5 Experimental Grenade Launchers You've Never Heard of
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- 1. China Lake
2. Barret XM109
3. Mk. 47 Striker
4. XM25 & XM29
5. Mk. 18 Mod 0
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Right, can't have dead and confused bad guys, that'd be a war crime.
It also makes sense. Can't have things that make sense in this world
But only the first time right?
Not the first time. 😈
That line had me cracking up
Not the first time
My father was heavily involved in the Future Weapon project, including the G-11, the XM-8, and the OICW. Combat-skilled engineers with massive human factors credit get to play with some of the really cool shit.
JFTR, he felt most of the project results were complete crap.
Sniper Grenade Gat is for when you want say "Fuck You" to a very specific individual, and you want the message to be REALLY loud.
China Lake is still my favorite "Fuck You" device.
Best gun in FO:NV too
Wait I'm losing mind, it is really called OICW? I thought it was just named that in the HL² beta (standing for Overwatch Issue Combat Weapon) before it got ditched in favor of the AR2 OSIPR
@@theoverpreparerlamenters3r436 - yes, it was "Objective Individual Combat Weapon" - which is quite a mouthful for "POS"
Every last one of those China Lakes can be bought and I believe put on a form 4 getting the ammo is the only tricky part there's a website I keep tabs on that has one for 8.6k.
@Laird Cummings that's cool, I love the story of the G-11, Kraut Space Magic never-to-be
I heard that the guys that were issued XM-25s loved them so much that they didn't want to give them up, to the point of them having to be physically taken out of the hands of some grenadiers.
I mean imagine being given a 25mm programmable grenade launcher that you can program to fire through a window and explode in mid-air inside the building and after getting to use it and fall in love with it, it's ripped from your hands and they give you back your M203 or M320 and expect you to go along with it.
seems you heard wrong..
@@ripvanwinkle2002 Actually, it looks like he heard right. In the XM-25 follow up video he explains that the complaints were mostly exaggerated to cover up for the fact that the XM-25 projectiles are (according to the St. Petersburg Declaration) exploding bullets, and thus a warcrime to use. 270 gram grenades being less then the 400 gram minimum.
"I like to call that the Alec Baldwin test. Moving on." I damn near spit out my coffee! LMFAO!
The China Lake is one of those things that REALLY should make a comeback. Simple, rugged, effective. Should have one in every squad.
I don't know about that. You already have those lads lugging around a dozen or so service rifles , a pair of LMGs , pistols , ammo for the aforementioned guns , grenades , radio , body armour , and various other supplies. Adding a China Lake and enough 40mm to keep it feed would be a bit much.
Not to mention the M203 is adequate enough. A section shouldn't be in any situation where rapid 40mm fire is necessary as well. Something has gone horribly wrong if that's happened.
And usually is a sign of the Master Corporal letting themselves get separated from his platoon and or company.
China lake 2.0 needs at least two more rounds. Because MerKa. And of course slam fire
@@clothar23 personally, I’d rather have something like the China Lake over the M203. Never kept one on my rifle, was always in the way for me. I did see some guys that were real good with them though, could put one right were you asked.
@@JSCB-365 China Lake 2.0 was the EX-41 and fired a HV 40mm grenade. Alas it kicked the snot out of the shooter.
100% Squared. Mk 32 second best. Crane vs China Lake. China was lighter and more forgiving... California got something right.
Please do a full video on the China Lake! It would be gold. The line "the only sad part is it doesn't have a bayonet lug and you can't slam fire it." had me laughing so much.
The absolute fear of slam firing a 40mm projectile...
My wrists are already broken.
Yes YES *YEESSS!!!!* Been spamming the shit out of those viet cong in black ops back then. Also, Ian McCollum did a vid about the weapon & also its supposed modern iteration (which was sadly canceled)
Well to be technical, the 40mm it's firing are low pressure, so slam firing the thing won't hurt your wrists...
But still I get the joke there 😂
"It dosent have a bayonet lug and you cant slam fire it"
***yet***, get me some tools
@@jehoiakimelidoronila5450 it’s modern iteration is technically the M32 MGL.
For all who are lamenting the China Lake lacking slamfire, I can ease the pain abit and give you a chance to see that dream come true in a sense. In the game Cultic, you are able to use a China Lake and, as I'm wholly convinced it's creator saw this video, you can upgrade it to have slamfire. Yes, I didn't mistype, you can make your China Lake slamfire, enjoy.
Watson slam fire? Just hold the trigger and pump?
@@Akakiryuushin Yep.
@@Akakiryuushin Yes, slam fire aka slam the round in the chamber and immeditaly fire in the same action. Not all weapons are capable of it. But you hold the trigger down and never let go, and just pump the shotgun and rapid *bang* *bang* *bang*
Might not be able to slam fire the China Lake, but getting 4 grenades off from a pump action before the first one detonates will DEFINITELY make some Insurgent Salsa.
I can't honestly say you've ever put out a bad video. I thoroughly enjoy your videos
I would point you to the sales pitch for the underwear…
But he’s trying to find a way to make this work, so I don’t hold it against him.
@@mcinteer19 at least he kept it.... brief
@@danielhhewett I bow to you sir!
@@mcinteer19 I didn't say anything bad. I just said that I think all of his videos have been good and that I enjoy watching them. I even go back and put on playlists of his vids because they make me laugh
@@markscott4159 I didn’t say it was bad, and added that I understood his reasoning for such.
Every teacher everywhere should study your delivery. Wildly entertaining and informative. Keep doing them.
This. This ALL THE WAY.
If any of my teachers had taught this way I'd have been a better student. Still dumb as turnips but way more attentive. edit- for spelling. See aforementioned turnips.
if only the school districts didnt make us get videos approved....
he needs you to click on the videos a teacher doesnt need to ask you to come to class.
A little side note: while the dedicated self contained rifle grenade (the mortar looking type) became a thing in WW2, during the 18th century, the British had a device that was literally a cup that you stick on the end of a rifle and pop a regular hand grenade in the cup and launch it with a launching charge of powder. Grenade launching cartidges were used later for the same effect. There was also a version for firing Mills Bombs. In WW1, they also had a grenade with a rod on it to stick in the barrel and launch that way.
The Mills Bombs launcher was a Martini Henry buttstock and fire assembly with a big tube in front, saw it at the Royal Armories !
There were wheellock mortars, used in the 17th and 18th centuries, these grenades were detonated by a fuse.
At that point why not military slingshots lol
Point of fact: The HK XM-29 (or it's predecessor) was made far before the early 2000's. I know this because I was part of the testing for it in 1992. Termed the "Sabar" (No, I didn't misspell Saber). The component on top (the CPU) looked more like a cigarette carton in size. Initially, the programmable fire of the 20mm sounded awesome, but for a few things.
1) The field manual for the programming part looked like an old DOS manual. About and inch and a half thick. Meaning, you needed to be Bill Gates to be able to use this fuckery.
2) Fully loaded, it weighed in at a whopping 28lbs. That only included a 10 rnd mag for the 5.56 and FIVE 20mm smart 'missiles'. In quotes because that's what the designers called them.
3) The project I was part of was scrapped due to the weapon tending to explode without warning. The final incident was when it blew up on a table with three techs around. All survived, but were seriously messed up from a 20mm going off at close range and tossing rifle shrapnel everywhere.
Apparently, some dipshit pushed the design through for a second time. A bit more sleek this time, and apparently they worked out the IED aspect of the rifle, but still a shit show apparently.
Please do more of these. They’re perfect!!!
thabk you I will
@@the_fat_electrician should do one on the new Abrahams X
YES PLEASE DO MORE!! You can never have enough pump action to let the enemy know that shits about to get real. ( I think that makes sense) I wish they still made the China lake for that dial up yeetus deletus
I would even buy a replaca that shot 35mm flares
Telling the enemy that you won has never been so easy
@@the_fat_electrician 35mm flare to the face will mess up anyone's day.
@@the_fat_electrician sounds like a co-lab with Brandon Herrera needs to be in the works please
@@the_fat_electrician there is a 3d printed 37mm flare launcher, but that does require you to make it yourself, or just have Brandon do it
Love it , laughed my guts out, back in the day,watched a Digger fire a grenade, held his SLR ,butted against his bicep.
You left out the M-79 40mm grenade launcher (aka the blooper). I was a Marine platoon commander in Vietnam 1968-69. Every squad had one and usually carried a canvas bag with about 40 rounds. It broke open like a single barrel shotgun and fired one round at a time. I also had 1 Marine carry and M-14 instead of an M-16 for 3 reasons: it was more accurate when I needed it, it had more knock-down power when it was needed, and could be used as a rifle grenade launcher which was more deadly than the 40 mm M-79.
Man, that was a long time ago, but it's still pretty vivid in the mind.
So first off: I’d love to have these extra long videos of you just spouting cool trivia (kinda like your marine one) because I’d probably listen to you tell these stories for at least an hour.
Second: What’re you planning on doing next? USS Enterprise, the carrier that soloed Japan for several months? The Ohio Class Ballistic Missile subs? The SBD (Slow But Deadly) dive bomber, which sank the Japanese carriers at Midway? Seal 6? Or something special?
Or the Curtiss SB2C Helldiver. Sonnuva Bitch 2nd Class.
Any and all of this sounds amazing- 😅
Yes.
check out their podcast lol its pretty much that
Awesome work. This format of video is pretty good. Humor and education in one. This continues to be one of my favorite channels.
The Alec Baldwin test 😂😂😂😂😂
I've heard a very different thing about the smart grenade launcher. That is, that it was liked by users, but turns out with the caliber of grenades used and airburst mode, it violated some treaty which made it war-crimy to use.
Ya i did a recent video that covered all that
You do fantastic work. I watch more of your stuff on YT than TT. So I like the format of the full screen instead of saving it to your phone. Its great stuff you have!
I enjoy your breakdown on the different squads, weapons, and platforms... and now adding your favorite lists is a good way to add more content. Keep up the great work!
thank you !-
@@the_fat_electrician a video on the new Abrahams X
Oh please do more. This video is like 5 of your normal videos packed into one and it's glorious.
Gotta give a mention to the father of the father of the Mk 19, the XM174, where we took a few 1919s and made them into fricking grenade launchers. John Moses Browning would probably not approve.
Awesome video with some hilarious bits to it.. I'm usually not a war story or gun guy, I only watch Demo, Edwin, Tao and Kentucky for s&g and the strange satisfaction I get from the most random stuff being deleted by mass acceleration and the resulting transfer of energy. But in a collab between you and Matt I discovered the entertainment value in your commentary, which led me to checking out your channel and loving it. You've just got that high-quality dark and cynical military humour one can only find watching American GunTubers. 😁
I'm really liking the new format. I much prefer watching in widescreen as opposed to the old vertical format. As always amazing work Nick.
It's hilarious that you mentioned Starship Troopers when describing the OICW (20mm and 5.56mm combo gun) as when they decided to split the two weapons one of the first pieces of feedback the Pentagon gave to HK about what would become the XM8 was "We want it to look more Starship Troopers." Or so says Ian McCollum in his XM8 video.
Just wanted to point out two minor flaws with your explanation on rifle grenades: One, the rifle grenade was invented in World War 1 not 2 and the French Army (who absolutely loved rifle grenades and still might) were crazy enough to design a rifle grenade you could launch with a standard cartridge. Love the video and wish I'd tuned in to your channel earlier.
As soon as I saw the video title, I knew in my cold-steel little grunt heart that number one HAD TO BE the China Lake system or I would send you hate-mail. Love the vid format. Love pretty much everything you send our way. Keep them coming!
Definitely like the idea of ranking stuff. You gotta expand or risk running out of content material. I agree with your list by the way. Amazing how only 24 China Lake's were made, yet they show up in virtually everything, from Call of Duty games to Terminator 2. It would seem you are not alone in your favoritism of that particular piece of FaF technology.
The grenade launcher in T2 was just the M79. Though I think that's cause the China Lake was just what happens when a M79 and a Remington 870 get really drunk and have sloppy sex. The weird baby they make is carried to term but is put up for adoption.
@@CrysResan you are correct, my mistake. The M79 is a single shot to the China Lake's 3 + 1. I got them mixed up there 🤪
We need more top 5’s from you because your are objectively the funniest vet on this platform! Next you should do a top 5 of your favorite handguns or shotguns.
That sniper grenade launcher is like something out of borderlands or doom. Also I always assumed the China lake was more common because it's in like every modern setting fps game laying on the ground after you take out group of enemies
your a boss for even mentioning the rifle grenade, like a man who truly loves history... you pay credit where it is due.
I like the longer format but honestly I take what style you put out. I’m also the type of guy who likes hour long videos one TH-cam so take what I say with a HUGE grain of salt. Just love to see your spin on what every branch has to offer, definitely made me feel better about serving!! Keep up the phenomenally hilarious and informative content!!
More videos just like this brother. This channel is criminally underrated.
Somebody said this in another video and I’m realizing how true it is… you’re the 2022 version of “Mail Call”! Love the longer deep dives, keep it up!
@06:30 Yessir 👍👍 I do like it alot, and hope you do another video with antagonistic country's variants!
Love your stuff man! Been a fan for a long ass time, and your stuff gets better and better!
thank you
Best yet and LOVE the new shirt
Love this kind of format man. Have always liked your stuff so keep doing what makes you feel good and happy about your product
*When talking about the M1 Garand Grenade Launcher* "Bet you never heard of this have ya?"
*Me with vivid memories of Call of Duty: World At War with the constant cries of "Banzai" and panicked grenade launching*
"Nope, never heard of it tell me more."
Anything you report on history is wanted man. Funny and informative gets information remembered a lot easier.
Just showed a new co worker all your videos over the span of two days! Just finished this latest episode and he’s upset you don’t have one on aircraft carriers and wanted to request one. Thanks for all you do and keep up the good work! Freedom Fractions for ever! 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
Great video, but honestly I need more videos that are of a longer length. I love the war stories you tell, as well as your extra dialogue thrown in. Informative AND hilarious.
Definitely liked the vid. You could literally explain anything the way you do about anything and I would watch it. The way you tell the story is F**ing hilarious
Do more of these and while you're at it PLEASE look up Medal of Honor recipient Roy P. Bemavidez. The "6 hours of hell" story ALONE is worth it
I could watch more of these. Glad to see China Lake on there.
Bro, my wife, children and myself all love your videos. I'm an Army veteran, my wife is a Navy brat so we love your style of comedy.
There was an experimental rifle grenade that came out in the mid 80s that allowed live rounds to be used, including AP.
The crew served, belt fed, version of the XM25 firing a 25mm seemed to have some potential.
They had some in Europe going back to the 1960's. They had a tube running down the center of the grenade and a hinged lever at the nose. When the bullet passed it triggered the latch closing off the tube to catch the gas coming behind and launching the grenade. Not sure how well they worked when made by lowest bidder but they were issued.
Yes, this new format worked! In all reality I watch every video you produce, and I enjoy every single one. They are always enjoyable and sometimes I even learn new stuff but your take on the "Unhealth care system" always has me cracking up.
6:13 - funny thing about shotguns and the mentioned grenade launchers, is that with the invention of frag-12 rounds and 40 mm shotgun shells, shotguns can double as grenade launchers and grenade launchers can double as a shotgun; albeit in heavy situational uses with it being better to use the respective platforms as they are, but its still an interesting thing about firearms that's been true since their inception. The larger the guns bore, the higher possible round diversity there can be for it.
I really enjoy the format of this!
You have a unique way of "story telling" that the content subject isnt completely relevant. You could tell us about paint drying and make it entertaining. Great job!
My fave is the Milkor M32 line. I thought it was somewhat cool from T2 when Arnold used it. Seeing it employed in Afghanistan by a TAC-P TSgt solidified how gnarly it actually is. He had a bandoleer of 40mm HE rounds and went through them with a fervor I’ve only seen in Westerns.
T2 actually used a Hawk MM-1, basically a Manville Machine upsized to 40mm. The Manville Machine is in a weird number of films given there's barely any of them, and it should also have a video.
@@russetwolf13 thanks for that man!!! I never knew that.
You and Starship Troopers, like PB and chocolate, two of my favorite things. If this top 5 list makes you happy, do more. I just love your content. Keep the faith.
Definitely need a standalone video on the China lake pump grenade shotgun!
"Let us know whether you like it or not..." Okay, It's the same awesome storytelling that I've come to know and love so keep it up, you Badass Bard! ( I am not military, just a regular citizen.)
My nephew spent his 2nd 2 years of high school and about a year after working for a custom gun builder. One of their best customers was an ex Green barret and the stuff he ordered, wow. Now my nephew is in the military and is helping to design prototype weapons. Let's just say when they get to point where you can put them in a video, is going to be awesome!
Since you mentioned the rifle grenade maybe you can tell stories about military gear used for completely weird and wacky purposes, like the rifle grenade that made its way to Obi-Wan Kenobi's lightsaber hilt in A New Hope.
I can never unsee that now
How about the Friday the 13th Part 6 Jason Lives Jason costume? It's all surplus, LC-1 Pistol belt, 60s machette and scabbard and a WWII grease gun ammo pouch for the darts. I think even the clothes are surplus. Just not the big friggin bowie knife on his right hip.
It’s the information and your delivery of said information that we enjoy! You can sit down or stand up in front of whatever background you like! Thanks for the historical entertainment!
What's funny is that the China lake is clearly the inspiration for the loch-n-load weapon in Team Fortress 2. Same form-factor, similar look, holds three grenades, fastest grenade launcher in the game
The new format is good.
Your mention of the future weapons project stirred up some old memories. Look into the vehicle-mounted anti-sniper system. Pretty sure at least some things about it have to be declassified by now.
Love every video you've made. Essentially double length videos like this one while keeping the same humor and tone = badass.
“Sir, why are you attaching a bayonet to the china lake weapon system?”, “Cause fuck em, that’s why.”
Love the long form video, your research and content is spot on.
Did I miss the M203?
Your videos are great, please keep them coming.
Was looking for the 203 as well. Our Fire Team leaders had them in Desert Storm
Man i need to hear your version of the 8 of august 1976 (i think) when usa and south korea almost started a war over a tree. Hope u do one video on it
op Paul bunyan
@@the_fat_electrician yes! Thats the name of it! Would love to hear the story told by you in your ways just like with lucky flucky😊
Would love to see more videos like this, or just TLDR videos that could branch off into their own longer in depth videos would be cool.
I have to agree. The China lake is probably the most American Grenade launcher ever. We took our love of shotguns and paired that with 40mm’s of love.
"The Alek Baldwin test" EXACTLY!
The MK 47 is very much in use in Ranger Regiment. The issue is only a few people go to the class to learn, and then from there it becomes a "heard it from the guy who heard it from the guy". But its still an incredible system
Loved the video, man. Definitely interested in seeing more like it. I don't know why I have a hard-on for lists, but I do, and here we are.
Love the video the “China lake mistake” was amazing.
Should Def do some more lists like this. Even though it's your own personal preferences/favorites it still opened my eyes to what is out there in those categories
Love this video. I think I speak for a lot of your subs if I say that this is awesome. There are a good number of subjects you could use to make a Top 5 video with. Thanks for all the effort you put in your videos 🤘
Nic, absolutely love how you have ultrasound pics on your safe. My son inherits my freedom seed delivery devices that I lost in a boating accident upon my demise. Love your content and I am betting the Mrs. Is happy you're home from your unsub marathon (I'm still dying over that 3 and a half hour episode). Hey I have 1 of those shotguns in the safe at work. Keep up the good work and im still pushing for the MP review.
Viper7 out
I donated my to the inner city youths
Effing love the video. Keep’em coming. Now I have to buy a Barrett XM109 and magically find a China Lake and pray it doesn’t cost me an arm, leg, and first born child.
Love this format! It's been awesome watching the evolution of your content.
Yeah man I really like the platform breakdowns and when they were serviced. The more obscure the better, like I knew the china lake was a thing. I did not know it was developed for use by the seals and that it saw combat. Cool stuff like that is what gets me!
Love the video. keep them coming. My dad carried a M79 in Vietnam. Making it number 1 for me. With out it I would not be here.
You know when the China Lake cocked, every seal on the squad had a big ol smile on their face
Minor point of order, there are rifle grenades that use regular live rounds to propel them. They work on two different principles and are called "shoot through" and "bullet trap" types. They work exactly how you might expect. The shoot through type is of course weaker as the energy spent accelerating the bullet is effectively wasted but it still feels somewhat less insane than the bullet trap type.
Absolutely love your history lessons! And thank you for your service!👍🏽😀❤️🇺🇸
awesome video, please do more like this. actually just do more videos in general, your content is awesome
ok ima try!
@@the_fat_electrician one on the new Abrahams X whose be cool
I realize the XM25 didn't pan out for a few reasons, but I cant help but think that it could have potentially answered the issue of dealing with targets at long range that are harassing squads. I've read that quite often in the mountainous region of Afghanistan that they would get dudes taking pot shots at them from long distance. They could find the guy, but had a hard time returning fire, and often needed to wait on a support asset to free up (like a drone or helicopter) to end it. Grenades are great because close enough is a factor with them. If one of your platoon weapon teams was equipped with them then that wouldn't have been such a big problem.
Fun fact: the ATF explicitly says it is legal to make and use explosives on your own property with a no need for a permit or license of any kind. It is also not illegal to deploy those explosives from range. You can actually make and use a grenade launcher and clear your yard of unwanted anything.
Obviously there are limits to this, mostly with shipping the components, but the damage you can produce within those limits are pretty incredible. Take another look at that stump you want to remove and excavate responsibly.
I enjoy all your videos. Love how you can educate us and make us laugh. I’d love to go drinking with you some time even though I don’t drink anymore. Being a SeaBee vet I especially loved the train robbery story. The motto Can Do is spot on for anything our twisted minds came up with. Keep up the good work 👍
America really saw a sci-fi movie and said "what if it shot grenades"
well the sci-fi movie shoots pocket nukes IIRC so be happy they just wanted grenades. I'm sure someone wanted to try and stuff a Davey Crockett in there.
Definitely need more videos like this
Love this video. I would love to have a china lake to go with my pawpaw's trench sweeper
That looked to be an M1917, what you called the M1 Garand, at 0:36. That was actually a pretty sweet rifle and I almost got to add one to my collection this past year! Love the content man! Keep up the good work!
Came for this,looked like it had a bolt.
They needed a modification and attachment done to the M1 Garand so it could cycle the type of blanks used for the rifle grenades so they had the grenadiers in each squad equipped with a Springfield. I saw photos of equipment layouts for troops supposedly heading into D-Day still having Springfields but they may have got them in time to swap out prior to the actual landing day.
For the first one. Yes we did know it was a thing BF1 is a great game.
the China Lake is the most Metal Slug weapon ever I've ever seen.
Quartermaster: Shotgun or Grenade Launcher?
Grunt: Can I mix and match?
Quartermaster: Kinda...
Amazing! More navy seal special weaponry reviews/ whatever you do plz!!!! I have laughed to tears and made others as well. Keep it up
I was medically discharged from boot camp before the grenade training so sad.
honest it's a big disappointment it pretty anticlimactic
It's only 8 hours of throwing fused 'nade husks till the end where ya get 2 real ones that ya can't even watch go boom
Keep up with making videos, I don't care how long they are , you do a fantastic job of putting them together and also a fantastic job of presenting it
Love reviewing the weaponry we never knew existed but are cool af. However I can’t get enough of your long form military history stories. You’re just a god gifted master of those!
You’re killin me smalls!!! You’re hilarious!
You talked about atomic Annie and David Crockett. How about the other nuclear names like project Katie? A w23 nuclear round for the Iowa class battleships
Yeah, you're wrong because the first grenade launcher was the first grunt to try and throw a grenade like he was trying to stop a steal of second base. Kidding. Kinda. Good vid man.
I think you left one out! The AA-12 shotgun with the frag 12 grenades. Never fielded but definitely tested.
that ammo line is gold. "thats not ours, thats the bad guys".