Fenix makes Quality Flashlights! But.....
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- Fenix is always sooo close to perfect...but...little things.
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I was a Streamlight fanboy for many years until I bought my first Fenix. I now own 4 of their flashlights and 2 headlamps. I think what you really need is the PD36R. It has the 5000 mAh battery and pretty crazy run times. 1600lumen/2.5hr - 800/6hr - 350/8.5hr - 150/26hr - 30/115hr. And it has a better pocket clip. Not raised and reversable and carries deeper. The E20 V2.0 is also great. two AA batteries and it has a 5-lumen lowlight mode that last 200hr. I mostly use the lower settings and I bought the battery charger, so I don't open the rubber flap to charge at all. I just keep a couple spare batteries charged and swap them.
Even if you lose the rubber cover, the light is internally waterproofed on this model. Is it better not to lose the cover? Sure. But it's internally protected, which most aren't.
I replaced my department issue flashlights with Fenix and they've been going strong for over 7 years now of daily duty use.
I believe the rubber cover primarily serves to block dirt and debris from entering the charging port. In fact, you can remove the cover and still maintain an IPX8 level of protection.
Thanks for the review! Fenix has been a brand I've been interested in. I bought the ThruNite BSS v5 and do like its features when I'm out with the dogs at night. So far I haven't had any issues with the BSS - knock on wood.
In the Military I used Surefire lights, and I have a few to say the least. As a Cop I used Streamlight, and I have a few of them, but A friend turned me onto Fenix lights, and I like the lights a lot. Fenix was the first rechargeable LED light I had ever purchased, the quality, brightness, and dependability are at another level. I never looked back at the others now, because 132a batteries are expensive, and I usually have 3 flashlights with me at all times, I keep a E136R on my belt, E18R in my pocket, and an OLIGHT i1R 2 on my key chain. I live in the mountains, and when it gets dark, I don’t want to be attacked by a pig, a mountain lion, or a bear.
8:20 The battery number indicates the diameter and length in millimeters. 18650 = 18mm diameter and 65mm length while 21700 = 21mm diameter and 70mm length. The larger battery essentially means higher capacity.
18650 implies an 18mm diameter and a 65mm body length. 21700 implies a 21mm diameter and a 70mm body length. Bigger size means more capacity, all else being equal
Yup, and the final number indicates the shape (with '0' being the classic cylinder shape).
EDC’d a PD35 TAC for over half a decade. Once I modded it for a deep carry clip, it was damn near perfect.
Great video. I'm somebody who always manages to turn on my lights by accident in my backpack/pocket, so I actually like the interface because my E18RV2 is the only light I have that doesn't turn on when I don't want it to.
That is a real problem. I never use lockout, so moreso for me. I believe the lockout is merely a bandaid that renders the light useless. When I need a light, I don't need to be wasting time going through an unlock procedure. To me, this is a UI issue, a switch issue, and a carry issue.
After experiencing this 3 times in a year, I was just done with that flashlight. After each instance, I tried to remedy the situation. The solution was to change flashlights.
In general, I do like the black/copper colors of the Fenix flashlights.
the new nitecore mh12pro is very interesting with their new LED tech. Puts out 3300 lumens in a small package. Hope to see a review on it.
It's on the way
I will appreciate a long range test video of both PD35R and E35R.
I dont use rechargeable flashlights, but i use rechargeable batteries in my inspection light. It gived me the option to use alkalines in a pinch.
I have the TK16, which has the dual tail switch operation. And i do love the tail swicth part. Click the main button to turn on, and secondary button to cycle.
However i do agree that it would be nice to choose to go in at low. Because when i use it, i always turn it on against my shirt or something because i dont know what modebit was on last.
TK20R UE would be your choice or the TK40. Direct output choice it is👍
My interest in Fenix peaked a couple of years ago. I have lost interest in most of their lights because the low modes are not low enough. Many of the flashlights won't take flat top batteries. I'm not a single control E-switch fan boy and most everyone is moving in that direction. Fenix seems to be hung on the Luminous SST LEDs which the ones they are using have greenish-yellowish tint. The Headlamps on/off mode function is backwards from most everyone else. I looked real hard to buy a Fenix light this Black Friday and just couldn't get excited on anything. I know they have good quality and good regulated drivers, but I just could not find anything that knocked my socks off without some issue that bugged me. The only light of Fenix that I like right now is the E12 V2. And I gift a lot of those. The E20 V2 is too green because it uses.......an SST20. The E12 does not.
The perfect solution is Nextorch TA series,Nitecore SRT 6i or Acebeam P16 user interface. Direct access to low or turbo on dedicated button - dial ring.
The TA15 ant TA20 are some of my favorite flashlights.
I have their pd35 is awesome.
But the button is easy to accidentally press, it set my man bag on fire twice already.
If you want a low cost, no frills solution, get a Convoy S2 with SFT40. It's the poor man's PD35😂
I have been having the LR35R in my watch spot for so long it’s gone up in price. It seems like the perfect all around flashlight for me, I’m just not sure if it’s worth that much money. It’s almost $200. Any thoughts?
Have you seen the video about Olights QC? It is pretty impressive. :)
My last two Olights were dead within a month.
@@FreedomFox1 😳
Hopefully fenix see this video
Dunno. Fenix releases a deeply flawed product; when they release a revision, it's invariably worse. They need to start with one good flashlight. Watching this video would only lead them in the wrong direction.
1:34 pretty sure I can literally hear your brain working to process what you’re saying lol ⚙️🤯
How many lumens is the full moon?
try out da 36tac
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There are none going atm, but basically you just fill out a Google form on the website maxlvledc.com
The Fenix 36R's UI is a deal breaker for me for the very reason you state. I sure wish Fenix would fix this issue.
The Thrunite TN12 Pro's button isn't a deal breaker, at least I get moonlight and turbo when I need it.
Olight lost me with proprietary batteries and chargers.
I'll keep choosing Thrunite until Fenix fixes this issue.
I think the biggest issue is the pocket clip.
Fenix makes the PD series as tactical lights, and they're only kind of mediocre as tactical lights BECAUSE! a proper tactical light should only have a single mode.
If I have a light that I'm ever going to use for an actual "tactical" purpose it should have one mode that I know it will ALWAYS come on in that mode no matter what I do. That mode should be defined as this: the most lumens AND candela that the light can sustain for as long as practically possible.
There is no such thing as one perfect light for every scenario, you should either have multiple modes OR a tactical flashlight. A tactical flashlight is not an EDC flashlight and they CAN NOT fill the other's roles properly.
In any kind of true tactical situation i want ALL THE LIGHT and nothing else, if I'm doing something administrative like taking notes, searching for keys or reading a map I'll grab a seperate light, but a tactical light should never try to be an EDC light because every new function you add to a tactical light makes it worse at being a tactical light.
The PD32V2 is probably the best tactical light fenix makes because it has only 3 modes (4 if you count strobe) and you can set it to high mode and never leave high mode IF you're careful to not change the mode accidentally, and the strobe mode is hidden and easy to never stumble into.
The only three things I want from a tactical light: POWER, durability, and a clicky&momentary tailswitch!
the things i DON'T want in a tactical light: multiple modes,
multiple switches,
zoom function,
Strobe.
ANYTHING that isn't the three things I mentioned.
Any light with a "zoom" function is an automatic fail for ANY kind of use for me, it's fiddly, its unreliable, and it's NEVER on the setting you want it on when you grab it.
Multiple modes I can live with IF the modes are easily hidden or blocked or otherwise unobtrusive.
Strobe I can likewise live with IF I can ignore it entirely, it's terrible for any kind of defensive use because its almost as distracting and disorienting to the user as it is the attacker, but it CAN be useful for signaling or getting someone's attention.
Multiple switches are a double whammy of fail because it's all the problems of the multi mode issue AND the zoom issue, it's fiddly, its distracting, and under stress it's all too easy to accidentally hit the wrong switch.
Weltool makes the best bang-for-buck no frills tactical light with the T8 PLUS TAC, because it has great lumen and candela output, goes directly to max output every time, is tough as nails, and is right around $120 US.
Modlite, Cloud Defensive, Surefire, Streamlight (streamlight typically lacks in raw output, but they're not bad) and now Weltool make the only lights I'd ever actually trust with my life because they make a TRUE tactical light.
EDC or administrative lights are not compatible with tactical usage and manufacturers need to stop trying to combine them because they make no one happy by doing so. EDC users are upset by the "tactical-ness" limiting their raw utility, and tactical users are upset with the lights being too complex for simple usage.
I have EDC lights with all kinds of modes, but I would never EVER grab one if I were a cop going on patrol or a soldier on deployment, or a citizen looking for a self defense tool. Fighting is incredibly stressful and K.I.S.S. is the order of the day under stress.
I didn't really mean to type out a novel, but I can't bring myself to erase any of it because it all makes sense in the context of my original statement (at least it doesn in my head) but this isn't an attack on you or anyone, moreso just a wish for manufacturers to seperate their flashlight styles because it would make everyone happier. EDC guys could have super duper multifunctional lights with every mode their heart desires, and Tactical users could have a smorgasbord of incredibly well-made, truly tactical lights that meet their particular need.
TL:DR light manufacturers should seperate their lights into true EDC lights, "dumb" EDC lights for newer users or thos who just like a more "basic" UI, and true single mode tactical lights that are reliable, dependable, and above all simple while still being powerful.
I wish more companies would copy olight. I love that my batan 2 or pro max can turn on to moonlight mode with a long press. Or it remembers your last main setting with a short press. I also love the magnetic charging. I'm not sure I like USB c connectors with only a rubber cap. I don't want it wearing and my flashlight leaking.
Olight is terrible during emergency situations. You can’t remember their stupid ui when an accident just happened or bullets are flying. Basically any stressful situation I found myself pushing every button but the one that makes it work. Half press full press hold press two clicks nope. Give me a clicky switch with no priority charging system. Standard is now usb type c. And that is what everyone should use.
They are good lights, but for the price, it is a hard pass. They are overpriced for what you get
That depends entirely on what light you get and what you're looking for.
My PD32V2 was an excellent buy for me at $60 and notably more affordable than anything remotely comparable when balancing the output and UI.
people complain about the PD32V2 saying it needs a moonlight mode, or it needs whatever, but honestly I'd love it even more than I do right now if it only had one mode and cost appropriately less for a simple on/off switch for 1200lm & 40,000cd and nothing else.
The Weltool T8 PLUS TAC is my favorite though because it IS a simple on/off with only one mode of 2180lm & 100,000cd
A tactical light needs to be simple, powerful, and durable. No extra modes, no strobe, no double switches or double presses. That stuff is for the EDC crowd and they're not the same people and they don't like the same products.
As trash as their UI is, it's pretty common on the cheaper Chinese brands too. It's easy to understand and cheap, and that's why they use it. A lot of people who just want 'flashlight' like it. It is a shame, because Fenix does make some good stuff. I'd never buy or carry one though because of the terrible UI. I generally hate memory modes in general. I want shortcuts for everything. Olight comes the closest with their Warriors.
What brand you use??
@@muhdizai Olight, Emisar, and Cloud Defensive for handheld. Mostly Streamlight for weapon mounted. Looking a a CD Rein 3.0 for my next rifle build.
@@muhdizaiSurefire. Even the Chinese military uses Surefire.
@@bruceli9094 how do you know???
@@DJ_CRIZP but the price little bit quality Chinese flashlight is consider to buy to me
thousands of us have been asking fenix to install moon modes for many years now but they absolutley refuse and its freakin absolutley lame!! Listen to your customers fenix!!!
I don’t have a need for flashlight, I find torches do a better job
You don't need toilet paper, you find corn husks, do a better job! 😅
Fenix lights are so overpriced. Don't get me wrong, they are nice, well-made lights, but their margins are so large it's sickening. The nice manual doesn't justify their prices. It's the epitome of American greed. I sold them for years at a well-known outdoor retailer and know many of their sales reps. I've had this discussion with them many times.
Same with their bicycle lights.
@@soundknight yep, same. I sold those as well.
'American Greed' well, they're a Chinese company soooo 😂 Communist Greed actually.
Rather than maglite flashlight 😂
Nah, the epitome of American greed would be the wars and Wall Street bailouts. You can always buy a different flashlight.
I agree on the pocket clips being bad. The Fenix UI is terrible! Full stop. Fenix fit and finish is acceptable. Unfoftunately, the Fenix design is very bad. 2 tail buttons? Can't tail stand? A useless side button? Weak magnet? Strobe?
Let's talk about runtime. You made your claim. In testing, I compared the Fenix PD36R to tge Olight Warrior M2R Pro both on fully-charged 21700 batteries for their own brand. The Fenix stepped down from 1,600 lumens with 283 meters' range to dead more quickly than the Olight stepped down from a greater 1,800 lumens with 300 meters'range. I chose the Olight, because you mentioned it. Time and anain, the Fenix flashlights fail--at just about everything. Based on Fenix's published specs, I expected better, but was sorely disappointed. Based on reviews, I was disappointed. Facts matter.
Oh, yes, the instruction sheet. Well, no idea what happened to those. Probably in a box somewhere. Ultimately, the instruction/spec sheets only light up the dark if they're on fire. If you need an instruction manual, the UI must really suck. If they have to tell you the specs, they must not be able to show you. Next time your Fenix light fails you or comes up short, be sure to have that spec sheet handy, to show how the Fenix was SUPPOSED to work. Yep, writing on paper always counts for more than facts!
You did not mention, but how about the laughable Fenix carry case? Utter junk!
Overall, junk! "Quality" must factor the entire package. Fenix has one tiny piece that is OK; everything else is sub-par. The Fenix is a loser, almost across the board.
I am unable to find a use case that Fenix doesn't sabotage.
Olight does have a better UI, but has its own issues.
Strobe is a stipud hazard. Think about it. If you were a bad person, and someone shone a strobe light at you, the strobe would be annoying. You would shoot that person, ignore the strobe, and do whatever you were going to do. Yep, big help. You could always hope that the bad guy is a bad shot. Maybe that would work.
People claim the strobe is disorienting. To test, I tried hitting quarters at 10 feet, placed as heart or head. I hit 9 of 10. That was my same score, with the same gun and ammo, without the strobe. Yep, big help.
You mentioned the stribe being effective on wild animzls. Where do you get this? Have you ever actually tested the strobe? No? I have. Tested on rabbid animals. No effect. Tested on a coyote. No effect. I had to retreat. Tested on a fox. Well, it was curious. Tested on a leopard. The leopard destroyed my shelter. Tested on a deer. Well, running deer keep running, paused deer stay paused. Maybe slightly confused. Tested on a moose. The moose destroyed my truck. Maybe the strobe irritated it. Tried testing on birds. No flying birds (raptors) fell from the sky, or changed course. Groudhog? Well it charged. Inconclusive on if the strobe caused this or not. Tested on a hostile pit bull. It attacked. Tested on a hostile German Shephard. It attacked. Strobe value? Well, if you want to initiate an attack, the strobe will do it. I have not tested on snakes, squirrels, rabbits, apes, bears, otters, fish, or gators. Still in the works. No plans to test on elephants, mongeese, lions, or badgers. You'd be better off carrying a gun, but no bullets.
All else being equal, if Fenix and Olight were the options, I'd pick the Olight, 10/10--and I'm not a fan of the ugly blue OR cool white light.
You did not mention that the Fenix batteries die in a few months while in the flashlight. Olight lights, on the other hand, do not self-discharge their batteries at an accelersted light. Must be an issue with the Fenix cintrollers. Another Fenix quality fail.
You did not mention a Fenix design issue that caused the end caps to keep coming loose. Another Fenix fail. That could well be a fit and finish issue.
You have actually used these flashlights, right?
Maybe this was another rushed video. Or, maybe there was an agenda. Either way, you can do better. I don't exprct you to be an expert on everything, but you really hurt your brand when you make a video with a high fiction to fact ratio.
This video was a lot of talk, but not much show--for a reason, I'm thinking.
You said fenix and olight arent any good. Whats better for the price. When you want to trash something or someone then you need to do better and give us what you THINK is better. You offered nothing but negativity and not one solution. That means you are unreliable and want to see your words in print and nothing else
@@rickomey2546 Wrong, wrong, and wrong. You know what they say about assumptions...
Maybe reading comprehension is not your strong suit. I stated facts about what was in the video. I am not pushing any products. Had I mentioned a product, you--or someone else--would likely have accused me of that, or of some other nonsense; instead, I offered facts, which should help an intelligent person make a decision. I have no obligation to solve your problems, and my counter-points are not negativity. I have no idea what your specific problems are. There is no one size fits all. I have a solution that suits me. It is not perfect, but the best I've found for my purposes, for now. Some things are custom; you can't just buy them.
I actually put a lot of time and effort into both my testing and the information in my post. I will not do your thinking for you.
As far as the rest of what you said, well, it's very telling about the kind of person YOU are. Your post has literally "nothing but negativity and not one solution." Basically, you did what you accused me of doing. In your own words, "you are unreliable and want to see your words in print and nothing else." Do you THINK?
I didnt say any product was good or bad you did and you didnt say what was better. You put up your own "facts" based on your opinion. You said it in your reply to me that everyone is different. So what you said isnt "fact" its opinion. I didnt trash or endorse anything like you did. I can find more people that endorse fenix and olight that are reputable and not some troll endorsing a ficticious product to show mommy that people do like him and will communicate with him. Bet you dont show momma this. Bye felicia.
@@googleuser6635if I want something to explode in my pocket I could take an Olight, OR i could just pull the pin on a grenade.
Olight is overpriced trash that happens to have decent EDC UI's
Neither Fenix or Olight make good tactical lights but Fenix is WAY better than Olight because I can at least count on a Fenix to not fucking kill me.
You insinuate multiple times that maxlvledc must be a Fenix shill, but he has way more videos showing Olights, meanwhile YOU do come across as a shill.
Neither Fenix or Olight make a good tactical light, and Olight NEVER WILL, Fenix might IF they sit down and actually talk to people who use lights for tactical purposes and find out what REAL tactical users want from a light.
Fenix is so close, they could offer a single mode 1500 lumen 80,000+ candela light and make a HUGE splash in the tactical market if they could keep the price below $100.
Olight just pays TH-camrs to advertise their products (proven multiple times by multiple sources) and rakes in profits. I'll never buy an Olight because I don't like their business model, and their lights aren't the kind of light I want anyway.