@@manofkentcatapultsgunsando5069 i can maybe understand it with shot gun but not center fire ,rimfire or airguns fhe alternatives are not accurate . Dont think basc as seen the obvious thing that will happen JOB LOSSES in gun produces from gun shop and we will lose load of money on are guns as no one will buy them
Yep Lead is bad, but copper, Tin, and other alternatives are good! Lead oxidises easily and this oxide is the compound that lubricates the barrel. Tin oxidises too but at around 500C ( easily reached in an air gun particularly a piston operated one ) it takes on the Stannic Oxide form which is a hard abrasive used to polish glass. The steel used in air gun barrels is actually a very soft steel, and in no time your £2000+ air gun is rendered useless.
3:45: You hit the nail on the head. They don't give a toss about safety if they have to pay to make it safe. Infact you hit the nail on the head with the entire video. Spot on mate.
I'm just going to stock pile my lead pellet over the next 5 years or so. I'll keep a Tin of whatever we're supposed to use. All my old pellets get recycled into 10mm bbs for the cattys.
Please don't blame bojo, the people pulling the strings will still be pushing these legaslations long after Boris is pushed out. He is by far the lesser evil. As far as puppet leadership goes, he's one of the better choices.
@@manofkentcatapultsgunsando5069 nah, I got a 3d printer, I can print plastic pellets, in .177 .22 .50 .68 and my 6mm Bb's come in 1kg bags. Like I mentioned, I shoot for fun not for serious accuracy. Be more British my man, and find those lovely loop hole they leave in our legal system for us to legally exploit. I haven't read the legislation yet but it's likely you can just make your own lead pellets with a die, To get around the ban. Being a man with access to 'free'lead i'm surprised your not doing it already! As for pest control, not that I have an issue, but if I did, there are some viable options such as the Wembley HD range, the large polymer rounds are surprisingly accurate and deliver the maximum UK legal power for both pistol and rifle formats and since the rounds are quite huge this is delivered as Blunt force trauma, which is what you want to eliminate pests imo. The ammo is mostly reusable to.
@@KS-nm6li I make plenty of ammo mate , rifle , shotgun, slingshot, all lead , iwas making .22 ammo back in the early 80s but pellets are to small to waste time with I'd rather buy em 😀
The shooting community needs to come together and call for a ban on all lead piping ,contact your local MP / councils ,as you said ,if it is really about the environment ,this would put spanner in the works ,thanks excellent video
Lead piping isn't a problem NOW simply because they treat the water with phosphate which coats the inside of the pipe rendering it inert. Only soft water dissolves the pipes, so in some areas this was a real problem.
@@user23867 The danger is to humans and animals - lead harms the nervous system. The phosphate layer stops the lead dissolving in the water that humans are drinking. The pipe in the ground does no harm - usually it is under tarmac or concrete and not affecting drinking water. Eventually it will be removed and melted down for reuse. Lead shot and pellets that end up in animals might be eaten. Lead shot and pellets that end up in the ground are not easily reclaimed, or detected - they are there forever and may be concentrated in one area which might be used for food production years or decades later. They may eventually dissolve in the (soft) rainwater and poison drinking water supplies.
I tried a couple of lead free types of pellets last year in my FX Impact and HW100. They grouped poorly and certainly aren't good enough for the pest control I carry out.
get some bullet molds and make your own pellets. As you say, the lead is available in old water pipes and batteries etc - don't breathe the fumes from battery lead! melt it and skim off the impurities off outside before using the pure lead. take a example from the usa during prohibition which outlawed alcohol a whole clandestine cottage industry grew up around bootleg liquer - they will never learn - you can't ban a popular product from the people - you can only drive the price up and push it onto the black market.
I'm not from the UK, but i think going to other materials for projectiles is all about disarming the general public. What i've heard about the subject is, Older shotguns are not always pressure rated for steel shot. Copper shot over a fibre wad eats up shotgun barrels. Copper projectiles wear out rimfire and cf barrels. Airguns can't hit s barn door with lead free pellets. This isn't happening to the uk alone. Canada is cutting into firearm laws. The US will be very soon. Mainland Europe is going into en ammo crisis. Prices skyrocket due to covid shortages, now due to Ukraine. Lead will be banned as well because of the 2030 climate agreement.
I'm in agreement with you. It does seem to be disarmament. I'm not really a conspiracy nut, I like to keep myself on the side that makes sense. But I just can't see a lead ban on guns being all that beneficial to the environment.
Completely disarming the public is one of our central banker-owned governments main objectives. What's actually been taking place for the past two years, worldwide, is the implementation of 'United Nations Agenda 21' legislation. Simply put, it's communism 2.0 for the 21st century, with communist China's odious 'social credit score' being introduced in all countries. The people responsible for this are, as I mentioned, the globalist central bankers, the richest and most powerful people on Earth. Here's what's taking place right now in Britain: The 'Online Safety Bill' is currently in draft form and the government is looking for additional ways to “strengthen” it. These changes are expected this year. Our corrupt, central banker-owned government are categorising what they refer to as 'misinformation' online in the same criminal bracket as rape and terrorism. “If the road to hell is paved with good intentions, this Bill is a motorway.” - internet lawyer Graham Smith The UK government is also planning to re-work our human rights laws to put an increased emphasis on “personal responsibility” and our supposed “duties to the wider society”, as well as preventing people “abusing” their rights. In otherwords, if the government say we should take part in an experimental medical treatment, all for the 'greater good', we'll have no way of refusing their demands. It's to be known as the British Bill of Rights. I hope this information helps you.
@@wolfenstein6676 you sound like an absolute fool! Is what a coworker told me early '21 when i had first heard of great reset and talked some about it. Yes, you are rigth i said, the people wouldn't accept that many change and revolt if it is even true. That guy came back to me some weeks ago and said, what you talked about is really happening. Step by step and bit by bit... But it is.
@pino colada It's a nightmare, Pino, a nighmare that our people are walking straight into, but the majority of them still don't see it, or don't want to admit it. We have some very dangerous days ahead of us and all we can do now as families/individuals is to prepare for it by making ourselves as independent as we can from this corrupt system.
Since i am not a native english speaker i do not understand much of his accent. But since this is about lead ammunition ban and he is speaking about it with a angry face, i totally agree about everything he just said.
Agreed mate. I am still bitter about giving up my handguns even though I did nothing wrong. I wish everyone good luck in the future but I think the country is fucked. Good video.
I don't know about it being fucked, but we certainly are. For years the very same people who have now lined up to supply Ukraine with all manner of munitions, were lining up to meet and greet Putin. London is the playground of the ultra rich, Russians, Chinese and Arabs. Now we are told that all manner of food and commodities have gone up 50% in price over a two months period because Ukraine is no longer producing this and that. Our food comes from Ukrains, our electronics and other stuff from China, the oil and precious metals from Russia and Africa and so on. So what are we doing, or rather what our government has been doing? Smething doesn't add up.
The whole world is fucked mate, not just the country. The W.E.F have infiltrated all "super power" governments, now they want the people of those nations disarmed so they can't fight back. That's why all these mass shootings keep kicking off in US, false flag excuses to take peoples guns. Never give up whatever you have now, and if you can, buy more. While you can.
Yea if your pipes are undamaged you’re prob lucky, like asbestos, if it’s untouched and undamaged, jobs a good un, but say damaged pipe lagging, you’re fooked.
Most of em are very broken down internally, you can put what you like in the water at the pump station and UV plants , it wont stop the pipe disintegrating
The phosphate mops up dissolved or exposed lead ions. So it doesn't care about the state of the pipe. The resulting lead phosphate is insoluble so you get a coating on the inside of the pipe of white/brownish crud, or it gets pushed along to somewhere where it can sink into a quiet spot. The aim is noboby drinks the free lead. I think the science on all this is pretty strong which doesn't mean it can never change, but it's really quite unlikely. A better option for contesting any restrictions might be to look to options for collecting and recycling the lead where this is do-able like indoors. FWIW - haven't tried lead-free pellets and I don't recycle my plinking........but maybe I should.
It's not the ground that's so much the issue, it's the water and plants. It can do serious damage to humans (especially children) if ingested or inhaled. I do understand the argument for banning it, I just don't think it's going to do much.
We have been using lead shot for 200 years. Look at the amount fired on the great game shoots in the early 1900's. Then ask yourself where is all the dead and dying wildlife which lives on these estates? A proper survey needs to be conducted into what, if any, effect lead pellets are having, because I haven't seen such information yet. For example, why not examine the crop / stomach contents of pheasants and partridges to ascertain exactly how many lead pellets they have consumed? Or do blood tests to establish lead levels? It's just BS and the BASC have rolled over. I for one will never rejoin the pointless organisation. Fieldsports magazine recently published an article on the state of UK rivers. According the the HSE, in 2020, only 14% were deemed 'good' for wildlife and when tested for fertilizer content, it went to a 100% fail. In addition they report 400,000 instances of raw sewage being discharged into rivers by Water Companies. Further, Domestic cats are estimated to kill up to 270 MILLION birds and mammals in the UK every year. Surely, these issues have a far greater detriment to our wildlife than lead shot, but are almost completely ignored.
I hope these points will be raised when the ban is discussed in parliament, but I doubt facts and figures will defeat emotional and political points scoring. Great Britain should be called Great Ban It.
Galena is in the environment. Using it for ammo only recycles it. Galena typically is found in hydrothermal veins in association with sphalerite, marcasite, chalcopyrite, cerussite, anglesite, dolomite, calcite, quartz, barite, and fluorite. It is also found in association with sphalerite in low-temperature lead-zinc deposits within limestone beds. Minor amounts are found in contact metamorphic zones, in pegmatites, and disseminated in sedimentary rock.
Agree with everything you say. They are going after lead ammo as a means to get everyone to pack-in shooting. What will be the point in having a £1K plus rifle that gives a 3" group at 30 yds, with £30 a tin, lead free pellets ?
Totally with you mate it makes no sense,apart from replacing all the pipes would cost them billions so it will never happen. I think more people need to be made aware of this as if people are more concerned about the lead pipes they may forget about pellets 👍🏼👍🏼
Lead piping isn't a problem NOW simply because they treat the water with phosphate which coats the inside of the pipe rendering it inert. Only soft water dissolves the pipes, so in some areas this was a real problem.
@@lindosland Yea I've heard this argument a few times , but as every water company in the UK has different ideas on water treatment it's a bit hit and miss , it all comes down to the source of the water and whoever is treating it , sometimes the inside bore of the pipes I work on are completely broken down and flakey , and the bottom line is there lead and people are drinking out em 👍
@@manofkentcatapultsgunsando5069 I agree that if the inside is flakey, it may be dissolving, or maybe it did in the past. The way to settle the matter is to test the level of water at the tap. I contacted Trent Water about this many years ago, having drunk water from a lead pipe throughout childhood. They put me onto a scientist who was really interested and genuine and went into detail and measurements. He assured me that phosphate treatment had ended the problem and I didn't have to rush to replace the pipe. The harm done by lead is subtle, and mostly to the brain, and the effects hard to diagnose, so I don't take it lightly. They took the lead out of paint (kids in poor areas were eating flaking old paint), then petrol (measurable IQ loss in children). The problem is that the world is so full of busy people, and cars, and everything now that all pollution is becoming a problem. When I was born there were only a third as many people on the planet, very few cars, and it's not so very long since there were only a million people in the UK (now 70 million). I guess back in the days of muskets we could afford to scatter lead about. Catching the pellets from practice targets seems a good idea and I will do that. I shoot rabbits, so I'm with you when it comes to needing effective pellets. Of course, depleted uranium pellets would probably be super good - fancy scattering those around as the military did in Iraq?!
As a kid walking around with air rifles we used to chew a pellet(for what ever stupid reason) my mates all did too.... were still here...this lead ban is utter rubbish...
Thanks for your comments Andy , air rifles have always been the gateway to shooting sports, this is the Government's way of nipping shooting in the bud , but you know as well as me responsible and legal gun ownership is not the problem.
I've used lead pellets for over 60 years , and won't be changing to the new lead free pellets any time soon , if it means putting up a pellet catcher at my local club ,then so be it ( it's what the 10 metre pistol shooters do now ,to catch and recycle there lead ) also what about the lead water pipes that most people in the UK are still getting there water supply from ???,and the lead flashings& valleys on most houses that discharge into to water ways and then end up in the drinking water supplies.I have tried the new lead free Green pellets in many of my guns , they are to light for accuracy,the groupings are terrible, shooting the same gun with lead pellets the groupings are great ( so a pellet catcher at your shooting preferred distance would be great !!! ) I would suspect that many club shooters could set up a variety of catchers at different distances and all Thier lead could be recycled,Leave us to our sport !!! Don't try and ban it !!! And don't try to rip us off by charging extortionate prices for some that doesn't harm the environment as much a steel or other materials ,as claimed by those in power !!! I've been drinking water for almost 70 years , supplied through lead piping ,I think if there was any problems,THE GOVERNMENT WOULD HAVE BEEN REPLACING IT WELL BEFORE NOW .Write to your local MP and air your views on this subject,before it's made law !!!
Thanks Steve for the comments, I've got plenty more to say about the matter and so called Gun control, I just have to be careful in telling the truth as it can get you into trouble these days ,,,I never thought I'd see the day when telling the truth would actually become an offence 👍
Good points well made. Country going to the dogs the price of basics through the roof, people frightened to turn the lights on or the heating up because of the cost. Then you get someone with nowt better to do than take a swipe at peoples pastimes .Maybe they need to take a long hard look in the mirror and ask themselves if they are putting their energies into the real problems people face day to day or a cheap shot at a minority. I took the lead pipe from the toby to the house out of here when we moved in i didnt like the thought of the kids drinking from lead there must be thousands of houses just round here that have no idea they are still on lead and the government are worried about a few airgun pellets............Crazy
The whole thing is a load of cobblers mate , there gone at full bore as well , and where is BASC ............nowhere as usual , completely useless, The UK is shagged mate
I agree that lead pellets are better, and am not sure what the solution is (raise permitted energy to compensate?) but the simple fact is that lead IS harmful to health. The harm is mostly to the nervous system, especially in children, hence the ban on lead in paint because they were eating the flakes of old paint on old buildings. The water pipes WERE dangerous to health, as I was growing up, but they aren't any more for a very good reason. Soft water dissolves the lead, while some hard water doesn't, and in particular phosphate forms an inert lead phosphate coating inside the pipe. My water authority told me that they add phosphate to soft water now to render the pipes safe. Just because you lived to a good age doesn't mean your brain wasn't compromised.
Every water company has it's own ideas on treatment,,,,,it all comes down to the water source and whoever is treating it ,,,,,,a lot of the pipes I work on are completely broken down and flakey on the inside , a lot of the inside condition of the pipe comes down to the draw on the supply
I’m a builder and a shooter. If lead is that perilous to life and contaminants the water in the land, I agree completely with you. There are miles of lead pipes in the ground. Why ain’t we ripping off the lead roofing from historic buildings. Why are we using code 3,4 and 5 lead in building works to meet building regulations. YES just another wrap to stop shooting. If lead is that lethal then why on battle fields wild life and grass land thrives. Why are we still producing lead?? Why ain’t the shooting body’s standing up instead of rolling over. Alternative agenda I think. Great video
Cheers mate , I've had plenty more to say , but my last video got took down when I happened to mention the cause of Gun crime in the UK. No one wants to sort out the real issues In the name of ,,,,,,,,,, well you know anyway dont ya 👍👍🍺
Totally agree with you, when the last lead pipe is removed from uk properties then the powers that be can discuss ammunition. We have a choice whether to eat food shot with lead, we don't have a choice when it comes to drinking water from our own taps.
Excellent, to the point video. The whole thing is about removing guns from private ownership. It’s been shown that in rimfires and air rifles that lead substitutes don’t work. Vermin control, target shooting, vintage air rifles and rimfires, are all going to be crushed if this ridiculous ban goes ahead. Where are the facts about lead issues caused by shooting?
Thank you, There is no evidence mate , it's the ol environment card that's played to meet an agenda, I've got plenty more to say on the matter I just have to be careful what I say , I've already had 1 video removed on the matter when they first started on shotgun cartridges , it's a joke mate👍
You didn't mention the poisoning of wildfowl by ingesting lead shot from shallow dabbling grounds. This voluntary move away from lead in wildfowling may save a few birds but in reality the lead is already out there. The Romans used it and its being picked up all over fields by people out metal detecting. However there, it ends. Ducks and dabbling grounds....gizzard grinding up fallen shot...that's as far as it goes. I use shotgun, rimfire and airgun. The shotgun made in 1886 and was my father's shoots acceptably with the new steel shot....yes, more expensive but not prohibitively so. If I were shooting woodies by the 100's for crop protection then I'd be concerned about cost then. Pest control with airgun and rimfire will never be the same. Grey squirrels, who kill more songbird chick's on the nest than domestic cats, are a major threat that need controlling. Using traps works but I can't physically Check the traps every day as required. Lightweight alternative ammo just won't have the power to do the job at range and many animals will crawl off to die a slow painful death. Concerns over birds eating the carrrion are really so rare. I clear up everything I shoot except foxes which have no bird likely to eat the carcass here in the UK. Air rifle target shooting has absolutely no bearing on any of this and the discipline will be lost to the likes of back yard plinkers. I've shot all my life, and eaten much that was shot with lead. We pass it through with minimal toxic effect. We don't have a gizzard! This is just another taxable benefit and way of getting rid of 'troublesome' guns for those in power. 2 nights ago I lost my 7 hens to the fox. I will kill it with lead. But that piece of lead weighs less than 0.1oz. That will rot away with the fox and be left in the ground, probably forever. I find lead bullets that were fired during the war or before with little perceptible oxidation, no more than lead on the roof, yet you could be talking 100's of kilos of lead on a roof. What about tea bags? They get thrown on my compost heap to rot away into new soil but not so..... Manufacturers don't use glue to seal them, the paper bag is laced with thermo plastic so they can heat seal them shut. My garden is therefore contaminated by micro plastic which may well be taken up by vegetables I grow. I then eat the veg and some of that plastic finds its way into my body tissues. There are many things wrong in this world but politicians take a knee jerk to the easily adapted items that may generate more cash, or help ban use of guns. Let's see how much of a lead ban by America. They'll just laugh and tell the authorities to feck off! Stop their shooting? No chance.
@@manofkentcatapultsgunsando5069 Lead in solder was only banned in 1999 so there are many houses with soldered copper joints which contain lead - true its far less but still present and going straight into the home for human consumption. It wasn't;t so long ago that people used to run their tapes for a few tens of seconds to flush the lead through, but if course we don't do that because it 'wastes' water. Actually it wastes a lot less water than the water companies do but that's a different story. Just read that there are 63,000 tonnes of tyre rubber micro structure particles spread over the country, rivers, lakes, etc. every year. Thats from SUEZ the waste company's calculations. These micro particles are far worse for us and the environment, they get into everything, yet no one says anything about them - could it be because the self-righteous 'greens' all get around in rubber tyred vehicles. And they are only after banning shooting because they don't like it. Vermin controllers provide a service that few understand, yet they provide benefit, even to vegans, with that service, generally unpaid. Without vermin control the loss of precious food to species that will expand their numbers as the food supply is increased and continue to do so whether its food for vegans or cattle, sheep, pigs for normal people. I'm not saying eliminate all 'vermin' species just control their numbers and for that to be done humanely lead is required. Rant over
all guns and property is private ownership. the legislation only apply to a person not a MAN. go find out and research what a person means in law. they wont be taking anything from me
I have always said it, every thing you said your spot on mate, dig up the hole country and change all the lead pipe we drink out of but they won’t be doing that will they,
Well said, couldn’t agree with you more. It’s a load of nonsense. I’ll be keeping an eye on what transpires and kicking off against the ban as soon as they try and make it law. How are the going to police it? Total rubbish, ain’t they got anything better to do?
Geez! How many lead pellets do they think are been shot around the place? They should probably take lead out of aviation fuel first, probably far more goes straight into the air from small private airplanes as opposed to airgunners that gets trampled back into the ground where it came from. You'll be losing your lead sinkers for in the sea next!
Well said mate...... I went to Nottingham Tech and specialised in plumbing. Mother bought me Townsend -Plumbing. The data says the 1 ft x 7 pipe I have weights 7 lb per yard . The weight of this 1 ft of lead standard in Britain weighs 2 lb - 5.5 oz...... As anyone can see this pipe is actually heavier now than when it was manufactured 90 years ago........ It seems in good condition and shows no signs of corrosion inside or out. So much for Severn Trent donley's years ago advising us that lead in Nottingham was / is Plumbosolvent.
@@manofkentcatapultsgunsando5069 For your own protection, you need full ballistic body armour & a Ned Kelly helmet to shoot rats at 15yds when using lead free pellets 😀
They banned the use of lead in artists' oil paints such as Flake White and Cremnitz White which is rather annoying as these paints dry well and form a good impasto. Likewise, Cadmium is gradually being replaced in yellow and red paints, originally on the basis that it was harmful to the environment as it was being washed down sinks during the cleaning of brushes. It seems to me that the nanny state has gone too far and has tried to take away individuals' rights to make informed choices.
GREAT video!! I got my airgun bottle filled up at the dive shop recently; and while I waited I had a mooch about. Guess what I saw?? Divers weights.... LEAD weights. Wonder what will happen there!
Plenty mate , I've been watching this unfold since 1987 , I think theres bigger issues than a bit of lead , Raw sewage being pumped into the Rivers and the sea on a daily basis for one It's just a crutch 👍👍
As they go on about peoples mental health and anxiety [ which i suffer from ] i cant think of any thing more relaxing even when i miss and talking to like minded people for a few hours you cant beat it and now this comes along .
Absolutely mate, but we cant let the bastards grind us down , I've been pretty vocal on the subject to the point of having videos removed from here beleive it or not , all the best mate dont forget to subscribe for more future moans 💥👍🍻
You can recycle a lead battery almost to 100% but you can't do this with lithium battery's. I have stopped watching TV for many many years, it's only brainwashing bullshit in the square box.
Hi, new subscriber here! The only way I see a way out is to buy in bulk either now or build up supplies over time. Get together with other shooters to make very large orders. You would then be in a position to negotiate some damn good deals. Stuff using a non-lead product on a rifled barrel. I keep chickens, therefore I have my own rat supply. I need accuracy up to 45 yards, at night. (HW100/Thermion xp38)
I hope you keep posting issues like this on TH-cam (I’m too ugly to show my face on there lol) also if you, or you know of any petition that we can join regarding this and other ‘anti shooting BS please let me know and I will be more than happy to put myself/name to it!
my local gun shop owner told me of two midland police gun control officers came to his shop, and examined a umarex co2 john wayne colt ssa colt 45, and said ?? THIS COULD BE EASILY CONVERTED TO THE REAL THING ????? in other words they dont know the difference between gun metal, and dressed steel ??????
Wow, I was heading off to buy a Gamo GX40 and a compressor this Saturday, don't think I'll bother now, also out of curiosity I checked under my sink and sure enough there's a lead water pipe coming through the floor..
You can pick lumps of lead up from the ground on hill tops 15 miles from where I live, first time I did it was in Geography class 53 year's ago, rain falls on these hills and flows into the reservoir in the valley, but oh no PELLETS...
I find tonnes of old lead pipe in Victorian era tips, usually in the form of pipes, but sometimes just mangled up lumps. I've also found asbestos sheets, but have left them WELL alone. You make an excellent point about electric cars too, how long will it be before people start dumping them in reservoirs? 👍
I feel like it’s about disarming the general public of ANY type of gun. They don’t want anyone to posses the ability to shoot a gun of any kind, except for the army who they control. It makes you wonder what’s coming in the coming years.
Fantastic video my pellets are £26 for 200. And buy lead pellets up at boot fairs if can find them I got six tins for £15. Like I said fantastic video. And you don't need a debate your right there wrong.
Hello there , Crikey I Remember the old Folkstone and Dover water company back in the 80s run out of the cheriton yard , yea plenty of lead down there mate 👍👍
Cumbria lead pipes till 06 Shocked about the Scotland RFC 12flbs law, wtf Used air guns from age 10 to 30 never hurt anyone and as if i remember right, it was 500 .22 in 500 rabbits lol Good how memory changes lol
This Lead shot is bad for people and the environment all started in a big way in the 1960s thanks to some person flying a keyite in the shooting press claiming people can develop lead poisoning from eating lead shot in game birds. Next thing the greens jumped on the band waggon with lead in the environment. they went very quiet when it was pointed out that the Peak District and Derbyshire have Lead naturally on and in the surface soil so people should not go walking for pleasure because of the Lead toxicity that did not suit the cause at all but now they are back banging the Lead drum again. This Lead ammunition for shot guns can not be policed, how on earth are they going to check on a private land or estate owner with regards to the type of shot or type of bullet they are using possibly catching them in mid flight at 2000 feet a second. Realistically I am glad my clay shooting days are coming to an end and my sons will have to cope with all this bull shit. Keep your eye on Parliament any excuse to remove guns from the public has been their aim since the Russian revolution rattled their cages.
@@manofkentcatapultsgunsando5069 I found a research report on this, and rainwater collected in tanks was found to contain too much lead for drinking. I guess that dispersed in the ground it does not get into humans easily.
Just wow!!! 😡! I think you are dead on with your logic is with the situation brother. I never thought I’d see the day that lead would become a possible smuggling item!
They wont take our fridges because of CFCs It's s a newer refrigerant now, but they still say a special firm needs to empty them. Get a airduster, clean your pc Guess what they use, air? Noooo its a refrigerant Same with hair spray
They just don't want the population as a whole to know how to use guns. I have no idea what these guys have planned for our future, but having come from a country whose people are now suffering under a brutal, corrupt and fascist totaliterian regime, I am of the firm opinion that democracy which in essence is nothing but people determining their own future, would be in grave danger if the population were ultimately defenceless. Rights and Freedoms that we now enjoy ( clinging on to, to be precise ), were never given, but won by force from the very same people whose descendants are still at the helm in this country, in one shape or another. If in doubt, just look up the Peterloo Massacre of 1819 in Manchester. The British Cavalry running peaceful men and women down while protesting against inhumane working and living conditions. I often wonder why the BBC is so concerned with the gun laws of the USA?
@@manofkentcatapultsgunsando5069 It is sad, the shame of it is that it is done under the evil banner of ' Globalism', but that we or rather our politicians, are at the vanguard of this evil movement. A select few are reaping the rewards, while the rest of the population are staggnating or are in retrograde motion. We now see a government in the UK, happily presiding over the highest ' official ' inflation figure in over 40 years, with the price of Gas and Petrol having gone up by around 55% withing a couple of months. While the majority of population are suffering and have to think about balancing eating food or going hungry, our chancellor is quite happy collecting nearly 50% of the price of Gas in tax and the VAT. Where is it all going? I guess banning Lead pellets takes priority over making sure that people have enought to eat with. Wait till the cold months when the shit will really hit the fan, and what have they come up with, The Right To Buy. The resurrection of a disasterous and failed 1980s policy of Thatcher that caused the social housing crisis that we now witness. Almost 60% of those council houses that were sold for next to nothing to the tenants have ended up in the hands of the landlords.
btw, they complain about the environment????? So why are they, our governments in our western democratic Free countries, sending major weapons towards eastern europe? And what about the shit that is still in the ground from WW2 and 1? And what about the shit that is used in military practise? These dips in government should all be taken care of. I do not understand why people had no problem hanging Mussolini upside down, and yet people seem to accept EVERYTHING from the dictators that are now in power in those socalled Free Democratic Western Countries. (who can believe such nonsense that we are free........ is delusional).
a british historian, perhaps you know him, said: If soldiers who went up the beaches in Normandy to fight for freedom and democracy could see Great Britain as it is today, they would not have gone up those beaches. We might just as well call our western democratic society by its real name: Soviet Union. There is almost no difference anymore between over here and over there. So who are the Ukranians fighting? Basically their own people. Because a clown is continuesly provoking his neighbour. And now the US is giving away major weapons. It is only a matter of time before the real "Great Reset" That stuff is gonna escalate pretty soon. HOPEfully people have learned something from the past. But this is impossible, because the Victors write history. And nobody has ever taken the time to ask if these victors have told us the truth. So, did they tell us the truth about Hitler and his friends? Or is it one big gigantic lie?
@@manofkentcatapultsgunsando5069 i came to your video after watching AAR news channel. (i assume you know the channel as well) Seriously ridiculous what people accept these days. There is a reason Muricano's are allowed to carry a gun. The second article in the constitution is clear enough for everyone to read. But i wonder if people will ever use it, this article. The Muricano's are a bit late on that, and keep accepting tyranny over a real Free and Democratic country. People accepted the event in 1963 eventhough a blind person is able to see the major problems. Like Lemmings we are heading for a cliff, and like lemmings we will step over the edge. And perhaps on the way down we might start thinking. But, the only thought that will pop up is: is this gonna hurt? The British Historian (who was discredited, beaten up, jailed, etc etc, for writing books about what he found in the archives) was right. And is right. These clowns call the Russian leader a dictator. And they try to sell the story that it was Russia who is the agressor. I wonder why we should believe such nonsense.... Because we did not believe such nonsense when Germany told us 80 years ago. Infact, we made sure Germany would for ever keep their mouth shut. And yet now its Ukraine. And the entire western democratic society is against the socalled Agressor, Russia. People have short memory. Only have to look back as far as 2014 to realize who the real agressors are. But who cares. They hung Mussolini upside down for some reason. But now a days people accept everything they are told. Sorry for the lengthy and somewhat offtopic comments, but i get angry because of all this nonsense people accept these days. Its becoming a shithole
Thanks for sharing , very informative I didn't know that was the case re: the lead pipes , book you right the powers that be care more about those Alphabetically challenged persons hurt feelings than They do for the health of persons who know the differences between their MUM AND DAD , as for moaning your entitled mate there's more than enough to choose from to have one . Stay real healthy and happy .
Lead piping isn't a problem NOW simply because they treat the water with phosphate which coats the inside of the pipe rendering it inert. Only soft water dissolves the pipes, so in some areas this was a real problem. The danger is to the nervous system, so just because you live to a good age doesn't mean your brain wasn't compromised. Lead was taken out of petrol because it was affecting kids' IQ.
Years ago mate I had a conical mould for .22 it was made by LEM SPITZER you could push em through a 5.5 mm sizer to make a reasonable slug . I have heard some new moulds are in the pipe line now , might struggle with. 177 but I cant see .22 or .25 being an issue
Cant see how the powers that be can enforce this up and coming ban anyway...5 year transition period is a long time to get stock piling so that's what I'll be doing
At 30 quid a tin it's worth buying a swaging kit, for a couple of hundred. Use recycled lead to make your own pellets. It'll pay for itself in no time. I've got a lot of lead pipe, blowpipe solder and a few sticks of old fashioned plumbers lead keep me going for a while.
@@manofkentcatapultsgunsando5069 Thanks for the sub. I'll have a go at making something shootable. I really fancy getting into catapults now, or crossbows maybe.
Crikey I'm losing subscribers , they must be BASC MEMBERS 🤣 Give a Sub for more NO NONSENSE STRAIGHT TALKING 🍻
I agree with you so I'll subscribe.
Gun trade and shooting organisations have sold us down the river by not fighting this
@@gavinshiels7899 100 PERCENT mate , BASC is not worth a bucket of cold piss , Thanks 👍👍
Everyone should cancel basc there not helping at all
@@garyturner6194 They dont care mate
@@manofkentcatapultsgunsando5069 i can maybe understand it with shot gun but not center fire ,rimfire or airguns fhe alternatives are not accurate . Dont think basc as seen the obvious thing that will happen JOB LOSSES in gun produces from gun shop and we will lose load of money on are guns as no one will buy them
“Lead is bad for the environment!”, but lead is actually mined from the environment so it’s been there all the time. 😂
Yep Lead is bad, but copper, Tin, and other alternatives are good! Lead oxidises easily and this oxide is the compound that lubricates the barrel. Tin oxidises too but at around 500C ( easily reached in an air gun particularly a piston operated one ) it takes on the Stannic Oxide form which is a hard abrasive used to polish glass. The steel used in air gun barrels is actually a very soft steel, and in no time your £2000+ air gun is rendered useless.
That's a very good statement lol 😆
@@lensman5762 So perhaps plate the pellets with a thin layer of lead?
Stupid comment
It’s not about lead,it’s about removing our freedoms.
3:45: You hit the nail on the head. They don't give a toss about safety if they have to pay to make it safe.
Infact you hit the nail on the head with the entire video. Spot on mate.
Only telling the truth , cheers mate 👍
I'm just going to stock pile my lead pellet over the next 5 years or so. I'll keep a Tin of whatever we're supposed to use. All my old pellets get recycled into 10mm bbs for the cattys.
Dont blame you mate , the shotgun thing was a bitter pill but this is just a joke 👍👍
I'll pack up lead when Boris pack's in partying.
Yea 😂 Great reply 👍
Please don't blame bojo, the people pulling the strings will still be pushing these legaslations long after Boris is pushed out.
He is by far the lesser evil.
As far as puppet leadership goes, he's one of the better choices.
@@KS-nm6li were well and truly knackered then 😂😂
@@manofkentcatapultsgunsando5069 nah, I got a 3d printer, I can print plastic pellets, in .177 .22 .50 .68 and my 6mm Bb's come in 1kg bags.
Like I mentioned, I shoot for fun not for serious accuracy.
Be more British my man, and find those lovely loop hole they leave in our legal system for us to legally exploit.
I haven't read the legislation yet but it's likely you can just make your own lead pellets with a die, To get around the ban. Being a man with access to 'free'lead i'm surprised your not doing it already!
As for pest control, not that I have an issue, but if I did, there are some viable options such as the Wembley HD range, the large polymer rounds are surprisingly accurate and deliver the maximum UK legal power for both pistol and rifle formats and since the rounds are quite huge this is delivered as Blunt force trauma, which is what you want to eliminate pests imo.
The ammo is mostly reusable to.
@@KS-nm6li I make plenty of ammo mate , rifle , shotgun, slingshot, all lead , iwas making .22 ammo back in the early 80s but pellets are to small to waste time with I'd rather buy em 😀
The shooting community needs to come together and call for a ban on all lead piping ,contact your local MP / councils ,as you said ,if it is really about the environment ,this would put spanner in the works ,thanks excellent video
Thanks mate 👍👍
Spot on mate this needs to be said before it's too late
Lead piping isn't a problem NOW simply because they treat the water with phosphate which coats the inside of the pipe rendering it inert. Only soft water dissolves the pipes, so in some areas this was a real problem.
@@user23867 The danger is to humans and animals - lead harms the nervous system. The phosphate layer stops the lead dissolving in the water that humans are drinking. The pipe in the ground does no harm - usually it is under tarmac or concrete and not affecting drinking water. Eventually it will be removed and melted down for reuse. Lead shot and pellets that end up in animals might be eaten. Lead shot and pellets that end up in the ground are not easily reclaimed, or detected - they are there forever and may be concentrated in one area which might be used for food production years or decades later. They may eventually dissolve in the (soft) rainwater and poison drinking water supplies.
I tried a couple of lead free types of pellets last year in my FX Impact and HW100. They grouped poorly and certainly aren't good enough for the pest control I carry out.
It just dont work mate 👍🍺
get some bullet molds and make your own pellets. As you say, the lead is available in old water pipes and batteries etc - don't breathe the fumes from battery lead! melt it and skim off the impurities off outside before using the pure lead. take a example from the usa during prohibition which outlawed alcohol a whole clandestine cottage industry grew up around bootleg liquer - they will never learn - you can't ban a popular product from the people - you can only drive the price up and push it onto the black market.
@@barking.dog.productions1777 Won't work in airguns.
@@Patrick-857 pure lead will be bad in an air gun, but a mixture of antimony mixed with lead works great... mix the lead with zinc...
You can even wash the pellet with copper for even less barrel fouling
I'm not from the UK, but i think going to other materials for projectiles is all about disarming the general public.
What i've heard about the subject is,
Older shotguns are not always pressure rated for steel shot.
Copper shot over a fibre wad eats up shotgun barrels.
Copper projectiles wear out rimfire and cf barrels.
Airguns can't hit s barn door with lead free pellets.
This isn't happening to the uk alone.
Canada is cutting into firearm laws.
The US will be very soon.
Mainland Europe is going into en ammo crisis. Prices skyrocket due to covid shortages, now due to Ukraine. Lead will be banned as well because of the 2030 climate agreement.
We'll have to find our own way around it mate , thanks for watching 👍
I'm in agreement with you. It does seem to be disarmament.
I'm not really a conspiracy nut, I like to keep myself on the side that makes sense.
But I just can't see a lead ban on guns being all that beneficial to the environment.
Completely disarming the public is one of our central banker-owned governments main objectives. What's actually been taking place for the past two years, worldwide, is the implementation of 'United Nations Agenda 21' legislation. Simply put, it's communism 2.0 for the 21st century, with communist China's odious 'social credit score' being introduced in all countries.
The people responsible for this are, as I mentioned, the globalist central bankers, the richest and most powerful people on Earth. Here's what's taking place right now in Britain:
The 'Online Safety Bill' is currently in draft form and the government is looking for additional ways to “strengthen” it. These changes are expected this year. Our corrupt, central banker-owned government are categorising what they refer to as 'misinformation' online in the same criminal bracket as rape and terrorism.
“If the road to hell is paved with good intentions, this Bill is a motorway.” - internet lawyer Graham Smith
The UK government is also planning to re-work our human rights laws to put an increased emphasis on “personal responsibility” and our supposed “duties to the wider society”, as well as preventing people “abusing” their rights. In otherwords, if the government say we should take part in an experimental medical treatment, all for the 'greater good', we'll have no way of refusing their demands. It's to be known as the British Bill of Rights.
I hope this information helps you.
@@wolfenstein6676 you sound like an absolute fool!
Is what a coworker told me early '21 when i had first heard of great reset and talked some about it.
Yes, you are rigth i said, the people wouldn't accept that many change and revolt if it is even true.
That guy came back to me some weeks ago and said, what you talked about is really happening. Step by step and bit by bit... But it is.
@pino colada It's a nightmare, Pino, a nighmare that our people are walking straight into, but the majority of them still don't see it, or don't want to admit it. We have some very dangerous days ahead of us and all we can do now as families/individuals is to prepare for it by making ourselves as independent as we can from this corrupt system.
Very good point . I didn’t know that . WELL SAID . I liked your comment about BSAC not worth a bucket of cold piss too.
Thanks for watching mate, As for a bucket of cold piss ,,,,,,,,,,well there not are they 👍🍺🍺🍺💥
Since i am not a native english speaker i do not understand much of his accent. But since this is about lead ammunition ban and he is speaking about it with a angry face, i totally agree about everything he just said.
🤣🤣 Thanks Mario 🍺🍺
@@manofkentcatapultsgunsando5069 😉🍺
happened years ago with lead shot for fishing. only the smallest shot can be lead. I think everything above BB has to be lead free. 31 years ago.
Agreed mate. I am still bitter about giving up my handguns even though I did nothing wrong. I wish everyone good luck in the future but I think the country is fucked.
Good video.
It is fucked mate 👍
I don't know about it being fucked, but we certainly are. For years the very same people who have now lined up to supply Ukraine with all manner of munitions, were lining up to meet and greet Putin. London is the playground of the ultra rich, Russians, Chinese and Arabs. Now we are told that all manner of food and commodities have gone up 50% in price over a two months period because Ukraine is no longer producing this and that. Our food comes from Ukrains, our electronics and other stuff from China, the oil and precious metals from Russia and Africa and so on. So what are we doing, or rather what our government has been doing? Smething doesn't add up.
The whole world is fucked mate, not just the country.
The W.E.F have infiltrated all "super power" governments, now they want the people of those nations disarmed so they can't fight back. That's why all these mass shootings keep kicking off in US, false flag excuses to take peoples guns.
Never give up whatever you have now, and if you can, buy more.
While you can.
It was fucked in March 2020 when people agreed to “2 weeks to flatten the curve”
@@redpillnibbler4423 Personally I say it was way before then. They only got that because it was fooked already.
Absolutely spot on I grew up with all lead pipes in our house and I’m 79 and still going strong. It’s a con as with everything these days 🙄
Absolutely Charlie, 👍👍🍺
Yea if your pipes are undamaged you’re prob lucky, like asbestos, if it’s untouched and undamaged, jobs a good un, but say damaged pipe lagging, you’re fooked.
Talking good sense Mr M.O.K. Hang on to that lead piping you replace and manufacture your own projectiles !
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They don’t want people having guns full stop,it’s time people woke up.
Public water suppliers in the UK add phosphate to the water as it enters supply to inhibit lead dissolution from the lead piping.
Most of em are very broken down internally, you can put what you like in the water at the pump station and UV plants , it wont stop the pipe disintegrating
The phosphate mops up dissolved or exposed lead ions. So it doesn't care about the state of the pipe. The resulting lead phosphate is insoluble so you get a coating on the inside of the pipe of white/brownish crud, or it gets pushed along to somewhere where it can sink into a quiet spot. The aim is noboby drinks the free lead.
I think the science on all this is pretty strong which doesn't mean it can never change, but it's really quite unlikely. A better option for contesting any restrictions might be to look to options for collecting and recycling the lead where this is do-able like indoors.
FWIW - haven't tried lead-free pellets and I don't recycle my plinking........but maybe I should.
Funny hat lead comes out of the ground naturally and they worried it’s going back 🤨
It's not the ground that's so much the issue, it's the water and plants.
It can do serious damage to humans (especially children) if ingested or inhaled.
I do understand the argument for banning it, I just don't think it's going to do much.
It’s about removing peoples freedom to hunt.
Chipping away at shooting again
Refuse to submit to dictators.
I'm rebellious 😂👍🍺
We have been using lead shot for 200 years. Look at the amount fired on the great game shoots in the early 1900's. Then ask yourself where is all the dead and dying wildlife which lives on these estates? A proper survey needs to be conducted into what, if any, effect lead pellets are having, because I haven't seen such information yet.
For example, why not examine the crop / stomach contents of pheasants and partridges to ascertain exactly how many lead pellets they have consumed? Or do blood tests to establish lead levels?
It's just BS and the BASC have rolled over. I for one will never rejoin the pointless organisation.
Fieldsports magazine recently published an article on the state of UK rivers. According the the HSE, in 2020, only 14% were deemed 'good' for wildlife and when tested for fertilizer content, it went to a 100% fail. In addition they report 400,000 instances of raw sewage being discharged into rivers by Water Companies.
Further, Domestic cats are estimated to kill up to 270 MILLION birds and mammals in the UK every year.
Surely, these issues have a far greater detriment to our wildlife than lead shot, but are almost completely ignored.
I've said it a thousand times mate, it's a load of bollocks 👍👍🍺
@@manofkentcatapultsgunsando5069 Subbed. We need to kick back on this tosh.
@@skipmole612 Needs everyone mate 👍
I hope these points will be raised when the ban is discussed in parliament, but I doubt facts and figures will defeat emotional and political points scoring. Great Britain should be called Great Ban It.
Absolutely mate, I could not agree any more with that 👍
Galena is in the environment. Using it for ammo only recycles it. Galena typically is found in hydrothermal veins in association with sphalerite, marcasite, chalcopyrite, cerussite, anglesite, dolomite, calcite, quartz, barite, and fluorite. It is also found in association with sphalerite in low-temperature lead-zinc deposits within limestone beds. Minor amounts are found in contact metamorphic zones, in pegmatites, and disseminated in sedimentary rock.
Agree with everything you say. They are going after lead ammo as a means to get everyone to pack-in shooting. What will be the point in having a £1K plus rifle that gives a 3" group at 30 yds, with £30 a tin, lead free pellets ?
Exactly mate, makes my blood boil , They started on shotguns, then Rimfire and full bore, now Air rifles , theres no evidence behind any of it
Totally with you mate it makes no sense,apart from replacing all the pipes would cost them billions so it will never happen. I think more people need to be made aware of this as if people are more concerned about the lead pipes they may forget about pellets 👍🏼👍🏼
Absolutely mate , it's a no brainer 👍👍👍
Lead piping isn't a problem NOW simply because they treat the water with phosphate which coats the inside of the pipe rendering it inert. Only soft water dissolves the pipes, so in some areas this was a real problem.
@@lindosland Yea I've heard this argument a few times , but as every water company in the UK has different ideas on water treatment it's a bit hit and miss , it all comes down to the source of the water and whoever is treating it , sometimes the inside bore of the pipes I work on are completely broken down and flakey , and the bottom line is there lead and people are drinking out em 👍
@@manofkentcatapultsgunsando5069 I agree that if the inside is flakey, it may be dissolving, or maybe it did in the past. The way to settle the matter is to test the level of water at the tap. I contacted Trent Water about this many years ago, having drunk water from a lead pipe throughout childhood. They put me onto a scientist who was really interested and genuine and went into detail and measurements. He assured me that phosphate treatment had ended the problem and I didn't have to rush to replace the pipe. The harm done by lead is subtle, and mostly to the brain, and the effects hard to diagnose, so I don't take it lightly. They took the lead out of paint (kids in poor areas were eating flaking old paint), then petrol (measurable IQ loss in children). The problem is that the world is so full of busy people, and cars, and everything now that all pollution is becoming a problem. When I was born there were only a third as many people on the planet, very few cars, and it's not so very long since there were only a million people in the UK (now 70 million). I guess back in the days of muskets we could afford to scatter lead about. Catching the pellets from practice targets seems a good idea and I will do that. I shoot rabbits, so I'm with you when it comes to needing effective pellets. Of course, depleted uranium pellets would probably be super good - fancy scattering those around as the military did in Iraq?!
As a kid walking around with air rifles we used to chew a pellet(for what ever stupid reason) my mates all did too.... were still here...this lead ban is utter rubbish...
Yea mate , pinching split shot on your fishing line as well with ya teeth 👍👍
You are totally correct both about the getting air guns off the public. Also about the lead water pipes .
Thanks for your comments Andy , air rifles have always been the gateway to shooting sports, this is the Government's way of nipping shooting in the bud , but you know as well as me responsible and legal gun ownership is not the problem.
Iv been really enjoying your videos ! Keep up the work :)
Thanks mate 💥💥🍺
Your absolutely bang on mate. We won’t be allowed to do anything before long.
It seems that way mate 👍🍺
🎯 that is the intention.
People need to take up archery. They can NEVER get rid of it
I've used lead pellets for over 60 years , and won't be changing to the new lead free pellets any time soon , if it means putting up a pellet catcher at my local club ,then so be it ( it's what the 10 metre pistol shooters do now ,to catch and recycle there lead ) also what about the lead water pipes that most people in the UK are still getting there water supply from ???,and the lead flashings& valleys on most houses that discharge into to water ways and then end up in the drinking water supplies.I have tried the new lead free Green pellets in many of my guns , they are to light for accuracy,the groupings are terrible, shooting the same gun with lead pellets the groupings are great ( so a pellet catcher at your shooting preferred distance would be great !!! ) I would suspect that many club shooters could set up a variety of catchers at different distances and all Thier lead could be recycled,Leave us to our sport !!! Don't try and ban it !!! And don't try to rip us off by charging extortionate prices for some that doesn't harm the environment as much a steel or other materials ,as claimed by those in power !!! I've been drinking water for almost 70 years , supplied through lead piping ,I think if there was any problems,THE GOVERNMENT WOULD HAVE BEEN REPLACING IT WELL BEFORE NOW .Write to your local MP and air your views on this subject,before it's made law !!!
Thanks Steve for the comments, I've got plenty more to say about the matter and so called Gun control, I just have to be careful in telling the truth as it can get you into trouble these days ,,,I never thought I'd see the day when telling the truth would actually become an offence 👍
yeah man , preach the word , loada bollocks , lets see what happens
Ridiculous mate ain't it ,
Good points well made. Country going to the dogs the price of basics through the roof, people frightened to turn the lights on or the heating up because of the cost.
Then you get someone with nowt better to do than take a swipe at peoples pastimes .Maybe they need to take a long hard look in the mirror and ask themselves if they are putting their energies into the real problems people face day to day or a cheap shot at a minority.
I took the lead pipe from the toby to the house out of here when we moved in i didnt like the thought of the kids drinking from lead there must be thousands of houses just round here that have no idea they are still on lead and the government are worried about a few airgun pellets............Crazy
The whole thing is a load of cobblers mate , there gone at full bore as well , and where is BASC ............nowhere as usual , completely useless, The UK is shagged mate
@@manofkentcatapultsgunsando5069 lop
@@fionacope6319 What's a lop ?
It’s about removing peoples freedom to hunt.They want to ban airguns altogether or have it like Germany with 6 ft lbs limit.
At end of day they want no competition when they take over completely
I agree that lead pellets are better, and am not sure what the solution is (raise permitted energy to compensate?) but the simple fact is that lead IS harmful to health. The harm is mostly to the nervous system, especially in children, hence the ban on lead in paint because they were eating the flakes of old paint on old buildings. The water pipes WERE dangerous to health, as I was growing up, but they aren't any more for a very good reason. Soft water dissolves the lead, while some hard water doesn't, and in particular phosphate forms an inert lead phosphate coating inside the pipe. My water authority told me that they add phosphate to soft water now to render the pipes safe. Just because you lived to a good age doesn't mean your brain wasn't compromised.
Every water company has it's own ideas on treatment,,,,,it all comes down to the water source and whoever is treating it ,,,,,,a lot of the pipes I work on are completely broken down and flakey on the inside , a lot of the inside condition of the pipe comes down to the draw on the supply
I’m a builder and a shooter. If lead is that perilous to life and contaminants the water in the land, I agree completely with you. There are miles of lead pipes in the ground. Why ain’t we ripping off the lead roofing from historic buildings. Why are we using code 3,4 and 5 lead in building works to meet building regulations. YES just another wrap to stop shooting. If lead is that lethal then why on battle fields wild life and grass land thrives. Why are we still producing lead?? Why ain’t the shooting body’s standing up instead of rolling over. Alternative agenda I think. Great video
Cheers mate , I've had plenty more to say , but my last video got took down when I happened to mention the cause of Gun crime in the UK. No one wants to sort out the real issues
In the name of ,,,,,,,,,, well you know anyway dont ya 👍👍🍺
Absolutely spot on video well done pal 👍
Thanks mate 👍
Totally agree with you, when the last lead pipe is removed from uk properties then the powers that be can discuss ammunition. We have a choice whether to eat food shot with lead, we don't have a choice when it comes to drinking water from our own taps.
Exactly that mate , Thanks for watching 💥👍🍻
Excellent, to the point video. The whole thing is about removing guns from private ownership. It’s been shown that in rimfires and air rifles that lead substitutes don’t work. Vermin control, target shooting, vintage air rifles and rimfires, are all going to be crushed if this ridiculous ban goes ahead. Where are the facts about lead issues caused by shooting?
Thank you, There is no evidence mate , it's the ol environment card that's played to meet an agenda, I've got plenty more to say on the matter I just have to be careful what I say , I've already had 1 video removed on the matter when they first started on shotgun cartridges , it's a joke mate👍
You didn't mention the poisoning of wildfowl by ingesting lead shot from shallow dabbling grounds. This voluntary move away from lead in wildfowling may save a few birds but in reality the lead is already out there. The Romans used it and its being picked up all over fields by people out metal detecting. However there, it ends. Ducks and dabbling grounds....gizzard grinding up fallen shot...that's as far as it goes. I use shotgun, rimfire and airgun. The shotgun made in 1886 and was my father's shoots acceptably with the new steel shot....yes, more expensive but not prohibitively so. If I were shooting woodies by the 100's for crop protection then I'd be concerned about cost then. Pest control with airgun and rimfire will never be the same. Grey squirrels, who kill more songbird chick's on the nest than domestic cats, are a major threat that need controlling. Using traps works but I can't physically Check the traps every day as required. Lightweight alternative ammo just won't have the power to do the job at range and many animals will crawl off to die a slow painful death. Concerns over birds eating the carrrion are really so rare. I clear up everything I shoot except foxes which have no bird likely to eat the carcass here in the UK.
Air rifle target shooting has absolutely no bearing on any of this and the discipline will be lost to the likes of back yard plinkers. I've shot all my life, and eaten much that was shot with lead. We pass it through with minimal toxic effect. We don't have a gizzard! This is just another taxable benefit and way of getting rid of 'troublesome' guns for those in power. 2 nights ago I lost my 7 hens to the fox. I will kill it with lead. But that piece of lead weighs less than 0.1oz. That will rot away with the fox and be left in the ground, probably forever. I find lead bullets that were fired during the war or before with little perceptible oxidation, no more than lead on the roof, yet you could be talking 100's of kilos of lead on a roof. What about tea bags? They get thrown on my compost heap to rot away into new soil but not so..... Manufacturers don't use glue to seal them, the paper bag is laced with thermo plastic so they can heat seal them shut. My garden is therefore contaminated by micro plastic which may well be taken up by vegetables I grow. I then eat the veg and some of that plastic finds its way into my body tissues. There are many things wrong in this world but politicians take a knee jerk to the easily adapted items that may generate more cash, or help ban use of guns. Let's see how much of a lead ban by America. They'll just laugh and tell the authorities to feck off! Stop their shooting? No chance.
@@manofkentcatapultsgunsando5069
Lead in solder was only banned in 1999 so there are many houses with soldered copper joints which contain lead - true its far less but still present and going straight into the home for human consumption. It wasn't;t so long ago that people used to run their tapes for a few tens of seconds to flush the lead through, but if course we don't do that because it 'wastes' water. Actually it wastes a lot less water than the water companies do but that's a different story.
Just read that there are 63,000 tonnes of tyre rubber micro structure particles spread over the country, rivers, lakes, etc. every year. Thats from SUEZ the waste company's calculations. These micro particles are far worse for us and the environment, they get into everything, yet no one says anything about them - could it be because the self-righteous 'greens' all get around in rubber tyred vehicles. And they are only after banning shooting because they don't like it.
Vermin controllers provide a service that few understand, yet they provide benefit, even to vegans, with that service, generally unpaid. Without vermin control the loss of precious food to species that will expand their numbers as the food supply is increased and continue to do so whether its food for vegans or cattle, sheep, pigs for normal people.
I'm not saying eliminate all 'vermin' species just control their numbers and for that to be done humanely lead is required.
Rant over
@@jeremymoss1117 Great comments mate, well said and of course Very true ,,,,,,👍👍🍻
all guns and property is private ownership. the legislation only apply to a person not a MAN. go find out and research what a person means in law. they wont be taking anything from me
I have always said it, every thing you said your spot on mate, dig up the hole country and change all the lead pipe we drink out of but they won’t be doing that will they,
No mate , the whole thing is a farce , just like most things nowadays, thanks for your comments mate 👍🍻
When the time comes we need to have skills like archery.
Archery is good but you will find you can very good with a crossbow much quicker than a bow , if you can shoot you can use a crossbow
This could lead to a black market, we all moan as we get older bud don’t feel guilty for it. Keep up the good work🤙🏼
Cheers pablo , plenty more moaning to come , a lot of my videos are deleted for telling the truth about certain circumstances 🍻
They'll be banning fists and for heads next
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Well said, couldn’t agree with you more. It’s a load of nonsense. I’ll be keeping an eye on what transpires and kicking off against the ban as soon as they try and make it law. How are the going to police it? Total rubbish, ain’t they got anything better to do?
Rubbish indeed mate 👍
Geez! How many lead pellets do they think are been shot around the place? They should probably take lead out of aviation fuel first, probably far more goes straight into the air from small private airplanes as opposed to airgunners that gets trampled back into the ground where it came from. You'll be losing your lead sinkers for in the sea next!
It's a load of bollocks mate , but they have postponed the ban at the moment due to the backlash from shooters 💥💥🍻🍻👍
Learned something new again 👍.
I have never heard of lead water pipes.
Maybe you boys in Finland was on to something 👍👍
Spot on m8. Just trying to ban everything that people enjoy 👍
You know it mate 🍻👍
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Well said mate...... I went to Nottingham Tech and specialised in plumbing. Mother bought me Townsend -Plumbing. The data says the 1 ft x 7 pipe I have weights 7 lb per yard . The weight of this 1 ft of lead standard in Britain weighs 2 lb - 5.5 oz...... As anyone can see this pipe is actually heavier now than when it was manufactured
90 years ago........ It seems in good condition and shows no signs of corrosion inside or out.
So much for Severn Trent donley's years ago advising us that lead in Nottingham was / is Plumbosolvent.
Fully agree with you 👍 The police & military are excempt from any lead shot ban, only the public 🥱
There you have it mate 👍
@@manofkentcatapultsgunsando5069 Next Gov will want to ban home loading equipment.
@@andrewclaxton6446 I dident think of that ,👍
@@manofkentcatapultsgunsando5069 Gov has mentioned it 😩 So that's incoming.
@@manofkentcatapultsgunsando5069 For your own protection, you need full ballistic body armour & a Ned Kelly helmet to shoot rats at 15yds when using lead free pellets 😀
When you've finally had enough and stand up to them, they'd prefer you only have sticks and stones. And that's what it's all about.
They banned the use of lead in artists'
oil paints such as Flake White and Cremnitz White which is rather annoying as these paints dry well and form a good impasto. Likewise, Cadmium is gradually being replaced in yellow and red paints, originally on the basis that it was harmful to the environment as it was being washed down sinks during the cleaning of brushes.
It seems to me that the nanny state has gone too far and has tried to take away individuals' rights to make informed choices.
I cant disagree with you on that one mark👍👍🍺
GREAT video!! I got my airgun bottle filled up at the dive shop recently; and while I waited I had a mooch about. Guess what I saw?? Divers weights.... LEAD weights. Wonder what will happen there!
Exactly mate 💥🍺
Ridiculous that. Under the guise of enviro-awareness. Plenty more up their sleeves no doubt
Plenty mate , I've been watching this unfold since 1987 , I think theres bigger issues than a bit of lead , Raw sewage being pumped into the Rivers and the sea on a daily basis for one
It's just a crutch 👍👍
As they go on about peoples mental health and anxiety [ which i suffer from ] i cant think of any thing more relaxing even when i miss and talking to like minded people for a few hours you cant beat it and now this comes along .
Absolutely mate, but we cant let the bastards grind us down , I've been pretty vocal on the subject to the point of having videos removed from here beleive it or not , all the best mate dont forget to subscribe for more future moans 💥👍🍻
You can recycle a lead battery almost to 100% but you can't do this with lithium battery's.
I have stopped watching TV for many many years, it's only brainwashing bullshit in the square box.
100 percent mate , you can tell what's planned for England by the Adverts and the soaps , 👍👍🍺
Hi, new subscriber here! The only way I see a way out is to buy in bulk either now or build up supplies over time. Get together with other shooters to make very large orders. You would then be in a position to negotiate some damn good deals. Stuff using a non-lead product on a rifled barrel. I keep chickens, therefore I have my own rat supply. I need accuracy up to 45 yards, at night. (HW100/Thermion xp38)
I agree mate , but we shouldn't have too , this country is going to the dogs , 💥💥👍
They need to stop arms sales abroad from now then, but they won't because they make lots of money doing that so On goes the Hypocrisy.
WELL SAID!!! If lead is so bad for the environment then I ask the question “ where does lead come from in the first place”?
FROM THE GROUND 😂😂😂👍👍👍🍺🍺
I hope you keep posting issues like this on TH-cam (I’m too ugly to show my face on there lol) also if you, or you know of any petition that we can join regarding this and other ‘anti shooting BS please let me know and I will be more than happy to put myself/name to it!
It’s getting to the point we’re u won’t be able to fart in a public place, bloody nanny state !!
Wont be long
The biggest joke was when I was told that I have to get a firearm’s for my Brocock Pistol air guns
I remember that 👍
The U.K. government is a joke.
my local gun shop owner told me of two midland police gun control officers came to his shop, and examined a umarex co2 john wayne colt ssa colt 45, and said ?? THIS COULD BE EASILY CONVERTED TO THE REAL THING ????? in other words they dont know the difference between gun metal, and dressed steel ??????
Dont get me started on so called firearms experts mate 😂😂👍
Wow, I was heading off to buy a Gamo GX40 and a compressor this Saturday, don't think I'll bother now, also out of curiosity I checked under my sink and sure enough there's a lead water pipe coming through the floor..
Save your money mate
You can pick lumps of lead up from the ground on hill tops 15 miles from where I live, first time I did it was in Geography class 53 year's ago, rain falls on these hills and flows into the reservoir in the valley, but oh no PELLETS...
But nobody listens mate 💥🍺
I find tonnes of old lead pipe in Victorian era tips, usually in the form of pipes, but sometimes just mangled up lumps.
I've also found asbestos sheets, but have left them WELL alone.
You make an excellent point about electric cars too, how long will it be before people start dumping them in reservoirs? 👍
The whole thing is a load of bollocks mate , all the best 👍
Electric cars arn’t about being ‘environmentally friendly’ and neither is banning lead pellets,it’s all bullshit.
I feel like it’s about disarming the general public of ANY type of gun. They don’t want anyone to posses the ability to shoot a gun of any kind, except for the army who they control. It makes you wonder what’s coming in the coming years.
The Government we have now would rather a father teach his son how to do his make up , than teach him how to get a rabbit or two with his air rifle 😤
Totally agree with everything you said 👍 👏
Cheers john👍👍🍺🍺
I remember when they made fisherman/woman stop using lead weights.
Fisherwomen 😂
Aye, we are all doomed. !! We will just need to go back to the sword and the spear.
I make you 100% correct, BASC member
They can take my air rifle’s from my cold dead hands
The words of the Great Charlton Heston 👍👍
Fantastic video my pellets are £26 for 200. And buy lead pellets up at boot fairs if can find them I got six tins for £15. Like I said fantastic video. And you don't need a debate your right there wrong.
Thanks mate , since I put this up today people have unsubscribe, they must be BASC members 🤔
I got Plenty of lead il give em hahahahaha
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Your bang on mate I am on the water in folkestone and its nearly all lead
Hello there , Crikey I Remember the old Folkstone and Dover water company back in the 80s run out of the cheriton yard , yea plenty of lead down there mate 👍👍
It's all about that people should not have weapons. Like in China, you are not even allowed the carry a pocket knife. I just subscribed! Cheers!
Cheers mate 🍻🍻🍻👍
Cumbria lead pipes till 06
Shocked about the Scotland RFC 12flbs law, wtf
Used air guns from age 10 to 30 never hurt anyone and as if i remember right, it was 500 .22 in 500 rabbits lol
Good how memory changes lol
Glad I found your channel, I'm younger than you but was having exactly the same moan. It's utterly ridiculous on so many levels.
It is mate , far more important things to worry about than a bit of lead 👍
This Lead shot is bad for people and the environment all started in a big way in the 1960s thanks to some person flying a keyite in the shooting press claiming people can develop lead poisoning from eating lead shot in game birds. Next thing the greens jumped on the band waggon with lead in the environment. they went very quiet when it was pointed out that the Peak District and Derbyshire have Lead naturally on and in the surface soil so people should not go walking for pleasure because of the Lead toxicity that did not suit the cause at all but now they are back banging the Lead drum again. This Lead ammunition for shot guns can not be policed, how on earth are they going to check on a private land or estate owner with regards to the type of shot or type of bullet they are using possibly catching them in mid flight at 2000 feet a second. Realistically I am glad my clay shooting days are coming to an end and my sons will have to cope with all this bull shit. Keep your eye on Parliament any excuse to remove guns from the public has been their aim since the Russian revolution rattled their cages.
Your right mate , 100 percent, I've had the video I done today telling the truth on a few matters ,removed from TH-cam
What about lead flashing on roofs, water washes down onto it into the ground.
Lead everywhere mate , 👍
@@manofkentcatapultsgunsando5069 I found a research report on this, and rainwater collected in tanks was found to contain too much lead for drinking. I guess that dispersed in the ground it does not get into humans easily.
@@lindosland I suppose if you look for something hard enough you will find it , 👍
Well said.
Cheers 🍺
Statistically one of the safest pastimes, most airguns are shot in indoor ranges and the pellets collected, they just can't leave people alone
Absolutely mate 👍
Looks like we will have to stock up mate
Yes mate
Just wow!!! 😡! I think you are dead on with your logic is with the situation brother. I never thought I’d see the day that lead would become a possible smuggling item!
Thanks mate , Dont it come out the ground in the first place 🤣
as you said pal just an excuse to take our guns off us
Exactly mate 👍
Liked and subbed 👍
You are completely right.
Thanks mate 👍🍺
They wont take our fridges because of CFCs
It's s a newer refrigerant now, but they still say a special firm needs to empty them.
Get a airduster, clean your pc
Guess what they use, air? Noooo its a refrigerant
Same with hair spray
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How many roofs in the country have lead flashing all over them?
Nearly all of em
Totally agree, your spot on, even though it's bad news for Air Guns, really feel for those using Shot Guns
Yes mate , agreed, I use both so I'm really fed up 👍
Yeah the lead hasn’t hurt you. Health food for the brain.
Love a bit of lead on my cornflakes
They just don't want the population as a whole to know how to use guns. I have no idea what these guys have planned for our future, but having come from a country whose people are now suffering under a brutal, corrupt and fascist totaliterian regime, I am of the firm opinion that democracy which in essence is nothing but people determining their own future, would be in grave danger if the population were ultimately defenceless. Rights and Freedoms that we now enjoy ( clinging on to, to be precise ), were never given, but won by force from the very same people whose descendants are still at the helm in this country, in one shape or another. If in doubt, just look up the Peterloo Massacre of 1819 in Manchester. The British Cavalry running peaceful men and women down while protesting against inhumane working and living conditions. I often wonder why the BBC is so concerned with the gun laws of the USA?
Sad to see what's happening to England
@@manofkentcatapultsgunsando5069 It is sad, the shame of it is that it is done under the evil banner of ' Globalism', but that we or rather our politicians, are at the vanguard of this evil movement. A select few are reaping the rewards, while the rest of the population are staggnating or are in retrograde motion. We now see a government in the UK, happily presiding over the highest ' official ' inflation figure in over 40 years, with the price of Gas and Petrol having gone up by around 55% withing a couple of months. While the majority of population are suffering and have to think about balancing eating food or going hungry, our chancellor is quite happy collecting nearly 50% of the price of Gas in tax and the VAT. Where is it all going? I guess banning Lead pellets takes priority over making sure that people have enought to eat with. Wait till the cold months when the shit will really hit the fan, and what have they come up with, The Right To Buy. The resurrection of a disasterous and failed 1980s policy of Thatcher that caused the social housing crisis that we now witness. Almost 60% of those council houses that were sold for next to nothing to the tenants have ended up in the hands of the landlords.
dont worry Man of Kent.....
Lead will be used for ever. Rooftops, you name it. Everywhere.
So we will always be able to make our own pellets.
btw, they complain about the environment?????
So why are they, our governments in our western democratic Free countries, sending major weapons towards eastern europe?
And what about the shit that is still in the ground from WW2 and 1?
And what about the shit that is used in military practise?
These dips in government should all be taken care of.
I do not understand why people had no problem hanging Mussolini upside down, and yet people seem to accept EVERYTHING from the dictators that are now in power in those socalled Free Democratic Western Countries. (who can believe such nonsense that we are free........ is delusional).
a british historian, perhaps you know him, said: If soldiers who went up the beaches in Normandy to fight for freedom and democracy could see Great Britain as it is today, they would not have gone up those beaches.
We might just as well call our western democratic society by its real name: Soviet Union.
There is almost no difference anymore between over here and over there.
So who are the Ukranians fighting?
Basically their own people.
Because a clown is continuesly provoking his neighbour.
And now the US is giving away major weapons.
It is only a matter of time before the real "Great Reset"
That stuff is gonna escalate pretty soon.
HOPEfully people have learned something from the past. But this is impossible, because the Victors write history.
And nobody has ever taken the time to ask if these victors have told us the truth.
So, did they tell us the truth about Hitler and his friends?
Or is it one big gigantic lie?
There's always a way mate
@@manofkentcatapultsgunsando5069 i came to your video after watching AAR news channel. (i assume you know the channel as well)
Seriously ridiculous what people accept these days.
There is a reason Muricano's are allowed to carry a gun. The second article in the constitution is clear enough for everyone to read.
But i wonder if people will ever use it, this article.
The Muricano's are a bit late on that, and keep accepting tyranny over a real Free and Democratic country.
People accepted the event in 1963 eventhough a blind person is able to see the major problems.
Like Lemmings we are heading for a cliff, and like lemmings we will step over the edge.
And perhaps on the way down we might start thinking.
But, the only thought that will pop up is: is this gonna hurt?
The British Historian (who was discredited, beaten up, jailed, etc etc, for writing books about what he found in the archives) was right. And is right.
These clowns call the Russian leader a dictator. And they try to sell the story that it was Russia who is the agressor.
I wonder why we should believe such nonsense.... Because we did not believe such nonsense when Germany told us 80 years ago.
Infact, we made sure Germany would for ever keep their mouth shut.
And yet now its Ukraine. And the entire western democratic society is against the socalled Agressor, Russia.
People have short memory. Only have to look back as far as 2014 to realize who the real agressors are.
But who cares.
They hung Mussolini upside down for some reason.
But now a days people accept everything they are told.
Sorry for the lengthy and somewhat offtopic comments, but i get angry because of all this nonsense people accept these days.
Its becoming a shithole
Thanks for sharing , very informative
I didn't know that was the case re: the lead pipes ,
book you right the powers that be care more about those
Alphabetically challenged persons hurt feelings than
They do for the health of persons who know
the differences between their MUM AND DAD ,
as for moaning your entitled mate
there's more than enough to choose from to have one .
Stay real healthy and happy .
Thanks mate , 👍
Lead piping isn't a problem NOW simply because they treat the water with phosphate which coats the inside of the pipe rendering it inert. Only soft water dissolves the pipes, so in some areas this was a real problem. The danger is to the nervous system, so just because you live to a good age doesn't mean your brain wasn't compromised. Lead was taken out of petrol because it was affecting kids' IQ.
The Metropolitan Police Service firearms units still use lead ammunition in their service weapons.
Yes mate a 190 grain Fmj over lead will solve most problems 💥👍👍
fantastic my friend you have great idea that pipe...thanks for sharing im her again watching.
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100% correct, it is just a crutch !!!
Is it possible to make your own pellets from waste lead like fishing weights
Years ago mate I had a conical mould for .22 it was made by LEM SPITZER you could push em through a 5.5 mm sizer to make a reasonable slug .
I have heard some new moulds are in the pipe line now , might struggle with. 177 but I cant see .22 or .25 being an issue
Well said sir 👏
Every shooter needs to stick together mate
I have a very old mold for various pellet calibers. I just melt down the lead and pour into the mold.
Then clean up edges with sharp knife.
Dont get rid of it 👍👍
@@manofkentcatapultsgunsando5069
Was made somewhere in Europe as it is really old. Even has the round musket calibers.
30 and 50.
I can even melt a silver coin and make a round or two.😎
Just subbed mate.
Why thank you sir 💥👍
All points are bang on the money bud...Good vid
Cheers mate 🍺
Cant see how the powers that be can enforce this up and coming ban anyway...5 year transition period is a long time to get stock piling so that's what I'll be doing
At 30 quid a tin it's worth buying a swaging kit, for a couple of hundred. Use recycled lead to make your own pellets. It'll pay for itself in no time. I've got a lot of lead pipe, blowpipe solder and a few sticks of old fashioned plumbers lead keep me going for a while.
Why not mate , I remember the L.E.M Spitzer moulds back in the 70s and 80s coupled with a sizing die ,,,,,,good idea 👍 just subbed ya
@@manofkentcatapultsgunsando5069 Thanks for the sub. I'll have a go at making something shootable. I really fancy getting into catapults now, or crossbows maybe.
@@RealAirgunAdventures Why not , catapults are a great pastime 👍
@@manofkentcatapultsgunsando5069 you've talked me into it. I'll have to watch all your videos first though.
@@RealAirgunAdventures why not I have both crossbows and bows for archery
They need to rip all the lead off the church’s too 😂
It's all a load of tosh mate , you know it 👍👍