Benzodiazepine withdrawal; a personal story of damage and hope!

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  • @leafyveins4985
    @leafyveins4985 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    Just had to come back to this video to say thank you to Dan for his videos. They really helped me get through it. I've been through alcohol withdrawal many times and benzo withdrawal was worse by a thousand miles. My nervous system was an absolute wreck and I didn't work for almost 6 months. I forced myself to walk, do yoga, and eat good food. I slept A LOT. Stayed hydrated. Watched uplofting videos. Had a lot of nightmares. It felt like torture until a few weeks in and then my mind and body started to slowly, slowly heal. I got through it and now I'm working a steady job, saving up for my own place and working on my Substance Abuse counseling degree.

    • @philosophicalfishing
      @philosophicalfishing  ปีที่แล้ว +10

      What an inspiring comment. Thank you for coming back to share your real story of healing with others. I hope many others read this and get a glimmer of light.

    • @LouellaMagtajas
      @LouellaMagtajas ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Hi leafy, did you taper? I am on ambien and amitriptyline and plan to get off. I am afraid of withdrawals.

    • @Itslorena_618
      @Itslorena_618 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      This comment gives me hope

    • @LouellaMagtajas
      @LouellaMagtajas ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Itslorena_618 are you tapering as well? how are you holding up?

    • @Itslorena_618
      @Itslorena_618 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@LouellaMagtajas no I'm in the process of wanting to start but im too scared

  • @jimbob4456
    @jimbob4456 2 ปีที่แล้ว +164

    He’s right. Unless you’ve gone through it, you cannot even fanthom the hell you go through.

    • @TheTurtleTribalNation
      @TheTurtleTribalNation 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Yup you are sure correct not even the medical establishment

    • @pyresflood
      @pyresflood ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Yep

    • @donna6165
      @donna6165 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yes, he is.

    • @hbinfinity
      @hbinfinity ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Absolutely.

    • @melissagonzalez5164
      @melissagonzalez5164 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I am going through benzo withdrawal right now. Cold turkey off klonopin! After 15 years!!😢😢

  • @BikeHikeLikeMike
    @BikeHikeLikeMike ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I stopped Bene/Xanax in 2020 on my 49th birthday... long weaning-off period I was absolutely terrified of having a seizure. Opened my eyes to the corruption of the drug industry.

    • @philosophicalfishing
      @philosophicalfishing  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Right! Unfortunately, there’s so much harm done by big pharma. They’re very powerful and could use that power to simply do more good, but it’s an industry that’s run amok and only cares about profit.

  • @MPD_dogmom
    @MPD_dogmom ปีที่แล้ว +63

    I’m dealing with this now. About two weeks in and I feel like death. This is the hardest thing I’ve ever been through and I’ve only been on this drug for less than a year. I can’t imagine someone who’s been addicted for years. God bless everyone who dealt or is dealing with it.

    • @philosophicalfishing
      @philosophicalfishing  ปีที่แล้ว +10

      It’s the hardest thing I’ve ever faced and had changed my life. We’re here to support you. 🙏🏻

    • @_blew_a_fuse_7372
      @_blew_a_fuse_7372 ปีที่แล้ว

      Gave me Ms fuck Drs

    • @donna6165
      @donna6165 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I’ll be 4 years Xanax free on 12/23. 🎉
      2mg as prescribed for 20 years for Sleep.
      It was excruciating.
      We can and we must.
      Liberation is within our reach if we are willing to do the Work.❤

    • @philosophicalfishing
      @philosophicalfishing  ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@donna6165 “we can and we must” - I think the more of us who keep sharing our successes will help those in the early phases of benzo withdrawal/damage to have hope that they can and will heal too! Thanks for sharing hope.

    • @donna6165
      @donna6165 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@philosophicalfishing Thank you. I agree; the whole harrowing “ordeal” feels ( finally) far enough in my “ rearview” to watch inspiring videos like yours.
      And find small ways to be kind here. ❤️
      It’s like we who have made it to the Other Side (finally, we become more of who we inherently are) have a moral obligation to be Helpful.
      Being helpful re-energizes our commitment as well, doesn’t it?
      Lucky Us. 🍀
      Joyful to meet you today.

  • @PeterYost
    @PeterYost ปีที่แล้ว +22

    I know exactly what you felt. I was on Valium for 20 years and was rapid detoxed at a center 3 years ago. I am still disabled. We are in a very small club that has endured torture that as you said is, "indescribable." Hope you are feeling much better.

    • @philosophicalfishing
      @philosophicalfishing  ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Only we can understand each other, my friend.

    • @racheldahliamusic
      @racheldahliamusic ปีที่แล้ว +4

      What symptoms did you get in the first year? And what do you still have now? I was on valium for 13 yrs...pretty sure my nervous system is permanently damaged??? I feel like im not attached to my body and that my soul is detached. . .

    • @neetujogi8087
      @neetujogi8087 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      ​@@racheldahliamusiccan I know ur symptoms. I disabled after cold turkey. My left hand leg doesnt work and I am on bed since 2 years. I am prescribed for 12 years and doctor said no side effects and i trusted them. Today am on bed Cant sit or stand from 2 years. Plz tell me what can I do😢

  • @GMHG777
    @GMHG777 2 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    Dude what you said about “ unless you’ve experienced it you can’t describe or understand it” … I’m 2.5 years off after 17 years of daily use of Kpin and it’s damaged my nervous system irreparably in fact I’m dying of autonomic neuropathy which I had to go through hellish withdrawal to find out I was actually terminally sick. My advice for anyone thinking about taking a benzo PLEASE DONT !!! Deal with the anxiety in other ways but stay the hell away from Benzos imo they are as dangerous or worse than opioids !! Great video man share more these need to be out there !

    • @passdedutch
      @passdedutch 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      What were your symptoms for autonomic neuropathy? I have so many symptoms fook going through withdrawal, when I stand my heart shoots to 140-150 and my rhr has gone up to 90 bpm, I also have trouble swallowing. How do I know if this if from withdrawal or I have autonomic neuropathy?

    • @GMHG777
      @GMHG777 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@passdedutch could be POTs as for symptoms extreme pain and electoral insanity small fiber neuropthay in hands and feet and lower legs, edte
      Dehydration, eyes damage and pain and distortion, spacey feeling like you aren’t in reality, weakness in legs ars and torso, terrible digestive issues gastroparesis in ability to see properly going from dark to light light to dark pupils don’t dilate properly, extreme life damaging fatigue so many more all get worse as I’ve been clean of Benzos

    • @TheTurtleTribalNation
      @TheTurtleTribalNation 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Please do some research on lions mane mushroom for your neuropathy . I love it it’s good stuff and it does work

    • @hearme4581
      @hearme4581 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Lions mane I heard will help repair nerve damage

    • @fonzarellyplay370
      @fonzarellyplay370 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@GMHG777 oh man n how long were you on them for ? How much weee you taking? Thank you

  • @kimcarter8505
    @kimcarter8505 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Thank you. I’m supporting my son while he heals from this. It helps me to understand why he is still isolated in my basement and not showering or eating much or leaving the house. 4 weeks clean after. Long taper ….It helps me to hear your journey. I have recovered from alcohol but this is not the same….

    • @philosophicalfishing
      @philosophicalfishing  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I feel for him and thank you for being so compassionate towards him. ❤️

    • @rogerzambranomusic
      @rogerzambranomusic หลายเดือนก่อน

      Sorry for being intrusive but don’t leave him alone :( I had a seizure and broke my head open on the pavement.

  • @zoosolo4779
    @zoosolo4779 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Zoo Solo
    I remember feeling as though I was being burned alive inside and out for months. I remember feeling like fire ants were stinging me all over my body. I remember my mouth and teeth burning. I remember bugs and worms crawling on and under my skin. I remember the losing the ability to talk. I remember not being able to drive anymore. I remember having psychosis. I remember not knowing who I am or where I live. I remember thinking I was being held hostage. I remember being terrified to go anywhere. I remember when I couldn't walk. I remember crushing anxiety. I remember when I could not stop pacing for 4 1/2 months 12 / 14 hours a day. I remember hugging myself crying out all night long begging for someone to help me. I remember always saying please help me. I remember crawling in the yard not knowing what was happening to me. I remember being in a different dimension than the rest of the world. I remember laying on the floor kicking my legs and arching my back as my family watched and could do nothing. I remember laying on the floor for 6 months. I remember learning to sleep in a bed again. I remember losing my job. I remember feeling forsaken. I remember feeling like I was laying in cactus all the time. I remember being submerged in the bath with only my nose out of the water trying to stop the burning. I remember nothing helps. I remember being terrified and not knowing why. I remember losing bodily functions. I remember thinking I would be this way forever. I remember wanting to die. I remember praying to die. I remember the hissing Jet airplane inside my head. I remember my feet feeling like they were being boiled in water every day. I remember not sleeping for six days. I remember being up all night every night. I remember the Doctor that told me it should only take two weeks. I remember being in agony for 9 months. I remember my scale. I remember tapering.
    I REMEMBER 60 MONTHS AGO THAT I WAS FINALLY FREE FROM 13 YRS OF BENZODIAZEPINES. I WILL FORGET ALL THAT HAS HAPPENED TO ME. I WILL NOT BE RULED BY FEAR ANYMORE. I WILL NOT BE HELD CAPTIVE BY A DOCTOR ANYMORE. I STILL SUFFER.

    • @philosophicalfishing
      @philosophicalfishing  ปีที่แล้ว +5

      😳 you are an incredibly strong person. I don’t know that I could have survived what you described. I’d love to see your story as a video someday. Wow!

    • @zoosolo4779
      @zoosolo4779 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@philosophicalfishing I'd like to say thank you but I wish it had never happened to me. I had never heard of anything like it. I tried keeping a journal but stopped when I could no longer write. Everything I've written 100% happened. I still deal with burning and head ringing that I believe is permanent brain damage other than that I am all better. Thanks for reaching out to me.

    • @deep6301
      @deep6301 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I imagine it's difficult to find a doctor who will prescribe benzo with opiates.
      Greedy I suppose. Sounds terrifying.

    • @MichelleMonaghan-g4r
      @MichelleMonaghan-g4r 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      O my god I thaut this only happen to me im so scared xx

    • @incognito595
      @incognito595 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      You are so Amazingly Eloquent. Keep Going. You can do it. We share your story. I Still don't know if there is a God. I am leaning towards No. It doesn't please me to say that. My brain tells me if there Was a God, those pills would Never have been developed. Keep believing in yourself.

  • @jackinthepulpit8976
    @jackinthepulpit8976 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    You said anyone could reach out to you in the comments. I’m going through this now. It is truly hell on earth. I did a ten day detox. Then Gabapentin for six weeks. I have been of Gabapentin for eleven days. The withdrawals are terrible. I am terrified. I feel so alone in this because know one understands. Everyone including the doctors think that this is just rebound anxiety. That’s such a scary part. Having no one believe you when you’re suffering so bad.

    • @andreaurbinajohnson7888
      @andreaurbinajohnson7888 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      you are not alone! My family doesn’t understand, they think l am crazy, because l don’t like traveling without my benzodiazepines. l am in the process of “trying to stop the Xanax, and l have been told it’s one of the hardest to stop…. it’s been a year and 1/2, still going

    • @incognito595
      @incognito595 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The reason they Deny it is if they Admit it they think you will Sue Them. THEY ALL KNOW IT'S VERY REAL. TRUST ME ON THAT. IT'S BEEN GOING ON FOR MORE THAN 60 YEARS. THEY ALL KNOW. WE WERE THE ONLY ONES WHO DIDN'T KNOW!

  • @mercuryshadow09
    @mercuryshadow09 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Weening off of Klonopin was an absolute nightmare. I got "Exploding head syndrome" and had frequent seizures. I legit thought I was gonna die.

    • @kerrycuff5390
      @kerrycuff5390 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Im so sorry you had gone though this nightmare, may i ask what all your symptoms wer/are?
      My symptoms have every single person , doctor and specialist stummped.

    • @mercuryshadow09
      @mercuryshadow09 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@kerrycuff5390 I was on a cocktail of meds at the time and it's a little hard to pin down what was caused by withdrawals. I would get this "buzzing" like brains zaps in my head and disassociation. Exploding head syndrome was the one I remember the most because it was terrifying and I was afraid to try to go to sleep, the other one I remember well was like restless leg syndrome through my whole body.

    • @mercuryshadow09
      @mercuryshadow09 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@kerrycuff5390 I call them seizures which I'm not sure is accurate as I never blacked out and fell on the floor but would do weird shit, they only ever lasted a few seconds and I wasn't totally aware that anything happened except for my family watching me stutter through a word and throw my arms up in the air.

  • @gregschreiner6227
    @gregschreiner6227 2 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    Great video brother. I'm 5 years off Klonopin. Still on the journey. Indescribable, as you know. More videos would be appreciated. I hope to see a video one day where you are 100% healed.

    • @philosophicalfishing
      @philosophicalfishing  2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Thank you Greg! Congratulations on being free from Klonopin! I intend on making many more.

    • @TheTurtleTribalNation
      @TheTurtleTribalNation 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I’m so sorry you are still on the journey . Don’t feel bad I am too . It’s been about the same time for me too . A little over five years and I had to go through perimenopause to menapause along with the benzo damage . Now I have a mass in my uterus and it may be cancerous, among other things . I blame this withdrawal the drs did to and myself for even taking this stuff and not understanding what I was getting myself into . They denied me surgery because I refused that stick up my nose too . Scared of surgery anyways and what it could do to me . They don’t understand that either . Have you ever tried medicinal mushrooms ? Like lions mane , reishi., cordycepts ? Good stuff. The lions mane was a super great thing to get Through all of that . Yup the drs messed me up , they were suppose to do my back surgery for a tumor on mg spinal cords and two herniated discs near the sciatica . I got on social for my injury . I was on Valium for years as a muscle relaxer and was told I was a drug addict when I got the new social dr and cut me off that and some opioids . I went through absolute hell and it still is only because I had to go through the “change “ at the same time. I was pretty much just left into a corner to die . I’m a lot better now in some ways . Took me a minute to get there .

    • @philosophicalfishing
      @philosophicalfishing  2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @krazysax TV From what I’ve seen, everyone’s healing journey is unique as far as timelines go. Some heal faster and some slower.

    • @allencollins6031
      @allencollins6031 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @krazysax TV everybody is different. From what I've seen average is 1 to 3. If u made it to 2 you've got the balls to see it all the way through.

    • @bonnierobinson8684
      @bonnierobinson8684 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Hang in there. Eat slot of vegetables. Also check if you have MTHFR gene, it may be in play.

  • @bobbobarino6213
    @bobbobarino6213 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    I love hearing that there is life on the other side and that life is better today than before ever taking a benzo. I am going to write this down and post it on the refrigerator. It is so crucial to hear this over and over and over again when going thru this.

    • @bobbobarino6213
      @bobbobarino6213 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Thomas-j2g6x I get it trust me I do. Your not alone I am still fighting along with you. I will be two years end of this month and I still struggle but nothing like before. I hope things get better for you and I understand. It's a journey that's for sure. Much Love Bob

  • @DK-hd9yc
    @DK-hd9yc 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Your positive content is the most helpful.

  • @TheLifeOfChristoph
    @TheLifeOfChristoph 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Thank you for this brother. I’m also a recovering Benz addict and your story is so similar to mine. I’ve currently been sober for 3 years. It’s truly amazing that I survived. Thank you for this and God Bless

  • @oliversmith7820
    @oliversmith7820 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Thanks so much.
    "It's like walking out of a fog into a different reality", that says it perfectly.

  • @kaninma7237
    @kaninma7237 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    My mom and brother tried to gaslight me as I went through protracted and powerful withdrawals and offered me no support. They, indeed, worked against me. When I got back on them to be able to keep my job, more than a year after I got off, since my symptoms were so bad, I let them know. I wanted them to know what kind of damaging, sorry assholes they were to me. Even if they pretend they did not, they know they treated me shamefully. Now I live on a different continent, and I will never live near them again. I am grateful for that.

    • @MichaelMartinez-ez6md
      @MichaelMartinez-ez6md 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Kicking this stuff while dealing with ppl kicking you while you’re down takes a lot.

  • @debkay9533
    @debkay9533 หลายเดือนก่อน

    MY HATS OFF TO YOU FOR SURVIVING THIS --YOU COULD HANDLE ANYTHING NOW🎉

  • @allencollins6031
    @allencollins6031 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    2.7 yrs. Still semi crippled. Unbelievable. Thanks for your words. Glad things got better.

    • @neetujogi8087
      @neetujogi8087 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Allen wat do u mean by semi crippled??

    • @allencollins6031
      @allencollins6031 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@neetujogi8087 the effects of the medication.

    • @MegaMarkitos99
      @MegaMarkitos99 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@neetujogi8087 benzos are like the little sister of the barbituate family, quaaludes and such but they banned them worldwide in the 60's i believe even marilyn monroe died from them thats how powerful they are, benzos almost just as much just akes a ton more to overdose, but it hijacks the central nervous system like none other, imagine alcohol reeks moderate havoc on the mind when abused and heavy-extreme on the body eventually while benzos completely obliterate the mind. like 4 in 10 people going through a taper or cold turkey need to be institutionalized or in a hospital for a while its that bad

    • @neetujogi8087
      @neetujogi8087 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@allencollins6031 am totally disabled. Bed ridden. Nerves left side of my body are damaged I can't walk sit or walk from 2 years 😢 want to die

  • @macintoshimann9892
    @macintoshimann9892 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Thanks so much for sharing your story. I had a similar issue at the beginning of benzos, they worked too well. By 1 month I was experiencing withdrawal symptoms and couldn’t get off. 7 years later a disaster at the hospital led them to detox me while I was unconscious. I got off similarly fast and holy smokes it was bad. I was talking to people that wernt real, I went into a full delrium state. About 2 weeks after detoxing something weird happened and the hallucinations came back without psychosis. I spent at least a month seeing everything as a cartoon. My muscles hurt so bad I stopped moving much. The staff at the hospital had no idea what these drugs do they told me I’d be better after 48 hours. They’re under some delusion that benzos are only addictive when used recreationally. The really good news is there is a way back, you’ll just be figuring out much of it for yourself. Thanks for reminding people that even the worst situations have a path out. One thing that’s very exciting about my experience is I have a few friends in their 20s on benzos that think getting off is possible now!

    • @philosophicalfishing
      @philosophicalfishing  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Insane that benzos can have that effect. Doctors don’t seem to understand yet how devastating they are, but we know it all too well.

  • @UserConn
    @UserConn 2 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    I agree this is an epidemic. I can’t imagine how many new customers they have now since covid.

    • @hearme4581
      @hearme4581 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      They was about to have me as one, took it for 9 days after a er visit. Thankfully I looked up this information on them and stopped I had slight withdrawals compared to what I see others go through and that was a very scary couple weeks. The intrusive thoughts are terrible and dangerous.

    • @MakingItHappenMWC
      @MakingItHappenMWC ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I can tell you. My therapists, she's not even taking on new patients. She's booked. Solid. 5 days a week. Non stop. I was lucky to get in with her. I was prob one of her last that she took in on schedule. And she did tell me it started at covid.

  • @Azzizz8888
    @Azzizz8888 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Thank goodness you are still here

  • @RedDeadSpree
    @RedDeadSpree หลายเดือนก่อน

    This sounds horrible. Im so sorry you had to go through this man...

  • @PAHinCHGO
    @PAHinCHGO ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Good for you and thanks for sharing! I've been off K for 2.5 years, after an 8 month taper (had been on for 27 years). I can't imagine being pulled off after 9 days!!! Glad you're better. You're an inspiration.

    • @philosophicalfishing
      @philosophicalfishing  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Thanks Paul! And, congratulations on your recovery and being free from the benzo prison.!

    • @omaisgee123
      @omaisgee123 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      damn, i did a rapid 7 day taper in detox and had to deal with withdrawal symptoms for a few months. thinking about it make me want to cry im glad were both free

    • @philosophicalfishing
      @philosophicalfishing  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      It’s something to be grateful for everyday when we wake up.

    • @peacelove5329
      @peacelove5329 หลายเดือนก่อน

      How are you

    • @PAHinCHGO
      @PAHinCHGO หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@peacelove5329 Doing great, thanks. How about you?

  • @marleneholik-ls9wr
    @marleneholik-ls9wr 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Yes yes yes Dan. Your videos are amazing and so are you. What an inspiration!!!

  • @lcf3335
    @lcf3335 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    The staff didn't know what to do!!!! TYPICAL !!!😰🔥

  • @omaisgee123
    @omaisgee123 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    When I think of the withdrawals I had from Klonopin, it makes me want to cry tears of joy to be free from it. Its a very ugly feeling and would rather have social anxiety for the rest of my life than go through that hellish experience again.
    P.S. recovery is very possible! It took about 60 days to feel better but i feel better than ever and can't thank god enough 🙏

    • @GMHG777
      @GMHG777 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      60 days is kids stuff not dimisnhijg what you experienced most of us have been in LTW for years, 60 days is a walk in the park again no disrespect to your level of suffering but if you’ve been on Benzos a long time or higher doses for a long time it’s usually years until you feel semi normal again if ever …

    • @omaisgee123
      @omaisgee123 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @Gas Masks & Hand Grenades I felt like 50% better at 60 days, I could at least function enough to go to work. At 12 months about 80%. I was on 5 mg Klonopin daily for about 5 years. Perhaps my age and the cold turkey helped get back to baseline quick.

    • @leighannmcgowan4859
      @leighannmcgowan4859 ปีที่แล้ว

      Glad your doing better...

    • @GMHG777
      @GMHG777 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@omaisgee123 you got crazy lucky i think based upon the experiences of most at that dose I’d say but I’m happy for you !!

    • @grimshorts4834
      @grimshorts4834 ปีที่แล้ว

      👏👏👏

  • @gymjoedude
    @gymjoedude 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Imagine the worst pain you've ever felt, then move it to your brain 100X. I was cold turkeyed of 30 years of benzo. I lost my mind. 5 years later i had little relief. Extreme claustrophobia, burning sensations, panic, 0-2 hours of sleep. Lost my mind. Death would have been better. Finally got a low dose quetiapine 12mgs 6 months ago. 95% relief. Finally. Hope my brain finally will heal.

  • @Benzo-Warrior
    @Benzo-Warrior 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Hi Dan. Great Vídeo Thank you Dan. I'm 54 years old, I've been taking benzos for 27 years now, counting on withdrawal. I've been free for 4 years. I feel better but the suffering is exhausting and intense some days. Fatigue, memory loss, akathisia, neck and lower back pain, anger, depression, etc., etc., etc. Thank you very much for the video. Does anyone know a survivor who took these drugs for more than 27 years? thanks.

  • @TexasTea777
    @TexasTea777 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Hello from Texas,
    Thank you so much for your video and for bringing us some hope and words of encouragement. I'm currently 5 years and 3 months off Valium taken for many years as prescribed; kindled several times by doctors, polydrugged as well, and still in Protracted withdrawal. I'm doing much much better overall but have been in a bad wave for the last few months due to a lot of extra stress in my work and personal life. I'm really happy I came across your video. I was needing a little dose of hope tonight as I have been feeling pretty hopeless because it seems like it's never going to end, although I do believe we are healing everyday. Sometimes it's just such a struggle to find the strength to continue pressing on. I hope you are doing well and I will keep you in my prayers for your complete healing. I'm grateful for your video. Thank you so much for sharing! ❤

    • @gregschreiner6227
      @gregschreiner6227 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Hi Tessa. I'm in a very similar position to you. 5 years off Klonopin / Valium, but only 2 years off antidepressants. What a journey. Been in huge wave / flare up since January this year brought on by stress, amongst other things. I wish you all the very best on your journey to healing.

    • @philosophicalfishing
      @philosophicalfishing  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Tessa- thank you and I’m sorry to hear your in a wave. I know that feeling and it’s very frustrating. Congratulations on being free from Valium! I think there are parts of me that may possibly always be more sensitive to stress and anxiety, but then again I’m a dreamer and I like to think, maybe not. I still hold out hope that complete healing is possible. All I know know is I’m going to keep seeking solutions and when I find them I’ll share them. Wish you the best!

    • @TexasTea777
      @TexasTea777 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@gregschreiner6227 Hi Greg, thank you for your reply. I'm so sorry to hear you are in a wave as well. I hope you get some relief soon. This is such a long excruciating journey. The duration is unfathomable. Please keep on keeping on. I know we will all heal someday and life will be amazing. I dream of that day. I will keep you in my prayers as well Greg. Many blessings.

    • @TexasTea777
      @TexasTea777 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@philosophicalfishing Thank you! I hope to see more videos and wish you the best as well. I'm wondering, have you tried acupuncture? I'm a single mom and supporting my children on my own so cannot afford to try it but there have been some promising studies on using certain acupuncture sites for benzo wd. I'll see if I can post a video with some of the information here.

    • @TexasTea777
      @TexasTea777 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@philosophicalfishing Here is the video Don Killian did on some studies in China using acupuncture for wd th-cam.com/video/D6jfvK4GLMo/w-d-xo.html

  • @melitatabora3212
    @melitatabora3212 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I so needed to hear this. Thanks so much. I'm extremely happy to see people healing. I'm at month 18 free and it has been unbearable since catching covid and maybe being revved up 3 weeks ago. I now always need a family member by my side to talk with 24/7. I feel hopeless. Please make more videos especially on all the supplements that helped you.

    • @TheTurtleTribalNation
      @TheTurtleTribalNation 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Don’t be hopeless go and research lions mane mushroom for your neuropathy. It’s helped me alot

    • @bonnierobinson8684
      @bonnierobinson8684 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      My hands and feet still burn. Use lots of ice packs helps some. Don't get involved with other drugs makes it worse. Watch your blood pressure and take medications.

    • @allencollins6031
      @allencollins6031 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@bonnierobinson8684That is brutal.

  • @charlotteselig6584
    @charlotteselig6584 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thank you for sharing Thats really good of you for helping others ❤

  • @meme1033
    @meme1033 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    thank you for this. Im not going through benzo withdrawal, but a hypersensitive reaction to SSRIs. In such a poor withdrawal state right now and have been for so long now. Got convinced it was anxiety so many times and that I need drugs, each time I took them they messed me up more. Wish I could take back the last year.

    • @philosophicalfishing
      @philosophicalfishing  ปีที่แล้ว

      I have experience with ssri withdrawals too. I took them from when I was 17-34 years old. And, I probably took every different kind. The withdrawals from them can be really hard, so I believe it! Sorry to hear you’re going through it right now.

  • @CorpseBride64
    @CorpseBride64 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thank you for your honesty & for giving others HOPE.

  • @Dji2stellar-C
    @Dji2stellar-C 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Well said buddy,.The more folk that realise this can be done the better,.I’m still in the benzo boat,.tried and failed recently to get of them,.another time/place in the future and hopefully I’ll get of them,.your story is a light in the tunnel buddy,thanks : )

  • @jennjennbrown
    @jennjennbrown ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Going through this right now and this video has helped a lot. A week down so far ❤

    • @philosophicalfishing
      @philosophicalfishing  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Awesome! Keep trucking. It’s the hardest thing I’ve ever done.

  • @priwncess
    @priwncess ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thank you, Dan. I appreciate you more than you can know right now. I am having a little nasty taste of how bad benzo WD is. I am going to binge your videos today for comfort.

    • @philosophicalfishing
      @philosophicalfishing  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you. I hope you find some comfort today. ❤️

    • @priwncess
      @priwncess ปีที่แล้ว

      @@philosophicalfishing I find you so comforting as a human being. I can sense your spirituality and soul is pure; maybe that sounds odd but your story has resonated with me. I hope you do not mind my outreach thru these comments. I may consider emailing you. I am curious to know more details about your story because I find you so compelling.

    • @philosophicalfishing
      @philosophicalfishing  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I don’t mind you reaching out at all. In fact, that’s precisely why I created this space for us all- to have a place to heal and identify with each other. 🙂

  • @Jst12341
    @Jst12341 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    As soon as I heard 13 years... my God. I'm coming off a small dose of diazepam that I took for a month right now and its quite uncomfortable, so I can't imagine what you went through. If you can survive that, you can survive anything.

    • @philosophicalfishing
      @philosophicalfishing  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      That’s exactly what my counselor in treatment said to me! So far, she’s right.

    • @Jst12341
      @Jst12341 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@philosophicalfishing So glad to hear it. Best of luck man.

    • @melissagonzalez5164
      @melissagonzalez5164 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I was forced to cold turkey off klonopin after 15 years. Currently 2 months into withdrawal. This has been the darkest time of my life. Brutal nightmare😢

    • @philosophicalfishing
      @philosophicalfishing  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @Melissa Gonzalez oh god- c/t is brutal. We’re here for you. You’re not alone. 🙏🏻

    • @melissagonzalez5164
      @melissagonzalez5164 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@philosophicalfishing yes brutal!!😢

  • @MarinSofin
    @MarinSofin ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I think the hardest part is the psychological shit. Intrusive thoughts, out of this world anxiety and debilitating depression.. I'm actually about two months out and I get much more windows as the days go by. Thanks for making these man, I appreciate you a lot.

    • @philosophicalfishing
      @philosophicalfishing  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I agree with you- the psychological part was the hardest for me too!

    • @Thisisalt5465
      @Thisisalt5465 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      How you doing now

    • @MarinSofin
      @MarinSofin 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Thisisalt5465 much better. Anxiety is non existent at this point, no bad thoughts, sound sleep. It gets better I promise.

    • @Thisisalt5465
      @Thisisalt5465 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@MarinSofin holllly mollly thanks a lot for the reply I'm 3 months off 💪

    • @MarinSofin
      @MarinSofin 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Thisisalt5465 Wow thats amazing ! Good job, keep it up. Everything gets better, youll see for yourself shortly :)

  • @joesweeney8153
    @joesweeney8153 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thank you for making this video, finally some knows the pain, I couldn't of said this better myself, your a very very brace man, take care brother

  • @crookedrain771
    @crookedrain771 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Going through this now but with antidepressants (haven’t got off yet but have to because it turned on me after being on them for 10 years) this is sooo inspiring man, I appreciate it..made me cry.. I’m actually coming off of benzos too but only been on for 3 months.. but have been on and off for a while.. dealing with a few withdrawals symptoms.. it’s rough. Dealing with a weird head sensation and restlessness all throughout my body.. it feels like hell and I can’t imagine people who are on these long term..

    • @MeghenFarley
      @MeghenFarley 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      20 years coming off clonazapam and effexor with valium. These vids give me hope

    • @MeghenFarley
      @MeghenFarley 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Made me cry too. Thank u for sharing and giving hope and I hope ya both are ok

  • @emusedone
    @emusedone ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thank you for sharing this and your honesty. I stopped cold turkey off klonopin I’d been prescribed for 10 years. 10 mg per day then 20 mg. Do NOT do this. I didn’t know, I lived in a small town out nowhere. My doctor quit, moved and one day my script wasn’t refilled and no one would fill it. I was alone in my journey and I’m thankful I made it. It was traumatic. It’s been 3 years & can’t tell my whole story yet. Don’t know if I will be able to but appreciate those who are able to. I really didn’t think I’d make it but the love I have for my family who didn’t know what I was going through (they lived elsewhere and I was ashamed to share, I felt it was my fault… ling story) the love kept me fighting my way out.
    I’m better now. There is hope and healing. Sending you continued strength and peace.

    • @philosophicalfishing
      @philosophicalfishing  ปีที่แล้ว

      Omg, that is the highest dose of K I’ve ever heard someone taking. I was taking 5-6mg daily at the end and by most standards that’s really high! But You’re a miracle to have survived having gone through cold turkey from that high of a dose. I would love to hear your story sometime if you ever feel like sharing it. Hope you’re doing well today.🙏🏻❤️

    • @emusedone
      @emusedone ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@philosophicalfishing 💜 I need to check that! I may have misspoke! Maybe it’s 2 mg! They we green pills and I ended up taking 2 per day 😖

    • @philosophicalfishing
      @philosophicalfishing  ปีที่แล้ว

      @@emusedone no worries- the main thing is you’re free now!

    • @emusedone
      @emusedone ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@philosophicalfishing Yes! I am! And it IS 1 mg. Thank you for being kind about it though. I appreciate it and thankful you shared your journey.

    • @geraldek4948
      @geraldek4948 ปีที่แล้ว

      Did you say you were on 20mg klonopin a day?

  • @5057birth
    @5057birth 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    I was put on 6 mg of Clonapin after the death of my teenage son. I realize you said you’re a apparent so I think you can imagine how horrible something like this can be when you lose a child. I was 54 at the time and now I’m 64. I was rapidly detoxed off of 5 mg of Clonapin in February… It sounds like you had a rough time to… I’ve never found anyone with the most extreme symptoms that I have. It’s hard for me to even look at the screen because I am unable to get out of bed my head is exploding 24 seven, when I stand up it feels like my head weighs 1000 pounds and aggravates the pressure I feel in my brain… I have to lay down to eat, I can’t sit up more than 15 seconds… Just too many symptoms to explain. I appreciate your hopeful message but I am losing hope because because of my age it’s even more difficult I think to come back from this nightmare. I can’t even go on support groups because I can’t use my eyes to look at any screens no TV no computers nothing it’s just like an ice pick is being driven through my eyeball straight into my brain… Extremely rough time. Thanks for your TH-cam.

    • @philosophicalfishing
      @philosophicalfishing  2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I’m so sorry to hear about your son. I can’t imagine how hard that must be. As for your symptoms, I can relate to just about all you mentioned. I wrote in my journal when I came off klonopin that my “head felt like it weighed 1,000lbs and was being electrocuted.” I also remember how nearly impossible it was to look at a screen and my eyes had a lot of trouble focusing correctly. I’m sorry to hear you’re suffering so badly right now. It’s horrendous. I still hold onto hope that we can all make huge progress but our timelines to healing are all different. ❤️

    • @bonnierobinson8684
      @bonnierobinson8684 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Hold on and get your doctors involved. Use ice packs when your feet, legs,hands are buring. I have sleep with cold packs. Eat food high in folate, that will also help with the burning your nerves are experiencing.

    • @Fireball1974
      @Fireball1974 ปีที่แล้ว

      How are you now I’m
      In the same situation now

    • @leighannmcgowan4859
      @leighannmcgowan4859 ปีที่แล้ว

      Wow so sorry your going thru this.

    • @toddbridges7430
      @toddbridges7430 ปีที่แล้ว

      I’m 62 and yeah, the whole age thing just adds another dimension. I feel like such a failure

  • @antoniok.6363
    @antoniok.6363 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you so much Dan, it gives me hope and helped me to understand what I’ve been going through…🙏🏻

    • @philosophicalfishing
      @philosophicalfishing  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I’m so glad you found it helpful. 🙏🏻

  • @pureskatesboii
    @pureskatesboii 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    So happy for you my dude. Thanks for sharing.

  • @lifeafterbenzos3860
    @lifeafterbenzos3860 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks for sharing your story brother

  • @Azzizz8888
    @Azzizz8888 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Hang in there 🙏blessings to you

  • @juniorfortune5873
    @juniorfortune5873 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I'm finally FREE off benzos, opiates, and alcohol from a 20 year addiction thanks to Kratom. Thank you Bali😃🔺👁️👁️👁️👍

    • @tongpoo8985
      @tongpoo8985 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Congrats thats amazing. Im kicking kratom right now and its like a bad flu. Been watching videos like this about coming off benzos and strong opioids. Gives me perspective and gratitude for how easy my situation is comparatively

  • @andreaurbinajohnson7888
    @andreaurbinajohnson7888 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks so much for reminding us about the dangers of these benzodiazepines , and the struggle, horror , of the withdrawal. l am struggling after 18 years, it’s slow….thanks for your advice.please make more videos

  • @JUGGERNAUT606
    @JUGGERNAUT606 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    It is so hard to believe how powerful these little pills are, so tough to go through.

  • @andreaurbinajohnson7888
    @andreaurbinajohnson7888 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    These videos help us who are listening to you! l almost died from an seizure. Decided not go to the hospital…l knew they didn’t know what they were doing, long story short, l left the hospital that day. You have to know what you are taking, so they know what you know about benzos. l have been addicted for 18 years, no easy task….

  • @httrtaylor21
    @httrtaylor21 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you so much for this video. I suffered the same struggle and life lesson.

  • @eirini98
    @eirini98 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You're so right, dude.
    I was prescribed mine, so I always knew what I was taking. When I tried to stop, I realized the mess I was in. I never formed an addiction. I don't want to take it anymore. But I have to taper and I feel like my life is over.
    Nobody understands, apart from those who have undergone what we are experiencing.

  • @ComradeZBunch
    @ComradeZBunch 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I actually started crying while watching this video man... I'm on Clonazepam myself- 8mg per day. (2) 2mg tablets upon awakening and (2) 2mg tablets before bedtime
    On top of this I am in a methadone clinic prescribed 130mg. I have absolutely no hope. None. I just want to crawl up and die. And I don't want to feel that way but I cannot help it. Congratulations on 7 years man! You're a Rockstar in my eyes.

    • @cindywilson6119
      @cindywilson6119 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Hang in there Zachery!!! You matter and are loved!! I know you don't think you can do it but you will make it! I'll have hope for the both of us!!! TAKE IT ONE DAY AT A TIME. It's the hardest thing anybody has to do!! I know from my own experience .😌 ❤

    • @philosophicalfishing
      @philosophicalfishing  2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I was taking multiple pills of suboxone per day, 5mg + of klonopin, vyvanse, lamictal, pristique, and inderal. I was also using weed, drinking alcohol, smoking, and taking any other pills and opiates I could get. It was just horrible, dark, and yes…. Hopeless. I feel for where you’re at. But, there is always hope my friend. There’s always a way out. I don’t know where, how, or when, but you are not alone.

    • @ComradeZBunch
      @ComradeZBunch 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@philosophicalfishing thank you for responding. I live in Richmond, VA and from what I can tell no rehab center will touch me, which is a huge bummer. I'm also on Lamictal, seroquel, depakote, clonidine and propranolol. I do not, however, smoke marijuana or drink alcohol. It's sort of why I feel so betrayed because EVERYTHING that I'm stuck on, I was put on by a doctor. I will continue to watch your videos!

    • @TheTurtleTribalNation
      @TheTurtleTribalNation 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      There’s hope you can do it

    • @rudyferrell
      @rudyferrell ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Zachary Bunch how old are you? I jumped off the methadone program at 170 milligrams a day, I literally thought I had died and went to hell. I was in my mid 30s. I'm 50 now and coming of suboxone, it gets MUCH MUCH worse the older you get. They say coming off of benzos is a lot worse than opiates, so if you're young get off of everything while you still can. My mother is 70 and has been on benzos and pain pills for probably 30 years. I don't tell her what her situation is because I know she wouldn't survive getting clean. I hope you're at least younger than 40. God be with you man..

  • @deant6361
    @deant6361 ปีที่แล้ว

    Same story man I feel your pain. ❤from Melbourne Australia

  • @lonnievisch6009
    @lonnievisch6009 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Good story. Thank you! There is a protocol. It’s called the Ashton manual. 10 % a month tapering. See also. Coping with waves from Jennifer Leigh! Good luck❤

  • @KlayKitchens
    @KlayKitchens ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I LIKE LISTENING TO YOU-YOU EXPLAIN IT CLEARLY!

    • @philosophicalfishing
      @philosophicalfishing  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thank you!

    • @KlayKitchens
      @KlayKitchens ปีที่แล้ว +1

      YOUR WELCOME-THE WAY YOU SPEAK IS INCREDIBLY CLEAR FOR ME-YOU DONT STUMBLE AROUND WHEN YOU SPEAK-YOU MUST BE A LONG WAY INTO YOUR RE-COVERY-YOU SPEAK WISDOM-I WOULD NEVER GO TO A PLACE FOR HELP NOW THAT IVE LESTENED TO YOU-I WILL JUST FOLLOW YOUR ADVICE AND DO MY OWN PROGRAM-YOU HAVE TRUE HEALING! IM SORRY THEY ALMOST KILLED YOU A FEW YEARS AGO WHEN THE DOCTORS TRIED THEIR EXPERTIESE ON YOU-THEY NEED TO LEARN FROM YOU NOW! 😊

    • @KlayKitchens
      @KlayKitchens ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I USED TO PLAY MUSIC BACK IN THE 90S-1994-1996- LOS ANGELES -I PLAYED QUITE A BIT WITH LOTUS WEINSTOCK-AND SOMETIMES HER DAUGHTER LILI HADEN-WOULD PLAY WITH ME-LOTUS AND LILI-LOTUS WROTE A BOOK TITLED "THE LOTUS POSITION" I THINK BACK IN 1980s-WOULD SUGGEST READING IF YOU CAN FIND IT-SHE PASSED AWAY IN 1997-BROKE MY HEART AND HER DAUGHTERS-HER DAUGHTER HAS DONE QUITE WELL-LILI HAYDEN WON A EMMY FOR HER ALBUM "OPIUM MOON" A COUPLE YEARS AGO-SHES A GREAT VIOLIN PLAYER-ANYWAY READ THE LOTUS POSITION -IF YOU CAN FIND IT-PROBABLY MAKE YOU SMILE-YOU SEEM VERY INTELLIGENT-ANYWAY THANKS FOR MAKING ME FEEL BETTER!😊

    • @KlayKitchens
      @KlayKitchens ปีที่แล้ว

      ANYWAY LOTUS WAS ENGAGED TO LENNY BRUCE BACK IN 1966-DUSTIN HOFFMAN PLAYED THE CHARACTER LENNY IN THE MOVIE LENNY-JUST LOOK UP LOTUS WEINSTOCK-AND READ UP ON HER-WE PRACTICED MUSIC TOGETHER AND I PLAYED A FEW SHOWS WITH HER WHILE SHE WOULD DO MUSIC AND COMEDY-ME AND HER WOULD WRITE SONGS TOGETHER- AND SHE ALSO CREATED COMEDY-LENNY STRUGGLED WITH HERIONE-I STRUGGLE WITH ANXIETY DEPRESSION AND SOCIAL ANXIETY SOMETIMES-HAD MORE BALLS WHEN I LIVED IN LOS ANGELES-YOU SEEM TO HAVE SOMETHING FIGURED OUT-WILL KEEP LISTENING TO YOU!😊

  • @lostangel4373
    @lostangel4373 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I've been on xanax for 22 going on 23 years. I've decided I'm coming off of them. My doctor retired. The replacement wants a slow withdrawal. At one point I was on 10 MG a day. He took me down to 8mg. From 8 he was weaning me to 4mg because of state laws. On 4mg for a long time. My doctor put me at 3.5. I've taken myself to 2mg and if I can handle it 1.5. My bp is high, my pulse rate is at warp speed. I'm exhausted. I don't sleep at night. The dreams are crazy. She doesn't know I'm self weaning. I'd like to just stop them and get the hell over. A major episode of I think I'm dying instead of tiny deaths every day. I wish I'd never seen a xanax. I'm trying very hard to kill this demon who has been my constant companion for too long. I'm tired. I exert myself I think I'm going to pass out. Wish me luck.

    • @rudyferrell
      @rudyferrell ปีที่แล้ว

      Try agmatine sulfate to get your blood pressure down. I'm taking it for opiate withdrawal and it most definitely helps. It's the only thing that stops my heart from pounding. Magnesium citrate (calm) helps me relax a little bit at night. You'll have to Google about agmatine sulfate and how it helps with addiction because there's not much about it on TH-cam. If you're like I was You'll try anything. I've tried a LOT of different things to help and this is the only thing that I've found. I wish you the best..

    • @lifewalker1212
      @lifewalker1212 ปีที่แล้ว

      All the strength in the world to you ❤. I'm 26 months off Diazepam and things are starting to get better so it is possible. Much love

    • @deep6301
      @deep6301 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      What you describe is normal. Please don't rush this.

    • @djammer
      @djammer 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@lifewalker1212how’re you now?

  • @paulmcduff1930
    @paulmcduff1930 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great video thanks for sharing your story.

  • @TraceyBaker-y5f
    @TraceyBaker-y5f 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Needed to hear this. Thank you. I am tapering but, but, it’s hell! Clonopin rx for anxiety for numerous years and holy crap… it’s torture even with taper. I feel like I have a split personality 😮!

    • @philosophicalfishing
      @philosophicalfishing  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I’m so sorry you’re going through this.

  • @j0nnyism
    @j0nnyism ปีที่แล้ว +3

    If you have shelter if you’re warm not sick and have food then you’re extremely fortunate irrespective of an other worries or concerns You may have

  • @stephaniewilliams6518
    @stephaniewilliams6518 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm glad you're doing better. I too have been off almost 9 years next August, and still have a damaged CNS. Thank you for sharing. It's definitely not a cakewalk. My belly is still huge too.

  • @thelastron
    @thelastron 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Glad you did what you needed to do!

  • @Whatnowmaria
    @Whatnowmaria ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I never knew how bad this actually is till i experienced it first hand. My partner was addicted to Xanax for so long, longer that i knew as i “thought” he stopped taking them like he told me.(i now know it’s not that easy) we went on vacation and he went thru the craziest withdrawal i have ever seen in my life! he got paranoid, confused, was hearing things not happening, was seeing things not there, thought people were going to Jill him, twitching, no sleep, stomach pains, no sleep literally. It was so scary to witness. He now is in the ICU and going to rehab. I feel bad to know people actually deal with this. I had no idea it was withdrawal at the time and i was so mad at him for ruining our trip but now i understand and wish he heals. Together or not i don’t know what the future hold but he deserves a life worth living and i always remind him that his chapter doesn’t end here.

    • @philosophicalfishing
      @philosophicalfishing  ปีที่แล้ว

      It is truly awful, and it sounds like he has gone/is going through the hell. You seem like a genuinely compassionate person though and of course, could not have known how benzos would affect him. Most people who take them also have no clue how bad the withdrawal and damage is and that’s why they’re so deviously dangerous and destructive. People are still largely unaware of their consequences.

  • @colinlavery625
    @colinlavery625 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    There is a UK protocol. Developed by a doctor who's name I can't recall. It basically requires tapering at an incredibly slow rate. I just remembered !!! Its the ASHTON method developed by a female British psychiatric doctor.

  • @davidkruse4030
    @davidkruse4030 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks for this story

  • @gunnerdetroit
    @gunnerdetroit 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    God bless you bro. Sorry you went through that. You made it. You’re a soldier

  • @georgeduanejr
    @georgeduanejr 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    53 months out from xanax CT. A terrifying hell that you cannot explain

    • @philosophicalfishing
      @philosophicalfishing  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      There are no words to describe this. Sorry you went through it too.

  • @KidKallum
    @KidKallum ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Legend. 💪🏻

    • @donna6165
      @donna6165 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yep. 💪🏻

  • @batifola3463
    @batifola3463 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks for sharing your experience with Benzos. Yes, going cold-turkey is scary and uncomfortable for the heart but it is the onlyvway that worked for me as doctor supervised tappering off on Peroxetine was not working for me either. I decided to go cold-turkey because my pharmacy told me there was no known way to get off Benzos. Then my pharmacy proceeded to erase any remainning evidence on their computer of me buying Benzos from them for over 14 years. I look forward to watching your next videos.

    • @philosophicalfishing
      @philosophicalfishing  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Cold turkey is excruciating but I’m sure long tapers are no joy either. Glad you got free!

  • @HuntsvilleFreshClothingCo
    @HuntsvilleFreshClothingCo ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I’m a 37yr old, husband and father of 2 kids. I started taking Klonopin at age 18 while living at Auburn University. I was prescribed 6mg of Klonopin, Adderall, Suboxone and Fioricet all from 1 psychiatrist. She eventually discharged me for not “adhering to the tapering schedule” for Klonopin as she had said she wanted to take me down to 2-4mg a day. I couldn’t even do that. I was in such a deep hole, I couldn’t see any way out. I eventually did taper down to around 1mg a day of Klonopin. However, my doctor told me they couldn’t increase my dose since I was prescribed Suboxone too. So, I stayed sick almost everyday. I had nausea, migraine, panic attacks, etc even while on them. It was a hell I never imagined could be possible on this earth. In May of 2022, I lost a close friend of mine in a car accident. He had also struggled with addiction. I made it my mission to clean up. I fired my Dr and started the detoxing process. I detoxed off of Klonopin for months at home. I spent months not being able to eat, having zero energy, being depressed out of my mind, having extreme tooth aches, muscle spasms, cold sweats, paranoia, fear of everything, lack of appetite, unable to sleep or relax, and an impending sense of doom amongst other things.
    After kicking Klonopin, I decided I could conquer the Suboxone. It was nowhere near as intense to withdrawal from. As of today, I have been off of all pharmaceutical drugs for over 2 months. Everyday seems to feel better than the last. I had to make an effort to talk to strangers in public in order to retrain my brain on normal speech. I still have recall issues with memory but it seems to be improving. Also, my ADD was initially unmanageable during the acute withdrawal phase but now seems to be improving the more I practice staying on task. I’m expecting a lifetime of recovery but now I’m on a mission to help others struggling with the same addictions. I never want anyone to feel as hopeless and lost as I did. It’s an indescribable amount of grief to put your body and mind through. If I weren’t for my wife, my kids, and my parents, I probably wouldn’t have had any reason to live. If you are going through it and read this, just know I love you. We have a bond that many will never have.

    • @philosophicalfishing
      @philosophicalfishing  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thank you so much for sharing your story! No doubt it will give anyone hope who reads it. You’re a bright soul and you’ll help many people! Thanks for your comment! I love hearing stories like that.

    • @lauriina85
      @lauriina85 ปีที่แล้ว

      You are so strong. I have those symptons too. I'm homebound. Third time to get of this drug, two times were too quick and went badly wrong. Now at home with Ashton manual.
      Had never been even drunk and had good active social healthy life before 2021 summer when I was prescriped a big amount of benzo after trauma and no warnings, had like 20 panic attacks a day. Was shocked when I realised that I was hooked up with this drug.
      Did you have horror mornings like you felt you die in that second and then realised that you are still stuck with this drug and then want to die even you wanted to have your life back? I have bad brain lock, like I don't understand a simple thing and become overwhelmed of any normal things and can't understand that people can do normal things and live their lives normally. I fear it is permanent damage. I have at least 7 months to taper to zero.
      And I feel everytime I wake that satan kills me and I can't live one day anymore like this. I can't see my partner and mom and other people because I tell my hell all the time to my loved ones and feel like I'm in a different reality from other people. I feel depersonalization and derealisation and disconnected from people and enviroment and my loved ones.
      I cry everyday and can't understand this torture can be from this world. I have lost all relationships (for now at least, everybody is waiting me to get better) and grief it so bad and can't function. I loved to exercise and have gad and never used benzo to that, I always used exercising, being with people etc. Have been trough many traumas and survived from that and been grateful to God from many things everyday. Now I feel I'm insane forever, have to end my life and fighting for my life every minute. Thank you if you can answer if you had any problems with brain function and horror waking ups. All the best.

    • @leighannmcgowan4859
      @leighannmcgowan4859 ปีที่แล้ว

      Wow thanks for sharing

    • @rudyferrell
      @rudyferrell ปีที่แล้ว

      How much suboxone were you taking? And for how long? I'm going through withdrawal from them now. It's so hard to rap my mind around how any other withdrawal can be worse than opiate withdrawal. How are you doing now?

    • @philosophicalfishing
      @philosophicalfishing  ปีที่แล้ว

      I was taking 16mg daily for around 9 months straight. It was bad coming off it and I detoxed from benzos and 4 other drugs simultaneously.

  • @sprinkles512
    @sprinkles512 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    i was on 2 mg of klonopin for 10 years since I was 21. My anxiety attacks started when I was 21 also. I cant believe I got out of this. I have been off of benzos for about 1 year to the day. I didnt have to go into treatment but life has been extremely hard. Ive had some really good times but Ive also had some bad experiences going out with friends and having too much social anxiety. I just cant get over myself. Hopefully my extreme anxiety goes away this year and my brain heals from having been on benzos for so long. I gotta admit though I was so much happier as a person on benzos. My friendships were stable and I could just live life. Now life is just such a struggle. Im still on anti depressants and I think those are the things that got me through recovery on my own. Thanks for sharing your story brother.

    • @philosophicalfishing
      @philosophicalfishing  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      First of all- congratulations on being free from the benzo prison. That’s the most important thing! Also, I can relate to you regarding the feeling of being happier, or somewhat better adjusted to life when on benzos. There have been a lot of anxiety and trauma issues that I’ve had to deal with that benzos just completely masked. That’s why I felt so great on them when I started taking them. They felt like the magic bullet cure! However, as time progressed and they stopped working I sank into black depression and life was so dark, it felt like all the lights were off and there was no air. Thus, benzos we’re not the end all, be all solution. Maybe, they helped preserve me long enough to find other solutions, and maybe being on benzos was all part of a larger purpose. But I know that today, even though life challenges me, I have a path that I can walk that ensures me I can meet those challenges and that I certainly don’t NEED a benzo. You’re also only 1 year off. When I was one year off I still felt like I was jumping out of my skin. I think you’ll continue to heal. 🙏🏻

    • @sprinkles512
      @sprinkles512 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@philosophicalfishing Seeing your video makes me feel really bad because I should have gone through what you had to deal with. I honestly have no idea why but when I got off them after 10+ years every single day I didnt have a hard time compared to you. I mean I started questioning myself more and doubting myself a lot after benzos but I never had the feeling of "jumping out of my skin". A few days ago was the best day of my life actually. Maybe one thing that helped me was realizing I had so much to look forward to and I could barely stand just the thought of that. Im going to be super honest with you but I did some shrooms recently and it totally changed my perspective on every single thing about being assertive and honest with the world.

    • @philosophicalfishing
      @philosophicalfishing  ปีที่แล้ว

      Please don’t ever feel for a second like you should have had any other experience other than what you had. I’m very happy for you that you didn’t go through what I did! That’s incredible and should give many people hope who may read this.
      Also, thanks for your transparency regarding your experience with plant medicine. I think psychedelics hold a lot of potential when used in the right setting for people trying to heal!

    • @mitch5222
      @mitch5222 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​​@@philosophicalfishing how can u deal with anxiety now? I have many phisical issues. Neuropathy etc ... Dont know what to do. I have nothing to live for. No family,... Do u take antidepressant?

    • @philosophicalfishing
      @philosophicalfishing  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@mitch5222 today, I take Sam-E which is a natural anti-depressant, fish oil, and vitamin D…. And that’s it. Exercise, meditation, practice present moment awareness, acceptance, letting go of what I have no control over- these are healing practices that keep me in reasonably good stead, daily.

  • @Skip224
    @Skip224 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Im a month off clonazapam i was taking 2mg in the morning, lunch and bedtime. This is miserable i wish i was dead. These videos give me that hope to keep going 😢

    • @philosophicalfishing
      @philosophicalfishing  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I’m sorry you’re going through it. It was the most miserable thing I’ve been through too.

  • @StoneyHoliday
    @StoneyHoliday ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I've been on klonopin for 15 years. And stuck at .50 mg for about 10. I recently started to tapper off because its now or never, I am never going to have the time to do it. But holy shit. Even with shaving a little off on the side, approx .5 mg per week, the cycling of different emotions and sensations has been atrocious. I have mild insomnia and right now I feel mentally exhausted. I have felt angry, sad, terrified, bored... pretty much every emotion. It's weird. But I will NOT be denied. I am tired of being a slave to this drug and no matter what happens or what I feel it will not be greater than my desire for freedom.

    • @philosophicalfishing
      @philosophicalfishing  ปีที่แล้ว

      It’s crazy how powerful these drugs are, but you’ll be so relieved when you’re free! Slow and steady my friend. I was on them for 13 years and at 5mg + klonopin per day.

  • @jackiegerspachhas4237
    @jackiegerspachhas4237 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you for this!!! It’s been 4 years and 5 months off. I’m slowly healing. Can’t go outside. Social phobia, food phobia. Can’t see my family, really bad Ocd! Had bad insomnia twice but healed from that I hope. Intestinal problem but healed from that. Weakness, maybe because I’m not eating enough. Taste problems. My bone broth tastes like I’m eating vinegar. Horrible!!! I have healed though. Nature is slow.

    • @philosophicalfishing
      @philosophicalfishing  ปีที่แล้ว

      It is often such a slow healing process. Glad to hear you’ve seen some improvements. Just keep going. Some days, that was all I could do. Thanks for sharing your comment.

  • @roddog4386
    @roddog4386 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Your a trooper god bless u

  • @michaelthau1007
    @michaelthau1007 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Recovery is definitely possible my friend. My Dr prescribed this for me for anxiety and panic attacks. I was prescribed 0.75mg of klonopin at bed for 2 years. Did a 6 month taper to get me off. Been off since February. It has left me with chronic insomnia that is debilitating. Will the insomnia ever go away? Not sure.
    I hope that you are doing ok!
    May God Bless you

    • @shawnleong3605
      @shawnleong3605 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think you should explore melatonin. It is a natural chemical that is not synthetically produced like SSRIs or benzos. They do help. :)

    • @michaelthau1007
      @michaelthau1007 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@shawnleong3605 thank you Shawn, unfortunately no success with melatonin

    • @rudyferrell
      @rudyferrell ปีที่แล้ว

      Try magnesium citrate (calm). You can get it at Walmart. It helped me. It's the only thing that helped me get any rest as a matter of fact...

    • @lifewalker1212
      @lifewalker1212 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes my friend the insomnia does go. It was around 18 months for me coming off Diazepam but I did stop it dead, wouldn't recommend that path to anyone, I had no choice.

    • @CarolinaBuenad
      @CarolinaBuenad 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Do you still have insomnia?

  • @kostyatzu1
    @kostyatzu1 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I’d love to know what supplements you’re taking. Congratulations on finally being free, finding happiness and still healing. Thank you for your video.

  • @marka8855
    @marka8855 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This really helps me, thank you.

  • @j0nnyism
    @j0nnyism ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Sounds excruciating I count myself so lucky that I’ve never had to go through that

  • @michaeljlink
    @michaeljlink 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Very helpful for me. I'm on week 10 of withdrawal torture. Nice to hear there is hope.

    • @TheTurtleTribalNation
      @TheTurtleTribalNation 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      There’s hope look into lions mane mushroom too for yourself. It helped me tremendously

    • @thesaint9276
      @thesaint9276 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I agree Lions mane helps repair your gaba receptor neurons. I'm 17 months off and still battling but it gets easier and easier.

    • @getpaid200
      @getpaid200 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I'm on day 39. Stopped cold turkey. It sucks.

    • @philosophicalfishing
      @philosophicalfishing  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Oh god, it’s unbelievable. How long were you on them?

    • @TheTurtleTribalNation
      @TheTurtleTribalNation 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@philosophicalfishing off and on for 20 years . You are going to make it

  • @Dog_Pound
    @Dog_Pound ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My man, thank you for sharing your experience. Everything you said I hate to sound like a cliché but to the T is what I’ve went through just recently and I am going through even today , so I had to start talking Xanax again so I wouldn’t die.
    just last week my entire body quit working I couldn’t walk had no ide a it Was from benzo withdrawal
    Never crossed my mind

    • @philosophicalfishing
      @philosophicalfishing  ปีที่แล้ว

      I’m sorry you’ve been going through it. I know how that feels.

  • @kellycrutchfield1414
    @kellycrutchfield1414 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You're absolutely 100% on point I've been on Xanax 2 mg for 15 years three times a day. A couple of years back I tried to come off of them, I was up for like 4 days my friend gave me five 20 mg Ambien hoping I would fall asleep and wake up without withdrawals. Well that did not happen I did not go to sleep that Ambien had nothing on withdrawal from Xanax. I don't remember it but I severed my left wrist severing my median nerve. I've got myself down to two bars a day. I've heard it's worse than coming off of heroin I don't know? Never did heroin. And I pray to God one day this little 2 mg pill will no longer control me.

    • @MikeColeWorld
      @MikeColeWorld ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Hey you should ask your doctor if they’re willing to get you on Diazepam if you haven’t already tried yet. It’s a much longer lasting Benzo making it much easier to taper from.

    • @deep6301
      @deep6301 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I would only take valium and follow the Ashton protocol. Her manual is really informative. Stay strong. NA provides free fellowship.

  • @mariavalore6682
    @mariavalore6682 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for sharing!

  • @Chunkibumpi
    @Chunkibumpi ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Needed to find this today. I'm on 2 mg of klonopin a day and 10 mg of valium. Just convinced my doctor to put me on the Ashton method, which is where you switch over from whatever benzo(s) you're on to valium. Terrified to start this process of tapering, the panic gets so unbelievably terrifying and intense. If anyone is reading this, please pray for me, I could use it.

    • @philosophicalfishing
      @philosophicalfishing  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I think I speak for all on this channel when I say “we’re here for you, Mark.” Many of us have just come out the other side and understand how difficult it can be. I’ve learned it’s good to ask for help and lean on others when I need them. I didn’t do this myself, I had loads of help!

    • @pyresflood
      @pyresflood ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Praying for you. I've been damaged from My Kpin (mis)use. I'm down to .5 MG a night. but still not sleeping. I'm here if you ever need to talk.

    • @rudyferrell
      @rudyferrell ปีที่แล้ว

      How are you doing? I hope you are o.k.

    • @Chunkibumpi
      @Chunkibumpi ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hey all. I ended up checking myself into a "slow" detox/rehab center in CA, and they got me down to 23 mg of valium of the course of the last 3 months. I hit a wall at 23 for some reason and have been basically in a living hell since February 24th. In addition to the valium I'm now also on 2400 mg gabapentin a day and am seriously considering trying out Remeron. I just don't know how to continue this taper from here with how I am currently feeling, but I desperately want to be benzo free. Thank you all so much for the thoughts and the prayers, I will return the favor. I am alone out here in CA without friends or family so seeing these messages just now touched me deeply.

    • @philosophicalfishing
      @philosophicalfishing  ปีที่แล้ว

      Hey Mark- thank you for the update. I’m glad you’re trying and fighting to get off benzos, I know it’s so hard. For me personally, gabapentin was the one thing that made going CT off klonopin just bearable enough to keep me alive. Nothing will completely alleviate the pain, unfortunately. Take it easy, take it slow. I’m sending you some serious good vibes and energy right now. ❤️🙏🏻

  • @TreasureLA99
    @TreasureLA99 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    9 days oh god I am so sorry, I had seizures from stopping Xanax. Now I’m prescribed ativan I’m worried for my future I’m only 24. Thank you for sharing I’m def a new subscriber. Also to add the reason why I don’t take other medications is because when I was on other meds it made my eyes roll up also gave me dystonia was from abilfy and latuda ( at different times ) Ativan and Prozac is the only thing I can function on right now sadly.

    • @philosophicalfishing
      @philosophicalfishing  ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi, and welcome to the channel. I started my journey with benzos in my early 20’s with Xanax too and eventually to Ativan, then klonopin. If I could go back I would have maybe told my younger self to get off the benzos sooner because it keeps digging you into a deeper hole. But, I don’t know what’s best for anyone else. Thanks for subscribing and hope to see you around! ✌🏻

  • @ladygrace2741
    @ladygrace2741 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I'm one of those people that went off both benzo's & prescribed opioids (simultaneously) cold turkey. I have my life back now, but it certainly was hell on earth. I don't recommend anyone do what I did, it was my choice as I just wanted the shit out of my system asap.

    • @getpaid200
      @getpaid200 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I did the same thing. It sucks. Day 39. Got along way to go

    • @kellyjofrey4192
      @kellyjofrey4192 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      You could have had a seizure and died

    • @philosophicalfishing
      @philosophicalfishing  ปีที่แล้ว

      You’re absolutely right! I’m lucky to even be here today.

    • @rudyferrell
      @rudyferrell ปีที่แล้ว

      It was hell for me to come off of the methadone, I wouldn't wish it on my worse enemy. I can't imagine having to come off Xanax at the same time. I do know that I would kill myself if I was still an atheist... How long have you been clean now?

    • @deep6301
      @deep6301 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      My younger brother is dead from that combo. He had to find a quack doctor to even get them. In Florida the DEA really cracked down on all the pill mills.
      Our local detox/treatment center will substitute benzodiazepine for hydroxide HCL.
      It's hit or miss. It's currently 4am so tonight it missed the mark. I know I won't die from no sleep.
      I won't go to the center because I worked there
      I am a certified addiction counselor😂

  • @GinaMFlorida
    @GinaMFlorida 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you for sharing your story. I've been taking 2mg Klonopin for 11 yrs and started a taper 4 weeks ago & holding at that dose for another month. I have seizures and on about 14 other medications.
    You give me hope that I will also make it and get off this med that made me extremely depressed and awful memory loss. It sure did take my social anxiety away and severe anxiety in general. I'm so sorry you went through what you did.
    Could you please do a video of the supplements you are taking? I've just begun and I have trouble eating.
    Thanks again and take care 😊

    • @jaclynpeters3892
      @jaclynpeters3892 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Be very careful with supplements. Benzodiazepine Information Coalition has a list of things to avoid. Get as much information as you can. The taper is important and there are definite pitfalls. Wishing you the best.

  • @Joel_Houtz
    @Joel_Houtz ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I went to rehab in 2017 for alcohol and cocaine. I was also prescribed klonopin which I had never abused. They obviously wouldn't let me take my klonopin during my stay which I thought was no big deal. My cravings for coke and alcohol subsided within a couple of weeks and didn't bother me a bit, but once I started the benzo withdrawal it didn't stop or improve one iota the entire 45 days I was there. The one drug, that I was taking as prescribed, caused my entire stay to be hell and handicapped my recovery.

    • @philosophicalfishing
      @philosophicalfishing  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Many or most people working in treatment seem clueless(including doctors) regarding the withdrawal effects of benzos. The psychiatrist who took me off Klonopin was completely ignorant. I hope that over time we can bring awareness to what’s going on with these drugs.

  • @DK-hd9yc
    @DK-hd9yc 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Depressing story with a good outcome.

  • @rosieborsellino703
    @rosieborsellino703 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you so much God bless us all always amen 🙏❤️🧠💪🌻🌞

  • @hrbob8349
    @hrbob8349 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Beautiful voice.

  • @corvettedm1
    @corvettedm1 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I went cold turkey from Klonopin which nearly killed me. I was by myself and I was scared. All of these symptoms mentioned above I experienced for a little over three years. The after effect from all this mess is a weak heart and digestive problems. At least it’s all behind me. I hope you make more videos explaining the experience.

    • @philosophicalfishing
      @philosophicalfishing  ปีที่แล้ว

      I’m so sorry you went through that all alone. That must’ve been terrifying. I always say that as long as these videos are helpful that I’ll keep making them.

  • @heatheral-hammadi3046
    @heatheral-hammadi3046 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Omg I am terrified of this! I have been on some kind of benzo for 25 years. I also take ambien. My psych dr is old and I’m sure will retire soon and I don’t think anyone will prescribe me what he is. I’m in for it!!

    • @philosophicalfishing
      @philosophicalfishing  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You’re best bet may be to taper very slowly via the Ashton method if you want to get off them.

  • @bayoubabe6698
    @bayoubabe6698 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I’ve been lowering my Clonazepam for about 1 and A half years, under my psychiatrist’s care. I’ve been taking them for about 18 years. Weaning off is the only way to do it. Two times I went into benzo withdrawal and I wanted to die. It was horrible. Thank you for sharing your story. So many people have no idea what trying to stop looks like.

    • @philosophicalfishing
      @philosophicalfishing  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      You’re an incredible person and an inspiration to what’s possible. I am always astounded by people such as you who have the strength, endurance, and perseverance to taper.

    • @bayoubabe6698
      @bayoubabe6698 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@philosophicalfishing, thank you!!

  • @tinalapoint9294
    @tinalapoint9294 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I Resent it, And hate it it's been 11 years. Weaning off 10mg of diazapam aka valium since November 18th 2022. It's April 27th and I'm exhausted and went to the hospital a few times with Benzo Belly....5mg left to taper, but I'm taking a break until September 1st.....😢😢😢😢😢

    • @deep6301
      @deep6301 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Benzo belly is a new term to me. I take diuretics to lose water weight gain. I'll have to research it.

  • @draganskoda
    @draganskoda 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Even in the Netherlands they take you off benzos in 6-9 days. I negotiated it up to 3 weeks. Fortunately I had a habit of only 1,5 years and I only felt like shit for 5 weeks. On top of that they took me cold turkey off kratom, high dose (60-100 grams a day), which caused me not to be able to sleep for the first 7 days in that clinic.

    • @philosophicalfishing
      @philosophicalfishing  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Worldwide, almost nobody in the medical profession seems to know how to safely and effectively taper someone off benzos.

  • @krishankochar3059
    @krishankochar3059 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I was on it for a short time,the withdrawals were insane I thought I was going crazy!

    • @philosophicalfishing
      @philosophicalfishing  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yeah, me too. Hope you’re doing much better.

  • @m.l.m1135
    @m.l.m1135 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Congratulations on 7 years!! Prayers for strength and healing. Did you have food sensitivity? What is your diet like ? 🙏💝

    • @philosophicalfishing
      @philosophicalfishing  2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Thank you! Yes, I had to abstain from sugar, processed foods, onions(for some reason), caffeine, dairy, desserts, anything acidic like tomatoes. The biggest thing was how badly caffeine and sugar would affect my benzo belly and nervous system so dramatically. And when I say I had to abstain, I really mean that I tried to abstain as best I could. I did not do it perfectly.

    • @m.l.m1135
      @m.l.m1135 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@philosophicalfishing thank you for your response. 47 months tomorrow off ct from 1 mg x and still struggling with symptoms and trying to figure out diet. 🙏💝

    • @rudyferrell
      @rudyferrell ปีที่แล้ว

      @Philosophical Fishing what's the deal with the onions? I use to love onions and a couple of years ago something happened and now they taste revolting. It's really weird. Were you just told not to eat them ?

    • @philosophicalfishing
      @philosophicalfishing  ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi Rudy, nobody suggested to abstain from onions, I just noticed that they would make my benzo belly and symptoms much worse whenever I ate them. I don’t know at all why, but now I can tolerate them much better.

  • @patricksullivan6670
    @patricksullivan6670 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Your a soldier buddy fair play to you👍

  • @strider1237
    @strider1237 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Your story is just like mine. Klonopin, suboxone, and adderall. I'm tapering Klon right now. Reduced by just HALF a mg and I went 35 hours without sleep. Couldn't even name all the symptoms because there were too many. I also had hallucinations (no auditory though) I'm terrified of this but I'm trying to taper more slowly.

    • @philosophicalfishing
      @philosophicalfishing  ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Yeah, klon & suboxone is a nasty combo to kick, but definitely not impossible. By most accounts, tapering by 1/2 a mg is a pretty big cut. Are you sure that wasn’t too much at once for you? I know everyone’s different and we can all tolerate various cuts, but depending on how long you’ve been on klon, that seems like it could be a lot. This is also coming from someone who came off 5mg of klon, 8mg of subs, 100mg pristique, 100mg vyvanse, and lamictal in 9 days.😂

    • @strider1237
      @strider1237 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@philosophicalfishing So I was on 4 mg Lorazepam/Ativan for 9 years. They switched me to Klonopin a year ago because they said it has a longer half-life.
      After waiting for them to start my taper I decided to do it myself but yes 5mg was far too much at once. At the most I should have gone down only .25 (which I'm currently at now) Still having some really bad days but nothing as bad as it was for sure. I'm going to hold for about 4-5 weeks and then do smaller cuts (10%) at a time.
      I've been on suboxone for 12 years (2 and 1/2 films of 8mg but a few months back reduced to a quarter film a day. Not ready to cut that one out completely because it seems to somewhat help my withdrawal other withdrawal symptoms.
      Glad to hear you made it out alive though man. I can't even imagine what you went through and it terrifies me.

    • @AkathisiaWarrior
      @AkathisiaWarrior ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Half a mg? Why aren’t you doing 10% or below cuts every 4-6 weeks?

    • @strider1237
      @strider1237 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@AkathisiaWarrior I reduced my cut dosage.