I second that. Initial impression was quirky, not that quirky is bad, but he is very intelligent and passionate about his T-Bird. Wonderful presentation
The '67 T-Bird is a wonderful blast from my past. My Uncle Bob owned one and I always thought they looked so cool with the hideaway front lights and the sequential back turn signal lights. These things impress you when you are a kid. I want to say that his T-Bird had a 390 but I wouldn't swear to that claim. The power of nostalgia still moves me all these decades later.
My dad bought a new 69 2 dr T-Bird. Similar look and colour , landau top to the '67 Engine was 429 as opposed to preferred 428, C6 and an 8 -track (ooh aah) It was nice cruiser, head on collision in 72 concluded that.
My uncle was a manager at the Ford casting plant in Cleveland-he always had cool cars-I remember seeing his new '67 4 door T-bird. I thought it was the most amazing car I had ever seen-the "clam shell" doors and the beautiful interior blew me away! Thanks, guys!
Again, you and Mark have a great design "conversation". Your presentation styles compliment each well. Mark sees and points out design subtleties I don't notice but are a big part of the overall final package.
My twin brother and I were born in 1967. My parents owned a 1966 T-bird Town Landau, which they traded for another T-bird TL in 1969. I remember the 1969....it was a stunning deep metallic green with black vinyl landau top and white leather interior. The car was traded in 1972 for a 1973 Ford LTD Country Squire. My mom said the main reason for the trade was the interior door handles were so accessible that we 4 year-old boys loved to grab the handle, opening the door while the car was in motion.
I remember being thrilled every time I’d see those sequential tail lights as a kid. Cougar had them too. Now my RS6 has them front and rear and I still think they’re cool.
@@rogerhinman5427 I will eventually be putting Raxiom's kit on my 02, just can't decide whether to have them do it faster or slower (there's an option).
In 1972, my second car purchased right after high school was a used ‘67 Mercury Cougar XR7. It was light green metallic with a black vinyl top and white letter tires. Loved the sequential turn signals and especially loved the XR7 instrument panel and center console which was decidedly “European” in character. I’ve owned many cars through the years but I think that Cougar just might be the best-looking of them all.
Marc is a fabulous guest. He has a great depth of design knowledge and it sounds like he loves talking about it. Thanks for another great video Adam! P.S. My first car was a 1962 Thunderbird that I acquired around 1972.
This has always been my favorite generation of the thunderbird. I just love the styling of it, and Ford's ad campaigns for the T-Bird lineup during this generation were so beautifully shot.
I was 10 years old when the 1967 Thunderbird was released. We lived near a small Ford/Mercury dealership and they had a dark blue 2 door Landau on the showroom floor at introduction. That was a very exciting time in my life each fall when the new models were released. Nowadays, ho hum.
I had the pleasure of doing an engine overhaul on one of these many years ago. It was the 390 with four barrel carb. Very heavy engine but a good performer and highly reliable.
Mark is so witty and insightful. He's great and Adam is brilliant in setting him up to get the best out of him. Really enjoyable and informative conversations
A wonderful episode with two iconic and handsome luxury cars from an era in American automobile history that will never be repeated. Marc is a fountain of styling information and his in-depth styling comments were a joy to hear and see!
Another absolutely, thoroughly enjoyable video! Who needs TV. These cars are from my childhood and young adulthood. Thank you so much! - Greg in California
I love how you take us to the days of my childhood. My brother had a 2 door 67 T Bird. It was in around 1970. I was only around 10 or so. But I loved it. It was the first car in the family that had FM radio . It looked a lot better than the 1966 model in my opinion.
Strenuously disagree ! The 1966 Thunderbird exterior design was incredibly more appealing front to back. Covered headlights are fun to watch operate but they contribute to the sameness that became prevalent of American car manufacturers during the late sixties and early seventies. Hence, the '66 model is infinitely more valuable as a collectible today. 🚘🔍
I'm with you, dmandman9! My very first car was a 64 Thunderbird, and I've had two, a 66 Town Landau and a 69 4-door Landau. Loved them all, but the 67-69 Birds are my absolute favorite. Beautiful and wonderful driving cars.
The 1967 Ford Thunderbird coup has always been one of my all time favorite car's !' The standard 390 engine was a good engine . I also like it with out the vinyl roof , and with the regular hubcaps . Over all it's a Real Nice Car !!'
My family owned both of those vehicles, when I was a youngster just learning to drive. Both were absolutely stunning and head turners. The "walking turn signals" were a favorite of mine. So much power and such a smooth ride. Nothing I've been in since can compete for the sheer luxury. And it seemed like the front end went on forever. When your dad told you to wash and wax the car, it was a many hours ordeal! Lots of sheet metal! A bygone era of beautiful car designs.
This brought back memories of my Boyhood too!...just now.. I remember riding in the back coved seat of the T-Bird, 2-things: You could hear the motor for the sequential turn signals as they operated, and, when the rear-vent was open for the flow-through ventilation, you could hear the engines of the cars waiting behind you at a stoplight. I remember leaning between the front seats to turn the switch off on the rear vent to close it.
I was in junior high when the '67 came out and a friend's parents bought the four door. It was such a fun car and so different from my parents' Bonneville! Always enjoy seeing Marc.
My uncle had a new 70 Thunderbird four door in navy blue with a black vinyl top. The back seat was like a couch. Liked the steering wheel moving up and over as you got out. It was a fast car.
Great video gentlemen! I’m not much of a Ford fan but the 67 Thunderbird is a magnificent design. The explanation by Mark makes me want one more than before.
These are two cars I used to really not like, but today I drool over them. Marc's Thunderbird is a drool worthy nod to the "future" and Adam's Mark III looks like it is fresh off the showroom floor. Adam, you have really created a fantastic TH-cam channel. You really should be proud of its content and your collection.
i could listen to Mark talk all day long. Hes very interesting and reminds me of that shop teacher that you really liked and were sad to leave at the end of the school year. Thanks Mark for your input
Again a favorite car I have owned! I had a 67 suicide door Tbird the same color as Marc's. If you put your turn signal on and push the emergency flasher, both sides will blink in sequence. Thank you both for this memory.
The '67 Thunderbird, particularly the 2 door version is somewhat unappreciated and I am happy that it is covered here. The design got modernized every year through 1971, but the '67 is the most pure expression of the designers' original idea. For a big car with a formal roof, it is so sleek. Unlike some of Ford's other 2 door hardtops, the 2 door 1967-69 Glamour Birds look good with or without a vinyl top. The styling tricks that Ford used to make the T-Bird look lower than it was are very well explained by Marc. And the front and rear styling could not be improved upon, even though Ford made changes in subsequent years. I can't wait for the interior discussion. There were so many interior choices for the Glamour Bird cars and they changed every year. Regardless of trim level, the '67 had "original" interior details and features not seen in the later cars. And it was the only year where a front bench was not offered on any trim. The '67 base vinyl interior had a sportier and slightly more upscale appearance than the base interior of the later cars. What many younger viewers may not realize is that the original buyers of these cars did not typically keep them for long. My former next door neighbor, an institutional food sales executive, traded his Thunderbirds every 2-3 years. I still remember the slight whistling noise (possibly from a vacuum leak) that his '69 Thunderbird made as it drove up the driveway. I am entirely OK with the addition of a "drop of silver" in Marc's car. It looks fabulous and does not change the color tone enough to make it look like a custom color.
Glad to see Marc back!! He gives a designer's perspective but delivers it in such a relatable way - the contrast to some well intentioned but completely unschooled youtubers is night and day. That was a really nice explanation of the 67, hopefully people will have a little more appreciation of them going forward. I'd love to see a part two with interior critique. The 67-71 (especially the Bunkie beack 70-71) 'birds exist in kind of a collector trough; people have even started collecting the Mark IV models, passing these by.
Mark is quite a character! Very nicely done gentlemen! Both extremely beautiful cars! My Favorite years for both vehicles was 1970 and 71 for both the Mark III and Thunderbird. Big and beautiful and they also added hideaway wipers on both to clean the look up nicely!
My favorite years for both cars. So elegant and wonderful design cues. Fascinated as to why the pressing of the T-Bird fender sheet metal 'wouldn't fly today', would have enjoyed hearing more about that. Mark is a character, you complement each other's style.
There’s hope for humanity now that at least 3 people love these cars. I’m the third. Remember sitting in the barrel back seat of the showroom T-Bird at Malasky Ford in Hudson NY while my dads 63 XL was in for service. Years later got a ride in a rich uncle’s bird. He showed me how the sequential lights worked. From what I remember there was a distributor looking device in the trunk under where a rear defogger would be. Great video and thank you.
I always loved the Mark III. It's imposing yet low as well. Never really thought much about the old T Birds ... but I now have an appreciation for all those lines. Thank goodness Lido had the T Bird to put a RR grill on.
Yes! Ive been craving a breakdown of this gen thunderbird! I had noticed half the details and body lines that Marc pointed out on this car, despite appreciating these for years. For me, those rear lights, the big shaver grill up front, and the wrap around lounge booth style back seat. I for one feel the contrasting vinyl roof on this example helps to even further lower the visual height of the car. Honestly, the entire rear end assembly is jewelry. Both of these cars are expertly styled vehicles and is one of the best examples of when platform sharing was fine- they managed to create two totally different vehicles despite sharing underpinnings.
Beautiful T-Bird, and as many have remarked, I never fully appreciated the artful but subtle body lines and how difficult it must have been to stamp. As a bit of a T-Bird purest, I was never a fan of the 4-door versions. I always thought the stretch looked like an afterthought. I felt the same way when Datsun stretched the 260Z to add a rear seat. I hope you post Part 2 quickly… my mouth is watering for the engine and interior discussion! Thank you, Adam and Marc! 👍👍👍
Both classics are fabulous automotive eye candy. Never knew the '67 Thunderbird and '69 Mark III shared the same platform, and had so many similarities.
Both of those cars are great! I'm 65 now but ever since I was a teenager in high school I ever had a yearning for any of the Thunderbirds, but especially this 1973 model. Now that I am older though I really do like that 67! 👍🏻 Just to add, back in the 70s in while I was in the Navy I had a 1967 Ford XL the same color as your Thunderbird.
Those two cars together look absolutely fantastic! Love the Thunderbird harmonica grille as I call it and the MKIII is as close to a custom car as you could get.
Both of these two vehicules were very iconic and thus they represented the epitomy of luxury, style and design, during the glorious heydays of Fords most productive years, in terms of car manufacturing sales, back in the 1960s. Hence! like the old saying use to go: " Ford! where the better ideas are". Lol! Thank you! so much for this magnificent! presentation, on the TH-cam channel and have yourself a great Summer out in Detroit, Michigan, Adam! Johnny Montréal Québec ❤️👍
I always find the mid 60s Thunderbirds odd vehicles that seem to feature styling from three different directions. The overall style and stance is dedicedly (Euro) sporty with a swoopy beltline. Its greenhouse is dedicedly formal luxury with vinyl, S-bar and shape. Its rear end is decidedly a remnant of early 60s space age styling and looks futuristic. All in all, in my opinion a weird combination. But I am biased 'cause I'd take the Mark III any day.. Great video as always!
We used to live in New Orleans, and in late 1966, my father traded in a 66 Thunderbird Town Hardtop at Metairie Ford for a new 1967 Thunderbird 2dr Landau in Sauterne with gold interior. I remember the hubcaps had blue spinners in the center with T-Bird logo. It was my mom's car for local driving although we took a trip to Colorado in it once. It was traded in 3 years later on a 1970 Buick Electra Custom.
The 68 and 69 versions of these cars were were superior in a couple of ways. First was the introduction of the more powerful 429 engine. Second was the change to a two piece bumper where one slim piece surrounded the grille and the second, lower part was painted body color. This visually lightened the front end of the car and was overall more in tune with the overall design. An effort by ford in the lowering of the car not mentioned here was the positioning of the engine. The engine was actually mounted leaning back to lower the driveline, how do I know? When I was replacing the carburetor in my own ‘69 with a Holley I discovered they used a wedge shaped spcer to level the factory carb. These were beautiful, solid, and fast cars and were the best combination of style and speed ever in a thunderbird.
yes, there are subtle differences in the 67 and 68 and the front valance panel definetly helps to lighten the front a bit. The 67s also had standard bucket seats with console, wherreas 68s a bench seat was standard on all.
Anybody knows how fast this gen t-birds can run the quarter mile, with the 428 and 429, in its fastest version available. Just curious, i know they are not intended for drag racing exactly. 100% showroom stock...
@@fernandochaves9665 I had a holley 750 carb and a shift kit in the auto trans in mine in the early 90’s . I never timed it but they are very heavy and they were slower from 0 than a Mustang 5.0 of the time. Their strength would be in a roll race, above 30 mph, the my Tbird could take a stock 5.0 and some other moderately fast coupes of the time. The speeds are relative since cars were generally slower then. The Honda Accord V6 I drive to work now is faster than both my old Tbird and the ‘95 Mustang 5.0.
Neat cars. I remember seeing them still around in the early to mid eighties being driven daily. I thought all the cars from that era, right before plastic became the norm were the last great American cars.
My father was a T-Bird guy and growing up hé had a '64, '67 and'72. The 1967 was always my favorite. White exterior with a red interior, no vinyl roof. Beautiful!
My uncle bought his wife (my aunt) a new T Bird every 3 years since 1958. When he bought her this one it was as usual the full package. Solid black (they all were ) and I as a teenager occasionally was allowed to drive it. WOW and WOW again. Never forget any of those birds but the 67/68 was my favorite.
This video was a pleasant surprise ! Other than the color of the Lincoln, these are the exact 2 cars my best friend and I owned in high school in 1978 ! Brought back some memories. Thank you 😊
Very informative. This dude knows his stuff. My first Hot Wheels was an aqua 1967 Thunderbird, and I've loved the car ever since. I never realized how much thought and effort was put into the design. Very cool.
Tears in my eyes. I miss being 12 and admiring the '67 T-Birds. My favorite thing about ALL Fords was the flower-pot steering wheel. Don't know why, I just loved it.
The 67-69 Thunderbird is the most beautiful and classy TBird design ever. The 4 door sedans were especially unique. Fantastic 69 ad “For the Open Road and the Open Sky”😍
This was my FAVORITE of your videos so far Adam!!! As the very proud owner of both a 67 Landau coupe and a 70 Mark lll I know these cars all too well. I’ve owned then since 1989 and 1985 respectively. While the Mark lll has a vault like build to it the 67 Tbird is even more solid and very little plastic on the interior. The ONE YEAR ONLY 1967 Tbird interior is awesome as well. It still retains that sport jet inspired theme in a very tasteful way. Starting 1968 the Tbirds interiors became more mark like and each year more and more plastic and less and less sporty. By 1969 the Tbird interiors were more luxurious then sporty IMO. BOTH are superb vehicles and I’d dare say the high water mark for both Lincoln and Tbird from a build quality and over all ride experience.
as a pre-driving age teen, I fawned over the 2 page 1967 Thunderbird ad introducing the 4 door, with the long cool woman in the backseat dressed in the floor length dress... then I stated noticing the later T-birds were not so glamourous... it took me a while to realize ALL the differences in the interior. :)
The 1969 Thunderbird 4-door Landau is the car that started my obsession with this era of Thunderbirds, and with cars in general. I was 7 years old when my Aunt Janie drove up in front of our house with her new 69 in Indian Fire Metallic with black top and fancy black cloth and vinyl interior. It was a dazzling car to me as a child. I would always have my aunt show me how the steering wheel would spring up and over when she opened the door. And I'd watch the gorgeous taillamps as she drove away, sometimes seeing the turn signals do their thing if she remembered to use them as I had begged her to do. I was such an obsessed kid with that car. The Thunderbird was loaded with power everything, lights overhead and a stereo that to my young ears sounded like nothing I had ever heard before. The way the rear doors opened fascinated me. I would call my aunt to come over so I could wash her car, and so often that would end with me in trouble for running the battery down by having the doors open while cleaning on it. 7 bulbs illuminated the interior every time a door was opened, so it didn't take long.
We had a 68 or 9 with the 429 , the materials and design of the interior were amazing and never had any issues with the car till eventually the frame rusted out.
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The Thunderbird is beautiful and we're very lucky to have an informed explanation of its design from Mark. I love the color as well.
Yes, the color goes well with the top.
Mark has an art theory/history vernacular that is very informative, takes me back to my school days.
When American cars were rolling pieces of art, truly beautiful sculping lines!
Possibly the classiest T-Bird of all time. Beautiful from every angle.
Marc is great! Please have him on the channel more often.
Agreed
I second that. Initial impression was quirky, not that quirky is bad, but he is very intelligent and passionate about his T-Bird. Wonderful presentation
My parents had a ‘67 four-door Thunderbird. It was loaded, and was built like a tank. My family loved that car!
I love it when you guys geek out on the styling. Both the Mark III and T-bird are stunning cars!
GM man knows his stuff.
Love the way he talks about die making.
Your guest made a great explanation of the Thunderbird’s exterior design. I will now always see this car as sculptured art and not a vehicle.
I'm the same way, great job.
Vacuum cleaner.
@@sharksport01 Hate to be a nay-sayer but my uncle a Ford man would say "crocodile" for that T-bird.
The '67 T-Bird is a wonderful blast from my past. My Uncle Bob owned one and I always thought they looked so cool with the hideaway front lights and the sequential back turn signal lights. These things impress you when you are a kid. I want to say that his T-Bird had a 390 but I wouldn't swear to that claim. The power of nostalgia still moves me all these decades later.
It likely was a 390, the 428 was optional but somewhat rare.
"The power of nostalgia still moves me all these decades later." Amen Brother!
Yes, I owned a '67 Bird with a 390. Passed everything except a gas station. Gas was cheaper when I owned mine, only used Sunoco 260. Loved that car!
@@mikestirn8216 I owned the Hot Wheels version!
My dad bought a new 69 2 dr T-Bird. Similar look and colour , landau top to the '67
Engine was 429 as opposed to preferred 428, C6 and an 8 -track (ooh aah)
It was nice cruiser, head on collision in 72 concluded that.
My uncle was a manager at the Ford casting plant in Cleveland-he always had cool cars-I remember seeing his new '67 4 door T-bird. I thought it was the most amazing car I had ever seen-the "clam shell" doors and the beautiful interior blew me away! Thanks, guys!
I’m still wishing that Adam & Mark start there own Late Night Talk Show!!! These Automobile Comparisons are getting Better & Better! 👍👍👍
My Dad bought a 68 T bird in 1970....white, dark blue interior, 429....nice rig!
Love this gen of Thunderbirds.
Again, you and Mark have a great design "conversation". Your presentation styles compliment each well. Mark sees and points out design subtleties I don't notice but are a big part of the overall final package.
My twin brother and I were born in 1967. My parents owned a 1966 T-bird Town Landau, which they traded for another T-bird TL in 1969. I remember the 1969....it was a stunning deep metallic green with black vinyl landau top and white leather interior. The car was traded in 1972 for a 1973 Ford LTD Country Squire. My mom said the main reason for the trade was the interior door handles were so accessible that we 4 year-old boys loved to grab the handle, opening the door while the car was in motion.
If only your parents had waited another year! Along with marker lights, the feds required more childproof interior latches in 1968.
I remember being thrilled every time I’d see those sequential tail lights as a kid. Cougar had them too. Now my RS6 has them front and rear and I still think they’re cool.
I had a cousin with a '67 or '68 Cougar which had them. I loved it. So much I bought a kit to convert the taillights on my '01 Mustang to sequential.
@@rogerhinman5427 I will eventually be putting Raxiom's kit on my 02, just can't decide whether to have them do it faster or slower (there's an option).
@@HAL-dm1eh I went with the modified flasher which slows them down. A bit of a pain to get at under the dash, but I thought it was worth it.
In 1972, my second car purchased right after high school was a used ‘67 Mercury Cougar XR7. It was light green metallic with a black vinyl top and white letter tires. Loved the sequential turn signals and especially loved the XR7 instrument panel and center console which was decidedly “European” in character. I’ve owned many cars through the years but I think that Cougar just might be the best-looking of them all.
I bought a conversion kit for my 2008 Mustang so I could have sequential taillights. Love them!
Marc is a fabulous guest. He has a great depth of design knowledge and it sounds like he loves talking about it. Thanks for another great video Adam! P.S. My first car was a 1962 Thunderbird that I acquired around 1972.
It is very refreshing to have two youngish men speaking about anything intelligently and articulately with good vocabularies. Great channel.
Congrats Adam on being so CLOSE to 100K Subscribers in such a short amount of time. Seriously. Good for you. 🎉
This has always been my favorite generation of the thunderbird. I just love the styling of it, and Ford's ad campaigns for the T-Bird lineup during this generation were so beautifully shot.
That wild man added a drop of silver to the color! Marc was living on the EDGE! lol, he's a character.
I was 10 years old when the 1967 Thunderbird was released. We lived near a small Ford/Mercury dealership and they had a dark blue 2 door Landau on the showroom floor at introduction. That was a very exciting time in my life each fall when the new models were released. Nowadays, ho hum.
I still recall the enthralling slogan atop the print ads for the 1967 cars: New Thunder. From the Bird.
I learned a lot from this design analysis!
I had the pleasure of doing an engine overhaul on one of these many years ago. It was the 390 with four barrel carb. Very heavy engine but a good performer and highly reliable.
Had an uncle that bought a thunderbird back in 67. Was a dream car to me. You guys do a great job!
We love Marc!!
Loved this Video Mark knows his cars
Enjoyed his explanation of all the subtleties of the Lincoln and the Thunderbird. Bring him back
Mark is so witty and insightful. He's great and Adam is brilliant in setting him up to get the best out of him. Really enjoyable and informative conversations
A wonderful episode with two iconic and handsome luxury cars from an era in American automobile history that will never be repeated. Marc is a fountain of styling information and his in-depth styling comments were a joy to hear and see!
Yes finally a '67 'bird my favorite. Thanks for bringing this one Mark. Great video.
Another absolutely, thoroughly enjoyable video! Who needs TV. These cars are from my childhood and young adulthood. Thank you so much! - Greg in California
Thank you guys for sharing your cars with us.
Adam, thank you so much for featuring this beautiful 1967 Thunderbird.
That T-bird is gorgeous.
I love how you take us to the days of my childhood. My brother had a 2 door 67 T Bird. It was in around 1970. I was only around 10 or so. But I loved it. It was the first car in the family that had FM radio . It looked a lot better than the 1966 model in my opinion.
Strenuously disagree ! The 1966 Thunderbird exterior design was incredibly more appealing front to back. Covered headlights are fun to watch operate but they contribute to the sameness that became prevalent of American car manufacturers during the late sixties and early seventies. Hence, the '66 model is infinitely more valuable as a collectible today. 🚘🔍
I'm with you, dmandman9! My very first car was a 64 Thunderbird, and I've had two, a 66 Town Landau and a 69 4-door Landau. Loved them all, but the 67-69 Birds are my absolute favorite. Beautiful and wonderful driving cars.
Adam, Marc is always welcome. It is reassuring to see you are putting the long weekend to good use. 😉
This guy knows his cars!
The 1967 Ford Thunderbird coup has always been one of my all time favorite car's !' The standard 390 engine was a good engine . I also like it with out the vinyl roof ,
and with the regular hubcaps . Over all it's a Real Nice Car !!'
Damn the front fender and the grill is just beautiful😮
My family owned both of those vehicles, when I was a youngster just learning to drive. Both were absolutely stunning and head turners. The "walking turn signals" were a favorite of mine. So much power and such a smooth ride. Nothing I've been in since can compete for the sheer luxury. And it seemed like the front end went on forever. When your dad told you to wash and wax the car, it was a many hours ordeal! Lots of sheet metal! A bygone era of beautiful car designs.
This brought back memories of my Boyhood too!...just now.. I remember riding in the back coved seat of the T-Bird, 2-things: You could hear the motor for the sequential turn signals as they operated, and, when the rear-vent was open for the flow-through ventilation, you could hear the engines of the cars waiting behind you at a stoplight. I remember leaning between the front seats to turn the switch off on the rear vent to close it.
I was in junior high when the '67 came out and a friend's parents bought the four door. It was such a fun car and so different from my parents' Bonneville! Always enjoy seeing Marc.
Those "Glamour Bird" Thunderbirds are great looking. Very interesting as always to get Marc's take on this and other designs.
My uncle had a new 70 Thunderbird four door in navy blue with a black vinyl top. The back seat was like a couch. Liked the steering wheel moving up and over as you got out. It was a fast car.
Great video gentlemen! I’m not much of a Ford fan but the 67 Thunderbird is a magnificent design. The explanation by Mark makes me want one more than before.
These are two cars I used to really not like, but today I drool over them. Marc's Thunderbird is a drool worthy nod to the "future" and Adam's Mark III looks like it is fresh off the showroom floor. Adam, you have really created a fantastic TH-cam channel. You really should be proud of its content and your collection.
Thx!
Thank Adam. Thank you for bringing your designer friend Mark back explaining the styling details. It is interesting to learn what is being conveyed.
i could listen to Mark talk all day long. Hes very interesting and reminds me of that shop teacher that you really liked and were sad to leave at the end of the school year. Thanks Mark for your input
Again a favorite car I have owned! I had a 67 suicide door Tbird the same color as Marc's. If you put your turn signal on and push the emergency flasher, both sides will blink in sequence. Thank you both for this memory.
Love this generation of T-birds! 👍 thanks for posting.
Great video. My favorite cars are the mid-60s Thunderbirds (with Lincoln a close second). Can't wait to see part 2.
The '67 Thunderbird, particularly the 2 door version is somewhat unappreciated and I am happy that it is covered here. The design got modernized every year through 1971, but the '67 is the most pure expression of the designers' original idea. For a big car with a formal roof, it is so sleek.
Unlike some of Ford's other 2 door hardtops, the 2 door 1967-69 Glamour Birds look good with or without a vinyl top. The styling tricks that Ford used to make the T-Bird look lower than it was are very well explained by Marc. And the front and rear styling could not be improved upon, even though Ford made changes in subsequent years.
I can't wait for the interior discussion. There were so many interior choices for the Glamour Bird cars and they changed every year. Regardless of trim level, the '67 had "original" interior details and features not seen in the later cars. And it was the only year where a front bench was not offered on any trim. The '67 base vinyl interior had a sportier and slightly more upscale appearance than the base interior of the later cars.
What many younger viewers may not realize is that the original buyers of these cars did not typically keep them for long. My former next door neighbor, an institutional food sales executive, traded his Thunderbirds every 2-3 years. I still remember the slight whistling noise (possibly from a vacuum leak) that his '69 Thunderbird made as it drove up the driveway.
I am entirely OK with the addition of a "drop of silver" in Marc's car. It looks fabulous and does not change the color tone enough to make it look like a custom color.
Thank you Marc for your observations.
Marc 5 sure knows his English and his vehicles. Bring him back please. The colors of both of these are so beautiful. I want them both.
Glad to see Marc back!! He gives a designer's perspective but delivers it in such a relatable way - the contrast to some well intentioned but completely unschooled youtubers is night and day. That was a really nice explanation of the 67, hopefully people will have a little more appreciation of them going forward. I'd love to see a part two with interior critique. The 67-71 (especially the Bunkie beack 70-71) 'birds exist in kind of a collector trough; people have even started collecting the Mark IV models, passing these by.
Wow two great automobiles, love them both but the T bird has an edge. Thanks guys😊
Seeing this new video this morning made my day.
Mark is quite a character! Very nicely done gentlemen! Both extremely beautiful cars! My Favorite years for both vehicles was 1970 and 71 for both the Mark III and Thunderbird. Big and beautiful and they also added hideaway wipers on both to clean the look up nicely!
Yay-Mark is back!! And he owns a great T-Bird.
You guys have a great chemistry together. Nice video to watch!
My favorite years for both cars. So elegant and wonderful design cues. Fascinated as to why the pressing of the T-Bird fender sheet metal 'wouldn't fly today', would have enjoyed hearing more about that. Mark is a character, you complement each other's style.
2 of my all time favorite makes and models. Works of art they are. Thank you.
There’s hope for humanity now that at least 3 people love these cars. I’m the third. Remember sitting in the barrel back seat of the showroom T-Bird at Malasky Ford in Hudson
NY while my dads 63 XL was in for service. Years later got a ride in a rich uncle’s bird. He showed me how the sequential lights worked. From what I remember there was a distributor looking device in the trunk under where a rear defogger would be. Great video and thank you.
These are both wonderful cars. Thank you, for the share.
Wonderful video! I’ve always loved both of these cars but I’ll take that Thunderbird any day.
I’ve always really liked both of these cars. This in-depth presentation is outstanding!
I love Mark's descriptive vocabulary, easy to tell he has an extensive design background/education
Nice to see Marc again. Two very beautiful vehicles and you present them with incredible detailed knowledge. Thank you guys!
His knowledge is next level, almost autistic. Of course I mean that as he has car knowledge super powers, not an insult in any way.
I always loved the Mark III. It's imposing yet low as well. Never really thought much about the old T Birds ... but I now have an appreciation for all those lines. Thank goodness Lido had the T Bird to put a RR grill on.
Yes! Ive been craving a breakdown of this gen thunderbird! I had noticed half the details and body lines that Marc pointed out on this car, despite appreciating these for years. For me, those rear lights, the big shaver grill up front, and the wrap around lounge booth style back seat. I for one feel the contrasting vinyl roof on this example helps to even further lower the visual height of the car. Honestly, the entire rear end assembly is jewelry.
Both of these cars are expertly styled vehicles and is one of the best examples of when platform sharing was fine- they managed to create two totally different vehicles despite sharing underpinnings.
Beautiful T-Bird, and as many have remarked, I never fully appreciated the artful but subtle body lines and how difficult it must have been to stamp. As a bit of a T-Bird purest, I was never a fan of the 4-door versions. I always thought the stretch looked like an afterthought. I felt the same way when Datsun stretched the 260Z to add a rear seat. I hope you post Part 2 quickly… my mouth is watering for the engine and interior discussion! Thank you, Adam and Marc! 👍👍👍
Adam Marc is AWESOME, please feature him more, you are AWESOME too. :) Great Info...... Loved it. !!!!
Both classics are fabulous automotive eye candy. Never knew the '67 Thunderbird and '69 Mark III shared the same platform, and had so many similarities.
Both of those cars are great!
I'm 65 now but ever since I was a teenager in high school I ever had a yearning for any of the Thunderbirds, but especially this 1973 model. Now that I am older though I really do like that 67! 👍🏻
Just to add, back in the 70s in while I was in the Navy I had a 1967 Ford XL the same color as your Thunderbird.
Those two cars together look absolutely fantastic! Love the Thunderbird harmonica grille as I call it and the MKIII is as close to a custom car as you could get.
Both of these two vehicules were very iconic and thus they represented the epitomy of luxury, style and design, during the glorious heydays of Fords most productive years, in terms of car manufacturing sales, back in the 1960s. Hence! like the old saying use to go: " Ford! where the better ideas are". Lol!
Thank you! so much for this magnificent! presentation, on the TH-cam channel and have yourself a great Summer out in Detroit, Michigan, Adam!
Johnny Montréal Québec ❤️👍
I always find the mid 60s Thunderbirds odd vehicles that seem to feature styling from three different directions.
The overall style and stance is dedicedly (Euro) sporty with a swoopy beltline.
Its greenhouse is dedicedly formal luxury with vinyl, S-bar and shape.
Its rear end is decidedly a remnant of early 60s space age styling and looks futuristic.
All in all, in my opinion a weird combination. But I am biased 'cause I'd take the Mark III any day..
Great video as always!
The Landau vinyl top always looked hearse-like to me, and when eliminated the coupe is absolutely gorgeous.
The Mark III is rather plain looking. As Ioccoca said build me a car around a Rolls grill. The Mk IV is a better looking car.
We used to live in New Orleans, and in late 1966, my father traded in a 66 Thunderbird Town Hardtop at Metairie Ford for a new 1967 Thunderbird 2dr Landau in Sauterne with gold interior. I remember the hubcaps had blue spinners in the center with T-Bird logo. It was my mom's car for local driving although we took a trip to Colorado in it once. It was traded in 3 years later on a 1970 Buick Electra Custom.
Great to see Marc and the Mark again. 😁
The 68 and 69 versions of these cars were were superior in a couple of ways. First was the introduction of the more powerful 429 engine. Second was the change to a two piece bumper where one slim piece surrounded the grille and the second, lower part was painted body color. This visually lightened the front end of the car and was overall more in tune with the overall design. An effort by ford in the lowering of the car not mentioned here was the positioning of the engine. The engine was actually mounted leaning back to lower the driveline, how do I know? When I was replacing the carburetor in my own ‘69 with a Holley I discovered they used a wedge shaped spcer to level the factory carb.
These were beautiful, solid, and fast cars and were the best combination of style and speed ever in a thunderbird.
yes, there are subtle differences in the 67 and 68 and the front valance panel definetly helps to lighten the front a bit. The 67s also had standard bucket seats with console, wherreas 68s a bench seat was standard on all.
Anybody knows how fast this gen t-birds can run the quarter mile, with the 428 and 429, in its fastest version available. Just curious, i know they are not intended for drag racing exactly. 100% showroom stock...
@@fernandochaves9665 I had a holley 750 carb and a shift kit in the auto trans in mine in the early 90’s . I never timed it but they are very heavy and they were slower from 0 than a Mustang 5.0 of the time. Their strength would be in a roll race, above 30 mph, the my Tbird could take a stock 5.0 and some other moderately fast coupes of the time. The speeds are relative since cars were generally slower then. The Honda Accord V6 I drive to work now is faster than both my old Tbird and the ‘95 Mustang 5.0.
@@2011joser yeah, times have changed. Thanks..
I like the cornering lights on the 68
I feel so brilliant after listening to Mark! Fantastic video, Adam!
Neat cars. I remember seeing them still around in the early to mid eighties being driven daily. I thought all the cars from that era, right before plastic became the norm were the last great American cars.
My father was a T-Bird guy and growing up hé had a '64, '67 and'72.
The 1967 was always my favorite. White exterior with a red interior, no vinyl roof. Beautiful!
My uncle bought his wife (my aunt) a new T Bird every 3 years since 1958. When he bought her this one it was as usual the full package. Solid black (they all were ) and I as a teenager occasionally was allowed to drive it. WOW and WOW again. Never forget any of those birds but the 67/68 was my favorite.
I'm a ford guy who loves 60's Tbirds so thank you for this!
This video was a pleasant surprise ! Other than the color of the Lincoln, these are the exact 2 cars my best friend and I owned in high school in 1978 ! Brought back some memories. Thank you 😊
Very informative. This dude knows his stuff. My first Hot Wheels was an aqua 1967 Thunderbird, and I've loved the car ever since. I never realized how much thought and effort was put into the design. Very cool.
Thank you for the expert design analysis on these two wonderful FOMOCOs from the era when Detroit was at its peak.
Beautiful, elegant, superb quality classics.
Tears in my eyes. I miss being 12 and admiring the '67 T-Birds. My favorite thing about ALL Fords was the flower-pot steering wheel. Don't know why, I just loved it.
The 67 Thunderbird is a great looking car. I remember my 1st grade teacher (in 1974) drove a triple black 4dr Thunderbird and I loved them ever since.
The 67-69 Thunderbird is the most beautiful and classy TBird design ever. The 4 door sedans were especially unique. Fantastic 69 ad “For the Open Road and the Open Sky”😍
You guys describe these cars so well with words, it seems you guys were stylists as well historians. So fun to watch your vidoes....and informative.
Your videos are very informative and accurate. Thank you for what you do.
This was my FAVORITE of your videos so far Adam!!! As the very proud owner of both a 67 Landau coupe and a 70 Mark lll I know these cars all too well. I’ve owned then since 1989 and 1985 respectively. While the Mark lll has a vault like build to it the 67 Tbird is even more solid and very little plastic on the interior. The ONE YEAR ONLY 1967 Tbird interior is awesome as well. It still retains that sport jet inspired theme in a very tasteful way. Starting 1968 the Tbirds interiors became more mark like and each year more and more plastic and less and less sporty. By 1969 the Tbird interiors were more luxurious then sporty IMO. BOTH are superb vehicles and I’d dare say the high water mark for both Lincoln and Tbird from a build quality and over all ride experience.
as a pre-driving age teen, I fawned over the 2 page 1967 Thunderbird ad introducing the 4 door, with the long cool woman in the backseat dressed in the floor length dress... then I stated noticing the later T-birds were not so glamourous... it took me a while to realize ALL the differences in the interior. :)
Yes the interior is a work of art on the 67 as well as the exterior. I think these are so under appreciated it’s sad
I sat through this in one viewing, very informative and entertaining thank you gentlemen.
The 1969 Thunderbird 4-door Landau is the car that started my obsession with this era of Thunderbirds, and with cars in general.
I was 7 years old when my Aunt Janie drove up in front of our house with her new 69 in Indian Fire Metallic with black top and fancy black cloth and vinyl interior. It was a dazzling car to me as a child. I would always have my aunt show me how the steering wheel would spring up and over when she opened the door. And I'd watch the gorgeous taillamps as she drove away, sometimes seeing the turn signals do their thing if she remembered to use them as I had begged her to do. I was such an obsessed kid with that car. The Thunderbird was loaded with power everything, lights overhead and a stereo that to my young ears sounded like nothing I had ever heard before. The way the rear doors opened fascinated me. I would call my aunt to come over so I could wash her car, and so often that would end with me in trouble for running the battery down by having the doors open while cleaning on it. 7 bulbs illuminated the interior every time a door was opened, so it didn't take long.
As the owner of a '67 myself, I totally love this design walk-around. I am looking at my car with fresh eyes.
We had a 68 or 9 with the 429 , the materials and design of the interior were amazing and never had any issues with the car till eventually the frame rusted out.
The 67 Thunderbird is one of the cars I remember where I was the first time I ever saw one. when I was 6 years old and was already a car kid.