5 Personal Airplanes You Can Buy For Less Than $30,000

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    When we think of airplane ownership, specifically small single engine piston engine airplanes. The general consensus is that owning an airplane is only reserved for the rich. Well I hate to break to ya. Actually just about anyone with a job can afford to own an airplane. If you can afford a brand new honda accord, chances are you can afford to own a single engine airplane.
    Four of the airplanes shared in this video are certified, cessna, piper and grumman and one is an experimental build, the sonex. Outside of the amateur build sone, consider these airplanes old and rugged. They are rugged and very reliable aircrafts. The fact that they’ve already made it through several decades and still flyable is amazing.
    Here are the 5 airplanes listed
    Cessna 150: The cessna 150 is what you consider your modern day light sport aircraft. Except the model is about 50 years old. And unlike modern light airplanes, cessna 150s are fully certified aircrafts. Both for VFR and IFR flying if fully equipped. The best thing about this airplane is the low entry cost and low cost of maintenance. Also the cessna 150 is one of the most forgiving airplanes in General aviation. Very reliable and slow to fly. Great airplane to learn and build some time for new pilots.
    Range: 300 Nautical Miles
    Cruise speed: 103 knots
    Useful load: 303 pounds
    Fuel consumption: 5 gallons per hour
    Avg Used Price: $20,000
    Cessna 172: When you think of the godfather of general aviation aircrafts, think of the cessna 172. One of the oldest modeled airplane still being produced in the US today. The 172 have certainly earned it’s stripes in aviation over that last few decades. A great reliable and safe airplane, but with more speed, range and better useful load than the cessna 150. Cessna 172 remains one of the most utilized training aircraft till today.
    Range: 435 Nautical Miles
    Cruise speed: 115 knots
    Useful load: 930 pounds
    Fuel consumption: 8 gallons per hour
    Avg Used Price: $29,000
    Piper Cherokee 140: A superb low wing airplane that was first introduced in the 1960s. Back then this was considered a very sporty airplane, still is. But what sets the piper cherokee apart is it’s great handling and forgiving characteristics, and many pilots have said this is one of the easiest aircrafts to land. The piper cherokee comes in multiple variations/models. You have the 140, 160, 180 and 235, all with different size engines and performance differences. This airplane is also one of the few early birds that is still used to train new pilots in todays age.
    Range: 455 Nautical Miles
    Cruise speed: 110 knots
    Useful load: 900 pounds
    Fuel consumption: 8 gallons per hour
    Avg Used Price: $25,000
    Grumman American AA1A: The Grumman is a vintage aircraft still flying today. The best thing about the Grumman is not only it’s handling characteristics but the price. A used Grumman can be bought in today’s market for as little as $16,000. The late 60s models with a nice six pack avionics panel. Low purchase price also translate into low maintenance cost for this airplane. It uses a similar lycoming engine as the cessna 150, thus share some of the same performance. Except the grumman has much better useful load at 1007 pounds.
    Range: 350 Nautical Miles
    Cruise speed: 109 knots
    Useful load: 1007 pounds
    Fuel consumption: 6 gallons per hour
    Avg Used Price: $18,000
    Sonex Waiex: Sonex aircraft is an amateur built airplane kit manufacturer. One of the many based in the US. They provide kits for several airplane models, which include a one seater (sonex onex) and a personal jet (subsonex). Amazing right? building your own personal single engine jet for only $100,000. The model displayed in this video is the Sonex Waiex-B model. Great little airplane that sits two comfortably and travels at speeds north of 130 miles per hour.
    Range: 500 Nautical Miles
    Cruise speed: 113 knots
    Useful load: 480 pounds
    Fuel consumption: 4 gallons per hour
    Avg Used Price: $24,000
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  • @mojogrip
    @mojogrip  5 ปีที่แล้ว +254

    $40,000 HomeBuilt Airplane th-cam.com/video/K9PuYZYxk0Y/w-d-xo.html

    • @rsar61
      @rsar61 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Could you do a video like this on helicopters

    • @mattolmstead6150
      @mattolmstead6150 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @dany mustang 2 homebuilt. But you dont want to fly more than 4 hours at a time without stopping it gets a little rough.

    • @mattivirta
      @mattivirta 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      40K home build no newer max need be 10-20K only if need build in home too. ready to use can buy 40 000

    • @TheDrakulie
      @TheDrakulie 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      how does this handle in severe thunderstorm ?

    • @mattolmstead6150
      @mattolmstead6150 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TheDrakulie just like any plane you will avoid any Cumulonimbus clouds and convective activity

  • @Citizen-of-theworld
    @Citizen-of-theworld 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3234

    This video flows better at 1.25x speed. Give it a try.

    • @OverKilL413
      @OverKilL413 5 ปีที่แล้ว +178

      You are right thats normal 😂

    • @ltphilipg
      @ltphilipg 5 ปีที่แล้ว +43

      More like 2x lol

    • @cyrix165
      @cyrix165 5 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      But then he is high pitched

    • @_sp00kyb0i_
      @_sp00kyb0i_ 5 ปีที่แล้ว +72

      At .75x he sounds like hes drunk or on sedatives lol

    • @backcant7757
      @backcant7757 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Jonathan Ball yeah

  • @DavidLGood
    @DavidLGood 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1388

    Wow. A Top 5 video that isn't click bait or stolen advertisements compiled together. A legitimate Top 5 video that actually delivers great content and has reasoning behind the list. This is what Top 5 videos should be like. THANK YOU!

    • @cobytheq1718
      @cobytheq1718 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Your so right dude😂👍🏻

    • @fish8450
      @fish8450 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      172 likes, ironic :)

    • @nffctv184
      @nffctv184 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      I was a bit disappointed that the Antonov 225 was not on there

    • @srinivasans5429
      @srinivasans5429 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Joseph G 123 YT hahahahah

    • @ansterling522
      @ansterling522 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      I just saw this comment has 666 likes

  • @Saad-bz2hx
    @Saad-bz2hx 5 ปีที่แล้ว +399

    I’m 16, waiting to be 17 and literally counting everyday just so i could apply for my PPL. I been saving up for 4 years now and i just want to achieve my dream, as much as people make fun of my dreams and call it “ out of reach “ i still believe in myself, stay positive people and pray for me hehe :P
    UPDATE: i'm 18 now, i got my PPL almost 3 weeks ago, me and a friend bought a Cessna 152 and we are having ALOT of fun every time we fly over the city, there's something magical about it and every time we take off there's a feeling i can't even describe.. i want to tell anyone reading this, please don't ever give up.. time will take care of things as long as you're working for them.
    thank you guys for your prayers.

    • @Luna-im2sf
      @Luna-im2sf 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      GL!

    • @Gringo_Lingo
      @Gringo_Lingo 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      That’s good you’re focused at your age! Back when I was 17 my dreams were convoluted, and I wish I would have buckled down and focused on aviation while I had scholarships. Now is the best time to pursue aviation!

    • @atomictrash2784
      @atomictrash2784 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      So, have you got it yet?

    • @4franz4
      @4franz4 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@atomictrash2784 good question

    • @captain2294
      @captain2294 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Pilot-respect

  • @Bodhidata
    @Bodhidata 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1300

    I bought a C150 for under $20K. My first annual? $450 owner assist. My insurance? $475/yr. Tiedown? $75/mo. Gas? 5 gal/hr. So while you narrow minded naysayers are attempting to show how much you know about why these planes won't work I'm actually doing it and having the time of my life flying over you while you wallow in negativity. C ya! Wouldn't want to be ya!

    • @LordDice1
      @LordDice1 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Eric Woods Tyson thank you☺

    • @magic3400
      @magic3400 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Eric Woods Tyson thank you☺

    • @Bodhidata
      @Bodhidata 6 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      My insurance allows me to charge up to 4 named pilots at no extra charge. Also when you leaseback to my flight school we pay the $350/mo insurance, tiedown, 100 hour inspections and give you $500/month on a Cherokee 140.

    • @BattleshipMan_
      @BattleshipMan_ 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Eric Woods where did you buy the 150?

    • @SKRUBL0RD
      @SKRUBL0RD 6 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      5 gallons an hour is still around $25 an hour and you can go what, 130 mph and your max range is what 400 miles? A car may be half as slow but it's far cheaper and far safer and you don't need special permissions every time you want to leave and arrive.

  • @damianketcham
    @damianketcham 4 ปีที่แล้ว +51

    Cessna 150/152: taking bird strikes in the rear since the 1950s.

    • @isaacfeinberg4623
      @isaacfeinberg4623 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Lol

    • @wojciechmuras553
      @wojciechmuras553 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      What? Elaborate please.
      EDIT: Oooh, nevermind! lol

    • @lyleswan6671
      @lyleswan6671 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I literally flew one backwards C-150 8355U(ground speed anyway)during private pilot check ride in 95. Really windy day 25 knots gusting to 35 straight down runway that day. Examiner gave me headings and altitudes during foggle or instrument part of practical exam, and said "ok look outside now" I looked at ground and we were flying backwards(in relationship to ground speed). It was pretty freaking cool!

  • @Adam-de8jm
    @Adam-de8jm 6 ปีที่แล้ว +781

    The Cessna 150 is lierally the ford ranger of the sky.

    • @AviationJeremy
      @AviationJeremy 6 ปีที่แล้ว +94

      Well built, light, easy to use and maintain, a solid engine, lasts forever, and discontinued by the manufacturer but still going strong... you aren't far off!

    • @mwh82108
      @mwh82108 6 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      mango ford rangers suck! they wont pull jetski. fix or repair daily ford!

    • @blackdeath4eternity
      @blackdeath4eternity 6 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      i didn't think you had to pull the fenders off a Cessna to change spark plugs?...

    • @ok-hd4so
      @ok-hd4so 5 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      i used to tow a 16 foot fiberglass bass boat with a ranger

    • @russwilson2305
      @russwilson2305 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      A Ford Ranger steers like a pig.

  • @bruceruttan60
    @bruceruttan60 6 ปีที่แล้ว +71

    This is a well done presentation. Well written, very good camera work and the speaker does a fine job. The information is accurate and thoughtful and overall, it's close to a five, out of five.

  • @craigresponds2504
    @craigresponds2504 6 ปีที่แล้ว +243

    Anything made in the 70's will have maint costs. It's part of the fun. Think positive, be happy, live life. I was made in the '60's and I have maint. costs too!!

    • @randyfarris2645
      @randyfarris2645 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      craig responds a

    • @alfonsom8286
      @alfonsom8286 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @john wayne gacey , lmao

    • @videorowtv5198
      @videorowtv5198 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ok boomer

    • @cw93711
      @cw93711 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Aircraft have annuals on maintenance each year so they are in pretty good shape. Plus he left off on on any aircraft you buy you have a certified aircraft mechanic power plant and airframe go over the entire aircraft and then a commercial pilot certified in that model of plane fly it to make sure their are no issues. Yes it's 1000 to 2000 dollars depending on where the plane is but better then buying a hunk of noon flying junk

    • @lyleswan6671
      @lyleswan6671 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      amen brother!!

  • @doranjaffas9645
    @doranjaffas9645 6 ปีที่แล้ว +234

    There are many viable aircraft out there for an average man or woman to afford IF they really want to. These include factory as well as homebuilt aircraft. For the sake of perspective I will define 'average" by my standards..$35,000.00 -$50,000.00.
    Flying does not have to be expensive but it take money and priority. It is not like so many " hobbies" that you can set aside and the expense goes away.
    Entry level license will take from $ 4K to 10K. This can be paid over time throughout training.This is a basic license. Add endorsements and rating and up you go expense wise all the way around in the form of staying current.
    A basic but good airplane can be had for the previously mentioned prices and go waaay up to infinity but again we are talking about average income pilots doing thus for personnel reasons..not commercial.
    If you have an airplane...metal or fabric covered...hangar it. A lot of folks tie down outside but over a much shorter period of time wear results and that cost more than hangar rent in the long run.
    Also..amature built does not necessarily mean less expensive in any form though if you are familiar with how an airplane is built or are willing to learn..their cost can be offset to varying degrees.
    ALL aircraft require maintenance..no exceptions.
    Let's do a break down of sorts.
    Aircraft .. $22,000.00
    Hangar....$100.00 to $300.00 per month.
    Fuel....... $3.00 to $6.00 per gallon...5 to 10 gph fuel burn.
    Oil...$3.00 to $8.00 per quart
    General maintenance on tires..brakes..engine...airfeame can be from $15.09 per hour to over $50.09 per hour depending on different factors such as engine manufacturer..time on engine and airframe..care from previous owners etc. These figures include fixed expenses for yearly aircraft inspections.
    Flight review every 2 years.. $209.00 to $500.00 ( high side).
    These are basic rounded figures and that being said..will scare a lot of people...Now..to justify them...sort of.
    If you want to fly...how passionate are you?
    Instead of a moderately priced car...there is your airplane...instead of smoking and Friday nights..there is your hangar and maintenance....instead of eating out everyday for work...pack a lunch and snacks ..there is your flight time.
    If you have other hobbies that you don't want to give up to fly then you have made your decision and that is good for you. If you have some interests that you are willing to cut back on it trade for your desire to fly...then you might just find a whole new world of perspective of family and friends that share your passion and will change your life and experiences forever.
    Welcome to the clouds, flyin breakfasts, new horizons, sunsets and sunrises. WELCOME TO FLYING.

    • @kalmian
      @kalmian 6 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Doran Jaffas Well said Sir! Well said.

    • @doranjaffas9645
      @doranjaffas9645 6 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Kal Mian Forgot I wrote that. Thanks. The 09 was supposed to be 00. type error but again.. thanks.
      I flew my Cygnet SF2A this past Sunday. First flight since December here in Michigan. Still can't get the grin off my face😀😀😀

    • @carloko08
      @carloko08 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      waaaa, dude, you convinced me, I will buy my plane in the future, but its engine will be electric, I do not want fuel or oil or dammed maintenance crap in my plane

    • @ninthcloud6331
      @ninthcloud6331 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Wow my guy. I'm 28 and this is a goal for me by 35. Holy carp! This comment truly inspires me. I don't have a license yet but your few words really put this in perspective for me and the sky ahead. I appreciate it. And I'm excited to begin discovering the great blue yander!

    • @steved.1698
      @steved.1698 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you. Now I certainly will buy a plane!

  • @jpfinneran
    @jpfinneran 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Very helpful, well spoken, clear and knowledgeable. Must watch for new/interested ga aircraft seekers

  • @Michaelengelmann
    @Michaelengelmann 4 ปีที่แล้ว +254

    What does that mean, "its forgiving"
    Me: *hits plane out of rage
    Me: " oh, I'm so sorry baby"
    Plane: "it's ok, I forgive you". *. *It’s a joke

    • @jammer3618
      @jammer3618 4 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      I will assume this is an honest question. It means if you screw up as a pilot, the plane is easier to recover.

    • @KerbalChris
      @KerbalChris 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      It means the plane wants to correct itself, this is because of the stable nature of high wing designs also you won’t need the extra maintenance on fuel pumps because the fuel can flow fine using gravity

    • @L0stEngineer
      @L0stEngineer 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Both Cessna 172 and Cessna 152 are statically and dynamically stable. If you are in a bad spot, let go of the controls and the plane will sort itself. In other words, the plane isn't trying to kill you.

    • @tianzining
      @tianzining 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Thanks for the question and all the comments. I thought it was my English problem. Now I’m totally understand.

    • @mdynasty8219
      @mdynasty8219 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Me: that damage is beyond allowable limits per 43.13.-1A/1B and Amm. Thats gonna cost ya

  • @1aday2008
    @1aday2008 6 ปีที่แล้ว +72

    Nice video. I have a C150 and upgraded it to be IFR because of Northern California weather. After owning it for 18 years, I am considering selling due to health. It was nice to see your video and makes me wish for my younger days.

    • @appleanthony
      @appleanthony 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      P and S how much were you thinking about selling it for? A few of my buddies were thinking about buying a C150 for flight training and time building.

    • @1aday2008
      @1aday2008 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Its worth about 26k. Has about 100hrs SMOH. Full IFR. I would like to get 20k. I have invested over 30k in avionics and engine overhaul. prosharealty at gmail com

    • @1aday2008
      @1aday2008 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      anime equals douchebag. Email is in above post. We will consider. As the video shows these are great planes.

    • @lawrencehenson8494
      @lawrencehenson8494 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@1aday2008 still have it? lehenson@msn com

  • @keegansponholz9260
    @keegansponholz9260 6 ปีที่แล้ว +79

    Heck Yes! Can't go wrong with a 150/152. I did all of my private training in a 1976 152 and I fell in love with it. Great little airplanes.

    • @747-pilot
      @747-pilot 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Yes, I will gladly second that!!! Did my training in a 1978 152. In some ways, I like it more than the school's 4 172s. They have a 2006 172SP, which I've flown a few times with an instructor, and it feels like I'm getting into a Rolls Royce with expensive leather, after having flown the 152! 😃 .....but still the lighter, "crisper" 152 feels like more "fun" and "nimble" to fly!

    • @DFX2KX
      @DFX2KX 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      The only aircraft I ever got to actually fly (Young Eagles back in the day) was a 150. You can be pretty short and still see over the instrument panel, which is nice! (alas, the eyes are junk, so I can't get a PPL)

  • @lunarsolis8109
    @lunarsolis8109 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    I’ve been playing Microsoft Flight Simulator 2020 and now I want a Cessna 172

  • @theoriginalpauly
    @theoriginalpauly 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Good video, thanks for making it! I totally agree about the Grumman: low-wing aircraft just look "cooler" (more aggressive, faster, sportier) than high-wing aircraft. I think I prefer the look of the Piper, but the Grumman has a really distinctive look, so I can understand someone preferring it over the Piper.

  • @kevinhall5645
    @kevinhall5645 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    We just bought a Piper Warrior II for 35K but it had a Garmin 430. Awesome plane for us to build time in. Love your videos great job!

  • @madlyawww
    @madlyawww 6 ปีที่แล้ว +360

    Just go to your local airport...... A lot of airports sell used aircraft. At my local airport there is a 152 for 11,000.

    • @carlosdanger4648
      @carlosdanger4648 6 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      No Name I live right by the airport when I drive by the airport I see planes at the airport, sometimes the airport airplanes are for sale at the airport

    • @click2viewnow
      @click2viewnow 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      what airport

    • @yougotpassedbyagirl
      @yougotpassedbyagirl 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      wow that's awesome

    • @johnwighton
      @johnwighton 6 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      Yes that is possible. But it will be on condition (engine over 2000 hrs) and probably need avionics or other work. Think $20k as a min for a decent type approves aircraft.

    • @AlphaGolf1
      @AlphaGolf1 6 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      No Name that 152 is probably an unairworthy death trap.

  • @shannonwittman950
    @shannonwittman950 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Great video! The affordability of the zillions of 172's out there, help to keep the prices of 150's and 152's well within reach of community-airport pilots who want their own simple flyabout planes. I wish you'd included the Alon Aircoupe in this list.

  • @arturus
    @arturus 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video. Been dabbling in getting my Sports License and I gotta say, the feeling of flying and landing a plane is amazing!

  • @ballwizz23
    @ballwizz23 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent videos. These types of videos are not normally this well done. But you gave some good options with videos and specs. Thanks!

  • @cyclemanncafe
    @cyclemanncafe 6 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Good video, Mike! Thanks for the effort, look for valid suggestions in comments, ignore mean spirited comments, and please continue to develop your channel.

  • @MrJrbryan
    @MrJrbryan 6 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Mike, I'm not a pilot but love airplanes...your voice and was you describe these aircraft is great...good job..held my interest

  • @chevy8258
    @chevy8258 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    “I would trade my Honda Accord for this airplane any day” had me dying 😂

  • @isaacshultz8128
    @isaacshultz8128 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm building a Sonex and working on my private pilot license! The Sonex is a fantastic plane and I'm glad to see you giving it some spotlight!

  • @0justLook
    @0justLook 6 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Thank You Mike. Your videos are always informative, fair, and unbiased. Keep up the good work. Inspiring one to fly could be life-changing encouragement for some ppl. You may never know how your work changes lives for the better. Ignore, delete, block the haters.
    Also, do you have a video on the Two styles of Sonics? One has a V-Tail, and appears to have a Jet engine??? Or could you make one??

    • @mojogrip
      @mojogrip  6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I'll def try and make one. Constantly checking for owners and builders close to me. Thanks.

    • @cw93711
      @cw93711 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      The jet engine is not a certified engine for the kit.
      Sonex is located in Oshkosh wis home of eaa. It's a great little kit plane. My step father wanted me to build one but I went a different direction.
      They do have a lot of options, even a motor glider if I remember right.

  • @JWH-01
    @JWH-01 6 ปีที่แล้ว +57

    I owned a Cessna 172 for a number of years. It was a blast! I flew it to 14 states. The 172 is easy to fly and is the cheapest way to stay in the air. The fixed gear and fixed prop lowers the maintenance and insurance cost. As others have commented on, yes there are maintenance costs. You can dramatically reduce this cost if you are willing to get your hands dirty. Find a mechanic that does free lance work instead of going to the FBO for your annual inspections. There are plenty of mechanics doing work on the side for extra cash. Do as much maintenance yourself as the FAA allows. It is cheaper and you learn a lot about how the plane is built. This makes you a safer pilot. I fail to understand why fewer people are learning to fly each year. It is much more relaxing and fun to fly your own plane than to drive the interstates or fly commercial.

    • @deweyunknown3745
      @deweyunknown3745 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      John Hempel I would think some of it is the economy the past several years and maybe the millennial factor similar to what’s happening in the motorcycling world. Also stats says large portion of millennials aren’t interested in even getting a drivers license!

    • @nathanmurray2891
      @nathanmurray2891 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Could the average person be able to afford a 172?

    • @jhill6033
      @jhill6033 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      This is a brand new world for me, how much was your insurance?

    • @ryansraven
      @ryansraven 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Barely afford rent these days, no good jobs anymore. I had to sell my motorcycle because I couldn’t afford the insurance anymore. Don’t know if it’s cheaper down in the States or not. But in Ontario, Canada it’s getting to hard.

    • @toadman506
      @toadman506 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Oh yeah, Do your own Oil Changes, get an A/P that will let you do basics, and sign off on it, and for an annual, do all of the Prep work yourself so all the A/P has to do is come in and do the inspection and you save a boatload of money.

  • @dannyjizay
    @dannyjizay 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome video. I just found your channel through a video about your R129. I am looking forward to watching your other videos. Keep up the good work!

  • @chanceg1218
    @chanceg1218 5 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    as an A&P student / Assistant, the 150(2) is crazy easy to do Annuals on.

    • @7478captain
      @7478captain 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      How about the 172?? Just as easy, or at least close??

  • @imthefuckinglizardking4590
    @imthefuckinglizardking4590 6 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    I helped a friend get a little 142 flight worthy and he bought it for 10grand and put about 200 bucks in parts in it. It's got half an old vw bug motor literally a 4cyl boxer cut in half. Pretty crazy

    • @crazylegoarmy
      @crazylegoarmy 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      im thefuckinglizardking lol nice username

    • @Michael-hc6rg
      @Michael-hc6rg 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      i also heard about a guy that built his own WWI replica biplane using a lawnmower engine

  • @josemmontes5810
    @josemmontes5810 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Hey Mike, great video, some people might see some discrepancies like the "over inflated prices" comments however I think that overall your video gives good info.
    My one tip is that although your video is about airplane prices and not maintenance cost you should have mentioned having a little caution with the maintenance needs of these older aircraft and how the price can change drastically depending on how much time is on the engine, actually you might want to do a future video on the hidden cost of buying a plane.

    • @seigeengine
      @seigeengine 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      No. There's really no need to do that at all. The process of getting licensed takes months and thousands of dollars, only to then need to spend tens of thousands on a plane.
      If you're stupid enough to expect a ten minute video to be all you need to know, you're too stupid to make decisions.

  • @jasonnemjo5981
    @jasonnemjo5981 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very cool review. Thanks for taking the time to put this together. It's good to be reminded that you don't have to spend a ton of money to fly.

  • @lordsong7
    @lordsong7 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You have excellent quality reports. Keep up the great work!

  • @Quasihamster
    @Quasihamster 6 ปีที่แล้ว +815

    So no A380 then? Pity...

    • @sergiofreitas9368
      @sergiofreitas9368 6 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      lmao

    • @lukechong4988
      @lukechong4988 6 ปีที่แล้ว +59

      Nah man I was hoping for an F-18 ;)

    • @moeali8181
      @moeali8181 6 ปีที่แล้ว +49

      The A380 is on his next video of planes under $20-000

    • @andy.connor.e8853
      @andy.connor.e8853 6 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      A380 is for poor people.

    • @atexan5449
      @atexan5449 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      No

  • @alexg700f
    @alexg700f 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    0:38 the Cessna 152 is the same thing but more fuel efficient and newer. Oh and it also has a fixed tricycle gear

  • @mongo5054
    @mongo5054 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love this channel! Mike, love how knowledgeable you are. Wish I could meet you!

  • @bigfish7493
    @bigfish7493 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks Mike....you refreshed my Piper Tri-Pacer mind.
    Are they in the same class as a 172?
    Another good point is that these earlier types rolled on grass strips. Some have the larger tires for dirt. I enjoy your narratives. You expose situations that bring hope and ambition to a fresh generation of pilots!

  • @pilotandy_com
    @pilotandy_com 6 ปีที่แล้ว +166

    I got my Warrior for 20k. Sure there are maintenance costs, but I got it for under 30k. And it is SO FUN to fly!

    • @davidakshay7602
      @davidakshay7602 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Andrew Craner is that easy to ride ?? how to get liscence for that bro?

    • @gregorysvitavsky6505
      @gregorysvitavsky6505 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm a welder and thinking about building an airplane... Idk what I'm getting myself into

    • @pilotandy_com
      @pilotandy_com 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      David - The piper warrior is very easy to fly, just get with an instructor and get going! They'll walk you through the entire process. Plan on around $7500 and 2 to 6 months.

    • @pilotandy_com
      @pilotandy_com 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Gregory - Having a welding background will definitely be beneficial, but the majority of an aircraft is riveted together. If I were to build an airplane, I'd go with a Vans RV.
      www.vansaircraft.com/public/rv-building.htm
      Pick the plane you want for the mission you will be flying, and have fun!

    • @Campsnowcactus
      @Campsnowcactus 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Join the Experimental Aircraft Association and you will find out everything you need to know. Go to Oshkosh air show.

  • @keithfreeman5204
    @keithfreeman5204 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    How about this?
    A Sonex with a full, nose to tail, Delta Wing? A lot of square feet of Wing Area and very slippery, maybe retracks? Evelons, rudder, really simple controls.

  • @generalrendar7290
    @generalrendar7290 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wow I never would have thought about Grumman, I really like that plane for the mission of affordable and fast XC flying with good luggage capacity. I'd like it to be IFR capable but I'm really interested in this plane. Thanks Mojo!

  • @Gypsy2057
    @Gypsy2057 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you Mojo, love your videos. You have a very similar attitude toward flying as I had years ago. I might take it up again as I reach retirement age.

  • @nonyabeeznuss304
    @nonyabeeznuss304 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    "I would trade my honda accord for one of these any day"
    driving a honda accord (profuse sweating)

  • @Hobberhawk
    @Hobberhawk 6 ปีที่แล้ว +186

    I actually just bought the exact Warrior in the video. N1776J

    • @0justLook
      @0justLook 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      so how was the video's estimate of cost? Please share with us. Along with unexpected costs?

    • @Hobberhawk
      @Hobberhawk 6 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      0justLook $21,500 for the plane. $8,700 for the IFR radio upgrades.

    • @mothman-jz8ug
      @mothman-jz8ug 6 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      Congrats on getting your own plane, and I wish you many years of safe flying. (I hope you were not in the majority of trolls..Oops, I meant "commenters"... who think the video title said "Airplanes you can buy, maintain, overhaul, insure, and keep fuel in for life under $30,000".)

    • @Hobberhawk
      @Hobberhawk 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Sassy The Sasquatch the little low wing. White with redish orange striping on the body and winga

    • @Slippindisc
      @Slippindisc 6 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Brendan Hobson cool tail number. ‘Murica

  • @PC-vq5ud
    @PC-vq5ud 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Grumman A1AA: Max load about 500LBS. Quirky stall characteristics, have to stay on the power when landing. Designed by Bede before Grumman took it over. Fuel tanks are the main wing spar that is a pipe. Two to 2.5 hour range. Mike, I think your were looking at the specs for the A5AA Traveler. Hard to get for $30K unless it is time to re-engine or similliar additional costs. I do love all the Grumman's looks. They are sporty!!

  • @sirgalahadlives
    @sirgalahadlives 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Your videos are very informative, I wish to extend a great big THANK YOU... keep them coming ... I have a renewed desire to fly.... Rev Trike is what I am focused upon.... can't wait for the company to go electric with the REV TRIKE.... TO LIFE... make it so

  • @irishpilot2006
    @irishpilot2006 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Perhaps on the Grumman the author was confusing an AA1 with a Tiger, the AA1 has 450lbs useful. from review: "The AA1B has a basic useful load of more than 450 pounds. While not great, it beats the rest of the AA1 lineup by 50 to 90 pounds. Produced between 1973 and 1976,"

  • @hogey74
    @hogey74 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    This is true and now is actually the time. The people who bought all the aircraft during the boom from the 50s to the 70s are all ageing out. There are a lot of useful aircraft coming up for sale with a lot of good hours left in them and very good prices. I reckon there will be a mini boom as a result.

  • @maxrudder6091
    @maxrudder6091 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video. Good information. I think another way to address affordability is through non-profit flying clubs. Older folks like me are fond of ownership. I've found that younger generations aren't hooked on personal ownership, and are more into sharing use and expenses. Instead of flying a couple of hours a week, shared airplanes fly much, much more, which makes maintenance less expensive. I'm certain that it's the youngsters who will save general aviation.

  • @sarc88
    @sarc88 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Super informative Mike, thanks!!

  • @tightenyochain856grom6
    @tightenyochain856grom6 6 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Think ill just get a paramotor lol

  • @judsonlero5402
    @judsonlero5402 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    i would recommemd the piper cherokee, it is a very solid plane, easy steering, and lands beautifully

    • @7478captain
      @7478captain 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes, the low wing pipers are supposedly “easier” to fly than even the docile Cessnas. Even though I have my Commercial Pilot Certificate and Instrument rating, with over 400 hours, I have never flown the Pipers (or any low wing aircraft for that matter). All I’ve flown is 172s (M, SP and RG) and 152s

    • @peterbretherton3546
      @peterbretherton3546 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I like low wing better because when landing the wing doesn't block your view while turning like the high wing of the 150/172.

  • @johncorley2393
    @johncorley2393 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Cool video Mike .I had no idea that you could buy a plane for such a affordable price

  • @marioremondino1829
    @marioremondino1829 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    great vid! well spoken, easy to follow and understand!

  • @joeb.5020
    @joeb.5020 6 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    150 or 172 depending on student/instructor fatniss

  • @xzqzq
    @xzqzq 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I learned to fly on a 150... the aerobatic version would be interesting... prefer taildraggers.

  • @gordonedwards2356
    @gordonedwards2356 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for making and posting this video.

  • @RealLifeFinance
    @RealLifeFinance 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Really informative - thank you.

  • @wheelswingsnstrings523
    @wheelswingsnstrings523 6 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Why all the negative comments? If you choose not to fly or learn to fly, it’s up to you? Flying and owning an older airplane is really no more expensive than buying a new Harley touring bike, a cheap sports car or racing at a local track.
    Guys don’t whine about the cost of owning, modifying or maintaining those things, and they sure don’t calculate cost per hour of riding and drinking.
    Be smart about your purchase, find a mechanic to work with, learn and make your fun affordable and safe.

  • @tyronealfonso
    @tyronealfonso 5 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    “Brain starmer” lol

    • @InventorInvestor
      @InventorInvestor 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      He says the same in other videos.

    • @mooseknuckle_4474
      @mooseknuckle_4474 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Came here to say this. Like dude......how? How do you get this one so wrong. Lol.
      Otherwise good video

  • @LayOffiKnoTaeBo
    @LayOffiKnoTaeBo 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very informative; thanks for the great content, keep up the good work!

  • @exhale85
    @exhale85 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    thanks for the video, mate! useful tips for picking out my first craft!

  • @yummyumsOG
    @yummyumsOG 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Thanks mike. :)

  • @Araye
    @Araye 6 ปีที่แล้ว +359

    I don't understand the hate you receive. I think this video does exactly what it claims to do, gives five examples of planes you can pick up for $30k.
    "But what about maintenance??? RRRRRRRRRRREEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!"
    I don't even understand this argument. Anyone in the market knows used aircraft aren't like used cars off some dealer's lot and will require some additional costs to make the bird airworthy. SMH

    • @remihumanantium3282
      @remihumanantium3282 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Well, I neither don't understand. However, the same video including yearly budget (even approximately) would be great. I already have the $30,000 but how much should I save for an average operating budget, saying 2 h a week?

    • @evandickson19
      @evandickson19 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Araye “REEEEEE” 😂😂

    • @jhmcglynn
      @jhmcglynn 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Buying the airplane is the least expense. The annual fixed costs for my Kitfox was $3600 for hangar, about $1200 for insurance, and about $900 for the annual condition inspection. You can mitigate some of these costs. For example at our glider club we purchased a full A/C covers since we have to store them outside. Those cost about $1500 a set. Insurance for tail draggers is more expensive. My last owner assisted annual cost me a good bottle of wine as a gift for my A&P hangar mate.

    • @danielwillets2346
      @danielwillets2346 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Brainstormer? You mean barnstormers?

    • @connorvaughn7968
      @connorvaughn7968 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I can tell you're between the age of 9 and 15, because you say "Reeee".....

  • @ev-ezaye3580
    @ev-ezaye3580 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is awesome info! Super stoked!!

  • @JR-ms4hl
    @JR-ms4hl ปีที่แล้ว

    Love your videos! Very informative & interesting.

  • @abbozzz5483
    @abbozzz5483 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I'll trade my accord for a plane anyday 😂

    • @AQ-101
      @AQ-101 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      :-$

  • @jameshauser1507
    @jameshauser1507 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Nice video thank you for making this. But please, please. It is Barnstormer---not, Brain-stormer.

  • @louisdesclee7047
    @louisdesclee7047 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey Mike!
    I love your content, especially when you compare airplanes. I'm just asking, I am very interested in an in-depth video about the Sonnex Waiex-b, the famous 30 000$ airplane kit.
    Keep the awesome content!
    Louis

  • @craigwi1412
    @craigwi1412 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have at one time or another many budget airplanes but the ones I always like was the Gruman or the Cessna 177 both are sporty and fast for the lower cost airplanes and usually get the 177 for less than the 172.

  • @archktik
    @archktik 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    very nice videogot some tips

  • @michaeljenkins6682
    @michaeljenkins6682 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    What about airplanes like a Pitts.. smith mini... baby Great Lakes.. sorry I just really love cheap small biplanes

    • @cw93711
      @cw93711 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Pitts will be over 50k minimum.
      Their is one fully acrobatic 2 seat with a canopy that will be around 30 to 35k but I can't think of name of company

  • @Snowwhite33142
    @Snowwhite33142 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice! Very cool, thank you for sharing!

  • @ze_german2921
    @ze_german2921 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good Job on the Video! Been wanting to become a Pilot for a while but all the unknown Cost been holding me off. I like the Experimental planes cause I can trailer it and park it at my garage. You should do a Overhead cost comparison between Experimental vs Certified or Pro and Cons

  • @mojogrip
    @mojogrip  6 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Part II. 5 Personal Airplanes You Can Buy For Less Than $20,000 th-cam.com/video/Xi1sy93c_Xg/w-d-xo.html

  • @greatbritishscarface7464
    @greatbritishscarface7464 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    You didn’t include the Piper J3 Cub.

    • @cw93711
      @cw93711 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Or kitfox

    • @burn3874
      @burn3874 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      And you missed the Midget Mustang.

  • @HGVMe
    @HGVMe 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice video bro. Gives everyone something to aspire to. Thanks for sharing.

  • @AVPfan360pro
    @AVPfan360pro 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video Mike! All great options!

  • @rocketplayz5834
    @rocketplayz5834 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Ummm ill just make my own homemade airplane

  • @mothman-jz8ug
    @mothman-jz8ug 6 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    The comments are sickening. It matters not what is said, the trolls HAVE to pouince on it with derision. He says "initial investment" and all the trolls - poor, sick human being who must downgrade everything and everyone just to make themselves appear "superior" (in their own eyes) - start with the "what about maintenance" and so on. Too dumb to even understand the words they hear, but the are so smart (in their pathetic little minds) that they have to tell everything "wrong". Disgusting bunch of negative people... LOOK AT THE TITLE: "5 Personal Airplanes You Can Buy For Less Than $30,000". It does NOT say "Airplanes you can buy, overhaul, maintain, put fuel in, and insure for life under $30,000"!!!!!!!!!!!

  • @ilovefreedoom
    @ilovefreedoom 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love your channel, my dude. Thanks for all you do!

  • @mahdiyussuf9804
    @mahdiyussuf9804 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for the video. Cool info!

  • @Karen-lc8be
    @Karen-lc8be 6 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    "C E S S N A I S M O M ' S C A R"

  • @futurenepaldevlopment2657
    @futurenepaldevlopment2657 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Plz make video for jet engines too

  • @wmuengineer
    @wmuengineer 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The lease back idea is game changing from a financial perspective. Thanks for sharing that detail.

  • @learnerchris
    @learnerchris 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I learned on the Grumman and loved it!

  • @robertschumann9059
    @robertschumann9059 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    What about the ercoupe?

  • @joshuawesley9015
    @joshuawesley9015 6 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    The three “F” rule. If it Flies, Floats or F*cks, RENT IT! Trust me, I’m an aircraft mechanic.

    • @zrbbg9639
      @zrbbg9639 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      "F*ucks"
      You have my trust

    • @donalain69
      @donalain69 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      wise mans words.. wish I had read that before I married 🙄

    • @lyleswan6671
      @lyleswan6671 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      dude is not even lying!

  • @cray0308
    @cray0308 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great channel. Lots of good information. Subbed.

  • @dave1ahc
    @dave1ahc 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good morning I stumbled on your video this morning and it was very fun to watch. I was wondering though why you thought the Cessna family of aircraft was just as forgiving as the low-wing Cherokee. I’m thinking that maybe if you took your original training in the Cessna that you felt that way because the low wings very easy to fly but I did the reverse I learned in Cherokee first and then I had to take my check right in Cessna and it took me an extra several hours to get used to the stall characteristics of it anyway it was great to see your video I hope you do some more!

  • @ronjohnson303
    @ronjohnson303 6 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Leaseback is a bad idea, students are very hard on airplanes and guess who pays for the maintenance

    • @Gypsy2057
      @Gypsy2057 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I'm using a 152 for example but I'd set up a per hours leaseback at 80% of what the school charges, figure the annual + engine time and work out the cost per hour. The school keeps the tank full and add in the oil changes exc, so for example you come up with $40/hr cost, charge $45/hr. Should be close if you add in everything. Payment 400/month, overhaul 2,000 hours $15,000 so say $10/hr for motor use, go through everything.

  • @suhdude9775
    @suhdude9775 6 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    no ac-130? cheap and affordable

  • @learnerchris
    @learnerchris 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I started super cub but flew my first cross country solo flying on a Grumman and I loved it!

  • @Allan62T
    @Allan62T 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent video with info I'm going to use in the future!. Subbed. Thanks. Tman..

  • @spiro5327
    @spiro5327 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    You say that if you can afford a brand new Honda then you can afford to own your own plane. The only problem is that these planes are not new. They are probably 40 to 50 years old and and just like an old car you will be constantly pouring money into the old bird. The reality is that GA aircraft are not affordable. Bring the cost of a brand-new Cessna 172 down to less than 100k and then you can say it's affordable or at least for some people anyway.

    • @jaroslavsevcik3421
      @jaroslavsevcik3421 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You didn't get Spiro's idea. Paying today a price of NEW honda for an OLD aircraft brings you more problems tomorrow and it will drain your wallet quickly. How many people buy old cars for a daily usage? Almost none because they know those cars limits including lack of spare parts. So this is the same with aircraft. Plus driving a car actually hasn't changed too much but FAA/ICAO rules and requirement for flying have. So buying an old aircraft needs often some upgrades which increases the final price of the bird.

    • @seigeengine
      @seigeengine 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Irrelevant. Aircraft need to be maintained nigh-religiously, whereas most cars are abused and neglected to the point they're scrap in 10-20 years. You are making excuses to complain. Grow up.

  • @h7pubg
    @h7pubg 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    9:19 wait that doesn’t look like it sits 2

    • @amaanmahammad2296
      @amaanmahammad2296 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      one on the top of the cockpit

    • @brandonhebert5485
      @brandonhebert5485 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      He actually shows the entire line of Sonex aircraft. The Sonex, Waiex, Zenos and SubSonex. You won't find that jet powered Sonex for under 100,000 big ones. You also show the Onex, the one with folding wings. That only holds one person.

  • @zamsoniteb8306
    @zamsoniteb8306 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    This vid made me wanna fly again. Living in Europe (Sweden) I used to pay a lot to fly 45 min in a Cessna 150 or Piper PA-28. The aircrafts were all from the 60s or 70s. If I was living in the U.S. I would definately get one of those and share costs with other pilots. Thanks for the great vid.

  • @shitsugane
    @shitsugane 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You have the best videos, and the best voice!

  • @call911forcookies2
    @call911forcookies2 6 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    This is all true; but guys, remeber, these fixed costs are the smallest amounts in your investment. Maintenance is pricey ;O

    • @brandonhebert5485
      @brandonhebert5485 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I happen to hold an A&P license. Should that help the cost a bit?

    • @гига-нигга
      @гига-нигга 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      no shit maintanence is pricey, anyone buying an aircraft knows that

  • @LeftSeatAdventures
    @LeftSeatAdventures 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This was one of the many MANY videos I watched before I bought my Sonex. And much less than $30k at that, but I also got a project. Since the B models came out, flying legacy ones are easily going $20k-30k. Old Cessna prices continue to rise in this market. Add the much cheaper maintenance and operating costs of experimental and it's #winwinwin . Thanks for all the info!

  • @dama_shares
    @dama_shares 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very informative!!! Thank You!