The best upgrade the ZC33S can receive is an LSD, then an upgraded engine mount and 20/25mm lowering springs and maybe aluminum gear lever bushings to improve shift feel and precision. After that a Stage1 tune to about 170hp. And there you have it, an old school hot-hatch without going bankrupt.
@@KiwiCarLife You've put a spanner in the works for me as i was really considering the auto but after you mentioned about the chopping down when not needed then that really kills it. Is there a hold button or something to lock it in?
@@HashDogg06the auto is pretty good most of the time, as far as autos go, but it's still an auto and will make the wrong decision from time to time. It's not something that's a big deal when you're just driving around in traffic, just occasionally annoying when you've got some twisty empty road in front of you and want to give it some. It's slightly faster to 100 than the manual, (obviously) easier to live with in traffic, and sits about 500rpm lower in the rev range at 100kph so it's slightly quieter on the motorway too. As someone who has owned both, I'd suggest you take both for a test drive and give them a good work out. Both transmissions are good, they're just good for different reasons.
Test drove one in 2018 when they first came out and immediately bought one, manual transmission of course. Everything you said is true. A fantastic, fun drive on twisty back roads! Still loving it now. I have changed the wheels out to allow the use of higher profile tyres. Now 205/55 R15 instead of the stock 195/45 R17 resulting in no change to gearing. Now has a much quieter more comfortable ride with no obvious loss of steering precision.
Over the yrs ive owned 6 SSS in total. 1, zc31s - 2, zc32s and 3, zc33s all in manual and i absolutely loved them all. The only reason i got rid of the last one was due to my daughter being born so i needed more room but, as soon as shes out of the pram and car seat im definitely buying another one.
@YuichiTamaki personally the 32s is my favorite, i like the round shape more than the boxy look from the other 2, and those headlights 😍 🤤.. Followed by the 33s and then the 31s. All 3 are bloody brilliant fun tho!
@@MrrNacho The Swift Sport should be able to fit a car seat no problem. Ditch the pram in favour of a baby carrier harness. They are far more practical and take up almost no space. There's a reason they were used for thousands of years before prams were invented, and are still in widespread use today.
I'm sorry English is not my first language, but I've always seen youngsters use the word elite a lot, but what does it mean in your slang? I know the dictionary definition, that's why this kind of usage confuses me.
@@philipsab.mp4 elite in slang terms means something is very very good, in some examples it means you think it’s better than everything else. For example if I were describing my favourite fruit with this word, I would say “Mango is just elite” so we’re using it in the same context almost as calling a person elite, but using it to describe an object instead. :) I hope this helps
I bought one. Was surprised how fast it was, especially when the turbo spins up. Big smile on your face as the 'whoosh' comes in. | used to own a MK5 Golf Gti Turbo. Honestly, this Suzuki sport feels faster and more fun to drive.
This one hits hard. I just picked up a slightly rough M140i to replace my immaculate Swift Sport that I've owned for the last 2 years. Last weekend was spent removing the upgraded turbo, full exhaust, big intercooler and coilovers from the Swift in preparation for sale. That car made a cool 140kw at the wheels. This is really making me have second thoughts 😢😢😢
Haha I went the other way. From a manual m140i to 2018 swift sport! I don't miss the beamer one bit... You can enjoy the swift at sane speeds. The beamer had a cracking engine note though..
@@DavidChoi1984 thats my main complaint too, the bmw is an absolute weapon but round the suburbs I'm always babying it around. The swift you could have fun with almost everywhere
Yeah as an M135i owner I would agree the swift in general is more fun most of the time. But I do really value the build quality, infotainment, features etc. of the BMW, plus the extra power. I think you made the right choice.
3:55 you are almost correct here my friend, I have the same AMT one and yes it upshifts when you hit redline, but if you have it in (M) MANUAL mode, not (D) DRIVE then it doesn't downshift when you fully press the gas at low rpm😉
Believe me I had it in manual mode and it still does it. Well, tbh I remember sometimes it did and sometimes didn't. It's a great gearbox that's just tuned badly
@iansharp989 any dyno shop that works with alientech i believe can tune them, it's a Bosch ecu There's a couple in Sydney that can, but I got mine tuned in Brisbane I went with an MST intake, but I'd recommend one of the other ones. There's a few around. You want to buy the full kit, not just the pod.
Yeah the owner was telling me basically everything is Bosch on these cars haha. So I'm sure there's plenty of options for tuning. Either that or a remote flash tune. And yeah I reckon a tuned one of these would be absolutely perfect. They just need a touch more from factory
@KiwiCarLife stock they make about 87kw to the wheels. With the above it made 114fwkw The torque jumped to about 270nm For a sub 1000kg car it's very formidable, especially with the short gearing. Protip - shift it at 5k Uses on average 7.5L per 100 with me driving it fairly aggressively There's plenty of aftermarket parts available, particularly in Japan
@@RRR_Motorsports That's a decent whack more power from just a remap, did the RPM limit increase? Also, did you get the same tune to the auto before going to the manual, just hard to say manual is better the if auto was stock vs tuned manual?
I've got the same engine in my Vitara, including Allgrip. With that Allgrip you also get the drivemode selector. Especially on Sport it's really pulling. And the Allgrip gives you so much traction. On the long distances it makes about 15km/L. Absolutely love it.
took the previous model on a spin witha mate up to mount egmont and surrounding roads. Such cool cars and perfect for NZ roads! They are very popular in germany as well :)
Great channel, great to see ya still doin it. The Accord era where you basically did a real life gran turismo 4 career mode is still one of the best build/comparison/review series ever highly recommend anyone who enjoys tuning to go back and watch it from the start. Happy to see the desire to turn the safety rubbish off, just wondering how big you'd like the infotainment screen to be? Personally would'nt want it any bogger than that any more than double din always looks like a tacked on i pad
Nah it's not the screen size it's the operation. Looks like a 10yo OS compared with Honda or Toyota. It's slow and laggy and has a bad UI design. Nothing wrong with the screen size. And yeah the Accord era was a good one. You'll like the video that's coming next! Another Accord rebuild
I bought a 2023 Black Auto in June and so far am loving it, I do agree with the points about the interior and it certainly could use a better exhaust note. I was lucky with mine where they switched out the infotainment system with a kenwood system and it honestly is much better.
Yeah exhaust is completely silent and the infotainment isn't great. If you changed both of them out, and got it to rev a bit higher it would be faultless
You recorded the automatic version of the Swift Sport going 0 to 100 in 6.2 seconds, which is as quick as a Golf GTI. I'm not sure it's fair to call that a warm hatch. According to the tuning firm CTC Performance in the UK, who specialise in modifying Suzuki Swifts, they actually come from the factory with about 115kw on average, which could explain the performance figures.
@@KiwiCarLife Exactly. It's so hard to find new vehicles that aren't massively overweight. A small hatchback shouldn't weigh 1500kg. The first generation Audi S8 was only 1750kg. Now the S8 is over 2200kg.
We in Sri Lanka have the Jdm 1 litre swift boosterjet with possibly the same 6 speed auto as the sport. Many have modified them with the front and rear bumpers from the sport model. Its the last of the small cars with a good old fashioned torque converter auto and the great visibility provided by a Mini like upright and curved windscreen. These cars have personality that is so lacking in small Toyotas and hondas. Thank you for a very entertaining review👍👍👍
I have a ‘22 plate Sport (mild hybrid) as my driving school car. I bought it for its reliability (and of course it’s element of fun). It’s a mixed bag of good and bad. But overall it’s been 100% reliable. The engine also feels quite muscular - great fun on a country road! Some of the build quality is good. No particular rattles. But those plastic coverings each side of the centre console, near your ankle are a joke! It’s not as cohesive a package as a proper hot hatch (steering, atmosphere, seating position, chassis etc)… but overall, i think I made the right choice in terms of robustness, reliability and fun. Great little car that should last longer than some competitors.
Yeah it's a nice middle ground where it's more fun than most of the other crumby hatchbacks like the Jazz, Yaris, Polo etc, but is cheaper to buy and more efficient than a Golf GTi or Renault Clio RS etc.
Very happy with my manual 2022 sport. Daily drive, gets about 17kmpl, and really fun to drive long distance and corners. Servicing is a lot cheaper than euros too.
I quite like them, except of the narrow base of the front seats. Good torque, nice and light and enough power to be fun. Economical too, even if you are being spirited in your driving. Interior is plasticky as you'd expect, and road noise isn't great but that comes with the type of car. When looking at them I tried to find issues with the engine/trans and in these days of internet, if you seek you shall find, but honestly I couldn't find anything negative about either the 1.4T or the 6AT. Seems at this stage to be a pretty solid little engine.
My mother just a 2024 one, its super nice, real carbon is nice to see, they have a plentiful amount of torque, the turbo is really nice, and the auto knows what it's its doing and doesn't feel like a slushbox. Well done Suzuki.
We love our swift best car we have owned not a turbo or a manual but looks good gos good brilliant on gas and fun to drive we would love a manual sport 1 day though
West City Suzuki used to sell a Track edition (Jtune modified version) of the swift sport with pretty much most of hks catalog and other goodies, slapped with tune and full warranty. Think they were around 40kish
A lot of FWD hatches are torsion beam now. The Ford Fiesta ST being a pretty notable one and it's known as one of the finest handling FWD ever. Torsion beam doesn't mean bad but generally to get good handling out of them ride quality suffers
good review ive got the previous model but its only the 1.2 engine but handles really well i would def consider the sport if i ever need to downsize from my civic type r
Fantastic review to show how great these cars are. I'm so happy I get to daily my SSS that's also a manual. Kiwi, out of these 2 swifts. Do you find they both have a notchy shift feel? Like sometimes it can get a little rough if you shift too quickly. 2nd Gear seems to be the most noticable gear.
Nice car, already turbo nowadays, back then it was a 1.6L NA engine, which was better for tuning honestly. Never experienced this model, but I tested the previous NA version, it had very good chassis, I was kinda impressed.
@@KiwiCarLife Actually, 1.6 on its own was more durable, and i bet even more reliable engine, but for higher output, it was difficult and pricey to tune. The 1.4 is much easier to tune for higher hp as any turbo engine.
this is a badly modded one... BOV is over dumping to much pressure and they have that air filter sucking in hot air... It doesn't seem like it's been flash tuned as the boost still only goes 1/2 way.
I test drove a new one when they cane out. It was fun, but I was so disappointed by the engine. When you started revving it, it would hit the redline way too soon. What's the point of a hot hatch with a redline barely over 6k? It just felt like an engine suited for a crossover rather than a hot hatch... which makes sense because it's engine from the Vitara. I guess I'd be way happier with an old Swift Sport. I ended up buying a 2 year old Golf GTI Performance which was a good chunk cheaper anyway!
Many people agrees with your point. I believe it's an emissions related thing. because with a ECU flash they can go up to 7k th-cam.com/video/1RQrgY_1V0Q/w-d-xo.html
The driving experience is probably more fun with the NA 1.6L, although you can't argue with the outright speed of the 1.4L turbo. It's as quick to 100 as a Golf GTI, with a smaller engine that uses less fuel. Keeping the weight under a ton makes a huge difference. Even just a remap will wake up the 1.4L considerably.
Yeah if you could get the 1.4t to rev like the 1.6 but make way more power you'd have a perfect car. I didn't notice it too much, but it would be nice if it went just a little more
When it comes to real world performance, it's not how fast you go, but how slow you don't. The Swift Sport nails that requirement. In a reliable, mechanically durable product. The fuel economy is just a bonus.
Nice, wish we got these in the States! It looks a little like a Mini from the back? I've never even seen a Skoda IRL. James May would probably like this Suzuki too. Personally have a Hyundai Veloster N performance package with -1.0 degree front camber, good luck keeping up mate lol. Cross shopped GTI - boring but good, CTR to many $. Super satisfied with my VN. Hope to see your next post as I know nothing about the New Zealand car scene, very interested though
While the short gearing would be fun for a blast, it becomes tiring here in Australia with its long flats. Recently put higher tyres on my 380, 2000 rpm = a true 120kph, bliss.😅
Hi Liam, if it’s possible, can you please make a video of Mercedes Benz A class? I think it might be very entertaining. It makes me enjoy the car a bit more, your videos are Phenomenal because it makes me value cars more. Keep up the good work.❤❤
BOV install makes it slower, as it dumps boost into atmosphere. It also makes it run excessively rich because you vent metered air. Shouldve spent the money on a good remap... Also, the Jazz is only 180KG lighter than the Civic. I'd rather they put it in a new CR-Z that is preferably a lot lighter than both the Civic and the Jazz...
You maybe thinking of the auto as that doesn't have the lag between gears unlike the manual, i believe this maybe the main reason it is faster to 62mph than the manual. Also i don't think he said the modified car had a remap so could have been better if that is the case.
@@KiwiCarLife The issue is that you blow off boost pressure, so lifting and going back on throttle has a bit more lag. But if the turbo is small you wont notice it as much. The bigger issue is that you vent air that already went past the MAF. So when you put your foot back on the throttle, it injects fuel based on that. You get a lot of rich conditions. So you get more intake + intake valves / EGR / catalytic convertor carbon buildup.
@@HashDogg06It doesn't have a remap. You can tell from the boost gauge as it's not fully going all the way to the top. Totally different car with a remap 😁
I currently have the 33s (auto/paddle) it is a nice to drive and awesome pickup ( the torque can be a pain in the ass at times, tyre spin), I loved my 32s but had less room than the 33s but feel like it handled better than the 33. I just pickup a 31s more fun to drive but it is manual and reminds me of the 32s I had.
@@MrWilliam.Stewart What factory diesels rev to 6,000rpm? It's pretty common that turbocharged engines don't rev that high, because they don't need to. Their main advantage is producing lots of low and mid-range power and torque.
People want peak torque at 2000rpm. The lower redline is the trade-off. Your average suzuki swift customer probably doesn't visit the redline that often so this car will feel so much faster than the previous gens for that customer base
The all new Suzuki Swift Sport Diesel, so advanced it runs on petrol. Despite having the same redline as my old Triton ute, and making as much peak power as a tuned Kei car, I want one. Had me at 930Kg. The fact its diesel engine runs on petrol is just a bonus. Looking forward from the 90s, it would have been hard to imagine a sports tuned 1,372cc Suzuki engine that had a redline lower than a Camry. Oh what a feeling, low rev cut.
I'd love to see a comparison between the Colt ralliart and the zc33s or even the zc32s (especially since I don't think you've reviewed the zc32s before)
@@KiwiCarLife True aye. Js wondering from a budget standpoint (as a 19 year old who wants to buy a sporty manual without car finance/afterpay interest) 😆 I think the last year of the Colt ralliart was also the first year of the zc32s as well
Great car. I also would have loved a bit more power, but it suffices. The entertainment system is below par to put it mildly, and I had mine replaced with a decent system. The wheels for the South African market look different and the set as seen in the video and found elsewhere in the world are not available here.
Yeah agree if you tuned it for more power and changed the infotainment, for the price it would be faultless! Interesting about the wheels! I thought they'd all have the same
My SSS 2024 has a new gen 9 inch infotainment system, wireless carplay and wireless android and USB C connectivity. Great to drive, got the auto as I'm lazy and live in Auckland. The Aisin gearbox is brilliant as its geared more towards a sports feel, when pushed it holds the gearing ready for you to punch it again, makes it very quick in the twisties. Have been told that 33S will be fazed out at the end of 2025, only because of the governments emission, new one, no one knows yet, if so will be a hybrid with a large price increase.
Huh, these look great! I like the grey one in particular. And here I am looking at current model year Swift and wow they completely messed up the looks. Also there's no sport version in sight, not sure if that's just my country or a global thing. I almost thought the Swift would be a good contender for next car but now I'm just very disappointed.
Love the Suzuki swift, great fun and surprisingly quick but I did find the seats to be too narrow; causing the side bolster to dig into your hip and butt. Did you share the same experience?
Yes seats suck, too narrow on the base and Im not a large person. Unfortunately you dont realise this till youve drive it for a couple hours. For me it wasnt the hip, its mid-leg that was the most annoying. Im 182cm and about 85kg. I was delivering the car for mum and she's considerably lighter than me and experiences the same issue. Otherwise I was pretty impressed by it. The turbo torque is excellent for accessible power. Heaps of fun to drive even in auto.
I always wondered what kind of engine Suzuki could make for these if they made a sporty version and let their motorcycle department install a Hayabusa head or something.
@@KiwiCarLife wow you actually replied, nice thanks 💪🏻did you also time the manual? I want to end this debate of "manual vs auto launch" to find which is better for the swift
I genuinely don't understand the 'warm hatch' concept. Oh, I'm 55 years old btw, worked in the motor trade for years, and owned many fast cars (currently in an M2). I don't understand why anyone who wants to drive quickly, would buy a halfway house warm hatch. Even something like a Golf Gti is much quicker, much more fun, and still easily (if not more), practical as a daily. I have driven a few of these Swift Sports, and I find them horrible. The engine is harsh, the gears are clunky, they are not actually very 'sporty', and they are no faster than a none performance hatch. The interior quality is shocking, every knob and button feels like it's going to break off every time you touch them. I have had better quality plastic phone cases than any part of the interior of these. I would not go anywhere near one, after several disappointing drives in them.
I guess it depends what you’re comparing it to, I agree compared with a golf gti this is a step back, but it also costs half as much. I see it as a much better and more fun Jazz/ Yaris, than a worse gti
I totally disagree with the majority of what you are saying. I am 51 and own a Zc33s and previously owned a zc32s. They are both brilliant fun to drive little cars. Yes the interior may not be made of the best quality materials but they are not luxury cars. The build quality is excellent and Suzukis reliability is second to none. The sss is about the closest you get in terms of size and performance to the Astra GTEs, Escort XR3s, Golf GTIs etc of the 80s and 90s. The cars that gave hot hatches their name. In my opinion hot hatches of today have exceeded the term hot hatch, and should be classed as super or hyper hatches🤷
@@PaulDnb If they were around in the 80's and 90's, yes they would have been comparable to the hot hatches of that era, and it would be correct to call them a hot hatch. But times move on, and just because hot hatches are now a lot faster, a lot better handling, and a lot more luxurious today, that does not mean they aren't still hot hatches. They are simply the hot hatches of this era. You can't just keep inventing new names for something which is essentially the same thing as it was, albeit 30 years newer with 30 years of development making it 30 years worth of better. By your opinion, we should call the new RS3 a super-duper-hyper-ultra-hatch ffs. The fact you own one says everything, it's simply a case of 'I haven't owned anything better so I know no different'. Of course you are going to sing the praises of the car you own, like a true fanboy, nobody is going to say 'I spent a lot of money on a car I really liked and it's crap' 🙂
@DjNikGnashers The fact that I own one means i know what I'm talking about lol. My German piece of crap is back with Porsche for the 3rd lot of warranty work in 2 years 🙈
Good cars, but probably only downside is that GDI engine is prone to carbon build up over the years. Also tons of annoying assists, but at least most of them can be turn off.
Why you comapre to Honda, Honda has bigest aftermarket of any other brand and if u need 800hp u can have it for les then 15K... So you cant really compare a Suzuky with an Honda
@@PutinIsKing because I think it would be great if Honda made something like this today. Apart from the civic type R Honda has zero fun small sporty cars
The best upgrade the ZC33S can receive is an LSD, then an upgraded engine mount and 20/25mm lowering springs and maybe aluminum gear lever bushings to improve shift feel and precision. After that a Stage1 tune to about 170hp. And there you have it, an old school hot-hatch without going bankrupt.
Nice, I’d be doing the tune long before an LSD haha but yep agree with the rest
I rented these when I was in New Zealand. Fun little car especially in the mountains. As an American I would love to have one of these in the states.
Yeah man! Great cars
@@mpa1931 The first generation Swift Sports will be eligible to import starting in 2030.
I have a massive soft spot for these, such good looking cars
Yessss they're awesome aye
@@KiwiCarLife You've put a spanner in the works for me as i was really considering the auto but after you mentioned about the chopping down when not needed then that really kills it. Is there a hold button or something to lock it in?
@@HashDogg06the auto is pretty good most of the time, as far as autos go, but it's still an auto and will make the wrong decision from time to time. It's not something that's a big deal when you're just driving around in traffic, just occasionally annoying when you've got some twisty empty road in front of you and want to give it some. It's slightly faster to 100 than the manual, (obviously) easier to live with in traffic, and sits about 500rpm lower in the rev range at 100kph so it's slightly quieter on the motorway too.
As someone who has owned both, I'd suggest you take both for a test drive and give them a good work out. Both transmissions are good, they're just good for different reasons.
@@JaneDoe-ft7ln Its obviously not as good as a dual clutch or a more premium torque converter, but its still better than pretty much any CVT.
yes they are perfect except wish they have interiors comfort like HONDA QUALITY
Test drove one in 2018 when they first came out and immediately bought one, manual transmission of course. Everything you said is true. A fantastic, fun drive on twisty back roads! Still loving it now. I have changed the wheels out to allow the use of higher profile tyres. Now 205/55 R15 instead of the stock 195/45 R17 resulting in no change to gearing. Now has a much quieter more comfortable ride with no obvious loss of steering precision.
Nice man! Yeah a lot of people find the ride quite stiff so that’s a good way to improve that, at the sacrifice of the looks I guess
@@KiwiCarLife Didn't buy it to look at 😀and we live on a gravel road so it's always dirty anyway. Now an awesome little rally car!
"If you bought one, I think you'll love it"
You are certainly correct 😊
Yep!
Hasta que con 188.000km. se le rompe la culata y 14.000km después tengo que volver a sacar el motor porque tiene avería en el bloque.
yes they are perfect except wish they have interiors comfort like HONDA QUALITY
Over the yrs ive owned 6 SSS in total.
1, zc31s - 2, zc32s and 3, zc33s all in manual and i absolutely loved them all. The only reason i got rid of the last one was due to my daughter being born so i needed more room but, as soon as shes out of the pram and car seat im definitely buying another one.
That's cool! which one do you liked the most? I have a 4 door ZC31S and a toddler. It is a tight place but better than taking the BUS/Train.
@YuichiTamaki personally the 32s is my favorite, i like the round shape more than the boxy look from the other 2, and those headlights 😍 🤤..
Followed by the 33s and then the 31s.
All 3 are bloody brilliant fun tho!
Nice man! Still need to try a 2nd gen, might be a nice middle ground.
Why 3 ZC33's?
@@MrrNacho The Swift Sport should be able to fit a car seat no problem. Ditch the pram in favour of a baby carrier harness. They are far more practical and take up almost no space. There's a reason they were used for thousands of years before prams were invented, and are still in widespread use today.
I've driven a rental manual swift sport. It was so much fun to drive. Shifting is so satisfying
Yeah man! Great cars
Getting home from work to a kiwicarlife video is eliteeeee
Amen
Haha glad to hear!
I'm sorry English is not my first language, but I've always seen youngsters use the word elite a lot, but what does it mean in your slang? I know the dictionary definition, that's why this kind of usage confuses me.
@@philipsab.mp4 elite in slang terms means something is very very good, in some examples it means you think it’s better than everything else.
For example if I were describing my favourite fruit with this word, I would say “Mango is just elite”
so we’re using it in the same context almost as calling a person elite, but using it to describe an object instead. :) I hope this helps
@@philipsab.mp4 If someone calls something "elite" its slang for really awesome etc
I'm seriously thinking about buying one of these, and your video popped up at the right time. Definitely sold me on it, thanks bro
Yeah man absolutely recommend
SEO and all that wizardry is real.
I bought one. Was surprised how fast it was, especially when the turbo spins up. Big smile on your face as the 'whoosh' comes in. | used to own a MK5 Golf Gti Turbo. Honestly, this Suzuki sport feels faster and more fun to drive.
Yeah man super fun!
Man this channel is growing on me so fast dude. Chur from Auckland
Thanks man!
This one hits hard. I just picked up a slightly rough M140i to replace my immaculate Swift Sport that I've owned for the last 2 years. Last weekend was spent removing the upgraded turbo, full exhaust, big intercooler and coilovers from the Swift in preparation for sale. That car made a cool 140kw at the wheels. This is really making me have second thoughts 😢😢😢
140kw at the wheels, in
@@John-i1g great little car - really needed the LSD and the stock clutch was also probably not long for this world at that power figure
Haha I went the other way. From a manual m140i to 2018 swift sport! I don't miss the beamer one bit...
You can enjoy the swift at sane speeds. The beamer had a cracking engine note though..
@@DavidChoi1984 thats my main complaint too, the bmw is an absolute weapon but round the suburbs I'm always babying it around. The swift you could have fun with almost everywhere
Yeah as an M135i owner I would agree the swift in general is more fun most of the time. But I do really value the build quality, infotainment, features etc. of the BMW, plus the extra power. I think you made the right choice.
Great review!, now that is my kind of formula, light weight, manual and a hatch, you cannot have a bad time in these sorts of cars!
Yesss good fun!
I wish they’re seen in the car community a little more but I rarely see them as a car enthusiast & modded swift. Very underrated.
Yeah man great cars!
Very limited aftermarket support for Suzuki cars so it's easier to go with another brand
I understand as I own one. It’s hard finding aftermarket parts tbh. But they are very expensive comparing to other jdm/euro cars.
@@xurix3953 I own a zc31 and aftermarket support in my country is bad so thinking of doing a kswap 😆
3:55 you are almost correct here my friend, I have the same AMT one and yes it upshifts when you hit redline, but if you have it in (M) MANUAL mode, not (D) DRIVE then it doesn't downshift when you fully press the gas at low rpm😉
Believe me I had it in manual mode and it still does it. Well, tbh I remember sometimes it did and sometimes didn't. It's a great gearbox that's just tuned badly
Flash tune with an intake yields a decent boost in performance
Very happy with mine, drove the auto, got the manual - happy with my choice
Where did you get remap done and info on intake system please.
@iansharp989 any dyno shop that works with alientech i believe can tune them, it's a Bosch ecu
There's a couple in Sydney that can, but I got mine tuned in Brisbane
I went with an MST intake, but I'd recommend one of the other ones. There's a few around. You want to buy the full kit, not just the pod.
Yeah the owner was telling me basically everything is Bosch on these cars haha. So I'm sure there's plenty of options for tuning. Either that or a remote flash tune. And yeah I reckon a tuned one of these would be absolutely perfect. They just need a touch more from factory
@KiwiCarLife stock they make about 87kw to the wheels.
With the above it made 114fwkw
The torque jumped to about 270nm
For a sub 1000kg car it's very formidable, especially with the short gearing.
Protip - shift it at 5k
Uses on average 7.5L per 100 with me driving it fairly aggressively
There's plenty of aftermarket parts available, particularly in Japan
@@RRR_Motorsports That's a decent whack more power from just a remap, did the RPM limit increase? Also, did you get the same tune to the auto before going to the manual, just hard to say manual is better the if auto was stock vs tuned manual?
Watched this and I’ve just bought one :D thanks for the review
Very nice!
I've got the same engine in my Vitara, including Allgrip. With that Allgrip you also get the drivemode selector. Especially on Sport it's really pulling. And the Allgrip gives you so much traction.
On the long distances it makes about 15km/L.
Absolutely love it.
How good!
took the previous model on a spin witha mate up to mount egmont and surrounding roads. Such cool cars and perfect for NZ roads! They are very popular in germany as well :)
Yeah man great fun! I still need to try that 2nd gen 1.6. With an extra gear and more power I'm sure it'll also be great
they give modern hatch NA miata vibes man
Proper nice little, light, efficient and fun to drive machines
Yeah man definitely!
Great channel, great to see ya still doin it. The Accord era where you basically did a real life gran turismo 4 career mode is still one of the best build/comparison/review series ever highly recommend anyone who enjoys tuning to go back and watch it from the start. Happy to see the desire to turn the safety rubbish off, just wondering how big you'd like the infotainment screen to be? Personally would'nt want it any bogger than that any more than double din always looks like a tacked on i pad
Nah it's not the screen size it's the operation. Looks like a 10yo OS compared with Honda or Toyota. It's slow and laggy and has a bad UI design. Nothing wrong with the screen size. And yeah the Accord era was a good one. You'll like the video that's coming next! Another Accord rebuild
I bought a 2023 Black Auto in June and so far am loving it, I do agree with the points about the interior and it certainly could use a better exhaust note.
I was lucky with mine where they switched out the infotainment system with a kenwood system and it honestly is much better.
Yeah exhaust is completely silent and the infotainment isn't great. If you changed both of them out, and got it to rev a bit higher it would be faultless
I just ordered mine a few days ago, expect to be delivered in approx 2 months... in pearl white of course...
Very nice! You'll love it
Greatest thing about Suzuki cars, they are not gas thirsty. Even their little engine cars too have grunt.
The 1.0L and 1.4t are good “grunt” wise but anything n/a from Suzuki is woefully underpowered. But yes very good on fuel for sure
YESSS love these little nuggets
Yessss
You recorded the automatic version of the Swift Sport going 0 to 100 in 6.2 seconds, which is as quick as a Golf GTI. I'm not sure it's fair to call that a warm hatch. According to the tuning firm CTC Performance in the UK, who specialise in modifying Suzuki Swifts, they actually come from the factory with about 115kw on average, which could explain the performance figures.
Mine(non hybrid) did 154,6hp 254nm stock on the dyno, 185hp 300nm after a tune. Very happy!
@@Giulietta1750tbi Impressive. Very nice. 😎
Yeah I think they are deceivingly fast because they're so light. It might in theory have 50kW less than say a Mk6 GTI, but it also weighs 400kg less.
@@KiwiCarLife Exactly. It's so hard to find new vehicles that aren't massively overweight. A small hatchback shouldn't weigh 1500kg. The first generation Audi S8 was only 1750kg. Now the S8 is over 2200kg.
I think the new Corvette ZR1 is fast but still doesn't make it a hyper car
i have one zc33s (2018), the best car for the price, greetings from Spain, nice video bro😎✌🏻
Very nice!
Have owned both the manual and auto.
They're both great little cars. Just depends if you want to prioritize fun or convenience.
Yeah definitely
Loving your channel mate! From Hokitika
Thanks!
We in Sri Lanka have the Jdm 1 litre swift boosterjet with possibly the same 6 speed auto as the sport. Many have modified them with the front and rear bumpers from the sport model. Its the last of the small cars with a good old fashioned torque converter auto and the great visibility provided by a Mini like upright and curved windscreen. These cars have personality that is so lacking in small Toyotas and hondas. Thank you for a very entertaining review👍👍👍
Very nice!
Nice review Mr. Carr
Thanks
I have a ‘22 plate Sport (mild hybrid) as my driving school car. I bought it for its reliability (and of course it’s element of fun). It’s a mixed bag of good and bad. But overall it’s been 100% reliable. The engine also feels quite muscular - great fun on a country road! Some of the build quality is good. No particular rattles. But those plastic coverings each side of the centre console, near your ankle are a joke! It’s not as cohesive a package as a proper hot hatch (steering, atmosphere, seating position, chassis etc)… but overall, i think I made the right choice in terms of robustness, reliability and fun. Great little car that should last longer than some competitors.
Yeah it's a nice middle ground where it's more fun than most of the other crumby hatchbacks like the Jazz, Yaris, Polo etc, but is cheaper to buy and more efficient than a Golf GTi or Renault Clio RS etc.
Very happy with my manual 2022 sport. Daily drive, gets about 17kmpl, and really fun to drive long distance and corners. Servicing is a lot cheaper than euros too.
Awesome! They're fantastic cars aye
I quite like them, except of the narrow base of the front seats. Good torque, nice and light and enough power to be fun. Economical too, even if you are being spirited in your driving. Interior is plasticky as you'd expect, and road noise isn't great but that comes with the type of car. When looking at them I tried to find issues with the engine/trans and in these days of internet, if you seek you shall find, but honestly I couldn't find anything negative about either the 1.4T or the 6AT. Seems at this stage to be a pretty solid little engine.
Yeah true the seats are quite narrow. But yeah so I've heard the drivetrain in these (and Suzuki's 1.0L turbo I3) is bulletproof
My mother just a 2024 one, its super nice, real carbon is nice to see, they have a plentiful amount of torque, the turbo is really nice, and the auto knows what it's its doing and doesn't feel like a slushbox. Well done Suzuki.
The carbon isn't real but I agree with the rest.
@@JaneDoe-ft7ln Oh it isn't? I just felt it and it felt like carbon sheets were put over the plastic.
@@Fluffy_g3 Its textured plastic, mate
@@Andreasy2 ah dang, -1 point for suzuki then
Yeah not real carbon sorry haha but they're still great cars!
You don't understand how much I wish these were available in the U.S.
They're pretty cool man! That said I wish we got things like the Acura TLX Type S and Integra Type S here so it goes both ways
@@KiwiCarLife Grass is always greener on the other side! Haha
We love our swift best car we have owned not a turbo or a manual but looks good gos good brilliant on gas and fun to drive we would love a manual sport 1 day though
Nice man!
West City Suzuki used to sell a Track edition (Jtune modified version) of the swift sport with pretty much most of hks catalog and other goodies, slapped with tune and full warranty. Think they were around 40kish
Wow that's awesome! Would be a hoot to drive
Really good. Hard to love the rear door handles though, up there like ears!
They’re weird aye!
Never knew these didn’t have IRS. Always assumed that the base spec was a torsion beam but the SS swapped it out to independent
Yeah I would have thought so too, but apparently not
A lot of FWD hatches are torsion beam now. The Ford Fiesta ST being a pretty notable one and it's known as one of the finest handling FWD ever. Torsion beam doesn't mean bad but generally to get good handling out of them ride quality suffers
good review ive got the previous model but its only the 1.2 engine but handles really well i would def consider the sport if i ever need to downsize from my civic type r
For sure man would recommend!
Also i hear stock you can get good power from a tune up
185hp 300nm on mine with just a k&n panel filter +bov+tune
@@Giulietta1750tbi thats awesome dude!
Yeah that's plenty! Would make this thing much more fun
Fantastic review to show how great these cars are. I'm so happy I get to daily my SSS that's also a manual. Kiwi, out of these 2 swifts. Do you find they both have a notchy shift feel? Like sometimes it can get a little rough if you shift too quickly. 2nd Gear seems to be the most noticable gear.
That's normal but can be improved by swapping out the rear engine mount for an aftermarket one.
Didn't notice the notchy shift particularly? Maybe I wasn't shifting that hard. For a FWD cable operated gearbox it was nice
Nice car, already turbo nowadays, back then it was a 1.6L NA engine, which was better for tuning honestly. Never experienced this model, but I tested the previous NA version, it had very good chassis, I was kinda impressed.
The 1.6 was better for tuning?? Aye? These 1.4's pick up heeeeaps with a flash tune
@@KiwiCarLife Actually, 1.6 on its own was more durable, and i bet even more reliable engine, but for higher output, it was difficult and pricey to tune. The 1.4 is much easier to tune for higher hp as any turbo engine.
Someone that recently worked at a Suzuki here, the they're no longer being bought into NZ new, gotta import or go 2nd hand now :(
Yeah coz they've launched the new model with no direct Sport replacement. They may bring out a new sport with mild hybridisation I heard
_Great little underrated car 😃 but I’m no fan of blow off valves and that one is terrible_ .. _cool review_
Definitely man! Haha was a bit silly aye
this is a badly modded one... BOV is over dumping to much pressure and they have that air filter sucking in hot air... It doesn't seem like it's been flash tuned as the boost still only goes 1/2 way.
This model looks so much better than the new swift
Yeah agree
I test drove a new one when they cane out. It was fun, but I was so disappointed by the engine. When you started revving it, it would hit the redline way too soon. What's the point of a hot hatch with a redline barely over 6k? It just felt like an engine suited for a crossover rather than a hot hatch... which makes sense because it's engine from the Vitara. I guess I'd be way happier with an old Swift Sport.
I ended up buying a 2 year old Golf GTI Performance which was a good chunk cheaper anyway!
Many people agrees with your point. I believe it's an emissions related thing. because with a ECU flash they can go up to 7k th-cam.com/video/1RQrgY_1V0Q/w-d-xo.html
The driving experience is probably more fun with the NA 1.6L, although you can't argue with the outright speed of the 1.4L turbo. It's as quick to 100 as a Golf GTI, with a smaller engine that uses less fuel. Keeping the weight under a ton makes a huge difference. Even just a remap will wake up the 1.4L considerably.
Yeah if you could get the 1.4t to rev like the 1.6 but make way more power you'd have a perfect car. I didn't notice it too much, but it would be nice if it went just a little more
@@KiwiCarLife That is doable, although it would probably require a larger turbo and maybe hotter cams.
When it comes to real world performance, it's not how fast you go, but how slow you don't.
The Swift Sport nails that requirement. In a reliable, mechanically durable product. The fuel economy is just a bonus.
Yeah man it’s definitely more fun to drive a slow car fast than a fast car slow
Nice, wish we got these in the States! It looks a little like a Mini from the back? I've never even seen a Skoda IRL. James May would probably like this Suzuki too. Personally have a Hyundai Veloster N performance package with -1.0 degree front camber, good luck keeping up mate lol. Cross shopped GTI - boring but good, CTR to many $. Super satisfied with my VN. Hope to see your next post as I know nothing about the New Zealand car scene, very interested though
Very nice! We don't get veloster N's here. The i30N is great though
While the short gearing would be fun for a blast, it becomes tiring here in Australia with its long flats. Recently put higher tyres on my 380, 2000 rpm = a true 120kph, bliss.😅
Haha that’s fair enough. Can’t go that fast here so it’s less of an issue
I wish they'd sell the blue color in my country. It's so beautiful!
It’s nice eh!
Hi Liam, if it’s possible, can you please make a video of Mercedes Benz A class? I think it might be very entertaining. It makes me enjoy the car a bit more, your videos are Phenomenal because it makes me value cars more. Keep up the good work.❤❤
Why, it's a shite Renault. 😂
Thanks, and yeah maybe if it was an A45 AMG haha
I had one. And like my ND MX5, the Achilles heel is the numb steering.
True I didn’t find it too bad, especially for a modern car but it could be better
it's fentestic!
Sure is maaaaTe
This reminds me of my brother's 18' Kia Rio except it's 600lbs heavier but still very nimble and can dive very fast into corners
Yeah all the small wee hatches are good fun
I'm so happy to own one.
Nice man!
Honestly seems pretty similar to the Honda CRZ Phase 2, which has similar specs and is also built for handling.
I guess, but this is wayyyy faster than
5:22 Seems like the car suffers from the infamous boost issues as the boost gauge normally goes higher up.
Maybe? I dunno
BOV install makes it slower, as it dumps boost into atmosphere. It also makes it run excessively rich because you vent metered air. Shouldve spent the money on a good remap...
Also, the Jazz is only 180KG lighter than the Civic. I'd rather they put it in a new CR-Z that is preferably a lot lighter than both the Civic and the Jazz...
I don't know enough about how BOV's work but I noticed no difference between the two?
You maybe thinking of the auto as that doesn't have the lag between gears unlike the manual, i believe this maybe the main reason it is faster to 62mph than the manual. Also i don't think he said the modified car had a remap so could have been better if that is the case.
@@KiwiCarLife The issue is that you blow off boost pressure, so lifting and going back on throttle has a bit more lag. But if the turbo is small you wont notice it as much. The bigger issue is that you vent air that already went past the MAF. So when you put your foot back on the throttle, it injects fuel based on that. You get a lot of rich conditions. So you get more intake + intake valves / EGR / catalytic convertor carbon buildup.
@@HashDogg06It doesn't have a remap. You can tell from the boost gauge as it's not fully going all the way to the top. Totally different car with a remap 😁
I currently have the 33s (auto/paddle) it is a nice to drive and awesome pickup ( the torque can be a pain in the ass at times, tyre spin), I loved my 32s but had less room than the 33s but feel like it handled better than the 33. I just pickup a 31s more fun to drive but it is manual and reminds me of the 32s I had.
Nice man! Gee you’ve had a few! What’s your favourite?
@@KiwiCarLife would you believe the 31 as it doesn't have all the modern features and kind if takes you back to a 80's car.
Closest thing i can drive is a 1.0 turbo auto (it is TC not cvt thanks god)
UK didnt sell AT SSS
Sad, the 1.0L turbo is still good though
Full credit to the engineers at Sukuki, how they managed to fit the redline from a diesel engine in that little 1.4 litre petrol engine is beyond me.
Luckily they put the torque of a diesel too
HAHAHA in all fairness I don’t know of many diesels revving to 6000rpm, but yeah it’s not particularly high for a small zingy engine
@@MrWilliam.Stewart What factory diesels rev to 6,000rpm? It's pretty common that turbocharged engines don't rev that high, because they don't need to. Their main advantage is producing lots of low and mid-range power and torque.
People want peak torque at 2000rpm. The lower redline is the trade-off. Your average suzuki swift customer probably doesn't visit the redline that often so this car will feel so much faster than the previous gens for that customer base
The all new Suzuki Swift Sport Diesel, so advanced it runs on petrol. Despite having the same redline as my old Triton ute, and making as much peak power as a tuned Kei car, I want one.
Had me at 930Kg. The fact its diesel engine runs on petrol is just a bonus.
Looking forward from the 90s, it would have been hard to imagine a sports tuned 1,372cc Suzuki engine that had a redline lower than a Camry.
Oh what a feeling, low rev cut.
Bigger turbo and tune ECU you can make it much more fun to drive.
I imagine!
I'd love to see a comparison between the Colt ralliart and the zc33s or even the zc32s (especially since I don't think you've reviewed the zc32s before)
That would be interesting, definitely more of a first gen competitor tho coz it’s from that era
@@KiwiCarLife True aye. Js wondering from a budget standpoint (as a 19 year old who wants to buy a sporty manual without car finance/afterpay interest) 😆 I think the last year of the Colt ralliart was also the first year of the zc32s as well
Great car. I also would have loved a bit more power, but it suffices. The entertainment system is below par to put it mildly, and I had mine replaced with a decent system. The wheels for the South African market look different and the set as seen in the video and found elsewhere in the world are not available here.
Yeah agree if you tuned it for more power and changed the infotainment, for the price it would be faultless! Interesting about the wheels! I thought they'd all have the same
review a corolla sportivo next 🙏
Already done the celica twice it’s basically the same car
I can’t wait for these to be legal to import into the states.
Gee you'll be waiting a while!
What modifications would you suggest for a 1.0 NA engine? Here we have only this model available.
None, buy a faster car haha
My SSS 2024 has a new gen 9 inch infotainment system, wireless carplay and wireless android and USB C connectivity. Great to drive, got the auto as I'm lazy and live in Auckland.
The Aisin gearbox is brilliant as its geared more towards a sports feel, when pushed it holds the gearing ready for you to punch it again, makes it very quick in the twisties.
Have been told that 33S will be fazed out at the end of 2025, only because of the governments emission, new one, no one knows yet, if so will be a hybrid with a large price increase.
Sounds like you've got a great car! Glad you're enjoying it
I agree Honda needs a manual fit 1.5t
Would be so good! I’d buy one!
Semoga masuk Indonesia, much love nice review!
Thanks!
Guess it's enough power to have fun on the right kind of road
Yeah especially in new zealand where most of our back roads are super windy
The underdog from Hamamatsu is sure to be a future classic.
I would like to think so!
Huh, these look great! I like the grey one in particular. And here I am looking at current model year Swift and wow they completely messed up the looks. Also there's no sport version in sight, not sure if that's just my country or a global thing. I almost thought the Swift would be a good contender for next car but now I'm just very disappointed.
Yeah the latest Swift has no sport option and is really ugly. These ones are nice though
Great car
Sure is!
This vs ZC32S? Bang for buck wise, as the ZC32S are about half the price, but similar kw - just definitely no where near the same torque
Yeah I’d say if you’re on a budget the 2nd gen is still a great option. But this is definitely better
@@KiwiCarLife Sweet as, thanks for the response
I prefer them in manual , im thinking if to get one because i cant ship my dream car home
Yeah man would recommend!
How's the leg room for the driver's side? Does it fit a tall dude? (6 feet tall and above)
I’m 6 foot and fit fine. Find one at a local dealer and go sit in it to see if it’ll work
Good little cars
Yessss
Love the Suzuki swift, great fun and surprisingly quick but I did find the seats to be too narrow; causing the side bolster to dig into your hip and butt. Did you share the same experience?
What is your height and weight?
Bro I'm pretty fat (100ish kg) and I've owned one of these for 2 years. I find the seats really comfortable and not too narrow at all.
Bro, im a slim dude and barely touch the side bolsters with my hips
Yeah I didn't have any issues? Then again I'm not exactly thicc
Yes seats suck, too narrow on the base and Im not a large person. Unfortunately you dont realise this till youve drive it for a couple hours. For me it wasnt the hip, its mid-leg that was the most annoying. Im 182cm and about 85kg. I was delivering the car for mum and she's considerably lighter than me and experiences the same issue. Otherwise I was pretty impressed by it. The turbo torque is excellent for accessible power. Heaps of fun to drive even in auto.
For 990kg that must feel real nice and nimble
Oh absolutely!
you telling me that this lil racing thingy has less power than my vw scirocco with 1.4?
From factory yes haha, but they can make quite a bit more with a tune
@KiwiCarLife it's just madness what can you do with cars nowadays!
I always wondered what kind of engine Suzuki could make for these if they made a sporty version and let their motorcycle department install a Hayabusa head or something.
Haha that would be insane! Not terribly cost effective tho...
The color is gray o silver Pearl?
Silver I think
@@KiwiCarLife Thanks u pal! 👍
brooooo where are the 0-60 (or 0-100) times? 😥
Timed the auto in 6.2s to 100 last time bro
@@KiwiCarLife wow you actually replied, nice thanks 💪🏻did you also time the manual? I want to end this debate of "manual vs auto launch" to find which is better for the swift
Как диски называеются на сером сузуки?
Yes
How much hp is the tune ;
Neither was tuned but I’ve heard it can push it up to around 180hp
@ I am thinking about racechip
Putting things in the boot is exactly what this cars for, if you dont care about that get a mazda mx5
Honestly an MX5 probably has more room haha
This or a Civic FG2 tyre R?
FG2? or FD2? Type R will always be another caliber above these
Why does the swift with this engine does not come to India
I am unsure
Strange, mine has 95KW at 129hp... European market, I guess. Torque is great, even in 6th gear.
Yeah must be tuned differently or something. Emissions perhaps
Its a hybrid version, selling since 2020 in EU to past the emissions. Still a good car, but didnt get much praise as the pure gasoline version before.
This cute little car looks so pissed it’s not even funny. Once it’s up to 200hp, it’s flawless for fun use.
Oh absolutely
I genuinely don't understand the 'warm hatch' concept.
Oh, I'm 55 years old btw, worked in the motor trade for years, and owned many fast cars (currently in an M2).
I don't understand why anyone who wants to drive quickly, would buy a halfway house warm hatch.
Even something like a Golf Gti is much quicker, much more fun, and still easily (if not more), practical as a daily.
I have driven a few of these Swift Sports, and I find them horrible. The engine is harsh, the gears are clunky, they are not actually very 'sporty', and they are no faster than a none performance hatch.
The interior quality is shocking, every knob and button feels like it's going to break off every time you touch them. I have had better quality plastic phone cases than any part of the interior of these.
I would not go anywhere near one, after several disappointing drives in them.
I guess it depends what you’re comparing it to, I agree compared with a golf gti this is a step back, but it also costs half as much.
I see it as a much better and more fun Jazz/ Yaris, than a worse gti
I totally disagree with the majority of what you are saying. I am 51 and own a Zc33s and previously owned a zc32s. They are both brilliant fun to drive little cars. Yes the interior may not be made of the best quality materials but they are not luxury cars. The build quality is excellent and Suzukis reliability is second to none. The sss is about the closest you get in terms of size and performance to the Astra GTEs, Escort XR3s, Golf GTIs etc of the 80s and 90s. The cars that gave hot hatches their name. In my opinion hot hatches of today have exceeded the term hot hatch, and should be classed as super or hyper hatches🤷
@@PaulDnb If they were around in the 80's and 90's, yes they would have been comparable to the hot hatches of that era, and it would be correct to call them a hot hatch.
But times move on, and just because hot hatches are now a lot faster, a lot better handling, and a lot more luxurious today, that does not mean they aren't still hot hatches. They are simply the hot hatches of this era.
You can't just keep inventing new names for something which is essentially the same thing as it was, albeit 30 years newer with 30 years of development making it 30 years worth of better.
By your opinion, we should call the new RS3 a super-duper-hyper-ultra-hatch ffs.
The fact you own one says everything, it's simply a case of 'I haven't owned anything better so I know no different'.
Of course you are going to sing the praises of the car you own, like a true fanboy, nobody is going to say 'I spent a lot of money on a car I really liked and it's crap' 🙂
@DjNikGnashers The fact that I own one means i know what I'm talking about lol. My German piece of crap is back with Porsche for the 3rd lot of warranty work in 2 years 🙈
After a turbo its still 103kw?
It's only a small engine and a small turbo. Still works well because the car is under 1000kg.
It's pretty understrung from factory. All torque and not much power, and only revs to 6000rpm. Apparently a tune really wakes these up.
is definitely something to think about post cost of petrol and tune analysis.
install after market turbo ie HKS, intercooler & catback exhaust can reach to 200HP, imagine power to weight ratio
Good cars, but probably only downside is that GDI engine is prone to carbon build up over the years. Also tons of annoying assists, but at least most of them can be turn off.
Yeah true the assists thankfully can be disabled, it's the nature of every modern car today. And yeah carbon buildup could be an issue...
Does it have an LSD?
They don't
Nah no LSD
I feel Suzuki leaves alot on the floor when it comes to this bad boys
Yeah definitely
Bov are much better tha Silly pops and bangs
I think some subtle burbles are nice, but yeah full on bangs is less than ideal
Why you comapre to Honda, Honda has bigest aftermarket of any other brand and if u need 800hp u can have it for les then 15K... So you cant really compare a Suzuky with an Honda
@@PutinIsKing because I think it would be great if Honda made something like this today. Apart from the civic type R Honda has zero fun small sporty cars