I still can't believe that Symonds has been accepted back into F1. You instruct a driver to crash you have no way of knowing what will happen: to the driver, other drivers, the crowd, marshalls etc. It elevates it in this list. Yes spygate and yes the drivers strike but playing fast with safety is next level.
Well Michael Schumacher did that every season and he did won half of those WC title’s by crashing competition driver’s out like Damon Hill and Mika Häkkinen.
@Divyesh Agrawal I have, its great! Tbh asides from the 'professional' youtube channels (such as this) the quality of F1 coverage on youtube is sensational and a real credit to this absurdly wonderful sport of ours!
I'd like to see a mini series on the whole 2000-2009 seasons. Alot of controversy and technical innovation were made during these times. It could be a very good watch no matter the era you started watching.
I read up on that. It's actually really sad. Senna was distraught over the incident and was approached by a friend saying he should preemptively retire from the race and take a fishing trip with him. Senna insisted on going out and took with him an Austrian flag in his car to wave in honor of Ratzenberger during the post-race, which they found after pulling apart Senna's wreck. It all reads like a bad omen. Barrichelo almost died that weekend too. Also Senna was apparently planning to chair a driver-led F1 safety commission in the months after the race but never lived to see it.
Senna died, Roland died, Rubens nearly died, two mechanics were hospitalized, eight spectators and a policeman were also injured. It truly was Black Sunday and when it was over, it felt like F1 could end forever. The animal had escaped it's cage.
Part of his disgust was down to him being of the impression that Ferrari wouldn't dare do it, and said so in the laps leading up to the conclusion of that race. The fact that they did left him gobsmacked
Here in Brazil the announcer's live reaction basically became a running joke because of their frustration and anger, it was a meme at a time when memes weren't a thing yet. I remember watching it live back then.
@@mrcmacc In France the official commentator was fired by the F1 broadcaster because he was so disgusted that he even suggested it was shameful for French people that Ferrari's manager was French (the guy himself wasn't even French, he was Belgian), and Jean Todt had many high placed friends at that TV station.
There was a pretty much forgotten controversy in Monza, 1960. Officially, it went down in history as the final victory for a front engine Grand Prix car, however, it was a far from glorious. The seeds of the controversy were sown by the season Ferrari were having up to then. While Cooper and Jack Brabham were well on the way to a second title after claiming both drivers and constructors titles in 1959, Ferrari were yet to win a race as the sport arrived in Italy for the Italian Grand Prix and the prospects for the Scuderia looked bleak as the teams began to arrive in Italy. Then, the organisers hit upon an idea to attempt to tip the balance in favour of Ferrari, use the full combination circuit, which featured the infamous banking. The organisers did this to try to tip the balance in favour of the one advantage Ferrari had in 1960, straight line speed. The rest of the field, lead by Cooper and the other British teams, were outraged at what they saw as blatant Italian Nationalism as the motivating factor in using the combination layout. Feeling that the banking was too dangerous, they issued an ultimatum to the organisers, reverse the layout change or they would pull out of the race weekend. No such reversal was forthcoming and the entry list was reduced to a mix of works and privately entered Ferraris. The driver who won the race, future world champion, Phil Hill, who in a tragic twist of fate would clinch the world championship a year later at that same location after his team mate, Count Wolfgang Von Tripps, was killed when his car clipped the blameless Jim Clark and speared into the crowd lining the track by Parabolica, taking the lives of 15 spectators along with him
@@malcolmholmes4535 not quite, the result was provisional until the World Motorsport Council met just before the German Grand Prix that year. I vividly remember how ITV broadcast the news on the Saturday at Hockenheim: "The World Motorsport Council met earlier this week to discuss the British Grand Prix. It was good news for Michael Schumacher, his win was declared official. But [it was] bad news for the three Stewards of the meeting who've now surrendered their licenses,"
Yeah the way Lewis got away with a double yellow infringement and gaining a position by leaving the track is really safe to say an adding to this video.
@@jansteen5640 oh no.... that hairline can be seen from space. He tries to play it off with the braids, but poor thing, we can't see them until you turn around.
Yep. Rich people don’t believe the rules apply to them so when you have a sport that consists of a bunch of rich people trying to build the best car, it’s inevitable everyone is going to assume the rules don’t apply to them.
I always said if they're gonna be taking people to the woodshed for "bringing the sport into disrepute," they better have fined the hell out of themselves for the 2005 US GP.
@Andrew Kian Felix In addition, Hamilton was forced to lie to the FIA by Ron Dennis, because initatially Hamilton told the FIA the true version of the story, which favored Toyota
Should have included -Teams threating a breakaway series 2009 FIA vs FOTA -The 2021 concorde agreement with the ridiculous 200 million entry fee paid to competitors from new teams before turning a wheel.
Wierd how the 2002 was such a fiery talking point, yet team orders are common now including Hamilton Bottas in Russia. Also another interesting one was the 2003 tire mould issue and the 2009 Aussie GP with Hamilton being told to lie about passing trulli. Ferrari 2019 engine settlement too Mclaren third pedal in 98 as well. All part of the juicy story of f1
team orders always had happen in F1 since the bloody 50's, i never understood the shock if a Fernando is faster than you or a Valterri it's James happens, it's part of the game
Dont forget the MANY times Bottas have to give way for Hamilton ,from the day Bottas was a Merc driver. As Hamilton stated once ,Bottas is tbe best team mate u could have.
F1 can be so tone-deaf at times, and the Senna and Hunt instances are proof of this. In the Prost incident, Senna dropped back to about 8th and masterfully drove through the field only to have the win taken from him, and Hunt came back from what should have been catastrophic suspension damage to win. These are great performances that should be immortalized, instead, they get disregarded due to stuffy and obsolete rules and its total bullshit.
Senna did not drop down to eighth. When Prost and Senna collided, they were already one minute ahead of Nannini and 90 seconds in front of Patrese and Boutsen and a lap in front of everyone else. When he came out, he was second behind Nannini and that was it, Talk about lying to try and rewrite history.
@Aidan Brazil I think you're mixing the 1988 and 1989 races together. In the 1988 race, Senna had a terrible start from pole position, leaving him 14th at the end of the first lap, but in a recovery drive worthy of a champion in waiting, he recovered to eventually retake the lead, holding on to it to clinch his first title the best way possible, by winning the race. In 1989, however, he was behind Prost for most of the race, the latter having concentrated on race setup. Senna did close in as the race was coming to a close, but at the time they collided, they were best part of a lap ahead of Nanini (who was running third at the time of the collision). Senna resumed, pitted the following lap for repairs, emerged in second just behind Nanini before retaking the lead to take the win on the road. The official reason for Senna's disqualification was undoubtedly controversial, leading to tongues being wagged about a conflict of interest (Balestre was a personal friend of Prost) and once again led to the FIA showing its contradictory side (penalising Senna for something that hadn't been penalised before, and disregarding the fact that he was in a dangerous place and would have had every right to restart in that circumstance)
I love how every race driver always talks about how you have to be selfish to win championships but yet when they disobey team orders (to win) they get put into a video like this
The reason why Indianapolis Motor Speedway went with diamond grinding before the 2005 United States Grand Prix was because IMS is in Indianapolis, Indiana... winter in Indiana gets really cold, and that affects the pavement... also, the reason why the Bridgestone teams of Ferrari, Jordan and Minardi didn't have the same issues that all the Michelin teams had was due to the fact that Bridgestone had the hookup, since Bridgestone owns Firestone and Firestone is the tire manufacturer for IndyCar, at the time still known as the Indy Racing League, and Firestone was able to gather tons of data on the repaved Indianapolis Motor Speedway because the IRL was running on the track almost daily during the traditional Month of May... also, apparently Firestone and IMS were supposed to share the data with both Bridgestone and Michelin but Michelin never got the data
The tyre manufacturers took two compounds of tyre to each meeting. A safe set and a softer set. The Michelin safe set wasn't suitable so they had no choice (as the softer set would have been way too soft).
That was probably the biggest shot in the foot in the history of F1's attempts to break into the US. What strikes me was the ferocity of the animosity between Bernie and Max Mosley back then, yet nowadays they are all lovey dovey and praising each other on how good they were to work with.
As American I Started watching f1 the year before this. Sure what happened was a joke but I do wish usa had more races and drivers on the grid. Even tho there's no representation F1 very popular here in the states, more so than people think there is.
@@dukedub I agree; I dont 'follow' F1 racing mainly because there's nothing here to follow, but I love watching it on TV. I think most Americans love a good race; regardless of what's being raced, lol.
IMS saying they had no idea that the 14 cars may park, yet, the National Guard was already protecting the ticket office when the Formation Lap ended. People were getting violent in the stands, with no yellow shirts, police, or NG present to monitor the worst actors. Me there, with my small son and elderly father, in the middle of it all. Never forgave TG and the Hulmans for this ignorance and neglect, and never will.
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Was there. Corner 1 bleachers. It was disappointing, to say the least. Seeing hundreds of cans of beer flying across the fences onto the track was amusing.
That Senna/Prost controversy is VERY popular in Brazil, something u didn't comment is that they tried to change the rule to allow that Senna move, but he got pissed and and barred it
Jonathan Wheatley (who was working for Benetton in 1994) said in the documentary History of the Pitstop: Gone in 2 seconds, that the missing filter in the refueling hose did cause the incident with Verstappen. The nozzle could not take the extra pressure and failed during the pitstop of Schumacher.
McLaren stealing technical information from Ferrari in 2007 was a rememberable one, then again Ron Dennis looks like the sort of guy who would sell his own grandmother.
Thats exactly the point that annoys me: "A season remembered for the death of Ayrton Senna". You are supposed to be professional journalists. And as such you should at least mention Roland Ratzenberger. Nothing against Senna here, but people always "forgetting to mention" Ratzenberger is disgusting! One of the dislikes is from me...
That's the problem. He is as they say, "Imola's forgotton man" Aside from those who knew him, no one has never heard about him. If there's going to be a documentary about him, the aforementioned words would be the title. Cruel as it is, but that's the way it is.
@@Limegreenedragon There is at least one documentary about him. Its on Amazon, but sadly only in German without subtitles: "Roland Ratzenberger - Der lange Weg zum kurzen Glück". I can really remcommend this one, as long as you do understand a little German...
Unfortunately it's true, a lot of F1 newer fans and general population that know something about 1994 just know/remember that Senna died that year. Ratzenberger deserves to be known more. But the way it's stated in the video is true.
Roland was a backmarker in his debut season whilst Ayrton was a 3x world champion widely considered the greatest F1 driver that ever lived. Guess who is going to be more remembered in pop culture when they both died? Say what you will about how callous it is to not mention Roland, but it's true.
@@T00DEEPBLUE that may be true but a TH-cam channel dedicated to racing is far away from pop culture and thus shouldn't just forget to mention a dead driver...
One forgotten controversy springs to mind, probably the first controversial race in F1 history, the 1960 Italian Grand Prix. Although remembered as the last time a front engined Grand Prix car won a race, it was far from glorious. By the time F1 arrived at Monza for the 1960 Italian Grand Prix, not only had Jack Brabham secured his second World Championship in a row with time to spare, but Ferrari had yet to score a win all year. Enzo Ferrari's old fashioned approach to car design (where he insisted that the horse, meaning the engine, should pull the cart, not push it) meant that his car were unable to match the more dynamically developed cars of Lotus and particularly Cooper. For the Italian organisers, the prospects looked bleak. Then, they hit upon an idea that would tip the balance in the one area Ferrari had superiority in, straight-line speed. Although the Road Course of Monza was an extremely fast track in its own right, the organisers decided to tip the balance even further in favour of the red cars by using the full circuit, which included the banking. Most of the teams were outraged by what they saw as blatant Italian Nationalism as the mindset for changing the layout, feeling that it was (even by the standards of the day) too dangerous. They issued what amounted to an ultimatum for the layout to be reverted to the Road Course or they'd withdraw from the race. No such reversion was forthcoming so the race was reduced to a mix of works and privately entered Ferraris, Porsches and privately entered cars that had Italian engines. Phil Hill took his first win, the first Grand Prix win by an American driver since Jimmy Murphy won the 1921 French Grand Prix (and later the 1922 Indy 500), but as already mentioned, it wasn't a glorious win.
Not sure I would agree that 'Pironi's reputation was ruined'. He was still considered one of the best in the paddock at the time of his near-fatal, career-ending accident later that year...
@@hyperfuryxdbs6665 Ferrari did team orders yesterday and it was fair since Carlos gave it back to Charles while Mercedes has been screwing Bottas, yeah idk why people scrutinize Ferrari so much and Merc gets away with them scott free
I was surprised by how some of the McLaren key details were let out. It was handled in the video like it was just 2 guys sharing information. I know it's a long story that deserves its own video but Ferrari internal restructure and power struggles, the McLaren people using the Ferrari information and asking for more data, the FIA investigation the McLaren internal one, blackmailing, and the impact it had on drivers lineup were details that deserved a mention.
According to Pedro de Rosa, he said that he and the mechanics shared little information, such as: wich weight balance does Ferrari use? Stuff like that, but they never knew about the "big information" like blueprints.
But those "coffe talks" about weight balance are pretty common in every F1 team because every team has spies(mechanics going from one team to another and the same with drivers). Only Coughlan and Stepney had the big info.
@@mateofrara check the emails leaked. They were receiving information in a frequently way, knew the ones involved and asked for specific details. Not only the drivers didn't whistle as they were supposed to report the leak, they were taking advantage from it.
@@sergiogsr Yes, they received information, like weight balance, braking system, they were having these coffee talks, but I think they never shared plans or big information, as I said before, this is quite common in F1, the point is that they never actually used the information and the FIA could never prove it. But anyway, some team members cheated and paid for it.
You've forgotten with the 2005 tyre fiasco, that at Australia (I believe) the reverse happened and the 6 cars weren't allowed to race, even though they had a compromise (like the additional corners), so it Bridgestone (I think it was) refused to add the corner in America due to Michelline refusing earlier that season. It was some years ago, but that's what I remember from it
The track configuration needs to be homologated which means a safety check has taken place on the revised configuration. To race on a track that has not gone through this process in the most litigious country in the world could have been a disaster.
i mean barrichello was very good but just like so many others he was never the greatest, his ferrari time might have been too biased towards schumacher but we saw how button beat him fair and square
I still think Alonso had known something was up at the Singapore GP. That fuel strategy goes against any normal strategy and Alonso would have given a WTF to the team, unless, he knew something right at the time he was in the pits, a safety car was to be deployed...
The Austria 2002 controversy could have been avoided. If Ferrari had been slow enough at Barrichello's pit stops, it would have not lead to all the booing that happened afterwards, many outsiders would have been none the wiser (a bit like Massa rejoining from his final stop in Brazil 2007 in traffic, which was just enough to allow Raikkonen to make his final stop and rejoin in the lead, thus securing the world championship for himself)
No mention of 2006 when the FIA banned Renault's mass damper system after it was first deemed legal, or Schumacher continuously cutting the chicane at Budapest to stay ahead de La Rosa and Heidfeld, or Alonso's grid penalty at Monza for supposedly impeding Massa's qualifying lap.
Ted Kravitz barely hid his disgust at Renault when the ruling on Crashgate was reported in the week of the 2009 Singapore Grand Prix "We now know what happened, Nelson Piquet crashed on purpose to bring out the Safety Car. This wasn't spying on other teams or lying to the Stewards, this was endangering spectators, marshalls and his own safety. The only debate was whether the plan to crash deliberately was Piquet's idea or Pat Symonds', each one blames the other, so someone is still not telling the truth. "The team may have got off lightly in the FIA Court, but Renault have been hit in the pocket, by the immediate withdrawal of title sponsor ING, the financial services company didn't want to be associated with a team that cheats. In an ironic twist, Piquet's replacement Romain Grosjean, spun in precisely the same place in the same way here in Practice yesterday,"
You forgot to mention that Senna was given a worse starting position than Prost by the FIA even though Senna was on pole position, and this is a big reason why Prost got out ahead.
(2002 Austria) ''...and schumacher handing Barrichello the winning trophy was the only thing Ferrari where punished for''. Well, of course. Because team orders weren't illegal at the time.
Team orders never went away. Teams were just more sneaky about it. They would just tell driver to do something like change a certain settings on the car. One I always remember was the 1998 Australian Grand Prix. Mika Hakkinem won it with David Coulthard finishing second. The controversy for those that don't know was that Coulthard was winning the opening race of the season with a couple of laps to go, Coulthard let Hakkinem past without orders. It later emerged after the race Hakkinem and Culthard had a gentleman's agreement. If they were in first and second place towards the end of the race. They had agreed who ever was in the lead in the opening lap of the Grand prix would win the race. Hakkinem lead the first lap so Culthard let him past to win the race. Also everyone knows Alonso knew more than he did about the Nelson Piquet incident. He even accidently revealed something in an interview. The team did everything to protect him.
It feels like Mercedes was doing team orders in EVERY race of the last 7 years, but because of the team and driver involved, nobody made a complaint it seems. But that one time that a Ferrari passed another one ... how how ...
thanks goodness finally someone from inside of f1 is willing to depict what happened at imola 1982 with objectivity! media is always biased even in 1982, esp british media in the hands of a canadian journalist (whose name i shall not repeat here!) i'll always feel bad for pironi whose reputation was single handedly ruined, his tragic end of f1 career and loss of the championship by 1 bloody point, not to mention his death!
Chugging Webber's tears* Seriously, what was Webber thinking would happen? He refused to accept a similar team order the year before in Brazil, when Vettel was fighting for the title.
With the Indy debacle I was please that the FIA did not budge. Michelin had an advantage the whole year, with just about the only race where they were completely on the backfoot, the wanted changes made so that they could be competitive. That was BS..
I sense a missed opportunity here, to remind the community about a golden quote from Max Mosley, saying that out of this 100M fine, $5 was for the offence itself and $95 was for Ron Dennis being a t**t ^^'
Well that was not a controversy as it was obvious that Schumacher had hit him on purpose and was subsequently disqualified from the championship that season. Was there anybody who said umm well this was a race accident so FIA´s decision was unfair?
@@LordOfTheBored There have been numerous Schumacher fans claiming that crash was "Villeneuve's fault because he dived to the inside line". Of course everyone with a functioning brain knows Schumacher did that on purpose. Just like he did against Hill at Adelaide '94.
Maybe not being strictly controversy but i want to remind 1999 title fight. In penultimate race Schumi declared to pass Eddie for championship( which he did) but in the last race he didn't, which resulted in Mika's winning by only two points. By his decision Ferraris had to wait another one year to score WDC
Actually, it wouldn't have mattered at all. Irvine and Hakkinen would have been tied at 76 points, but Mika had 5 wins to Irvine's 4. So the only way Irvine had a chance would have been if Michael overtook Mika.
How about the Webber - Vettel controversy at Red Bull, & the " Mode 2-1" call from the pit wall to swap places, so Webber would win, which Seb 'ignored' ?
Also, it's really amazing that Ferrari was involved in so many controversies!! Their history is peppered with controversies more any race wins or championships..😂😂😂
Team orders will always be a part of F1, whether its heard on the radio or not. The #2 driver is known pretty quickly. People complain about being a rough and dirty driver, but Prost did some shady shit too.
Pink Mercedes is fun but my favorite is “Tracing Point” lol
Brilliant
Amazing "wetraceasone"
We trace, We race
Yeah, I don't think Pink Mercedes caught on nearly as well as Tracing Point.
That is absolutely brilliant
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I still can't believe that Symonds has been accepted back into F1. You instruct a driver to crash you have no way of knowing what will happen: to the driver, other drivers, the crowd, marshalls etc. It elevates it in this list. Yes spygate and yes the drivers strike but playing fast with safety is next level.
Also makes me wondering Why Senna wasnt excluded from the 1990 standings.. after he said that he crashed into Prost on purpose..
@@joribremer5260 maybe paying him back from the year previous? idk, I'm a Prost fan so eh
Symonds is damaged goods and toxic even by F1 standards! No idea why ever he's allowed back.
Piquet had to do that to keep the drive which he lost halfway through 09 lol
Well Michael Schumacher did that every season and he did won half of those WC title’s by crashing competition driver’s out like Damon Hill and Mika Häkkinen.
The McLaren spy scandel would make for a great netflix documentary!
Imagine committing corporate espionage and then taking the evidence to a local copy shop.
Then getting wrekt by the Ferrari fan working there
Surely that’s where Drive to Survive is going after a few years. You can’t just do the same stuff for five years running, great fun as it is
@Divyesh Agrawal I have, its great! Tbh asides from the 'professional' youtube channels (such as this) the quality of F1 coverage on youtube is sensational and a real credit to this absurdly wonderful sport of ours!
I'd like to see a mini series on the whole 2000-2009 seasons. Alot of controversy and technical innovation were made during these times. It could be a very good watch no matter the era you started watching.
Netflix:write that down
everyone forgets that Roland Ratzenberger also died the same weekend as Senna but because he is not as well known he gets forgotten about
I read up on that. It's actually really sad. Senna was distraught over the incident and was approached by a friend saying he should preemptively retire from the race and take a fishing trip with him. Senna insisted on going out and took with him an Austrian flag in his car to wave in honor of Ratzenberger during the post-race, which they found after pulling apart Senna's wreck.
It all reads like a bad omen. Barrichelo almost died that weekend too.
Also Senna was apparently planning to chair a driver-led F1 safety commission in the months after the race but never lived to see it.
@@SolidSonicTH I believe it was Dr. Sid Watkins who suggested the fishing trip.
Senna died, Roland died, Rubens nearly died, two mechanics were hospitalized, eight spectators and a policeman were also injured. It truly was Black Sunday and when it was over, it felt like F1 could end forever. The animal had escaped it's cage.
He really doesn’t.
@@jimkear6749 and the biggest thing was after senna crash the race startet again. so crazy
Hamilton denying he had a hair transplant
Hamilton & his nephew wearing a dress
Hamilton's hairline is the real greatest comeback since Lazarus
Bruh what do you mean that he denied hair transplant he never had a transplant all he did was to not use the hotel shampoo.
All Hamilton haters denying its because of his skin color why theyre so bitter.
@@ashokbhashkarsrivastava3144 if you actually believe that bulls**t, you have the IQ of a potato.
Austria 2002 stands out in my mind for James Allen's exclamation of "I DO NOT ADAM AND EVE IT" immediately after the Ferraris crossed the line
Part of his disgust was down to him being of the impression that Ferrari wouldn't dare do it, and said so in the laps leading up to the conclusion of that race. The fact that they did left him gobsmacked
Here in Brazil the announcer's live reaction basically became a running joke because of their frustration and anger, it was a meme at a time when memes weren't a thing yet. I remember watching it live back then.
@@mrcmacc yea.... "Not today! Not today!Not today... Yes today, yes today :( "
"HOJE NÃO, HOJE NÃO, HOJE SIM!"
@@mrcmacc In France the official commentator was fired by the F1 broadcaster because he was so disgusted that he even suggested it was shameful for French people that Ferrari's manager was French (the guy himself wasn't even French, he was Belgian), and Jean Todt had many high placed friends at that TV station.
There was a pretty much forgotten controversy in Monza, 1960. Officially, it went down in history as the final victory for a front engine Grand Prix car, however, it was a far from glorious. The seeds of the controversy were sown by the season Ferrari were having up to then. While Cooper and Jack Brabham were well on the way to a second title after claiming both drivers and constructors titles in 1959, Ferrari were yet to win a race as the sport arrived in Italy for the Italian Grand Prix and the prospects for the Scuderia looked bleak as the teams began to arrive in Italy. Then, the organisers hit upon an idea to attempt to tip the balance in favour of Ferrari, use the full combination circuit, which featured the infamous banking. The organisers did this to try to tip the balance in favour of the one advantage Ferrari had in 1960, straight line speed.
The rest of the field, lead by Cooper and the other British teams, were outraged at what they saw as blatant Italian Nationalism as the motivating factor in using the combination layout. Feeling that the banking was too dangerous, they issued an ultimatum to the organisers, reverse the layout change or they would pull out of the race weekend. No such reversal was forthcoming and the entry list was reduced to a mix of works and privately entered Ferraris. The driver who won the race, future world champion, Phil Hill, who in a tragic twist of fate would clinch the world championship a year later at that same location after his team mate, Count Wolfgang Von Tripps, was killed when his car clipped the blameless Jim Clark and speared into the crowd lining the track by Parabolica, taking the lives of 15 spectators along with him
I just knew Crashgate , Indygate and Spygate would be on this list.
Tracing Point Gate is also on this list
We need a controversy around exhausts; wastegategate
But illegal mercedes tyre test and 44 lying about podium standings in 2009 to steal undeserved podium spot wasn't. Biased much?
@@KuK137 they are brits ofc they wont put liegate
@@vyasponnuri3375 tracing gate lol
to this day i firmly believe they should scratch the entire 2008 singapore grand prix results and induct massa as world champion
@Matthew Breslin Nah, i'm not
Agree and I am an Aussie
Lost the championship thanks to that last lap pass on Glock by the fuckboy. I wonder how much money McLaren is paying Timo yearly now as a thanks.
You missed the 1998 British GP: When Michael Schumacher Won an F1 Race Sitting in the Pits
Nah, that was epic
That was solved shortly after the race
@@malcolmholmes4535 not quite, the result was provisional until the World Motorsport Council met just before the German Grand Prix that year. I vividly remember how ITV broadcast the news on the Saturday at Hockenheim:
"The World Motorsport Council met earlier this week to discuss the British Grand Prix. It was good news for Michael Schumacher, his win was declared official. But [it was] bad news for the three Stewards of the meeting who've now surrendered their licenses,"
One of the most exciting races I ever watched
He forgot Massa's 2008 title being snatched at the very last corner as well
I think it’s safe to say that last race can be added to this list
Yeah the way Lewis got away with a double yellow infringement and gaining a position by leaving the track is really safe to say an adding to this video.
@@joostprins3381 and gain a 3 second lead doing so, with the fastest car.
Maybe it would be easier just to add a section for the entire 2021 season.
Fun Fact: The anonymous photocopying employee is a die hard Ferrari fan.
A photocopy employee that will never own a Ferrari automobile
I bet Ferrari gave him medal.
@@ChefofWar33 her*
@@Krahhf Doubtful
@@ChefofWar33 No the incident is actually well documented and it is a ‘she’ that leaked the info to Ferrari
Biggest controversy ever in F1?
Seb's haircuts!
lmao
And Alonsos beards.
But they're due to the fact that poor Seb has been fighting early hair loss for many years
Biggest comeback in F1 is Hamilton's hairline
@@jansteen5640 oh no.... that hairline can be seen from space. He tries to play it off with the braids, but poor thing, we can't see them until you turn around.
"Fernando is faster than you" is still one of the most savage moments in the sport's history
F1 has become a site for espionage, I see I see.
why am I seeing you everywhere?
It always was...
just like McLaren on other teams, I see I see
F1 is just so prone to this it’s really is the way that the sport is built
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@@niismo. ??
Politics
Yep. Rich people don’t believe the rules apply to them so when you have a sport that consists of a bunch of rich people trying to build the best car, it’s inevitable everyone is going to assume the rules don’t apply to them.
I always said if they're gonna be taking people to the woodshed for "bringing the sport into disrepute," they better have fined the hell out of themselves for the 2005 US GP.
3:42 I beg your pardon, Ed?
I think that's what The 90 Day Fiancé is about.
I've got one you missed: the 1984 Tyrrell "lead shot" controversy.
Hamilton/McLaren lying to the stewards at Australia 2009
I don't Remember that, what happened?
@Andrew Kian Felix Hamilton wasn’t 4th, he was disqualified
@Andrew Kian Felix In addition, Hamilton was forced to lie to the FIA by Ron Dennis, because initatially Hamilton told the FIA the true version of the story, which favored Toyota
A solicitor would almost certainly have been struck off for misleading the court/race officials like that.
@@raphboult8894 the 1998 Spa also.
You missed Verstappen stealing kvyat's girl
Not just his girl, his seat RB too. Max is like a rocket, what he sees, he gets. Hamilton should run and hide xD
Thats nothing compared to lebron James teammate sleeping with his mother LMFAO
Putin is gonna kill him
Kvyat´s girl was Verstappens sister.
@@HugoStiglitz88 that’s why he’s a crack addict now and LeBron is still the best player in the NBA 😂
Hamilton and Mclaren lying to the stewards, Melbourne 2009. For me, the "dumbest scandal ever".
Yes, I always have a chuckle when Lewis says "I don't lie". He's forgotten Liargate.
The Mercedes tyre test and Schumacher-Villeneuve crash should have been here.
Should have included
-Teams threating a breakaway series 2009 FIA vs FOTA
-The 2021 concorde agreement with the ridiculous 200 million entry fee paid to competitors from new teams before turning a wheel.
"[Senna] faced a barrage of criticism, for causing a crash at approaching 150mph"
Lewis Hamilton would like to know your location
Lewis got his fair share of criticism for that one. It'll be in a compilation in 10 years surely
Pastor Maldando wants to know your location
Nikita Mazepin wants to know your location
HAAS Wants to know your location
Max Vercrashen would like to know your location.
Wierd how the 2002 was such a fiery talking point, yet team orders are common now including Hamilton Bottas in Russia.
Also another interesting one was the 2003 tire mould issue and the 2009 Aussie GP with Hamilton being told to lie about passing trulli.
Ferrari 2019 engine settlement too
Mclaren third pedal in 98 as well.
All part of the juicy story of f1
team orders always had happen in F1 since the bloody 50's, i never understood the shock if a Fernando is faster than you or a Valterri it's James happens, it's part of the game
Or the 1960 Italian GP
Dont forget the MANY times Bottas have to give way for Hamilton ,from the day Bottas was a Merc driver.
As Hamilton stated once ,Bottas is tbe best team mate u could have.
@@bobvido9875Don't forget Schumacher's teammates had a non-compete clause in their contract
F1 can be so tone-deaf at times, and the Senna and Hunt instances are proof of this. In the Prost incident, Senna dropped back to about 8th and masterfully drove through the field only to have the win taken from him, and Hunt came back from what should have been catastrophic suspension damage to win. These are great performances that should be immortalized, instead, they get disregarded due to stuffy and obsolete rules and its total bullshit.
Senna did not drop down to eighth.
When Prost and Senna collided, they were already one minute ahead of Nannini and 90 seconds in front of Patrese and Boutsen and a lap in front of everyone else. When he came out, he was second behind Nannini and that was it,
Talk about lying to try and rewrite history.
@Aidan Brazil I think you're mixing the 1988 and 1989 races together. In the 1988 race, Senna had a terrible start from pole position, leaving him 14th at the end of the first lap, but in a recovery drive worthy of a champion in waiting, he recovered to eventually retake the lead, holding on to it to clinch his first title the best way possible, by winning the race.
In 1989, however, he was behind Prost for most of the race, the latter having concentrated on race setup. Senna did close in as the race was coming to a close, but at the time they collided, they were best part of a lap ahead of Nanini (who was running third at the time of the collision). Senna resumed, pitted the following lap for repairs, emerged in second just behind Nanini before retaking the lead to take the win on the road.
The official reason for Senna's disqualification was undoubtedly controversial, leading to tongues being wagged about a conflict of interest (Balestre was a personal friend of Prost) and once again led to the FIA showing its contradictory side (penalising Senna for something that hadn't been penalised before, and disregarding the fact that he was in a dangerous place and would have had every right to restart in that circumstance)
Well this is ironic that I get it recommended after the Hamilton incident
I love how every race driver always talks about how you have to be selfish to win championships but yet when they disobey team orders (to win) they get put into a video like this
The reason why Indianapolis Motor Speedway went with diamond grinding before the 2005 United States Grand Prix was because IMS is in Indianapolis, Indiana... winter in Indiana gets really cold, and that affects the pavement... also, the reason why the Bridgestone teams of Ferrari, Jordan and Minardi didn't have the same issues that all the Michelin teams had was due to the fact that Bridgestone had the hookup, since Bridgestone owns Firestone and Firestone is the tire manufacturer for IndyCar, at the time still known as the Indy Racing League, and Firestone was able to gather tons of data on the repaved Indianapolis Motor Speedway because the IRL was running on the track almost daily during the traditional Month of May... also, apparently Firestone and IMS were supposed to share the data with both Bridgestone and Michelin but Michelin never got the data
The tyre manufacturers took two compounds of tyre to each meeting. A safe set and a softer set. The Michelin safe set wasn't suitable so they had no choice (as the softer set would have been way too soft).
Number 0: the final race of the 2021 season
I swear I've seen this exact video at least 10 times across all the f1 youtube channels, even this one
My father was at the 2005 Indy GP. The outrage from the fans was immense, and the actions the fans took we’re with words he can’t even describe.
That was probably the biggest shot in the foot in the history of F1's attempts to break into the US. What strikes me was the ferocity of the animosity between Bernie and Max Mosley back then, yet nowadays they are all lovey dovey and praising each other on how good they were to work with.
As American I Started watching f1 the year before this. Sure what happened was a joke but I do wish usa had more races and drivers on the grid. Even tho there's no representation F1 very popular here in the states, more so than people think there is.
@@dukedub I agree; I dont 'follow' F1 racing mainly because there's nothing here to follow, but I love watching it on TV. I think most Americans love a good race; regardless of what's being raced, lol.
IMS saying they had no idea that the 14 cars may park, yet, the National Guard was already protecting the ticket office when the Formation Lap ended. People were getting violent in the stands, with no yellow shirts, police, or NG present to monitor the worst actors. Me there, with my small son and elderly father, in the middle of it all. Never forgave TG and the Hulmans for this ignorance and neglect, and never will.
Was there. Corner 1 bleachers. It was disappointing, to say the least. Seeing hundreds of cans of beer flying across the fences onto the track was amusing.
That Senna/Prost controversy is VERY popular in Brazil, something u didn't comment is that they tried to change the rule to allow that Senna move, but he got pissed and and barred it
Jonathan Wheatley (who was working for Benetton in 1994) said in the documentary History of the Pitstop: Gone in 2 seconds, that the missing filter in the refueling hose did cause the incident with Verstappen. The nozzle could not take the extra pressure and failed during the pitstop of Schumacher.
M. Schumacher parking his car at Rascasse during 2006 Monaco GP qualification.
McLaren stealing technical information from Ferrari in 2007 was a rememberable one, then again Ron Dennis looks like the sort of guy who would sell his own grandmother.
Fernando was involved in 40% of these... lol and they didn't even get into Hungry 2006 quali.
*2007* :)
But not in the Piquet one, unless you have some evidence
Thats exactly the point that annoys me: "A season remembered for the death of Ayrton Senna". You are supposed to be professional journalists. And as such you should at least mention Roland Ratzenberger. Nothing against Senna here, but people always "forgetting to mention" Ratzenberger is disgusting! One of the dislikes is from me...
That's the problem. He is as they say, "Imola's forgotton man" Aside from those who knew him, no one has never heard about him. If there's going to be a documentary about him, the aforementioned words would be the title. Cruel as it is, but that's the way it is.
@@Limegreenedragon There is at least one documentary about him. Its on Amazon, but sadly only in German without subtitles: "Roland Ratzenberger - Der lange Weg zum kurzen Glück". I can really remcommend this one, as long as you do understand a little German...
Unfortunately it's true, a lot of F1 newer fans and general population that know something about 1994 just know/remember that Senna died that year.
Ratzenberger deserves to be known more. But the way it's stated in the video is true.
Roland was a backmarker in his debut season whilst Ayrton was a 3x world champion widely considered the greatest F1 driver that ever lived. Guess who is going to be more remembered in pop culture when they both died? Say what you will about how callous it is to not mention Roland, but it's true.
@@T00DEEPBLUE that may be true but a TH-cam channel dedicated to racing is far away from pop culture and thus shouldn't just forget to mention a dead driver...
Well that was clever of Benetton to have Windows 95 for their option 13 a year before in was even released :p
One forgotten controversy springs to mind, probably the first controversial race in F1 history, the 1960 Italian Grand Prix. Although remembered as the last time a front engined Grand Prix car won a race, it was far from glorious. By the time F1 arrived at Monza for the 1960 Italian Grand Prix, not only had Jack Brabham secured his second World Championship in a row with time to spare, but Ferrari had yet to score a win all year. Enzo Ferrari's old fashioned approach to car design (where he insisted that the horse, meaning the engine, should pull the cart, not push it) meant that his car were unable to match the more dynamically developed cars of Lotus and particularly Cooper.
For the Italian organisers, the prospects looked bleak. Then, they hit upon an idea that would tip the balance in the one area Ferrari had superiority in, straight-line speed. Although the Road Course of Monza was an extremely fast track in its own right, the organisers decided to tip the balance even further in favour of the red cars by using the full circuit, which included the banking. Most of the teams were outraged by what they saw as blatant Italian Nationalism as the mindset for changing the layout, feeling that it was (even by the standards of the day) too dangerous. They issued what amounted to an ultimatum for the layout to be reverted to the Road Course or they'd withdraw from the race. No such reversion was forthcoming so the race was reduced to a mix of works and privately entered Ferraris, Porsches and privately entered cars that had Italian engines.
Phil Hill took his first win, the first Grand Prix win by an American driver since Jimmy Murphy won the 1921 French Grand Prix (and later the 1922 Indy 500), but as already mentioned, it wasn't a glorious win.
this season alone added about another 5
My biggest flex is that I met the “fernando is faster than you” man lol
You've met Rob Semdley? Is he as cool as he seems irl lmao?
Yeah like David Hobbs said Alonso gets the most out of the car put him in Hamilton's car and see what happens
Not sure I would agree that 'Pironi's reputation was ruined'. He was still considered one of the best in the paddock at the time of his near-fatal, career-ending accident later that year...
One that continues to live in my head rent free: the Williams saga of 79-early 82
What exactly happened??? I only knew about Williams vs FIA in 1993
Well, I think a new one made the list today…
Ferrari and their team orders🤣 i hope Carlos is watching this
@@hyperfuryxdbs6665 Ferrari did team orders yesterday and it was fair since Carlos gave it back to Charles while Mercedes has been screwing Bottas, yeah idk why people scrutinize Ferrari so much and Merc gets away with them scott free
I was surprised by how some of the McLaren key details were let out. It was handled in the video like it was just 2 guys sharing information.
I know it's a long story that deserves its own video but Ferrari internal restructure and power struggles, the McLaren people using the Ferrari information and asking for more data, the FIA investigation the McLaren internal one, blackmailing, and the impact it had on drivers lineup were details that deserved a mention.
Should probably have an entire video dedicated to it.
According to Pedro de Rosa, he said that he and the mechanics shared little information, such as: wich weight balance does Ferrari use? Stuff like that, but they never knew about the "big information" like blueprints.
But those "coffe talks" about weight balance are pretty common in every F1 team because every team has spies(mechanics going from one team to another and the same with drivers). Only Coughlan and Stepney had the big info.
@@mateofrara check the emails leaked. They were receiving information in a frequently way, knew the ones involved and asked for specific details. Not only the drivers didn't whistle as they were supposed to report the leak, they were taking advantage from it.
@@sergiogsr Yes, they received information, like weight balance, braking system, they were having these coffee talks, but I think they never shared plans or big information, as I said before, this is quite common in F1, the point is that they never actually used the information and the FIA could never prove it. But anyway, some team members cheated and paid for it.
Thank you for some F1 content that isn't freaking out about Mclaren not changing their livery 🙂
You've forgotten with the 2005 tyre fiasco, that at Australia (I believe) the reverse happened and the 6 cars weren't allowed to race, even though they had a compromise (like the additional corners), so it Bridgestone (I think it was) refused to add the corner in America due to Michelline refusing earlier that season.
It was some years ago, but that's what I remember from it
The track configuration needs to be homologated which means a safety check has taken place on the revised configuration. To race on a track that has not gone through this process in the most litigious country in the world could have been a disaster.
Top ten controversies/allegations in 2021 season would be great 😂 .
The 2008 Crashgate still fresh in everyone's mind.
Barrichello deserved a championship.
i mean barrichello was very good but just like so many others he was never the greatest, his ferrari time might have been too biased towards schumacher but we saw how button beat him fair and square
More victories, maybe, hard to beat his teammates when he was in a position to do so for a championship though.
He couldn't even beat Button in 2009 forget Schumacher in 2000 to 2004.
@@Undivided-X he was past his prime there , he could've won a championship in Ferrari
@booptidyscoop yeah. A butler also deserves to be a prince...LOL. Barrichello must be the most obedient and low self-respect driver in F1 history.
Two more: Jenson Button's contract with Williams ("Buttongate") and Giedo van der Garde with Sauber.
always wondered why a multimillion dollar company like McLaren had to use a copy shop to photocopy documents
I’ve been waiting for this one
Here’s another video suggestion Top 10 one man team seasons like Verstappen in 2020 and Ralf Schumacher in 1999
Some that came to mind
Kubica in 2010
Rosberg in 2008/09
Alonso in 2014
@@p0werfu11 Hamilton in 2008/09 as well and Alonso in 2012 Senna in 93 there’s quite a few when you think about it
Cool idea, I’d like to chuck Frentzen in 1999 and JB in 2004 into the mix as well
@@michaelsanderson9562 more like JB in 2005, Sato in 2007
And Schumacher 1994
I miss watching F1 at Kyalami.
Porche has just redone the whole circuit, it's about time F1 comes back
I still think Alonso had known something was up at the Singapore GP. That fuel strategy goes against any normal strategy and Alonso would have given a WTF to the team, unless, he knew something right at the time he was in the pits, a safety car was to be deployed...
3:42 "Fisa f*** a war" lmao
Schumi parking his car at Monaco to stop anyone else from completing a flying lap was pretty dodgy too.
Time to release a post-2021 Abu Dhabi update
Looks like this list is gonna have to be updated…
2021 season finale comes knocking and wants into this list.
14:42 Günther is probably thinking: “What am I doing here with these wankers”
Imagine Drive to survive on these incidents...
The Austria 2002 controversy could have been avoided. If Ferrari had been slow enough at Barrichello's pit stops, it would have not lead to all the booing that happened afterwards, many outsiders would have been none the wiser (a bit like Massa rejoining from his final stop in Brazil 2007 in traffic, which was just enough to allow Raikkonen to make his final stop and rejoin in the lead, thus securing the world championship for himself)
What about the Ferrari 2019 engine and the rumored tampering with its fuel flow?
What about 1997? Schumacher driving into Villeneuve and losing all his points for the year?
No mention of 2006 when the FIA banned Renault's mass damper system after it was first deemed legal, or Schumacher continuously cutting the chicane at Budapest to stay ahead de La Rosa and Heidfeld, or Alonso's grid penalty at Monza for supposedly impeding Massa's qualifying lap.
You can now add the 2021 Abu Dhabi Grand Prix
Ted Kravitz barely hid his disgust at Renault when the ruling on Crashgate was reported in the week of the 2009 Singapore Grand Prix
"We now know what happened, Nelson Piquet crashed on purpose to bring out the Safety Car. This wasn't spying on other teams or lying to the Stewards, this was endangering spectators, marshalls and his own safety. The only debate was whether the plan to crash deliberately was Piquet's idea or Pat Symonds', each one blames the other, so someone is still not telling the truth.
"The team may have got off lightly in the FIA Court, but Renault have been hit in the pocket, by the immediate withdrawal of title sponsor ING, the financial services company didn't want to be associated with a team that cheats. In an ironic twist, Piquet's replacement Romain Grosjean, spun in precisely the same place in the same way here in Practice yesterday,"
You forgot to mention that Senna was given a worse starting position than Prost by the FIA even though Senna was on pole position, and this is a big reason why Prost got out ahead.
The time Max Mosley dressed up as a Nazi
Lol I remember that
I think his mistress was dressed as a Nazi, he was just her slave or something
(2002 Austria) ''...and schumacher handing Barrichello the winning trophy was the only thing Ferrari where punished for''. Well, of course. Because team orders weren't illegal at the time.
Apparently nothing controversial happened in the first 25 years of Formula 1. Must've been nice...
Team orders never went away. Teams were just more sneaky about it. They would just tell driver to do something like change a certain settings on the car. One I always remember was the 1998 Australian Grand Prix. Mika Hakkinem won it with David Coulthard finishing second. The controversy for those that don't know was that Coulthard was winning the opening race of the season with a couple of laps to go, Coulthard let Hakkinem past without orders. It later emerged after the race Hakkinem and Culthard had a gentleman's agreement. If they were in first and second place towards the end of the race. They had agreed who ever was in the lead in the opening lap of the Grand prix would win the race. Hakkinem lead the first lap so Culthard let him past to win the race. Also everyone knows Alonso knew more than he did about the Nelson Piquet incident. He even accidently revealed something in an interview. The team did everything to protect him.
It feels like Mercedes was doing team orders in EVERY race of the last 7 years, but because of the team and driver involved, nobody made a complaint it seems. But that one time that a Ferrari passed another one ... how how ...
Weird seeing Gunther Steiner @ 14:42.
Might need to make a part 2 of this video with the excitement in Abu Dhabi
thanks goodness finally someone from inside of f1 is willing to depict what happened at imola 1982 with objectivity! media is always biased even in 1982, esp british media in the hands of a canadian journalist (whose name i shall not repeat here!) i'll always feel bad for pironi whose reputation was single handedly ruined, his tragic end of f1 career and loss of the championship by 1 bloody point, not to mention his death!
Pironi was not in the wrong in that race,Gilles made a mostake,Pironi passed him,Gilles expected the race to be handed to him on a silver platter.
Season finale 2021: hold my safety car
Multi 21 seb. Multi 21.... stare and chugging water intensively
Chugging Webber's tears*
Seriously, what was Webber thinking would happen? He refused to accept a similar team order the year before in Brazil, when Vettel was fighting for the title.
*GLULULULULULU*
@@simoneburini4036 Vettel fanboy spotted
@@sindhusojan8225 how is telling what actually happened "fanboying"?
@@simoneburini4036 MULTI 18. MULTI18
With the Indy debacle I was please that the FIA did not budge. Michelin had an advantage the whole year, with just about the only race where they were completely on the backfoot, the wanted changes made so that they could be competitive. That was BS..
2021 Abu Dhabi gp says hi
I sense a missed opportunity here, to remind the community about a golden quote from Max Mosley, saying that out of this 100M fine, $5 was for the offence itself and $95 was for Ron Dennis being a t**t ^^'
Oh so Matt Gallagher wasn't making that one up
Imagine ferrari was include in this list so many times
And they still missed the fuel tank scandal
@@bhavishshah2415 wait what?
Only team to have been in the sport since the beginning, It's not really that surprising. And it doesn't paint them that negatively.
@@mando5803 the 2019 Ferrari power unit was what I meant
Exceeding the maximum permissible fuel flow
@@bhavishshah2415 “Allegedly” 🙄
This needs to be updated lol
Nothing about Schumacher hitting Villeneuve on purpose?
They did show a picture when talking about title deciding collisions, but yeah, this videos needs a part 2...
Schumi didn’t win that race so that’s probably why
That was just another day at the office for Shoe-maker, so it's nothing out of the ordinary.
Well that was not a controversy as it was obvious that Schumacher had hit him on purpose and was subsequently disqualified from the championship that season. Was there anybody who said umm well this was a race accident so FIA´s decision was unfair?
@@LordOfTheBored There have been numerous Schumacher fans claiming that crash was "Villeneuve's fault because he dived to the inside line".
Of course everyone with a functioning brain knows Schumacher did that on purpose. Just like he did against Hill at Adelaide '94.
Maybe not being strictly controversy but i want to remind 1999 title fight. In penultimate race Schumi declared to pass Eddie for championship( which he did) but in the last race he didn't, which resulted in Mika's winning by only two points.
By his decision Ferraris had to wait another one year to score WDC
Actually, it wouldn't have mattered at all. Irvine and Hakkinen would have been tied at 76 points, but Mika had 5 wins to Irvine's 4. So the only way Irvine had a chance would have been if Michael overtook Mika.
they need to do another one of these again with the Belgian "Grand Prix" of 2021!
Another of Hunt's DQ. The width of the car controversy that was shown in Rush.
Which I still understand how it was overturned. The car failed to meet parameters. It should been rightly DQ'd and was, end of story.
F1 Racing in Saudi Arabia should be a hugely controversial topic. The fact that it isn’t right now speaks volumes about the FIA and Liberty Media. 🤔
yeah they can't get a German GP on the schedule but some random Tilke street track is no issue
If racing inside a country is a controversy, then there would not be a chinese GP for decades.
@@Left4Coragem I agree on that
@@Left4Coragem straight facts
@@Left4Coragem Well, China don't execute people in the streets... There's levels of "bad", and Saudi Arabia is at the very bottom.
Question about the Giles/pironi part. Why did only 1 of the Ferraris have a front wing?
The pronunciation of controversies in controversial
Here’s 3
Multi 21
Valtteri it’s James
2019 Canadian GP
I can think of a recent event that could fit in this list...
Been looking for that one
Yeah the Silverstone ramming.
Dislike
How about the Webber - Vettel controversy at Red Bull, & the " Mode 2-1" call from the pit wall to swap places, so Webber would win, which Seb 'ignored' ?
"Hold my beer"
And now they should add 2021 Abu Dhabi GP thx to Nicolas Latifi
Also, it's really amazing that Ferrari was involved in so many controversies!! Their history is peppered with controversies more any race wins or championships..😂😂😂
Team orders will always be a part of F1, whether its heard on the radio or not. The #2 driver is known pretty quickly.
People complain about being a rough and dirty driver, but Prost did some shady shit too.
Time for a video remake!