I once met a guy who told me he gave up on the show because of the ending line of this episode, "move the island." It was too incredible for him. I told him that in a universe where paralytics walk, cancers heal, ghosts talk to people, black smoke circulates on the island, moving an island doesn't seem more incredible than that to me. You love this univers or not.😁
@DmitryUlybinAbc Hurley is such a generous soul. But I'll never understand why some describe Ben as 'evil'. He's done some very wrong things, just like many of them have, but he's not evil. I consider him an antagonist thruout S2-3. But not so much anymore. For me, his worst things are telling Mikhail to kill Bonnie & Greta... and something else still to come. But even that was meant to happen... to get us to the end.
Another amazing reaction! Looking forward to S5, one of my favourite seasons! For me, and so so many others, LOST is the one TV series that once you finish it, you spend the rest of your life trying to find something as good, and constantly fail.
Me too. I would every once in a while have Dreams that I was a character on both “Desperate Housewives” and “Lost” or living through the eyes of one of the main characters. LOL 😂
You missed boy-Locke's drawing of the Smoke Monster! Lol. My interpretation of Alpert's test of young Locke: 1) Book of Laws = he wants to lead by teaching 2) Compass = he wants to be given direction then lead others 3) Knife = he wants to lead by aggression. Locke choosing the knife is a bad sign he could be hungry for power instead of being a humble leader
This makes a lot of sense. Although there is another important fact about one of the items that I think is the reason Richard asked which item belonged to him, but I cant say yet cause of spoilers.
@@pewburrito you’re forgetting the other items. He also had a comic book, baseball glove and vial of something (possibly sand). If you’ve watched the show, you know which item he was supposed to pick and why.
I think actually he was supposed to pick the book but he picked the knife. He was a hunter, remember, before he was a leader. I think Richard thought something was wrong, but locke just wasn’t ready for the island yet. He did pick the sand and the compass though, showing he was prophetic in some way maybe
OR just out of speculation Elie, Desmond in his flashes saw Aaron get on the helicopter with his mother and naturally assumed it was Claire. He probably really didn’t see Claire. All he saw was a baby in a mother’s arms riding in a helicopter off the Island.
I love the conversation between Hurley & Ben at the pit. Ben freely admits to having shot John there... but denies having directly killed all those folks in the pit. And if you look back... Ben has never said that the order came from him. He has said that he was smart enough not to end up in that pit... and that he once made a decision that cost lots of lives. But that decision that he was referring to can easily mean... because he sided with the Others against Dharma. Not that he himself had ordered it to happen. Is he lying? I believe his conversation with Hurley... he had no reason to lie at that, his lowest point. (When he's otherwise being very candid.)
Thanks for the reaction, Elie! That's what I like about John Locke. By what drives him. What makes him live and see the meaning, see his destiny, following an important goal. This is the most unusual feeling that is inside
I watched your reaction three times when Locke was talking to Horace. 17 years have passed since I first saw it, but I am still fascinated by this dream of Locke. Your reaction is the real dream of all LOST fans. This is exactly the reaction we want! But you even exceed our desires.
Hello, Elie Moses! I wanted to say that you are amazing. I watched a huge number of reactions to LOST, but yours turned out to be the first where I watch every episode in full, except for your broadcasts (sorry, my English is not very good). I'm looking forward to you watching it, because I see and feel that you understand this show perfectly, you are in the same resonance with it, so to speak. All the best and greetings from Russia:) P.S. No, I'm not one-eyed Mikhail Bakunin:DDD
This is such an integral episode of the show... The shape of things to come in the next seasons... Also, Ben and Hurley sharing an Apollo bar is one of my fav scenes in Lost... Such a breather from all the craziness going on
Back in S3 'Further Instructions'... the young undercover officer asked John if he was a hunter or a farmer. John of course said hunter. And Eddie responded, no you are a farmer. Unfortunately that seems to always be Locke's problem... in a nutshell, he's too fixated to see that there is more greatness in being a farmer.
This is how I’d think about the time delay: in an earlier episode we saw Farraday noticing that the payload fired from the freighter arrived after expected, which would suggest at that point the island was behind the outside world, time-wise; the doctor washed up before he died in the outside world, indicating that at that point the island was ahead of time. I’ll say no more 😉
During the game Richard plays with young Locke, Richard wanted him to pick the book of laws. This us discussed in Season 2 when Mr. Eko "gifts" the old testament (aka. The book of Laws) as Eko mentions to Locke which contained the missing piece of film reel. There is another reason Richard seems upset by the selection but I'll save that for another day.
This episode takes place between days 98-99 on the island. Not that long but it does seem like a lifetime ago they were taking that hike to get a clear signal from that radio only to hear Rousseau’s message. Locke said they have to “move the island”. Could the island have always been moving? Might be why time works differently on the island.
I'm making Lost themed tarot cards and wearing a Geronimo Jackson T shirt while I watch your reaction😂 🌴❤️🌴 edit: think my Lost rewatch count is over 20 lol
Around this episode, that was the time I became so very interested in Richard's character. Can't wait to see you react to more scenes with him 🎉. He's easily in my top 10 characters ❤
Best as I can explain ... the doctor's body floated to shore not following the bearing.. so his body arrived before he actually died. The Island and freighter are in sync, it's all about the bearing. Remember the chopper got blown off the bearing in the storm and they arrived a day late. It's like that but backward. If you don't follow the bearing correctly, you hop one way or the other through time... they're trying to spell it out for you without saying the words "time travel." They are attempting to be cagey. And some of that is because ABC execs didn't want the show to be "too sci-fi" so they were dribbling it in. This was Richard's grand return to Lost and a sigh of relief for the creators. They had huge plans for the character when he was introduced in season 3 but he was then cast on another show. But during the writers strike in the US the other show was canceled, freeing him up, so they could proceed with the plan. Again... I'll say more about Claire once we get to the S5 premiere. There's more to say.
I don't think you are correct. The island and the boat can't be in synch otherwise the doctor couldn't be both alive and dead. The island is, in simpler terms, ahead of the boat.
@@TiagoFerreira-zp9gi There's evidence later in the series that that's not true. When Elie gets past next episode which features Sayid on the zodiac, as well as 316 and LeFluer I can explain better without spoiling him. But no. It's the bearing. If they take the bearing correctly, they arrive when they are supposed to. If they don't, there is time dilation. Doc Ray's body floated the wrong way. and he arrived before he died.
@@TiagoFerreira-zp9gi They are one million percent in sync or else they would not be able to call each other. That's the ENTIRE point of the payload scene in The Economist: to show us that so we later understand. Dan and Regina are live on the phone with each other, he hears her launch the payload and they're clocks are synchronized; she counts down, it doesn't arrive when it's supposed to; it later arrives out of nowhere a half hour late and the clocks are no longer in sync. The doctor can be both alive and dead BECAUSE HE'S ALIVE WHEN THEY CALL TO SAY HIS DEAD BODY WASHED UP. He was killed, got pushed in the water, and floated to shore along the wrong bearing. His body traveled a day back in time. It's all spelled out for us. Trust me I've watched these episodes a dozen times over the last 18 years. They all exist in the same time but if you don't travel to the island from the right direction there's a time jump. There's a season 5 episode which he hasn't gotten to yet that reinforces it.
Geronimo Jackson? We've seen them before a couple of times on an album in the hatch. Charlie and Sayid said that they never heard of them. Also, in Locke's flashback, the undercover officer was wearing the band's t-shirt and the compound leader noticed and said that "He had excellent taste in music" So this is something to watch perhaps in the future. Locke was clearly a fan of the band.
I took John choosing the knife as a nod to John always wanting to be/believing he's a hunter, and not a farmer (from that S3 sweat lodge episode). I guess the vial of ash was the correct choice? As it surrounds the cabin.
theres a grandfather paradox between Locke and Richard in S5 that explains probably the correct answer of which item "already belongs to you", as it has no apparent first-origin
"Move the island". Could it be a reference to the old "Get Smart" episode from Season 4, Episode 12, "Schwartz's Island"? Probably not, but it is still an interesting island moving parallel. Maybe the writers of this particular episode remembered "Get Smart" fondly. In case you want to watch it, I figure I should give you a synopsis of the series since I'm referencing a season 4 episode and the show ran from 1965-1970. "Get Smart" is a spoof of the secret agent genre of movies that were popular at the time. It was created by comedy greats Mel Brooks and Buck Henry, so you know it has to be funny. The show follows Agent Maxwell Smart of CONTROL, a secret government spy agency. Max is about as inept as a person can possibly be, but has the uncanny knack of continually beating their opponent, the rival spy agency KAOS (the bad guys). In this episode, Max and his partner, Agent 99, had recently gotten married.
Imagine missing just 1 episode, would be hard to follow it. Thats why Lost started to lose viewers around this season, it was a television show, not a weekly streaming service show so hard to watch back.
I never understood why they built up the Captain, before he was introduced, to be someone intimidating. Not sure if I've just missed something during all my rewatches but he always seemed pretty chill lol.
Whenever anyone questions how Kate could pull off supposedly being pregnant with Aaron when she boarded 815... just look to the opening here. Like Emily, some women hardly show at all... even in the 3rd trimester. So, it is claimable.
So Nestor Carbonell aka Richard starred alongside The great Sarah Michelle Gellar in a show called ringer. Smg plays twins. It was a really good show but it was only 1 season
One of best episodes. Buckle Up because Kansas is about to go bye bye. But of course you already know thet because you already started Season 5 and your brain is probably like jello already.
Yaaaas 2nd - Also, Alex did have to die, everything that happens in this show has to happen, that's the nature of destiny. If these events don't happen then Destiny cant be fulfilled.
if Hurley, one of the most sad about Charlie's death, hadn't told Charlie to let Mikhail go instead of killing him, then Mikhail wouldn't have killed Charlie later by drowning
it's so funny that you said "everyone and their dog" has interacted with Christian.... there was actually a deleted Christian/Vincent scene that I think's still floating around online somewhere, so yes, he did interact with the dog too
The “missing pieces” series. It’s on TH-cam. There’s a handful of scenes that tie in to the scenes on the show. One of them was a detailed scene of Juliet telling jack what Ben was making her do (gather lists of the pregnant women) back in season 3.
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I once met a guy who told me he gave up on the show because of the ending line of this episode, "move the island." It was too incredible for him. I told him that in a universe where paralytics walk, cancers heal, ghosts talk to people, black smoke circulates on the island, moving an island doesn't seem more incredible than that to me. You love this univers or not.😁
20 years and I never got the "pitstop" joke.
Hurley sharing his chocolate bar with Ben is such a great little moment.
Good thing he didn't have a hot pocket.
I like that Hurley gave him most of the chocolate, and even in a package. And by the way, Ben doesn't seem so terrible here
@DmitryUlybinAbc Hurley is such a generous soul. But I'll never understand why some describe Ben as 'evil'. He's done some very wrong things, just like many of them have, but he's not evil. I consider him an antagonist thruout S2-3. But not so much anymore. For me, his worst things are telling Mikhail to kill Bonnie & Greta... and something else still to come. But even that was meant to happen... to get us to the end.
Richard is one of my favorite LOST mysteries
Man this episode is absolutely important in order to understand Locke’s destiny. Keep it in mind for the next two seasons 🫠
"Because Destiny John, is a fickle b1tch" is such a great line. Ben/Michael Emmerson really shines in this episode.
“What happened to them?”
He did.
😂
Another amazing reaction! Looking forward to S5, one of my favourite seasons! For me, and so so many others, LOST is the one TV series that once you finish it, you spend the rest of your life trying to find something as good, and constantly fail.
For us LOSTIE repeat watchers S5 is the tie that binds us.... if you live S5 you love LOST 4 life IMO.
This is so true. Nothing (apart from DARK) can ever match what LOST did.
About 15 years ago i used to watch so much Lost on repeat that at night i dreamed episodes that were never even filmed 😂.
Me too. I would every once in a while have Dreams that I was a character on both “Desperate Housewives” and “Lost” or living through the eyes of one of the main characters. LOL 😂
Ben really on his comedy tour this season 😆
You missed boy-Locke's drawing of the Smoke Monster! Lol. My interpretation of Alpert's test of young Locke: 1) Book of Laws = he wants to lead by teaching 2) Compass = he wants to be given direction then lead others 3) Knife = he wants to lead by aggression. Locke choosing the knife is a bad sign he could be hungry for power instead of being a humble leader
This makes a lot of sense. Although there is another important fact about one of the items that I think is the reason Richard asked which item belonged to him, but I cant say yet cause of spoilers.
@@philliplopez3440 I was wondering why that particular object wasn’t mentioned.
@@pewburrito you’re forgetting the other items. He also had a comic book, baseball glove and vial of something (possibly sand).
If you’ve watched the show, you know which item he was supposed to pick and why.
I think actually he was supposed to pick the book but he picked the knife. He was a hunter, remember, before he was a leader. I think Richard thought something was wrong, but locke just wasn’t ready for the island yet. He did pick the sand and the compass though, showing he was prophetic in some way maybe
@@beatricemcgarvey1198 no, it wasn’t the book.
RIP Lance Riddick. Such a legendary performance for so little screen time.
Minute 12:30 Richard looks at Locke's drawing of black smoke😱
Christian slowly became the most important character of the series
@@gabrielapat2671 I would say impactful.
@TomOnTheRun Yeah, that's better.
OR just out of speculation Elie, Desmond in his flashes saw Aaron get on the helicopter with his mother and naturally assumed it was Claire. He probably really didn’t see Claire. All he saw was a baby in a mother’s arms riding in a helicopter off the Island.
I love the conversation between Hurley & Ben at the pit. Ben freely admits to having shot John there... but denies having directly killed all those folks in the pit. And if you look back... Ben has never said that the order came from him. He has said that he was smart enough not to end up in that pit... and that he once made a decision that cost lots of lives. But that decision that he was referring to can easily mean... because he sided with the Others against Dharma. Not that he himself had ordered it to happen.
Is he lying? I believe his conversation with Hurley... he had no reason to lie at that, his lowest point. (When he's otherwise being very candid.)
Thanks for the reaction, Elie! That's what I like about John Locke. By what drives him. What makes him live and see the meaning, see his destiny, following an important goal. This is the most unusual feeling that is inside
Richard's test where he had John pick out something that belonged to him is similar to how the Tibetan Buddhists select a new Dalai Lama.
Yup. I read a lot blogs the week this episode came out that dissected this scene. Many different ways to interpret the interaction.
I watched your reaction three times when Locke was talking to Horace. 17 years have passed since I first saw it, but I am still fascinated by this dream of Locke. Your reaction is the real dream of all LOST fans. This is exactly the reaction we want! But you even exceed our desires.
All these years later and I still rewatch that scene trying to find new clues.
Hello, Elie Moses! I wanted to say that you are amazing. I watched a huge number of reactions to LOST, but yours turned out to be the first where I watch every episode in full, except for your broadcasts (sorry, my English is not very good). I'm looking forward to you watching it, because I see and feel that you understand this show perfectly, you are in the same resonance with it, so to speak. All the best and greetings from Russia:) P.S. No, I'm not one-eyed Mikhail Bakunin:DDD
@Kailic69 thank youu soo much that means the world God Bless 💜💜💜💜
This is such an integral episode of the show... The shape of things to come in the next seasons... Also, Ben and Hurley sharing an Apollo bar is one of my fav scenes in Lost... Such a breather from all the craziness going on
My favourite episode of Lost 😊 let's go
Back in S3 'Further Instructions'... the young undercover officer asked John if he was a hunter or a farmer. John of course said hunter. And Eddie responded, no you are a farmer. Unfortunately that seems to always be Locke's problem... in a nutshell, he's too fixated to see that there is more greatness in being a farmer.
This is how I’d think about the time delay: in an earlier episode we saw Farraday noticing that the payload fired from the freighter arrived after expected, which would suggest at that point the island was behind the outside world, time-wise; the doctor washed up before he died in the outside world, indicating that at that point the island was ahead of time. I’ll say no more 😉
yep, remember Daniel’s package drop from regina. the timing was all off from when it was supposed to land on the island.
I love your description of Richard as the 'ultimate other' LOL so true
Good deductions about Richard and Matthew Abaddon both trying to 'recruit' Locke from two different sides. You are certainly paying close attention!
“Love parallelogram” LOL. Please god no love dodecahedron! 😂😂😂
During the game Richard plays with young Locke, Richard wanted him to pick the book of laws. This us discussed in Season 2 when Mr. Eko "gifts" the old testament (aka. The book of Laws) as Eko mentions to Locke which contained the missing piece of film reel. There is another reason Richard seems upset by the selection but I'll save that for another day.
That scene with Horis is wild
This episode takes place between days 98-99 on the island. Not that long but it does seem like a lifetime ago they were taking that hike to get a clear signal from that radio only to hear Rousseau’s message.
Locke said they have to “move the island”. Could the island have always been moving? Might be why time works differently on the island.
I'm making Lost themed tarot cards and wearing a Geronimo Jackson T shirt while I watch your reaction😂
🌴❤️🌴 edit: think my Lost rewatch count is over 20 lol
Around this episode, that was the time I became so very interested in Richard's character. Can't wait to see you react to more scenes with him 🎉. He's easily in my top 10 characters ❤
How cool is Richard character... Pretty cool as you can see now! :-)
Best as I can explain ... the doctor's body floated to shore not following the bearing.. so his body arrived before he actually died. The Island and freighter are in sync, it's all about the bearing.
Remember the chopper got blown off the bearing in the storm and they arrived a day late. It's like that but backward. If you don't follow the bearing correctly, you hop one way or the other through time... they're trying to spell it out for you without saying the words "time travel." They are attempting to be cagey.
And some of that is because ABC execs didn't want the show to be "too sci-fi" so they were dribbling it in.
This was Richard's grand return to Lost and a sigh of relief for the creators. They had huge plans for the character when he was introduced in season 3 but he was then cast on another show. But during the writers strike in the US the other show was canceled, freeing him up, so they could proceed with the plan.
Again... I'll say more about Claire once we get to the S5 premiere. There's more to say.
I don't think you are correct. The island and the boat can't be in synch otherwise the doctor couldn't be both alive and dead. The island is, in simpler terms, ahead of the boat.
@@TiagoFerreira-zp9gi There's evidence later in the series that that's not true. When Elie gets past next episode which features Sayid on the zodiac, as well as 316 and LeFluer I can explain better without spoiling him. But no. It's the bearing. If they take the bearing correctly, they arrive when they are supposed to. If they don't, there is time dilation. Doc Ray's body floated the wrong way. and he arrived before he died.
@@TiagoFerreira-zp9gi They are one million percent in sync or else they would not be able to call each other. That's the ENTIRE point of the payload scene in The Economist: to show us that so we later understand. Dan and Regina are live on the phone with each other, he hears her launch the payload and they're clocks are synchronized; she counts down, it doesn't arrive when it's supposed to; it later arrives out of nowhere a half hour late and the clocks are no longer in sync.
The doctor can be both alive and dead BECAUSE HE'S ALIVE WHEN THEY CALL TO SAY HIS DEAD BODY WASHED UP. He was killed, got pushed in the water, and floated to shore along the wrong bearing. His body traveled a day back in time. It's all spelled out for us. Trust me I've watched these episodes a dozen times over the last 18 years.
They all exist in the same time but if you don't travel to the island from the right direction there's a time jump. There's a season 5 episode which he hasn't gotten to yet that reinforces it.
Geronimo Jackson? We've seen them before a couple of times on an album in the hatch. Charlie and Sayid said that they never heard of them. Also, in Locke's flashback, the undercover officer was wearing the band's t-shirt and the compound leader noticed and said that "He had excellent taste in music" So this is something to watch perhaps in the future. Locke was clearly a fan of the band.
I'm guessing Elie already forgot about the rocket thing that Daniel tested that was launch from the freighter and he didn't receive in time.
José Mourinho will always be the "The Special One". :)
That richard jump scare lmao!!
We’re moving it, man 😏
30:11 In the Lost deleted scene on the dvds Vincent runs into Christian 😂
Has anyone ever played "Half-Life"?
I've always seen that "Alpert through the window" scene as G-Man creeping around after Gordon Freeman.
Christian and Claire chilling in the cabin is just flat out creepy af.
Ah yes, "Christian," this is where the fun begins 😎
I took John choosing the knife as a nod to John always wanting to be/believing he's a hunter, and not a farmer (from that S3 sweat lodge episode).
I guess the vial of ash was the correct choice? As it surrounds the cabin.
theres a grandfather paradox between Locke and Richard in S5 that explains probably the correct answer of which item "already belongs to you", as it has no apparent first-origin
@@pewburrito ah yes
"Move the island". Could it be a reference to the old "Get Smart" episode from Season 4, Episode 12, "Schwartz's Island"? Probably not, but it is still an interesting island moving parallel. Maybe the writers of this particular episode remembered "Get Smart" fondly.
In case you want to watch it, I figure I should give you a synopsis of the series since I'm referencing a season 4 episode and the show ran from 1965-1970. "Get Smart" is a spoof of the secret agent genre of movies that were popular at the time. It was created by comedy greats Mel Brooks and Buck Henry, so you know it has to be funny. The show follows Agent Maxwell Smart of CONTROL, a secret government spy agency. Max is about as inept as a person can possibly be, but has the uncanny knack of continually beating their opponent, the rival spy agency KAOS (the bad guys). In this episode, Max and his partner, Agent 99, had recently gotten married.
Remember, Jack asked Daniel WHEN he last saw the doctor after he was washed up on the beach. Daniel’s reply was, “WHEN is relative.”
..Duh
Imagine missing just 1 episode, would be hard to follow it. Thats why Lost started to lose viewers around this season, it was a television show, not a weekly streaming service show so hard to watch back.
I never understood why they built up the Captain, before he was introduced, to be someone intimidating. Not sure if I've just missed something during all my rewatches but he always seemed pretty chill lol.
Yeah, definitely something changed in the script because he ended up being a non entity.
@@John_Locke_108 Absolutely! I kind of feel like maybe initially Keamy was the captain or something lol.
Whenever anyone questions how Kate could pull off supposedly being pregnant with Aaron when she boarded 815... just look to the opening here. Like Emily, some women hardly show at all... even in the 3rd trimester. So, it is claimable.
My 15 year old sister was 6 months pregnant before any of us knew
This makes me think that you really are John Locke!
I'll just say things are not what they seem to be. No spoilers. March on.
Maybe it is the Sickness Danielle talked about, but Claire hasn't acted like herself lately. Could she be "Infected?
So Nestor Carbonell aka Richard starred alongside The great Sarah Michelle Gellar in a show called ringer. Smg plays twins. It was a really good show but it was only 1 season
One of best episodes. Buckle Up because Kansas is about to go bye bye.
But of course you already know thet because you already started Season 5 and your brain is probably like jello already.
Bro do a double upload. Your behind lol
By the way you we’re smiling all episode
Yaaaas 2nd - Also, Alex did have to die, everything that happens in this show has to happen, that's the nature of destiny. If these events don't happen then Destiny cant be fulfilled.
if Hurley, one of the most sad about Charlie's death, hadn't told Charlie to let Mikhail go instead of killing him, then Mikhail wouldn't have killed Charlie later by drowning
And then so much of the rest of the show would happen differently, it's so crazy how good this show is
Where are you, Elie!? We need your season 4 ending!!!!
Are we getting back to back today?
it's so funny that you said "everyone and their dog" has interacted with Christian.... there was actually a deleted Christian/Vincent scene that I think's still floating around online somewhere, so yes, he did interact with the dog too
I'm pretty sure that scene was included with the bonus stuff on the Season 6 DVD. Actually a really cool scene.
It is one of the 13 Missing Pieces videos that were made before Season 4.
The “missing pieces” series. It’s on TH-cam. There’s a handful of scenes that tie in to the scenes on the show. One of them was a detailed scene of Juliet telling jack what Ben was making her do (gather lists of the pregnant women) back in season 3.
1st!!
Keamy is the worst. Nothing good about him. ("You want eggs" - Losties - Ok, that was him at his best)
Man, Martin Keamy was such a hated antagonist this season. He was so hated he never got a single ounce of backstory. NONE.
I hate when Lost becomes Sci fi esp this season onwards
“When the boys grew up, Esau became a skillful hunter, a man of the field; but Jacob was a civilized man, living in tents.”
Genesis 25:27