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Why IMGs Don't Want to Work in the UK | 5 Common Misconceptions Debunked
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 6 ส.ค. 2024
- Many international medical graduates (IMGs) feel that opting for working in the UK as a doctor is a second rate choice, or not one good at all until one becomes desperate. We found a lot of the reasons why IMGs felt this way was due to the five misconceptions outlined in this video.
So join Dr. Ibreez as she clarifies the myths that keep IMGs from thinking about working in the NHS.
Have another misconception you'd like debunked? Comment your concern below!
📖 CHAPTERS:
00:00 Intro
02:08 Misconception #1
05:04 Misconception #2
07:15 Misconception #3
09:48 Misconception #4
12:56 Misconception #5
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wow! I just love how you explained these things, liked the video even before it ended.. it was like a friend was talking to me.. thank you Ibreez! you are amazing
Glad you liked it!!
Guys thank you very much for this vlog!!! It was so so helpful..at last I am a step closer to clicking that "Apply" button.
Glad it was helpful! Good luck!
The way you debunked the misconceptions, I love u even more now. Period!.
P.S: Hope to see you in the uk during traing 💜
Thanks! Good luck on your journey :)
This was a brilliant debunking session. Thank you Ibreez for never failing to up my spirits. ❤️
Glad you enjoyed it!
Assalam u Alaikum! Hope you're doing great.
I just wanna ask some questions to clear my mind.
1) Does your PMQ marks count while applying for PLAB/GMC registration/training in the UK?
2) Do supplementary attempts count in the above mentioned paths or become a hurdle in your career at any time in the UK?
3) Asking about myself, I had a gap of 9 months after my one year internship as I got my first job after that. Now I'm having an 18 months clinic experience in my home country. Do those 9 months count as a gap?
Your response is highly appreciated.
JazakALLAH in advance!
hi, thanks for the very nice and informative video
just a question regarding getting the permanent residency after 5 years of working.
if someone left the UK during the working period - let's say for a month to visit his home country - will this affect him negatively from getting the permanent residency?
Hello, thanks again for such a well-informed video.
I have one doubt tho, where I am studying there is 5yrs + 1yr internship, is this internship valid for gmc or should I do another internship after graduating?
You can see the criteria of an acceptable pattern here: roadto.uk/6MBs
New Ibreez or Ibrahim video? Time to get the popcorn and hit Like. Keep 'em coming!
Aw thanks!
Hi , Dr. Ibreez
i finished my mbbs from china this June and currently I'm in india preparing for my country's license examination to get internship here. Is there will be any problem in the future to get gmc registeration Or nhs job if I have gap of 7 - 9 months in between the completion of my mbbs and internship because I can't do internship in India without passing license examination
No. Please also see: th-cam.com/video/TvQZXVrmjYo/w-d-xo.html
Hi :) thank you for explaining all these, it is very helpful however I still have some doubts, I have read so many complaints coming from IMGs about working in the NHS, for example the salary is not enough and even taxi drivers earn more, or nurses picking on them, or they say health system is not really as good as everybody say, so I would like to know your opinion about this. Do you think it is worth it to go through all the process to get GMC registration?
1) We have a video discussing the salary and even going through the payslip.
2) here is the salary for taxi drivers: nationalcareers.service.gov.uk/job-profiles/taxi-driver
3) we have discussed dealing with bullying but there are more videos to be out soon on the topic
4) there is a video of Dr. Ibreez experiencing the system when she needed surgery
At the end of the day the decision is yours to make, but we like to think we have covered all the things most would want to know.
thx for the video Dr ! , i want to ask is clinical gap after gaining full gmc registration considered a negative , i mean during applying for post specially if it takes months with no response .. ?
Not at all.
Lovely video.....keeps motivation levels high!
Glad to hear that :)
As always it was an amazing session. Can you please tell me if I could keep my gmc registration without working in the UK for say 5 years? For me to get to work there later?
Yes but you'd need to either relinquish your license to practise, or keep it valid through yearly appraisals.
Hi and Salam alykum Dr ibraeeZ ! You and Dr Ibrahim may Allah reward you both for your efforts ... True when they say there is always light at end of tunnel ... jazakom Allah kheir once again ...
Walaikum assalaam. Thank you so much!
After doing MRCPCH 1 & 2 , targeting to enroll in MTI Program, can you provide guidance although I have applied through NHS as well as through RCPCH site to get fellow ship program and to complete clinical part of MRCPCH?
roadtouk.com/training-in-uk/training-overview/medical-training-initiative-mti-uk/
Thanks a lot for this enlightening video, please throw some light on how to apply for MTI program for anaesthesiologist as I am an anaesthetist in India..
Nice idea
Noted!
Everytime listening to get makes me wanna go to UK and practice immediately .
Thanks for your help
You're welcome!
I'm a Bangladeshi graduated srilankan doctor. I'm so glad i found your videos. And I'm planning to start my plab path soon after i complete my ebar. Hope to get in touch with you guys as i go through the path. Thanks alot guys. And well done. 😍😍
Good luck on your journey! See you here soon :)
If we have specialization in gynae from my home country than after mrcog,I will get position in gynae easily and I have to start from st3?
Please see: th-cam.com/video/TG0gJGlICD4/w-d-xo.html
Brilliant!!!...🔥🔥...can MRCP(uk part 1) only get you GMC certified to start work as a trainee in the UK?
No, you need to complete the whole MRCP- Part 1 and 2 and PACES to be able to use it for GMC registration.
Unfortunately not! All parts need to be completed. For more information, please see: th-cam.com/video/z4UghNcKl4U/w-d-xo.html
@JSR loool. It's actually quite easy to pronounce. It just has many syllables
Can you please make a video about working options after FY2 in case i don't start residency immediately ?
what other option will i have other than the locum option ?
Non training jobs.
Thank you ,you people are doing great. Can IMGs get residency in neurosurgery at UK?
Yes you can!
@@RoadToUK thank you .❣️
Thank you Ibreez for yet another wonderful video! It was straight to the point and I really enjoyed it
Glad to be of help!
Whether jobs are getting saturated in UK? Is it tough to get a job?
There is no saturation. Doctors are listed as a shortage occupancy job. Having said that, it doesn't mean you shouldn't apply appropriately and make a good application.
Check this video for tips: th-cam.com/video/o65AsG8sls8/w-d-xo.html
Thank you so much!
Can an IMG sit for the plab exams without Alevels or a pre medical qualification(University Foundation Program)?
Your videos aren't just informative, they are so motivating!!! Every time I feel overwhelmed by my planning and the journey.. I listen to you . I hope to meet you some day!
PLAB requirements don't mention either.
Are there any preparatory courses for people taking PLAB or do people just study on their own?
People typically study on their own. Check out our playlist on PLAB prep for tips.
Waiting for the video on necessary paperwork required to work as a Consultant in Internal Medicine or other specialities like GP
There is no such thing as an internal medicine consultant in the UK, but we have an interview with a GP discussing the process for that training!
Can a non UK IMG can get into UKFP
and does UK medical graduate or UK national gets more priority ?
Yes they can. No they do not. Please also see: th-cam.com/video/-LDAhj_XKVE/w-d-xo.html
Ibreez would you be able to make a video on how NHS handles maternity leave? Do you get paid leave?
Yes, you get paid maternity leave! We will have a video on it soon :)
I had 12 months off, 6 months full pay, 3 months half pay and 3 months no pay.
This was really helpful.
Glad to hear that!
Hey Dr. ibreez, I wanted to ask that how much significance research and case reports are for your portfolio when applying for jobs?? how many publications are required to get a residency position??
Which training are you looking to enter into?
@@RoadToUK these are my top priorities
1- ENT
2- General practice
3- Oncology
Can you make a video on how long each specialty is?
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I am a bangladeshi doctor.If i work in nhs, what health facilities will be given to me and my spouse by nhs. Please inform. TIA🇧🇩
You would both be covered by NHS services.
Your channel is such a blessing!
Thanks so much for saying so 😊
You have mastered YouTubing! The teaser clip was excellent.
Thanks!
Youre wrong about 3 and 4. And 1 is partially wrong @@RoadToUK
I am a 1st year MBBS student from India.. I will give my plan exam in 2026 ..
At that time will there be
Enough jobs or seats to avail for the residency in UK???
I also want to know the same
@@TanmoyDeb she isn't replying
@@satadrunandi22 she replied to a similar comment in this video by tamanna de
@@TanmoyDeb but she talked about the present situation ..ig
By 2026, there will no longer be a PLAB exam. It will be UKMLA. As for the job situation, unfortunately we cannot predict the future, but given the current, we don't expect the situation to change much.
Ibreez is awesome!!!
☺☺
Nicely debunked! Honestly, I have no idea where people are getting these misconceptions from.
Thanks!
And during those 5 years r we allowed to go for vacations??
Yes of course!
Which is best short term course to get into nhs
It depends on your level of experience.
Any course or training
@@cjmoonlightvlogs3633 Please see: th-cam.com/video/z4UghNcKl4U/w-d-xo.html
so you can't do any locum during the first 5 years right,,?
You can. You just can't solely locum until you get an indefinite leave to remain.
Does that mean you can't locum until you have PR??
You can't SOLELY locum until then. You need to have a permanent job and you can locum while doing this job.
What is GP equivalent to in India?
Not sure! Anyone who sees patients at the primary level and refer to specialists as needed perhaps?
MashaAllah how poeple will look at how beautiful islam is because of how kind you are ! Very prouudddd!❤️
🥰🥰
Are seats for IMG limited ? I mean is. It getting tougher for an IMG to settle in uk?
No. As we discussed in the video, there is no discrimination based on your being an IMG.
@@RoadToUK ngl you have bursted my tension by answering that no words left to thank you for your help and I definately will be needing personal guidance from you but the thing is I'm going to graduate after 5.5 years so I request you to keep supporting .thank you ,good luck
Salam. Pls are muslims working with the NHS allowed to pray on time?
Walaikum assalaam. You can use your breaks to do as you wish.
Ibreezzz😍🧡
😊😊
From🇧🇭Bahrain
:)
Now the worst part of plab is getting dates for exam. In addition, the visa issues related to COVID has made it worst.
Waiting for 2 years despite passing every exam in a single go. Now being frustrated I am giving up on working in UK and joining residency in my home nation😟
The pandemic has made the journey difficult for everyone, but don't give up! You can do it :)
Even after getting GMC license getting rejected for months which is frustrating. No answer and no solution. Is it common for all?
If you don't mind me asking, but rejected for what?
Have you checked out our videos and free resources on how to apply for jobs in the NHS?
And you debunked The Trump! Nice lol. Sometimes we forget how lucky we are here with health care, but when an outsider puts their prospective on it, it makes me me feel very proud of what we have. Thank you for your support of the NHS.
Thanks for having me :)
loved this video. however i would like to point out one more reason why medics prefer US over uk. its the final take home salary after the training is completed. Uk doctors even after completion of their training are paid almost half as US doctors after completion of their training. How true is that?
We are working on a video to discuss that further :) There's a lot of misinformation related to salary in the UK unfortunately.
The reason a US IMG ends up in the UK is because of a failure to secure a US residency due to a combination of the following factors 1) low scores/failed USMLE steps 2) Going to a doctor factory Caribbean Medical school where you buy the MD for extortionate fees 3) Poor quality LORs that should be highlighted also. In any salary comparison whether by Medscape an attending in the US in whatever specialty will outperform their equivalent in the UK easily e.g neurosurgery attending on average in the US 600k+ imagine that in the UK unthinkable nowhere close. That is why US is always first choice for IMGs
Okay :)
It’s not only about money everywhere else, it’s about the quality of life and the quality of the service provided, the US is a truly dreadful healthcare system that is all about profits instead of patients, it may be a way to get rich but that’s a poor motivation for a doctor.
Its the shame attached to working in the UK as people dont consider it very highly
Okay!
It’s much higher rated than the US, it’s number 18 in the WHO rankings, the US is number 37, you need to look outside the US, it’s one of the worst systems with the poorest working conditions and outcomes in the developed world.
@@paulm2467 Doctors and respected and paid well unlike the low paid slaves you have in the UK. Also they are regularly bashed in the media as well. So no working conditions are MUCH more better in the US
@@venlafaxinedomperidone8377 I see that you still think that money is the big thing, typical ignorance, quality of life and a good work/ life balance are what matters. Why do you think that no one wants to live in your country apart from escapees from South American hellholes?
@@paulm2467 lets see . Who wants to live in the UK? Poor and destitute from the world wanting some benefits? US attracts highly qualified professionals in its unis, silicon valley, and hospitals
This channel is so pro-UK and anti-US, almost to a fanatical degree.
The NHS is great but far from perfect. Can we have a video about things you don't like anout the NHS? Talk about the 1% pay rise or the monthly threats of a strike by NHS workers, etc.
Never called the NHS perfect- in fact have several videos stating the opposite. But when you have experienced the US system and now the UK system, it's natural for comparisons to arise.
Is there anything mentioned in this video that is false? No. So what's wrong with clearing misconceptions?
@@RoadToUK And from my understanding your experience in the US is not that bad. Can you Imagine me Dr. Ibreez.... I have been trying for 6 years to match in the US and no hope. I am almost in depression...The US took away all my beautiful years, all the money that my spouse is working so hard, I am not enjoying even my kids because of all these stress. Here in the Us is all about connections that's it. These people that are feeling offended for the US maybe haven't tried yet or are in that little percentage that have succeeded ( with connection of course) . Thank you so much for all these videos. God bless you both!
Probably because it’s bullshit, the junior doctors had a strike in 2016, the first strike in 40 years, the nurses last had a strike in 1999 and the 1% has been increased to 3% and is still in negotiations.
@@paulm2467 3% is sub-inflation, making it effectively a pay cut. Not to mention taxes increasing yearly.
@@vichuang1480 that's why it's still in negotiations.
You'd probably be more happy working in Iran or Saudi, you'd fit in better there.
Can't say I call either country home, so that would be unlikely!
@@RoadToUK I assumed, perhaps incorrectly, that you'd be happier in a more otherdox type of society as per your obvious religious bent.
'Otherdox'? Must be something new and fashionable that I'm unaware of! Sounds fancy :)
@@RoadToUK I beg your pardon it's predictive spelling, but I'm certain you get my meaning.
Hope you don't ever need her medical services,racist twat