Farmers protest Welsh government in their thousands
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- Many farmers in the UK and in other parts of Europe are angry and are not afraid to take to the streets in protest. Two days ago there were columns of tractors and clashes with the police in Brussels.
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Today there have been demonstrations outside the Senedd in Cardiff. It's the latest and largest protest so far from Welsh farmers worried about a planned subsidy scheme, requiring 10 per cent of land to be set aside for trees.
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End all food and drink deliveries into the Borough of Westminster.
Stop feeding the beast.
They are protesting against the Welsh Government.
Farmers have my support 100%. They are the backbone of the country ❤
Hahaha
I was talking to a farmer friend of mine, she stated I was rich. I replied an accent doesn't make one rich and hadn't she been on to her husband for a new Range Rover? Anyway I said you don't pay any taxes, if you earn a lot you buy land or equipment. She agreed that this was so, and wilted somewhat.
Well done to all farmers taking this stand. 1000's of us support you. 👍
Farmers need the most support they feed the nations, the world 🌍🙏❤️
God Bless the Welsh Farmers From. NSW. Australia. 🇦🇺🇷🇸
Planting more trees isn't a bad thing, but I always find it hypocritical of governments that they want to destroy productive agricultural land. How about planting those trees in parks, alongside dual carriageways with their wasted verges, unused wasteland and forcing industrial estates to get rid of their lawns and plant trees. These goals can be achieved or nearly achieved in other ways and those options should be considered before destroying one of Wales' most important industries.
71% of land is owned by farmers, so this policy could reforest 7% of land. By contrast you'd have to reforest 24% of all other land to hit the same 7%. And that's not even counting for other private land (residential and commercial property) and the fact that we have a housing crisis
Reforestation particularly of hillsides can help manage flooding which is beneficial to farmers because losing livestock/equipment to flooding is expensive. Animals can graze in woodland but we tend to fence it off and not let livestock near it. This is possibly why the unions are saying it will take the land out of commision. This is false though as can be grazed and provides livestock shelter from the sun in our increasingly hot summers. It is called Silvopasture and Welsh farmers can do it with the correct support. It's not new, it's already done in the UK and farmers would have been doing this 100s of years ago. Arable farmers should be able to substitute trees for hedgerows.
Selling off of farmland because it's not viable to farm will lead to the destruction of farmland. The man saying farming is not viable now (before any of this is a thing) is right and being asked to do this on top of surviving is not possible. Farmers should receive more resources and help. As a country we need to value farmers more as well as the land.
@@not_ever I agree with a lot of what you have said but whilst in Europe we payed twice for our food, first in subsidies and then at the shops. Leaving Europe has resulted in Westminster not making up the shortfall to the Welsh Assembly. They simply don't have the money. Wales is entirely dependant on England. It doesn't pay it's own way. Farmers in the main voted to leave, disregarding the warnings about funding.
@@jeremyatkinson4976 I agree with this but we've left now. And yes a lot of these people probably did vote for Brexit like Turkeys voting for Christmas but we've still got to support them and we need to protect the environment.
If you look at farmers in Europe, they are also suffering and have been since before Brexit. EU subsidies aren't enough to support EU farmers now and weren't enough before Brexit. This means farmers in Wales were probably struggling before Brexit and thought the Tory party would make all their dreams come true if we left.
No, it's farmers who have been for many decades destroying the land, forests woods etc., now it's simply a matter of reclaiming at least part of that. Farmers here in the UK will never become really poor, maybe slightly less rich, yes.
Finally the mainstream media acknowledges whats happening with our farmers🤗✊
"Who controls the food supply controls the people; who controls the energy can control whole continents; who controls money can control the world." - Henry A. Kissinger
Henry Kissinger ?😬 War criminal.
The one GLARING question Channel 4 did not bother to cover in a NEWS REPORT: what are the policy details of the sustainability scheme??? There were at most 2 lines dedicated to the first thing viewers should learn about. Amateurs.
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Not amateurs. Propaganda by way of omission, they are as culpable as the rest of the corporate scum media
Blob Media, They're not here to inform. Everything is Propaganda now.
One other thing , why did Ch3 not challenge that last person to define
what the climate emergency is ?
Judith Curry , Climatologist has written many books on the subject
" There is NO climate crisis "
Climate is changing , it always has and it always will .
If it wasn't for TH-cam we'd never hear a thing about it here in Canada.
Heil Trudeau!
Have you heard of this thing called the internet. Just type in "News Wales".
Better check again, your farmers are having a go now in Canada. Good for them.
The time for peaceful protests has long passed
Why are councils cutting down trees in towns and cities across the country? Why have hundreds of trees been cut down along the M56? Only a few years ago farmers were losing subsidies for land with trees on, many were cut down then. Leave the trees alone and let the farmers manage their land.
Down with the WEF 🎉
GOD BLESS THE FARMERS! 100% BEHIND THEM
Support the farmers from Queensland, Australia 👏👏👏👍👍👍👍👍
My husband is Welsh. Love from Canada home of the Freedom Convoy. Hold the line !
The force Farmers to plant trees on productive land but allow local authorities to cut down every single tree in their cities like Plymouth, done at night without consultation with the local Council Tax payers. Hypocrisy at its best.
Support the farmers! Treat them fairly!
More Farmer's less lying MPs that despise the indigenous of these lands.
The most important people in our society.
We need to ensure we can grow the maximum amount of food in this country instead importing food that should be grown here. That is not sustainable. The problem with any Welsh government consultation is that they will ignore the result if it does not suit their agenda, which is driven by lobbyists with no public overview.
Love from Ireland 🇮🇪 to the Welsh. Scottish. English ❤
Bless them all! They're trying to feed people and it is a very tough job. Let one politician try it for one day.
Farmers rock!!!❤
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Yeah rock bottom
Totally support the farmers
I am behind the farmers. Down with the government!
It is a massive opportunity. Just properly pay the farmers for helping our environment.
How?
They already get subsidies for doing nothing. That's why they are complaining
No. Scrap the scheme and leave things be.
What exactly is wrong with the environment?
Elites trying to control us too much, they are the ones causing the problems that must be controlled
Wow yes farmers...we need you and you better be treated right....
No we don't, we can get cheaper lamb from New Zealand now 🤷
@@blindbrad4719So quantity over quality?
Doesn't sound good to me.
@@TheCrappyRobot New Zealand lamb has always had quality 🤷. We're getting both. Why do you think our MPs sold the farmers up the river 😂
@@TheCrappyRobot nothing quality about wales or the welsh farmers
@@blindbrad4719 Still produced by farmers though. Farmers worldwide deserve respect and fair pay.
What about the farmer protests in Kent???
"World population needs to be decreased by 50%" - Henry A. Kissinger
That says it all .......all U have to do is listen to that ejit Camilla Harris in USA controlling climate and population
The governments of the uk have never treated working men fairly
UK working men bow to their slave owners that's why.
Thank you very much farmers 😍😍😍there is an evolution going on .🤗🤗🤗💗💗💗❤❤❤💓💓💓
nice they can protest outside their partliment.
Nice that they have a parliament to Protest Outside OF.
@@susangarbutt7189 biggest mistake in UK domestic politics: 'let's devolve power to wales and Scotland so internationalist-socialists, posing as celtic nationalists, can worm they way into power by promising the earth before blaming the eventual sh*t-show on the UK government.' No wonder Blair's rat-claw marks are all over it.
and the billionaires double their wealth
We need farmers 👍
ever driven around Wales ?
It all looks pretty green and "wilded" already, ffs !!!!
Brilliant to see the Welsh farmers taking on these land grabbers, like Ireland our country’s have always depended on yous and yous always delivered , the Irish farmers are still listening to the IFA to guide them but will soon realise that they are controlled by the Irish government and they then will rise with the farmers in Europe
IFA are a bunch of traitors
I have the uttermost respect for farmers. Being a farmer is not an easy job, it's a very labour intensive job that involves early mornings and long hours. Livestock farmers also face major problems with things like disease, bovine TB, dog attacks and militant vegan protesters. Without farmers, the world would face global famine and the human race would go extinct.
Supermarkets are part of the problem too. Supermarkets fail to pay farmers a fair price for their produce, which means many farmers no longer sell to supermarkets. Governments need to start showing some respect for farmers, and making laws which mean supermarkets must pay farmers a fair price for the hard work they do making sure everyone has food on their tables.
It's simple, no farmers, no food.
in a world where food security is a major problem, who is dictating these changes ?
I doubt its driven by voters nor farmers
Billy Boy Gates
I don't think supermarkets should be allowed to make profits with food anymore.The profits should be going to hardworking farmers and into making food more affordable for everyone.
Tesco expects retail adjusted operating profit for the 2023/24 full-year to reach between £2.6bn and £2.7bn.
That's only one supermarket brand. How deep are your pockets guys? 🤯
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They have my support, farmers can improve environmentaly and have been, as with any industry there'll be the odd bad egg that makes the headlines. Theres opportunity all over the uk for tree planting and habitat restoration but not at the cost of food production. Enough grade 1 land is covered for ever with housing, concrete and solar panels (to offset the poor sewage processing) . Its an easy eco minded government plan to (just make the farmers plant trees) whom already work 7 days a week and could probably do with an 8th at the same time baffled by the bone idleness of people who want a 4 day week... What a dream. Poorly thought through proposals is not what farmers need. Farmers also shouldnt need to diversify to make a living, if every farmer did whos nicking whos business then? If domestic food production keeps decreasing across the UK as population continues to increase then more food needs importing sounds obvious.. its not sitting on the border waiting, there will be deforestation elsewhere to meet demand, likely to be south america so global carbon emissions will be up much higher than the uks will be down. But the government will be able to boast about meeting net zero targets.
Soon to be no good reliable bearings for the machines needed to plant and harvest food.
We are with the farmers. 100%. Keep it up!
‘We’ aren’t. Sorry, but they bear collective responsibility for ensuring our planet is not damaged. They are FAILING to do that.
Any that voted for Brexit. Zero sympathy.
EU has farmer protests too
@@DrJamsBut EU farmers receive EU subsidies; British farmers don't, anymore!
REALLY, So is it Brexits fault that the German French Belgium Polish etc etc farmers are all protesting. STOP LYING.
Farming will still happen in Wales but it will be Govt sanctioned Corporate farming.
Farmer Phil and liv and Father Phil are the best farmers in the world 🌍.Got it.🇪🇺🇪🇺🇪🇺🇪🇺
Come on UK Farmers back up the welsh make a much need statement .
Love from punjab to the farmers 👍
Grow it on the farm sell it on the farm... farm shops...
Real dumb idea. Do you expect millions of city dwellers to hop on their car and drive to the farms? Real environmentally friendly. Also no village has roads that can take such traffic, just look what happened when Clarkson opened his farm shop. For all intents and purposes a handful of people visited him yet they blocked the entire village.
@@ModernForerunner city dwellers have markets. The people who run the markets have vans, they go fetch it. Its not rocket science is it. And farms having farm shops is very successful its been happening for many many years. The issue is people like to go to the big supermarkets who then control everything. By having farm shops and markets. You take away the power from the supermarkets. And you have the nerve to call me dumb.
It would still be more expensive than the food imported from brazil, where it is grown without those absurd regulations.
@@kudr66 lol no it wouldnt.
@@Jesuswashere616 Yes, it would. Seriously. You don't know what you are talking about.
GO FARMERS!
I've never met a poor farmer. Look at their £200,000 tractors and the farmers voted in favor of brexit and now they moan about it making them poorer. Serves them right. NO FREE MONEY HANDOUTS FOR THEM. DAM SCROUNGERS.
What a mess this country is in, your squeezing the life out of hard working folks and giving others fancy hotels, their on a permanent holiday,food, spending money, ETC, folks have had enough 💯👍
Farmers. Are looking after each other’s interests. Being usually isolated they need to act together. There are forces that are against them know nothing of what they do. Hence it is totally impractical. The public will support the farmers 100% .The more food security we have the better . That means more food not less all home grown. This is another consequence of net zero that if proceeded with must mean less is required elsewhere and money made available for the farmers to. Mechanise where needed.
Support the farmers ✓
Really liked hearing from the progressive farmer that wanted to be part of the solution ! We need more forward thinking people !!
The government hasn't got a clue how to manage the land. Leave the farmers to do the job they are qualified for, land management.
they are qualified to extract value from the land, there are not necessarily obligations to look after it beyond a certain timeline. For many farmers the question is along the lines of "how do I get enough out of this plot fast enough to retire to the beach". You're right that the government doesn't know how to do it properly, but it is the government's responsibility to stop exploitation and insist on good management instead.
@@lewissmart7915 you are so wrong all the farmers I know personally aren't interested in going to a beach to retire. They will work their lands until they can no longer walk the land.
As a nation, we are net importers of food. Our food supply should be protected. Those who wish to reduce or destroy our food supply should be treated as traitors.
Jacob Rees-Mogg left the chat
Go farmers
They never mentioned the w.e.f and their role.
They never mention Klaus Schwab and his cronies with their ,,Great Reset,, agenda
The solution will come when we figure out where all the profits are… if the farmers are hard up, then how are they expected to do more with less.
Eat bugs. While Bill and his mates. own the land. And Eat Real FOOD!
Brexit isn't going well is it
🚜💩💩💩
And did they have Brexit in France, Netherlands, Germany, Poland? You living in a cave?
It's time the Farmers stepped up and owned Brexit. This is a golden opportunity for politicians to put the Farming Unions in their place once and for all.
Good !
Keep it up.
WHAT CLIMATE CHANGE ARE YOU ON ABOUT
"The Way" has started.
The government has no place in farm businesses - fortunately they don't dictate what crops farmers can grow neither where they sell those products. Neither should they should be supporting inefficient businesses to survive - its the farmers job to navigate a successful way forward. That forms the basis of any business. Farmers operate in a commodity market which isn't going to change and rewards low costs and scale - things Welsh farmers generally don't have. So farmers - where can government support farming but achieve some good - by protecting the natural environment which is crucial. To that end you have two choices - don't accept the money, don't make change and be a martyr to conventional thinking and the sacred cows of expecting subsidy for no return OR make the changes required, use them to your advantage and thrive. Even better push for bigger, bolder change and more funding, turn Wales into a food and environment paradise. Even if you don’t want to change you still have to live under the various bits of legislation eg Food Hygiene, Environmental protection, H&S, Employment Law so the small amount of paperwork you have to deal with won’t change.
Farmers always bang on about being custodians of the countryside and food security. The rate of soil and organic matter loss and farm pollution incidents have risen significantly over the last 30yrs. If their custodians they aren’t doing a very good job. The silly argument about food security is a massive red herring. We have food security, the retailers have full shelves, customers have choice and nothing will disrupt that to much (maybe the odd baby corn blip but no one is going to starve). Farming has to stop moaning and complaining, understand it is in a new reality where the world is interconnected, they aren’t that crucial (half the farmers produce about 95% of the calories and protein) and the people have just concerns over climate, habitat, access, better quality and more ethically produced food. Farmers can either steal a march and engage with a really open mind with environmental and wildlife groups, put together some radical and big changes and force government to sit up and listen and fund the changes they propose. If not they deserve to disappear
The food production is so inefficient and expensive because of absurd regulations imposed by the government while the food imported from South America is grown without those regulations.
💜 best comment so far, someone who understands the dynamic.
Unfortunately - Govts ARE dictating how crops are grown and on how much land.. that is one of the issues
You’re own fault for voting Brexit you want to watch the Truckers going back wards with all the Form filling their have to do .Can’t say we’re any better off can you?? 🇪🇺🇪🇺🇪🇺🇪🇺🇪🇺
No farmers, No food
Leave us alone,we wanted the EU to stop giving us back £3bn of contributions,we want to keep killing bees and polluting rivers…..besides,our land is only worth £12 -£15k an acre, keep subsidising our lifestyle !!!
How dare they not be allowed be poison the rivers and lakes !
Not the Big Corps, no?
Yeah! We should import food from 3rd world countries so they can poison their lakes and rivers instead!
Because realistically, that's what will happen if farming becomes unviable in this country. That, or we can all starve to death if you'd prefer.
I bet each and every one of them voted for Brexit and now they're all bitter and twisted about it.
With proper agroforestry land remains profitable and is managed traditionally eg wood pasture,as my paper would argue if I could afford to pay tuition fees.......and no I can not get a loan due to my age
I Support the Farmers
Yes!
Happy fish..can't remember where I heard that one
Where was that coward Drakeford? .
He was dressed as usual for a funeral burying Wales
What control does the Welsh Assembly have over their problems?
Are these payments being put in place to replace the payments that used to be paid via a European union framework, the European Union that the Welsh voted to leave?
They voted brexit, stop moaning!
You are misinformed! Many farmers in Wales did NOT vote for Brexit.
In the EU it is even worse.
The EU is at war with their farmers
Theyre loving their brexit benefits. Worlds tiniest violin for brexit voting welsh farmers.😂
Not seen the farmers protesting the EU?
@@DrJams But EU farmers receive EU subsidies; British farmers don't, anymore!
Appreciate what farmers do but protesting about new 'water pollution' regulations? Google 'Lough Neagh' or the great lakes of North America where regulations have been diluted because of lobbying by 'Big Ag'. Formerly a beautiful lake and now a smelly foul toxic blue/green algae sludge caused by fertiliser run off and presenting a real threat to drinking water.
Channel 4 skirting around the proper farmers protests in Europe…
100 percent with the farmers who just want a fair deal. The amount of protests around the world and where's the media. Shame on the media.
What about the farmers protesting in Kent for the last few weeks, which journos have largely ignored? Not to mention huge farmer protests across Europe to which journos have turned a blind eye?
THIS IS RIDICULOUS ive got ZERO sympathy for them, vast majority voted for Brexit, vast majority were getting EU subsidies, Welsh Government has put a more sustainable model in place and theyre up in arms. Farming in Wales is old, degenerative and antiquated. They should all move to a Permaculture model and it would solve the issue. Or do what NZ did and remove all subsidies entirely, thus spawning a more diverse industry that focuses on Quality not just Sheep and Cows
Farmers are protesting the EU too.
@@DrJams why would you protest something that you're not part of? And something you were getting subsidies from in the 1st place?
Your subsidies claim is a mute point.. Clearly if you get paid 10% of what the retail prices are for growing and fertilizing and paying labor and loans, then it is a miracle farmers have hung on for this long.. Considering given the opportunity you and 99% of the population will buy imports every time.. I have no empathy for greed and ignorance.
@@MarginalFarming subsidies are EXACTLY the point, that's why they're protesting!
@@williamcarter3933Yeah your right mate - silly me - I should have known better -
Farms where forced to get bigger to produce food now they want them smaller...
Farmers must win this stand against world governments. No mention on the New Zealand news about any of the protests as usual.
Just remember the French don't ask permission to bring a tractor.
First thing to do when you hear the Manure tractors trundling through your Welsh streets is to immediately shut your doors and windows very tightly
God bless our British farmers. 🙏❤️ When my small business got attacked and destroyed I took a low paid job in the school canteen. The Council used to import potatoes from Europe. These potatoes were so old they were sprouting. If I were in Government I would be supporting our British Farmers. Currently I feel our Governments could not care less about our children or our farmers!
God bless the farmers the truckers and freedom fighters everywhere. 🙏🏻❤️🥂
They voted for Brexit, this is what they get
Farmers are essential but they are always crying poverty with two Range Rovers in the drive. They brought on the BSE crisis themselves because they were feeding their cows ground up bones etc. They were of course subsidised by the government. All the butcher shops that went out of business because of their negligence were not subsidised.
I used to deliver bulk animal feeds direct to farms from various mills. Was always a constant source of fascination that a cows diet included Mars bars, Polo mints and ready salted crisps mixed in with goodness knows what else. All entirely natural and organic according to some of the farmers. 😂
@@howarddavies6685 that is a whole lot of rubbish. I don’t believe a word of what you’re spouting here.
@@teamev1976You've never done dairy farming have ya.
@@teamev1976 you are entitled to your opinion of course. But just ask yourself what is more likely: that a producer would discard a batch of product (badly aligned labels or similarly trivial defects) or that they would sell them on for animal feed? I have seen it with my own eyes.
@@czarkusa2018 i am a farmers daughter brought up on a dairy farm. Do not presume you know anything. .
I fully support farmers around the world
Farmers are not public employees like teachers, NHS doctors or social workers. Farmers are business owners, they should not come under standardised rules created by government officers who know nothing about the practical elements of farming. They do what they do for three reasons:
- To feed the nation
- To earn a living, meagre though it often is for hill farmers in parts of Wales
- To care for their land and livestock, the foundation of their farms and, if government policy doesn't put them off, to hand a thriving farm to their children.
What is the point in all this environmental policy of the farms die
and, as a result, the people starve. Who will be here to enjoy it? Shall we just import everything, fly it in and add a poop load of carbon to the environment that way, so we can pretend the UK is carbon neutral? What next? Do we need to stop breathing out carbon dioxide too? It is MAD policy!
No politician should have more money than a farmer has ..and no politics should even be aloud near a field .
Only CH4 could come up with 'Farmer's flock' what a fvcking insult
People do not take the money. Fight for fair trade!
Usually farmers have two demands.
1 give us more money
2 leave us alone
This time there’s much more to it.
I've never met a poor farmer. Look at their £200,000 tractors and the farmers voted in favor of brexit and now they moan about it making them poorer. Serves them right. NO FREE MONEY HANDOUTS FOR THEM. DAM SCROUNGERS.
@@richardsanders.4624 Youv never met one because the large scale of modern farming prevents small scale farming from being competitive. Now just think, you make it harder for farmers to stay in the game, the problem will be compounded. Only the larger and more successful farms will survive.
@@RuneMod Either you're NOT British and from the UK or don't have an actual clue and are just flapping your gums. I've met lots of farmers here in the UK and we DON'T have American style conglomerate farming practices that sell GM seeds that have to be brought from one company like Monsanto. Our farmers are free to choose their crops and their seeds or what livestock to produce. Out of the hundreds of thousands of farms Give me THREE EXAMPLES of those LARGE SCALE operations here in the UK. Oh that's right. You can't because they don't exist here and it's just a figment of your imagination.
@@richardsanders.4624 I mean maybe I was just flapping my gums. Hundreds of acres is large in my view, you need a fair bit of expensive machinery to manage all that. I don't entirely disagree with you though, farmers do get alot of subsidies already.
They voted themselves out of the CAP! Welsh Wallies.
So why are the farmers who are still in CAP protesting?
Support all Farmers if you want to eat.
Support our farmers no farmers no food !! The WEF and our government want to control our food. We stand by our farmers !!!