Botan Explains her Thoughts on Living with Other Holomembers
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Same with botan's choice. Having alone time most of the time is really blissful, not for everyone since there are some who prefer to have people around yet those who like being alone can entertain themselves and the peace you get is soothing while also helps you rest your mind.
In other words, being an introvert and extrovert respectively.
I also greatly enjoy going to the bathroom with the door open because my cats will demand to be in the room with me at all times.
Living with someone has advantages and misadvantages. For one, it's really great to always have people by your side to do random things and helping out, but that also pretty much means lack of privacy, and you may never have a moment for yourself when one needed.
On the other hand living by your own gives you tons of privacy and freedom to go down in your thoughs and activities. But hanging with friends goes to become a pass time that needs to be relished.
I went thrugh both when university, I couldn't stop thinking like "I really want to be alone", both later "Good. I wonder what are they doing? I wanna hang out" really bad later.
That's when you go for the difficult live nearby to you're friends.
I'm sure a lot of us can relate to that kind of introversion
Touche Botan. When you're an Introvert, it's nice to have human interactions once in a while to boost our social energy but for the most part we mainly prefer being left alone to ourselves to enjoy our own company & are comfortable doing so.
Not every introvert can put up boundaries like other Holomembers such as KanaCoco. Their dynamic worked because they understood each others' boundaries well enough and are comfortable living with each others' quirks.
I do remember faintly Botan said this.
As Okayu said about Korone, many people would want their own personal space and living alone would be the best situation to recharge.
Basically the same reason she doesn't stream JRPGs. She plays them but wants to play them in silence without distraction. Sometime we just want to play by ourselves.
Botan is my spirit animal lol I like to hang out with friends, but i need my alone time, and if i dont get my alone time i start to go a bit crazy
Man that really hits my heart..
As i understand the feeling...
Living with others tend to make u unable to do your own private hobbies/pastimes due to responsibilities and etc...
I take a week's vacation every year alone just to get away from friends and family. Afterward I feel so much better and am ready to tackle the world again.
Can't argue more with botan. Living together (family is the exception) sometimes would make our ass on pain.
As an introvert I definitely feel her, specially when you have already the experience of both, like living with your fam you get to feel what you like about it and what not, same goes when loving alone and then you can decide what fits you better if you've the possibility.
I can relate. Although I enjoy being with my family, I'm more at peace when I'm alone. I get accused of being depressed or angry, but that's not the case.
Anyone who has stayed for extended periods of time with friends knows the feel, it's definitely different from just hanging out in a sense because you get to see everything about them.
Yep thats how introvert works. We need to fucking charging with solitude then we meet peoole again.
at this point she's basically a talking feline.
_"The only true companion of all rulers is - loneliness."_
Spoken like a true introverted gamer!
I totally get what she says, i'm an introvert person so i don't mind hanging out a bit with people but i totally need to spend some time in total isolation from any social interaction to recharge my batteries, maybe 1-2 day shut in per week specifically. You can't do that if you live with someone.
Same
I'm living with a bunch of other ppl cuz rent is expensive so that sucks cuz I can't completely isolate but it's still doable for a few hours every few days. Exhausting tho, but what can you do?
I feel the same as Botan, time to time is nice to have a day only for you with nothing more around.
"I'm the type of person that will die if I don't have alone time." She's just like me fr
I need at least 3 days per week just for myself or I go insane xD
WE ARE!
Relatable Gamer Botan
playing together and living together are different after all
you still can be hang out with friends all day, but yeah
living together need some commitment
and I like my time alone like Botan lol, being alone rolling in bed all day after full week work is best
Botan is exactly me, gonna die if I don't have time for alone
Its so relatable that I can feel it deep in my soul
I've had roommates I've been really good friends with. Fun to hang out with, who are considerate and respect boundaries, honestly best case scenario for living with others, zero complaints.
But I would also never ever go back to it if I had a choice. Absolute privacy, absolute freedom, zero anxiety.
I'm truly shocked. Shocked!
I feel this. I’m ok with hanging out but I also want my alone time too
My cool lion idol can't be this much of an Introvert.
Tenshi have been living together with Dragon for long time until now
Damn, I always thought it would be nice if holomems lived with each other, but this makes perfect sense. You just can’t live without that peace of being alone, no one to disturb you, that sense of freedom to do what you want
Same…same…
similar to Korone in that aspect
I can relate 😌
I don't really understand why people asking this kind of question.
Same. As if people can't grasp the concept of "living together vs playing together"
Neither do I.
They seem to ignore the fact that Holomems have personal lives outside of streaming. One of the benefits of leaving your parents' house is that you can bring dates or friends over etc.
Not to mention some of the members may already have a significant other they live with. That would be a problem with a shared house.
The girls already do offcolabs once in a while. Fans should be happy with that.
I'm guessing after that little attempt at a "Holohouse" + the Area 51 shared apartment some viewers do want to see the girls have that like, roomcom concept of "besties living together" because it doest give for more impromptu interactions tho it's definitely not our place to ask for it.
"TH-cam houses" are a thing so people are probably used to the concept if they also watch other content creators. Especially since it gives rise to more "wacky hijinx" and "Fun story time".
I consider myself fairly extroverted but i would lose my mind if i didnt have my own space at the end of the day
Ah. That makes Botan an Ambivert but more onto the Introverted side.
Relatable.
BASED Botan, i remmeber living with friends 4y in my academic period ,and it was great, but as introvert i need time to just be alone in peace ( its not like I dont like people... but i just need time for myself) i perfectly understand
Relatable
You make a bestie, you become roomies, then you learn how much of a disaster they are. You end up making dirty-dish buckets because they don't do dishes and theirs fill up, they start putting their dirty dishes in yours. They make sandwiches and leave it all lying out. They don't clean, suck with laundry, duties. Some people were carried by their parents like that, doing everything for them. Make sure your potential roomie and yourself have the right stuff in them before you jump in and do it. Defo need alone-time (the seiso kind) ability where you're moving, that's just pure mental health essential.
Same as Subaru then. She said the same thing on one of her videos once.
she just like me frfr
Are me and Botan soulmates in this regard because I’m the same way.
I'm an incredibly clingy and physically affectionate person when I'm with someone I care about, whereas my partner is perfectly content spending time by herself and needs her alone time breaks or she just wouldn't be able to cope. Thankfully we learned how it works best for us because we communicate clearly and she knows how to set firm boundaries with me. It might not work if we lived together 24/7/365 but she actually works overseas in remote areas about 60% of the year and has to live in a different city for work 30 to 35% of the year. Its hard because due to the nature of her job I can't speak to her other than heavily censored and reviewed formal emails for up to three months at a time (despite the insanely strict nda we both had to sign) but that 5 to 10% of the year where she isn't working and gets a few days off around a weekend she will pick me up and we head out to her late grandparents house in a fairly remote area and shut ourselves away completely. While we are there it's just us, no phones or visitors (except sometimes our one other friend who is just the sweetest comes to stay and play for a few days). When my partner needs a cool down day she makes sure to tell me very clearly that this is what she needs and in turn I make sure to respect that, usually by working in the woodland attached to the property doing habitat maintenance or spend the day fishing etc or if the weather is just too bad I will occupy myself elsewhere in the house. I won't lie, it can be difficult from my perspective since we have such little time to spend together but so long as she comes to fetch me and lead me home at the end of the day for a nice hot shower and to curl up together for sleep then I would do anything to make sure she is happy.
Me-times are important. Being able to not have to worry about social conventions and just tune out the world is a nice thing. Also, Lamy would probably not leave Botan alone if they live together lol.
Omg, one of my people.
Same
She's a social introvert I guess
Hardcore Gamers are somewhat extroverted introverts. They socialize with people from time to time but by default, they mostly prefer being left alone.
I've always heard terrible stories with entertainers/youtubers living with eachother. It's just not ideal in most cases. They are rivals after all. You have to really trust eachother in order for it to work out.
Dear god... am I a reincarnation of Botan?
She's just like me frfr
She's just like me fr fr
It would be cool but when others tryed it like the creatures it didnt work out for very long.
They are famous, busy, buried in workloads, meet too many people, they record bunch of everything, interact with tons of people both in business and in personal life, barely have their own time.
So it's normal, to prefer being alone.
Eh, I don't think having a room mate means you can't have alone time, unless just huddling up in your room isn't enough and you need the whole house empty.
ayo she just like me fr fr
Cat huffing???
Is it really that uncommon of a thing to live with someone while still getting alone time? You're not constantly superglued to whoever you live with and i assume you have your own room, that type of thing can be arranged between em, no?
its more than "dont bother me today, dont even talk to me, dont make eye contact with me even if I see you in a hallway when i need to go use the bathroom."
Its other things like say, a Neat freak and hoarder become roommates (say their besties that met at school and hang around alot and even work in the sam company). The neatfreak does dishes, mops the kitchen and does proper laundrey. The Roommate lets their dishes pile up, leaves half eatened food on the table and just leaves clothes on the ground or on top of the washer and dryer.
When someone wants "Their space", that usually implies more than just their bedroom. Especially for those that have hobbies thats NOT playing video games. People do arts and crafts in the living room (or a special extra room if they have a big enough house). They do work outs and maybe have gym equipment. Or perhaps they have different work schedules and 1 works graveyard shift and 1 works day time shifts. So one is constantly awake while the other sleeps. Even if the roommate did their best to try and keep noise to a "Minimum", no one is perfectly silent and what if they want to have some other friends over or wanna do some cooking like deep frying (that cackles alot and makes noise).
Unless you're saying you're gonna stay cooped up in your bedroom all day (again depends on what your hobbies are). You wont really get that true alone time where you can be with just your own thoughts or have a "Safe space" where everything is clean (or unlclean if you're into that, i mean have you seen some Otaku rooms?")
So I can understand where Botan is coming from here. Korone and Okayu have also made similar comments to when people say they should live together since they seem such BFF and so close. Spoiler alert, They both rather feel they DONT want to live together.
Also usually when people have that mood of "I wanna be alone, dont fuck with me". You dont schedule those days. its like a mood swing. So sometimes that wont align with your roommate, Its especially awkward if your Roomate is also a family member.
That's why KanaCoco's dokyouzo concept is the best for Hololive members. It consists of more private time even when they live together and share same living room, bathroom, and kitchen.
Even with the KanaCoco house, there's no concept of privacy. Just because you live in different rooms, you're still sharing the amenities and will interact with people.
as someone who's been living in sharehouses for the last decade(god damn housing market bubble...), I think the girls really underestimate the alone time you can get while living with others. Generally, it's as easy as laying "my room is off-limits unless invited in" boundaries. Even if you just want days off, people will generally end up making a whatsapp(or LINE I guess in japan) group for the tenants for when someone needs to give a quick'n'easy heads-up like "I need me time today".
For pekora, it's more understandable, though. her sense of personal space is way heftier than normal.
yeah I live with my family and I have plenty of opportunities for alone time, it might be for other reasons that they choose not to live with others and maybe they're just not disclosing them or aren't aware of it themselves.
@@idonteatsoapbcidid probably not aware of it, specially if their family members have been nosy/not cared much about invading their rooms in their past experience.
Chu
is botan in denial about becoming a crazy cat lady?
my dude she is married and maybe has kids and they asking to live with others hololive vtubers?
She's married??
@@RusselledJimmy she is about 40 years old my dude
Isn't botan like 40? I wouldn't want to go back and live with young people either
Hmmm... But the source i got, she's around 30
Yeah, I am very much like that as well.