaning to bray, i think they it went so long was to get to that date for the reveal
In french it is : SISSSS ... Not sixxx (prononciation)
They can challenge Ric Flair to a pizza making contest.
The fuck do you mean "how could bray draw money"? There are so many people like me that literally only got back into WWE because of Bray. I would've never went back to live events and watched PPVs without bray being there for 10 years. That's literally drawing money.
I’m pretty sure his merch was on top too
There is a disconnect between the casual fans who are a lot less nit-picky and the hardcore fans who always have to look for something to complain about. As much as they hate to admit it, their opinions are irrelevant to whether or not something will get over or not.
WWE *has* been booking this right! They've been building a hero team to take on the Wyatt 6:
Cody Rhodes, Sami Zayn, Rhea Ripley, Seth Rollins....and *Roman Reigns* and Final Boss!
swerve of the century bray comes back as the sixth member, he didn't really die, it was all a work that he died.
Thats a crap joke
I know the Fiend was Bray's money. But I honestly thought his genius was on display with the swamp cult leader Bray. Just my opinion...
Hear people say Bray is the 6th member in spirit. Others say Bliss will be the 6th when she returns. I've never heard anything official either way. So guess wait and see.
" but who's the 6th man "
Zombie Chad Gable.
Where's Danhausen at?
Inside Tony's toy chest
dude is a king diamond rip off
I want to be excited about this, BUT WWE has a habit of exploiting for profit and I want to see how this turns out whether its loyal to Bray or loyal to WWE.
I mean….his brother is literally the leader
@@ConcreteRoseCJ That is literally my worry.
Did you know, Randy Savage never wanted to be in WWE HOF no matter how much Vince wanted him. Vince ONLY wanted Randy. Not his brother Lanny, not his father Angelo, YET Vince let the Von Erichs all in, even Chris, who was a worse performer than Lanny by a wise margin.
He held them off til he died, then 4 years later Lanny ' allowed' WWE to induct him yet did not let himself be inducted.
Look it all up.
I think Triple H probably had a healthy respect for Bray Wyatt. And they included him on the "forever" portion of the intro along with Triple H, Taker, Rock and people in that vein.
@@timomajereyou’re going on about something that has nothing to do with you.
I’m sure bray and Bo had this all set up already and going off the documentary they made of bray, I’d trust them over your assumptions
@@452syajowt I hope so, but we shall see in time how it pans out.
I don't care. I cringed when they brought Bray back. I thought Howdy Doody was dumb. I was happy when the last time we saw him was Lashley clotheslining him over the top rope.
Why are we calling them Wyatt 6 (sicks)? No one in WWE called them that so how do we know that's their name
It's on their merch, and there was a monitor flashing it during the segment in the gorilla position.
@@Turpitud3 they have merch already??
@@cnotes1790 Yeah, they have shirts and stuff on the website since Monday after RAW
Yes
Is that our grappa Zeb Coulter?:)
This faction isn’t going to work. It’s the WWE reclamation project.
Maybe the 'spirit' of Bray Wyatt is the 'sixth' one and commands them from the 'afterlife'!