Thanks as always for tuning in! Regarding our discussion here - what stood out? What do you agree with? Disagree with? What should we extend into future episodes of the archives? Comment below!
Awesome episode guys! Really enjoyed the convo. Per my fueling, I averaged ~40g/hr when I ran 11:19:13. I arrived at that target through metabolic cart tests suggesting my 100 mile intensity would require that number at most. It was a simple glycogen defense model similar to David's but with pretty different dietary inputs on the day to day nutrition. IMO, the bigger potential limiter for my approach on race day is if the day to day fueling limits my ability to do harder sessions to enough of a degree my fitness is lesser than it would with a different approach at 100 mile intensities. I suspect that has been answered as a big yes for shorter endurance races. The tradeoff would be if I switched to moderate/high carb, my race day fueling at the same intensity would likely be closer to 90+ g/hr. I actually think the biggest limiter for me on that day was shoes. I wore the Altra Solstice (before it became a gym shoe). It was about as far from super shoe tech as you can get. Hoping to take another swing this year with premium foams. Like David, I will be finding the exact shoe for me for the specific event. Something you can really only do when exclusivity is removed from the decision making process :)
I am following David's Strava and it is insane. Great sessions and great videos. This is an incredible journey. Let's support David for this incredible attempt.
The thing about Stian’s situation is not even about whether he did it or not but that it makes athletes not trust the process. The issues with chain of custody, with documentation, with delays in notifying the athlete of the result, in denying the athlete a complete defence, in the event not being able to provide evidence of volunteer training on protocols and the event not showing any duty of care and holding themselves to the same standards of records that the athlete is required to keep. All of these things mean that the case should have been thrown out. As athletes and sponsors and even supporters, we are owed a system that we can trust.
Another thought I think you should bring up on the pod: Someone please do a 2025 version of Unbreakable. What an opportunity for a potentially epic story on film.
On the doping part.. Do all athletes in the top 10 in a big race get tested or just the podium 3? My point is- top 10 at WS or UTMB can boost one's chances significantly to sign a sponsorship deal.
As an outsider looking in, I think these top level runners need more options for sponsorship. I want to see an athlete running with a Wawa logo on their chest and a Wegmans decal on their backpack. Hopefully as the sport gets more online viewership this could be an option.
You challenged him to eating contest on your video. You should follow up. I suggest he copy one of Jamil’s best viewed videos or you and Brett do it. Jamil and Skyler went out trying to beat JW segments in AZ and beat one many years ago. They got Jim’s reaction on video. That is the good competition you guys talked about. He is clever to avoid shoe contract. Trail running is not growing fast compared to road running growing at a faster rate. That’s reason no trail shoes in top 10 sellers last year in specialty retail. They don’t care much about trail running yet. We think trail running growing a lot but in running as a whole it is peanuts unfortunately. Road is growing at a faster rate.
Nice click bait title :) I’m a big fan of Dave and hoping he makes it a battle to the end. So, so much can go wrong between now and then. I’m just hoping they all make it to the starting line healthy. I’d say there’s a 60-40 chance of that.
I know David has a lot of hot takes being ingrained in the community but this interview was awesome and insightful as a fan and as a mediocre runner…he should be a regular on your show…
Thanks as always for tuning in! Regarding our discussion here - what stood out? What do you agree with? Disagree with? What should we extend into future episodes of the archives? Comment below!
Awesome episode guys! Really enjoyed the convo. Per my fueling, I averaged ~40g/hr when I ran 11:19:13. I arrived at that target through metabolic cart tests suggesting my 100 mile intensity would require that number at most. It was a simple glycogen defense model similar to David's but with pretty different dietary inputs on the day to day nutrition. IMO, the bigger potential limiter for my approach on race day is if the day to day fueling limits my ability to do harder sessions to enough of a degree my fitness is lesser than it would with a different approach at 100 mile intensities. I suspect that has been answered as a big yes for shorter endurance races. The tradeoff would be if I switched to moderate/high carb, my race day fueling at the same intensity would likely be closer to 90+ g/hr. I actually think the biggest limiter for me on that day was shoes. I wore the Altra Solstice (before it became a gym shoe). It was about as far from super shoe tech as you can get. Hoping to take another swing this year with premium foams. Like David, I will be finding the exact shoe for me for the specific event. Something you can really only do when exclusivity is removed from the decision making process :)
I am following David's Strava and it is insane. Great sessions and great videos. This is an incredible journey. Let's support David for this incredible attempt.
lol! I never hated Swap, but it is an acquired taste. I don’t miss an episode now. And, I can’t wait til Megan is back.
When are we getting Jim and Killian on the pod?
I can't wait! WSER is going to be insane this year
I am here for the slight irunfar trash talk.
The thing about Stian’s situation is not even about whether he did it or not but that it makes athletes not trust the process. The issues with chain of custody, with documentation, with delays in notifying the athlete of the result, in denying the athlete a complete defence, in the event not being able to provide evidence of volunteer training on protocols and the event not showing any duty of care and holding themselves to the same standards of records that the athlete is required to keep. All of these things mean that the case should have been thrown out. As athletes and sponsors and even supporters, we are owed a system that we can trust.
As a rule I don't trust anyone who spends 95% of their time humble bragging. That being said, I'm very excited to follow WSER this year!
@@svenja5596 I’m honestly surprised that Finn and Brett can’t see right through it… it’s not subtle.
Finn working in a Scal reference like a true New Englander 😂
Another thought I think you should bring up on the pod: Someone please do a 2025 version of Unbreakable. What an opportunity for a potentially epic story on film.
Keep your eyes out. There's something coming out soon that will be your jam.
54:10 the greatest Freudian slip in endurance sports history. Don’t forget, David started the podcast saying he was ready to get cancelled 😂
On the doping part..
Do all athletes in the top 10 in a big race get tested or just the podium 3?
My point is- top 10 at WS or UTMB can boost one's chances significantly to sign a sponsorship deal.
As an outsider looking in, I think these top level runners need more options for sponsorship. I want to see an athlete running with a Wawa logo on their chest and a Wegmans decal on their backpack. Hopefully as the sport gets more online viewership this could be an option.
To answer the rhetorical question - yes, yes he will.
I hope he does!!!
LFG David!
You challenged him to eating contest on your video. You should follow up. I suggest he copy one of Jamil’s best viewed videos or you and Brett do it. Jamil and Skyler went out trying to beat JW segments in AZ and beat one many years ago. They got Jim’s reaction on video. That is the good competition you guys talked about. He is clever to avoid shoe contract. Trail running is not growing fast compared to road running growing at a faster rate. That’s reason no trail shoes in top 10 sellers last year in specialty retail. They don’t care much about trail running yet. We think trail running growing a lot but in running as a whole it is peanuts unfortunately. Road is growing at a faster rate.
Stand ya base!
Nice click bait title :) I’m a big fan of Dave and hoping he makes it a battle to the end. So, so much can go wrong between now and then. I’m just hoping they all make it to the starting line healthy. I’d say there’s a 60-40 chance of that.
walms 3 peat, brah
it's January brah!
Take a shot every time David makes the conversation about himself. You won’t last 5 minutes…
I know David has a lot of hot takes being ingrained in the community but this interview was awesome and insightful as a fan and as a mediocre runner…he should be a regular on your show…
If people don't call you crazy then you didn't set your goals high enough. Shock the world!
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