But, if you're layering, you still have to add oil, right? So, in the end you are going to need to wash the brushes with solvents, right? Or I'm getting this wrong?
Simply substitute the oil you would use as a medium for one of the watersolulable mediums (in the video I use Cobras quick dry medium, which is the leanest but they also have 'painting medium' and 'glazing medium' which have higher oil contents AND the built in emulsifier) so you still don't need to use solvents 👍 any brand that makes watersolulable oils also usual has mediums in their range.
Thankyou! I tell you what though if he turned out awful I probably would have refilmed 😅 every artist has good and bad days when you take away helpful tools like sketching or guidelines, so remember that when watching online stuff 💕
Oh, what a nice video. Very inspirational. And you answered all the questions I had about Cobras. I did learn that these paints mix better with water than other mixable oil paints... from watching other TH-cams. I'd love to see more videos about Cobra and I love how loose and expressive your kingfisher turned out! I liked and subscribed.
I know it's been a while but I just posted a part two testing the cobra water-mixable oils in a layered painting with glazing❤ just in case you wanted to know 😊
@Liz Gridley - Artist Yeah, you do have a way with birds for sure, and who doesn't love birds??? (Except maybe Tippi Hedren, but you are likely way too young for that Hitchkockian reference!)
One of my most favorite birds and you did it so beautifully! Thank you for such an informative video. Hooked on watercolor, but I have been buying and stock piling this brand for several years waiting to get the gumption to try it out and they feel just as fresh in the tubes as the day I bought them. Hard to believe the cost of these paints today, but they are so worth it! Subscribed and going to check out the rest of your videos!
Honestly dive in with just two colours 💕 a dark and a light and have a go it's really so much less stress than watercolour (at least for me 😅 oils you can always wipe off or go back, watercolour once it's there it's there - I find that so stressful! 😆)
Also I just did a sequel to this video where I do a black and white underpainting! That might be helpful for seeing them paint so easily with just two tubes! 💕
Thank you Liz, inspiring for a beginner in everything and lovely to see the result from working on paper too. I am aiming to paint solvent free - I learnt recently that odourless solvent is even worse because you can't smell the impact of the fumes in the studio space.
The more you can restrict solvent use the better - I still use traditional oils too but I use solvents only for cleaning up at the end of the session & leave the studio with an ajar window so it can vent easily without me sitting in any fumes - as long as you can do the best you can for you, it limits how much exposure you could be under.
@@herrmosa918due to the emulsifier waste water is similar to acrylics, better to be wiped as much as possible on rags or pair towel to be disposed of in the normal bin then minimal going down the sink in rinsing (sorry I missed this comment!)
Excellent information. Just like you, I wondered where the name Cobra came from. Thanks for solving that riddle for me. I just bought some Cobra Study paints to try out and see how I like the water mixable oils. I've had trying water mixable oils in the back of my mind for several years, holding off since I always have so many regular oil paints and mediums, and finally decided to take the plunge! I've been painting a lot with acrylics but, you just can't mix and blend acrylic like you can with oil paint. Your demo of the little bird gives me hope. Thanks for taking the time to share with us!
No worries!! ❤️ Good luck I hope you have fun with them! Also remember you can always use your acrylics for an underlayer, they are fine underneath oils (you just can't use them over any oil) - especially for a large work it's a great way to block in your shapes/large areas then use the oil above for the beautiful blendability, colour mixing and glazes 😊
I know it's been a while but to answer your question about having many traditional oils there's a new medium by Cobra you can use to make them water-mixable!! I just uploaded a part two video which uses it!!
It varies a bit by the pigment used, I paint pretty thin so 3-5 days on average (I've also used their quick dry medium which keeps it a more consistent 3 days) 👍
Correct! I didn't really need to thin the paint very much, just help it blend a bit and make the drying time faster. I used water to clean my brush though!
I love the Cobra paints! They are a revelation after all of my frustrating experiences with other brands of stiff, unworkable paint, the Cobras are soft and buttery. Quick question: you painted on pastel paper, doesn’t the tooth chew up your brushes?
This is the 'colourfix smooth' art spectrum made a less toothy version of their paper and I find it perfect for oils 💕 it feels like painting on fine suede
Yes a protective coat would be a varnish! There are lots of different options, you just need to adhere to recommend dry time for the painting first on the varnish bottle. Traditional varnishes for oils like Damar varnish ask that painting is dry for 6-12 months before varnishing I love using Gamvar varnish(by Gamblin) this is an breathing/open varnish which lets the linseed oil continue to cure through the varnish. It comes in gloss, satin & matte finishes, Artwork is touch dry when you can press your fingernail into the thickest paint but and it doesn't dent.
Oh that wasn't my experience but boo that sounds no fun at all - often I'll just buy a black and white rather than a set of a new brand to test if I'm suspicious, might be a money saver next time?
@@LizGridleyArtist Thanks for the reply, I live in Brisbane and started painting with oils using Montmarte oils, which are cheap "student grade" quality. The pigment load is much better in Montmarte oils than what I've found in Cobra, specially the Titanium white of which I bought a large tube, I think it was like 250 ml or so. I do not like that it takes many weeks to dry and they dry to a plasticky very shiny finish. So I went back to Montmarte, Winton and the artist grade Winsor & Newton. Your videos are good, however you need a little work to get rid of the upspeak to improve the quality of the videos, take care.
as I paint fairly thin it was only about 3 days to full touch dry - my swatch sheet with the thick blobs I left on the shelf for a month before poking*some colours still a bit spongey (they didn't have the medim mixed in)
Absolutly, I think these will be most useful when I am painting out and about - there's too many tubes i love in my normal oils to replace them completely
In theory yes, as they are still an oil drying to a hard resin paint it should layer fine but my gut instinct would be to NOT use any water in the paint whilst painting, only use water for clean up. I would probably avoid mediums so as to not get the fat/lean content wrong between layers and just stick with paint straight from the tube too.
It's definetly recommend the medium during painting, if your brushes didn't rinse dolly in the water they might need a little soap to get the pigment out - I hope that's helpful! Otherwise message the company over social media because the paints definetly shouldn't harm your brushes
They still contain artists quality pigments which all have their own risk factors (such as cadmiums being carcinogenic when sand papered/turned to dust in the air) but the main thing they remove is use of solvents in cleaning. So when cleaning they have less risk than normal oils.
In the time you'd like it to? Some oil colours take a lot longer than others as their base pigments can be slow dryers... Did you mix any mediums in our use the paint straight? If it's very thick oil paint (normal or water mixable) can take 6 months to dry
But, if you're layering, you still have to add oil, right? So, in the end you are going to need to wash the brushes with solvents, right? Or I'm getting this wrong?
Simply substitute the oil you would use as a medium for one of the watersolulable mediums (in the video I use Cobras quick dry medium, which is the leanest but they also have 'painting medium' and 'glazing medium' which have higher oil contents AND the built in emulsifier) so you still don't need to use solvents 👍 any brand that makes watersolulable oils also usual has mediums in their range.
Not sure if you are still interested but I just posted a second video 'Try&Testing' the vibes take including more of their mediums 👍
Thanks, Liz, for the video. Love your kingfisher. No sketch outline and simply paint direct. That is skill and confidence.
Thankyou! I tell you what though if he turned out awful I probably would have refilmed 😅 every artist has good and bad days when you take away helpful tools like sketching or guidelines, so remember that when watching online stuff 💕
@LizGridleyArtist
I can well understand the feeling. If I were you and he turned out not up to scratch, I wouldn't show him to anyone.
Very nice works. Thanks from New Zealand 🦋
Thankyou so much ☺️ hoping to do a second video on glazing soon!
Glazing video complete and uploaded 😊
Oh, what a nice video. Very inspirational. And you answered all the questions I had about Cobras. I did learn that these paints mix better with water than other mixable oil paints... from watching other TH-cams. I'd love to see more videos about Cobra and I love how loose and expressive your kingfisher turned out! I liked and subscribed.
Thankyou so much!! Yes I've bought some Holbein Water mixables oils but am eager to try a few more brands, thankyou so much for your comment ❤️
I know it's been a while but I just posted a part two testing the cobra water-mixable oils in a layered painting with glazing❤ just in case you wanted to know 😊
Such a pleasure watching you paint..confidence and colour..a beautiful painting.
That's so lovely thankyou!
Would love to see a glazing video with water mixable oils
Oooh after painting Alla Prima with them for a month that's a fantastic idea - I'll pop it on the list, thankyou!
I know it's been a while but this question never left my mind! My latest upload is a part two all about glazing! 🎉
Wow - that kingfisher really turned out beautifully - and the Cobra paints look like a good choice for avoiding solvents!
Thankyou!!! I really need to paint more birds, their colours are just stunning the way the feathers layer ❤️
@Liz Gridley - Artist Yeah, you do have a way with birds for sure, and who doesn't love birds??? (Except maybe Tippi Hedren, but you are likely way too young for that Hitchkockian reference!)
One of my most favorite birds and you did it so beautifully! Thank you for such an informative video. Hooked on watercolor, but I have been buying and stock piling this brand for several years waiting to get the gumption to try it out and they feel just as fresh in the tubes as the day I bought them. Hard to believe the cost of these paints today, but they are so worth it! Subscribed and going to check out the rest of your videos!
Honestly dive in with just two colours 💕 a dark and a light and have a go it's really so much less stress than watercolour (at least for me 😅 oils you can always wipe off or go back, watercolour once it's there it's there - I find that so stressful! 😆)
Also I just did a sequel to this video where I do a black and white underpainting! That might be helpful for seeing them paint so easily with just two tubes! 💕
Thank you Liz, inspiring for a beginner in everything and lovely to see the result from working on paper too. I am aiming to paint solvent free - I learnt recently that odourless solvent is even worse because you can't smell the impact of the fumes in the studio space.
The more you can restrict solvent use the better - I still use traditional oils too but I use solvents only for cleaning up at the end of the session & leave the studio with an ajar window so it can vent easily without me sitting in any fumes - as long as you can do the best you can for you, it limits how much exposure you could be under.
I find the Cobra oils far superior to other water mixables I’ve used… Thanks for sharing.. you’re a very competent painter…😊❤
Now I want to try them! I do love the Van Gogh watercolors too. I suggest Murphy's Oil Soap for washing out water-mixable oil brushes!
Oooh thankyou! I'll have to hunt that down - I also just got the new Cobra brush soap to try!
what do u do with dirty rugs? if i use paper towls can i throw them to garbage? what about waste water?@@LizGridleyArtist
@@herrmosa918due to the emulsifier waste water is similar to acrylics, better to be wiped as much as possible on rags or pair towel to be disposed of in the normal bin then minimal going down the sink in rinsing (sorry I missed this comment!)
Thanks Liz, appreciate your time.
Excellent information. Just like you, I wondered where the name Cobra came from. Thanks for solving that riddle for me. I just bought some Cobra Study paints to try out and see how I like the water mixable oils. I've had trying water mixable oils in the back of my mind for several years, holding off since I always have so many regular oil paints and mediums, and finally decided to take the plunge! I've been painting a lot with acrylics but, you just can't mix and blend acrylic like you can with oil paint. Your demo of the little bird gives me hope. Thanks for taking the time to share with us!
No worries!! ❤️ Good luck I hope you have fun with them! Also remember you can always use your acrylics for an underlayer, they are fine underneath oils (you just can't use them over any oil) - especially for a large work it's a great way to block in your shapes/large areas then use the oil above for the beautiful blendability, colour mixing and glazes 😊
I know it's been a while but to answer your question about having many traditional oils there's a new medium by Cobra you can use to make them water-mixable!! I just uploaded a part two video which uses it!!
Thank you very much for sharing 😊 I'm starting now with cobra and I'm excited.
Fantastic!! Have fun with them 💕
Thank you for this information,I just bought some water mix oils nice demo!
Yay!! Have fun with even two colours to get a feel to start, thankyou so much I hope you enjoy them 😊
Hello Liz, thx for the intro to the paints! What about drying times compared to convent oil paints? Cheers, Jochen
It varies a bit by the pigment used, I paint pretty thin so 3-5 days on average (I've also used their quick dry medium which keeps it a more consistent 3 days) 👍
Beautiful video and lovely entertainement
! Didnt know your profile before but I subscribe immediately!
Thankyou so much!!
Yes glazing,amazing
yes!! they even have a glazing medim for it!
New part two video on glazing specifically just got uploaded ❤ just in case that's helpful for you!
Beautiful, beautiful king fisher! Did you say you used only the medium and not water?
Correct! I didn't really need to thin the paint very much, just help it blend a bit and make the drying time faster. I used water to clean my brush though!
This was such a nice video! It kinda makes me want to try oil paints again ngl
Thankyou so much ❤️ go for it!!!
I love the Cobra paints! They are a revelation after all of my frustrating experiences with other brands of stiff, unworkable paint, the Cobras are soft and buttery. Quick question: you painted on pastel paper, doesn’t the tooth chew up your brushes?
This is the 'colourfix smooth' art spectrum made a less toothy version of their paper and I find it perfect for oils 💕 it feels like painting on fine suede
@@LizGridleyArtist thanks!
Amazing informative video. Thanks 😊
Thankyou!! I love to research these kinds of things ❤️ definetly an art supply nerd
thank you - your painting is lovely - your palette intrigued me - what is it?
It's an EdgeProGear portable palette/easel I absolutely love it and use it in quite a few configurations! Have a look at some of my Oiltober videos ❤️
If you us linseed, can you use a protecting coat over it?
Yes a protective coat would be a varnish! There are lots of different options, you just need to adhere to recommend dry time for the painting first on the varnish bottle.
Traditional varnishes for oils like Damar varnish ask that painting is dry for 6-12 months before varnishing
I love using Gamvar varnish(by Gamblin) this is an breathing/open varnish which lets the linseed oil continue to cure through the varnish. It comes in gloss, satin & matte finishes, Artwork is touch dry when you can press your fingernail into the thickest paint but and it doesn't dent.
Very helpful 👍
Thankyou ❤️
I bought a set and found that are worse than student grade oils (very low pigment load) and once dried, the painting looks so shiny like plastic.
Oh that wasn't my experience but boo that sounds no fun at all - often I'll just buy a black and white rather than a set of a new brand to test if I'm suspicious, might be a money saver next time?
@@LizGridleyArtist Thanks for the reply, I live in Brisbane and started painting with oils using Montmarte oils, which are cheap "student grade" quality. The pigment load is much better in Montmarte oils than what I've found in Cobra, specially the Titanium white of which I bought a large tube, I think it was like 250 ml or so.
I do not like that it takes many weeks to dry and they dry to a plasticky very shiny finish. So I went back to Montmarte, Winton and the artist grade Winsor & Newton.
Your videos are good, however you need a little work to get rid of the upspeak to improve the quality of the videos, take care.
Cool! Thanks! I was wondering, where did u get your palette?
The one I use in the video is the EdgeProGear easel (I'm just using it laid flat on the table ☺️)
What's the quick dry medium????
It's royal talens: Cobra: quick dry medium 👍
What was the drying time with that fast drying solvent??
as I paint fairly thin it was only about 3 days to full touch dry - my swatch sheet with the thick blobs I left on the shelf for a month before poking*some colours still a bit spongey (they didn't have the medim mixed in)
Maybe I will try it one day also)) but for now I'm suing oil together with thinner like 2 in 1 and it is fine but yeah it has some smell
Absolutly, I think these will be most useful when I am painting out and about - there's too many tubes i love in my normal oils to replace them completely
Do you think the Cobra water soluble paints would work over regular oil paints that had already dried?
In theory yes, as they are still an oil drying to a hard resin paint it should layer fine but my gut instinct would be to NOT use any water in the paint whilst painting, only use water for clean up. I would probably avoid mediums so as to not get the fat/lean content wrong between layers and just stick with paint straight from the tube too.
@@LizGridleyArtist Thank you! That sounds logical to me.
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However as a beginner I do have some queries and will be grateful if you have the time to explain? Thanks and regards.
You're welcome to leave questions in the comments! 😊
A part two video has just gone up, hopefully it might help some of your questions?
Thank you.
No worries ❤️
Can I ask what brand of brushes you use?
All sorts! I use mainly cheap taklon brushes (nylon) they last fine when using the water mixable oils (they wear faster using solvents)
Do they have an odor?
No more than other oil paints, don't smell of nothing but they don't smell as much as acrylics
I used these using water and they are sticky and harmed my brushes.
It's definetly recommend the medium during painting, if your brushes didn't rinse dolly in the water they might need a little soap to get the pigment out - I hope that's helpful! Otherwise message the company over social media because the paints definetly shouldn't harm your brushes
They have a toxic?
They still contain artists quality pigments which all have their own risk factors (such as cadmiums being carcinogenic when sand papered/turned to dust in the air) but the main thing they remove is use of solvents in cleaning. So when cleaning they have less risk than normal oils.
The Georgian brand uses hues.
@@learnartwithme3766 Not so good as real pigments.
It just won’t dry
In the time you'd like it to? Some oil colours take a lot longer than others as their base pigments can be slow dryers... Did you mix any mediums in our use the paint straight? If it's very thick oil paint (normal or water mixable) can take 6 months to dry
I find the Cobra oils far superior to other water mixables I’ve used… Thanks for sharing.. you’re a very competent painter…😊❤
Thankyou so much 💕
Thank you
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