Paladin: iron man Juggernaut: tanky punching man Knight:weapon man Warlock: magic hands man Conjurer: magic weapon man Berserker: strong punching man Warlord: weapon punching man Which one of these classes are you? 👀
I love how Durzas name change went from someone I know since I read the books and knew how deadly he was, to some random guy that we get ZERO info on how strong he really is
It wasn't that the names were changed to be lore accurate but was instead(IIRC) that the importance of class names were unreasonably lowered because they would not exist in-world. I didn't look into it much at all but that's what I got from it. Unbelievable reasoning for changing something as important as a name to something so unimaginative but saying that it was for lore accuracy just feels like dumbing it down a bit too much. Also, for Durcheron it was because "Durza" was grabbed from a book.
honestly, before this incident i thought vetex was a cool chill guy, but now i see him as another roblox dev nerd that gets no bag (factual by his discord description), and that is kinda sad, i mean if he acted slightly different and didnt take some things too seriously and just tryed to be overall more communicative he would've been a much greater dev AND a person, but ig no gf depression is kicking... i js hope he will be fine, cause if you dont count the balance and the class name changes, he's doing some really cool updates for AO and hes also the reason we have AO in the first place
look man I'd act like that too if I was getting ping bombarded, insulted in every way possible and getting called lazy because I didn't update the game that (according to him) destroyed my social life. Vetex is chill if you're chill with him, like any other person. You just saw him mad here lol.
@@absjustabs.9839 brother people were telling him that he should kill himself in mass over him changing the names of fictional classes in a lego game, he could have handled it better sure but damn
A problem i've noticed with Vetex is that he cares about lore way too much, to the point where it affects the gameplay because he'd make the game worse just so that it fits his "lore" Arcane Odyssey feels less like a game and more like Vetex's very fancy novel with map/animation/visuals showcase that just so happens to be playable
How? Prioritizing lore over gameplay is a horrible decision. Lore supposed to be this cool thing that add story to the game. It shouldn't be where you make your game worse because it doesn't fit the story/lore.
@RandomPerson-q9w ya know when a person does that it means he have put his soul into the game and also I think he can maintain balanced gameplay even though he chooses lore over gameplay
How? It won't matter if Vetex put their soul into the game because if the game still receives backlash and criticism from the community, Arcane Odyssey is gonna flop. Also for the second thing, I highly doubt that gonna happen because right now it seems like Vetex does not care about the community's opinion even though there have been many needed changes requested by the community.
@@RandomPerson-q9w Yea vetex needs to also listen to his community's words too ig he lacks on that view but the empire update was good tho except for my builds getting messed up in someways. I hope he can hear his fans out
If I woke up one day to give re-names to the classes, I'd just re-name Oracle to Psionic because Spirit Weapons and Vitality Classes are effectively psychic powers
I've read about a thing in the book "The art of not giving a fuck" Whatever events happen, it's still always your responsibility to react to them. You can't change how a community behaves, but it's still within your capabilities to be genuine and respond to hate in a professional manner.
Man now i happy for leaving the game when i trougth gankers where the ONLY issue. Also he is a litle rigth; some names where inacurate as hell, yet this ones are still too.
My friend was one of the people who "went too far" in the class names incident. He has expressed his regret over the incident, but more importantly a TON of people kept trying to get in touch with him over it. He even got pinged in the JUJUTSU SHENANIGANS DISCORD and asked "hey how did it feel to get banned by vetex?" It's actually ridiculous.
IDEA: make the established names lore accurate, like this is in a fantasy setting vetex could easily just make lore that would make the current names fit.
The only new name I like is "Strong Warrior" and "Fighter". For the other new name, I think Paladin can have "Wizard" as a new name because they usually casting spell just like Wizard. If this is a new name for paladin, we can make "Shadow Wizard" if the user have shadow magic. Knight can have "Guardian" as a new name because Guardian is a protector and this class have high HP so that will make this name fit with this class. Or just keep it's name because it's shorter to spell. Warlock can have "Sorcerer" as a new name because I like that. and from what I search from google, They all use magic and some of them use fist too. Making this name can be use as a new class name for this class And for the Conjurer, I don't know. What do you all think what should be a new name for Conjurer?
@Blue-fg8vt How about change warlord class name to weightlifter? I think this name is quite unique, and this name seem like it matched to the class too. People will like that.
I lost numerous atlantean weapons, siren bows, vindicators, boss weapons, 2 sunken staff, 3 sunken swords on 29th March 2024. (as a warrior aswell) good video, magmurr.
what exactly was the "weapon wipe incident" anyway? I wasn't playing around that time and appeared to have been unaffected by it, what caused weapons to be wiped? did people find another duping glitch that resulted in vetex wiping some players weapons or...?
@@remix2593 there was a change to weapons, so that you cant upgrade them in a blacksmith anymore, as you can still do with armor, so all weapons got sort of "updated" and upgradeable weapons "didnt exist" problem is, any weapon you had equipped when the update happened stayed as it was before due to a bug, so it doesnt exist anymore in inventory = if you unequip it, its lost forever. basically, a while after the update if you unequip any weapon you had on before the update you lose it forever due to a bug, any weapon that wasnt equipped before update was safe
@@remix2593 other guy got it kinda wrong. what happened was that every weapon (i think rare and above) got wiped by accident. however, if they were still equipped in your hotbar you could still use them but they wouldnt exist in your inventory
@@pavlo5551 actually he knows how to distinguish criticism he replied to some people thay just criticized the change and all vetex would say its just a gui text changing. but when it comes to hate hes just straight up gullible of feeding into it and will start insulting back
A reason I dislike the forums: People being racist, using slurs or posting NSFW stuff get banned for a week at most But one dude made a post where he said how displeased he was with the way master Vetex-sama handled the backlash Master Vetex-sama banned him for 2 months because he dared disrespect master Vetex-sama
theres no way. the classes got the minimalist treatment 😭 at least have the classes have better names, like for example when they are awakened Juggernaut -> Immovable Warrior Paladin -> Vigorous Spellcaster Berserker -> Madman Warlock -> Imbued Combatant Warlord -> Tyrant Conjurer -> Versatile Assailant Warrior -> Veteran Duelist Mage -> Senior Sorcerer Savant -> Jack of All Trades Oracle -> Paragon of Vitality Knight -> Guardsman / Warmonger there, these could also just be new names, but in my opinion its better as an awakening name, so as to not make it *too* complicated. this took about 20 minutes to make. might have seemed long, but for a production team like vetex's? good GOD its a miniscule amount of time. also! critiques for bro's attitude as well. good god. if you are tired, and your judgement is impeded, GO TO SLEEP. SHOWER. EAT. do something to take your mind off of it... jeez.. even animators sleep and eat and shower... its a long-term production of a game.. you shouldnt be splurging your rage everywhere. its genuinely unprofessional looking. another note : take the important inputs (like mine, as ideas, not literal implementations), and work with the community lightheartedly without taking them too seriously.. yes they will critique you. but they genuinely will lighten up if you arent just shitting on them with unecessary, ego-filled, rage-induced, sleep deprived responses. take care of yourself and be professional. why are the devs/important people of games, have such shit responses and professionalism? i keep seeing mfs with insane gifts like lifting and making communities, making games and consistently updating them, have the worst social and professional skills to ever touch my eyes, aint that weird?z as always, sick vid magmurr, this 9 minute vid probably took about 2 hours to make, the edits are crisp as hell.
To be honest I totally agree with changing "Warden" to "Oracle". "Warden" does not make me think of vitality at all. Whereas "Oracle" makes sense since vetex is planning to let Vitality builds "manipulate their life force". - I don't think "Warlord" is the best name for a Strength + Weapons build - "Warlock" is even worse as it has nothing to do with Physical unarmed fighting. - "Warrior" is not that bad of a name since a Warrior DOES use weapons but I'm not totally satisfied with it because there isn't a direct link between "Warrior" and weapons. - "Paladin" has nothing to do with Magic. It does have SOMETHING to do with Vitality though since Paladins are knights and they can be quite tanky because of their armor. - "Savant" is a horrible build name because the real meaning of "Savant" is actually the opposite of what the build is about. In this game, a Savant build has stat points allocated across all 4 stats. However, in reality, being a savant means one excels at a particular field but is lacking in others. Other than that, I like the build names "Mage", "Berserker", "Knight", "Conjurer" and "Juggernaut". I think vetex was going in the right direction to decide to change the build names. But the problem is that although his new names' meanings align with the build, it just sounds uncool.
"Paladin" could just be renamed to "Sage" since the term can refer to the supportive counterpart of mages For "Warlock" maybe a term like "Sorcerer" (saw a comment that suggests that as an alternative) or maybe "Elementalist" or "Bender" could work "Savant" could be replaced with "Jungler," in league they're supposed to be the "wild-card" of the team, since savant builds can differ from player to player, the term is somewhat fitting.
Anyways... My opinion about class changes. It could be normal if whoever made the names actually take at least 1 FREAKING DAY TO THINK! Like come on if you want to change names at least say "its placeholder" or provide at least better names that doesnt turn Warlord(even sounds menacing) into Strong Warrior([Insert any brainless Wojak png]). Oracle can be kept but everything else just sounds just bad. I saw some screen shot suggestion of actually good names for classes if change could happen. So basically if class names change were a think i wanted to see something like that: Savant, mage, warrior -> Keep as it is; Warden -> Oracle; Berserk -> Martialist, fighter or can be kept; Knight -> Paladin (I dont like the fact that paladin is mage); Paladin -> Spiritualist, Shaman (Basically anything that involves spirits); Juggernaut -> Monk (For me Monk is best representation of vitality strengh); Conjurer -> Spellsmith; Warlock -> i rather keep because i have 0 clue how you can name it; Warlord -> Brute, Barbarian or just keep him as it is.
i have no idea what truck massacrated vetex head that hard to make these generic boring ahh names, but the thing i know, is that this thing is a true treat to goku
The name changes themselves weren't the main issue. This was "the change that launched 1000 insults". There have been many pointless and bad changes that only benefit the pvp sweats who want all things but size to be nerfed or making it harder to do anything in the game as a whole. This was just the final straw, and people were so tired of it all. I have a friend who is part of the patreon chat. This was brought to them in advanced, the entire chat disagreed with the name changes, and he still went "well, i don't care i'm making the changes anyways". The people who said "vetex doesn't care about his community" had a valid point there. If everyone on his patreon had the minimum support tier, he would be making around 15k in patreon money, and it angers me that he doesn't listen at all to the people PAYING HIM so he can work full time and pay staff. Instead, he's to busy putting in random enemies in the game and not fixing gamebreaking bugs like Warlock not working, spawning in other's ships/ the sky, getting launched into the Dark sea, having people abuse aura health pots to get infinite healing without sickness. what's gonna happen when we hit level 300 eventually? do level 50s have to worry about getting jumped by people who can insta-kill them?! is this the game and community he really wants to build? If he doesn't fix his shit, this game will be doomed to fail because it will be EXTREMELY newbie hostile like Deepwoken. It is barely standing as is, and at this rate, it's gonna crumble.
Honestly, some of them DO make sense, Savant: A person that knows everything in a specific field (Fighting in this case) Warlord: An aggressive, strong fighting that is well respected and loyal (could be drawn to how martial arts teaches respect and discipline) Mage: A wizard, a magician. Conjurer: Although it does not make much sense that they can use weapons, a conjurer is someone imbuing magic into things, or summons stuff. Kinda weird still but I can see a pattern Warrior: A fighter, very often uses weapons. Berkserker: Is more brute strength but still you get the idea, I would not expect martial arts from a berserk however. Just raw power. Own ideas for names: (Keeping some old ones) Savant Warlord Warrior Mage Oracle Knight --> Paladin (a warrior for a god, spiritual warrior) Paladin --> Warlock (As in DnD terms, warlocks get their powers from entities such as demons) Berkserker --> Fighter, brawler or martial artist simply (All three are about fighting, while martial artist sounds a little bare bone, it is what they do. Just as mages. Problem is that using weapons is ALSO considered martial arts.) Juggernaut --> Monk (A spiritual fighter, almost always knows martial arts for their lessons in discipline and focus) Conjurer --> Arc knight (Short for arcane knight) Warlock --> Gish (AGAIN DnD saved me. A person using magic and martial arts.) Sounds lame however :( I took around 30 minutes to think about them and most of them were from inspiration from DnD because they have a lot of experience with naming specific things in a magical world. I understand why Vetex does not want to think of new names. it is really hard with the limited words we have for magical terms. Hopefully some of these could help though.
I already made an essay in the Wikia and in the comments, and I'll say it again: Juggernaut is accurate because it's a tanky Berserker with zero chill (Depending on your playstyle and your progress in-game, this does not apply to ALL Juggernauts out there, assuming there are chill ones like chill Knights). Warlock is accurate as in real life. They are the "We do not use staves like the old wizard gangs." Fisting with magic is a thing, and can be applied in most fantasy, depending on its lore and worldbuilding. The difference between a Mage and a Warlock is that Mages adhere to rules and spells, while Warlocks go do whatever they want. They can spam beam and still fist you alive. Knight is Knight. I WAS TOLD TO USE THE EXILED FOR THE KNIGHT MASCOT. IT'S ONLY ACCURATE THAT HE IS THE MASS FOUNDER OF KNIGHTHOOD or something... should he be mentioned again. Warlord is more fearsome than Berserker and Warrior alike. Keep in mind that this is for literal war people, those who put themselves in the frontlines alongside other Warriors. If this changed, then this is not Argos-approved, and Olympus help thee if the civil wars destroy Robloxia. I came from Vesteria whenever I hear the word "Paladin". But if Paladins will be massively insane with future Spirit Weapons and Magic, then they are one step closer to absolute equilibrium (But not like Savants, definitions of literally bridging the material and spiritual realms, again, based on playstyle). There is "Shaman" for a similar build, but Paladins are closer to the Gods than Mages are... second to Oracles. Conjurer is a debate somehow. This sounds like a summoner class (Probably because I came from a different game like World Zero). If you mean the Shape modifier, then that is Conjurer stuff. But until we have Arcanium lore and why it's affiliated to Conjurers, I'm not sure how to defend this. I'm full-time Savant, and part-time Conjurer. *_And I don't wanna see the sacred Savant get modified. It's rare to legit find a literal class named "Savant" in video games._* 8:46 - On that day, after I unequipped my only Sunken Sword... I blew up Sameria in rage. I was gonna test the skill swap, but it's gone. Now I got 2 Sunken Warrior Helms... and I'm not feeling the same thing without my Sunken Sword.
absolutely NOOONE cared about the names and they are actually badass like "Warlord!" or "Conjurer" and etc but THERE ARE SO MANY SHITTY GLITCHES that makes this game a PAIN and i have 450 hours in this game i kinda quit i barely play when he updates it which is sooo often 💀and like he could fix allat stuff or add new stuff to the game but he decides to just change names??
I was there and welp The idea was good cuz vetex wanted to make things understandable for new playrs but the execution was poor He should've slapped it as a part or a bigger update for excample as one of things addet in full release so pepole would get it at the same time as some good stuff so they wouldn't complain as much and also like who cares everyone woould've kept using the old names anyway lol
The idea was still poor. His attempt at simplfying names only created more confusion. I do think some names should be changed like conjourer, they dont conjure anything, but frankly its better to add in a built in guide or npcs that explain stuff. Or if you don't want that, trust in players to figure that stuff on their own.
@Blue-fg8vt the idea was good cuz it was to allow pepole to have easier time learning what classes do Thr problem was that vetex came up with the lamest way to do your idea is better like there can be an npc in redwake, cirrus island or palo that explains stuff
it started with warden changing name to oracle, it should of stayed as warden, thats a much cooler name, oracle seems like some sort of old decrepit enchanter while warden seems more combat focused, which is what ALL the stat builds are, combat focused.
The game is still for 13+ No matter if u change the mage to a magic fighter you still gonna have people over 13 playing saying wth is this and prob quit when they find out every name made for little kids Tbh I hope vetex made this as a prank if not I’m srsly quitting bc I don’t wanna fight a weapon magic user with my strong warrior build
im ngl, if the community went too far it was bcs of vetex previous actions towards the community, the community dont respect him anymore for the way he treated them, and the things he said when the class names incident started aint gonna help him
He said the word individual, and you can see two gentlemen on the bottom of the humorous meme who also fit under the term "individual" thus giving a connection to the discussion
imo the class names should be changed into this Paladin - Spirit Mage Juggerrnaut - Spirit Fighter Knight - Spirit Warrior Warlock- Arcane Fighter Conjurer - Arcane Warrior Berserker - Fighter Warlord - Berserker tbf id rather choose to stick with the og class names. Doe vetex should had only change berserker and warlord name cuz those doesnt fit the classes themselves. Berserker in AO only uses fighting styles but doesnt use any weapons which doesnt fit the name itself cuz berserkers are known for using large weapons cuz of their strength and that should have been warlord's class name instead. And warlord should be removed as a class name cuz it already existed as a title in the most wanted crim leaderboard, it might cause confusion among the players
I can imagine Vetex with the Arcane Chronicles in his hand looking like that one Vegeta reading meme while making these lore accurate class names up
lore strength ahh
Read your bible! (KJV, preferably) ❤️
Imagine naming savant into "multi-tasking warden"
LOL
Read your bible! (KJV, preferably) ❤️
multi-tasker mage is more accurate
Peak arcane odyssey economy edition
“Strong magic fighting oracle warrior”
I genuinely thought the new class names were placeholder names for the classes before he came out with better names
Read your bible! (KJV, preferably) ❤️
It wasnt. Tech was just covering him up.
vetex when he finds out youre supposed to listen to the people who support you and make you money
you can express your displeasure of something without insulting or being a dick to the head developer btw
God knew he would be too powerful if he knew
Passion, not just profit.
Paladin: iron man
Juggernaut: tanky punching man
Knight:weapon man
Warlock: magic hands man
Conjurer: magic weapon man
Berserker: strong punching man
Warlord: weapon punching man
Which one of these classes are you? 👀
you forgot magical magic having man
I am Iron man.
What about the full builds and savants
healthy mage (paladin)
Magic hands man fr
im ngl the community when INSaNELY too far LMAO mfs claiming no wonder he's single / his family doesn't talk to him it was fucking crazy lmao
They might be onto something
I see where you are coming from, But I doubt the people could have changed anything had they simply tried being polite
They might be onto something
They might be onto something
Dawg what
I love how Durzas name change went from someone I know since I read the books and knew how deadly he was, to some random guy that we get ZERO info on how strong he really is
Acheron was i remember right a lake of forgetting.
@ kind of ironic, lake of forgetting , when i can never remember his name
@DrunkJarJar according to greek mythology it's a lake where the dead have to drink from in order to forget their past life and reborn
@@DrunkJarJar actually i misremembered acheron was actually river of sorrow.
It wasn't that the names were changed to be lore accurate but was instead(IIRC) that the importance of class names were unreasonably lowered because they would not exist in-world. I didn't look into it much at all but that's what I got from it. Unbelievable reasoning for changing something as important as a name to something so unimaginative but saying that it was for lore accuracy just feels like dumbing it down a bit too much.
Also, for Durcheron it was because "Durza" was grabbed from a book.
honestly, before this incident i thought vetex was a cool chill guy, but now i see him as another roblox dev nerd that gets no bag (factual by his discord description), and that is kinda sad, i mean if he acted slightly different and didnt take some things too seriously and just tryed to be overall more communicative he would've been a much greater dev AND a person, but ig no gf depression is kicking... i js hope he will be fine, cause if you dont count the balance and the class name changes, he's doing some really cool updates for AO and hes also the reason we have AO in the first place
True
look man I'd act like that too if I was getting ping bombarded, insulted in every way possible and getting called lazy because I didn't update the game that (according to him) destroyed my social life. Vetex is chill if you're chill with him, like any other person. You just saw him mad here lol.
@@cassiovieira2939Nah Vetex was just being lame here. No excuse for acting so childish.
@@cassiovieira2939true tbh
@@absjustabs.9839 brother people were telling him that he should kill himself in mass over him changing the names of fictional classes in a lego game, he could have handled it better sure but damn
RIP to that one guy who got banned by Vetex himself for calling him lazy. "Another ignorant child being a loud vocal minority again." 💀
tech is honestly the best human being in all of AO
He literally has no enemies
I find it very funny how VETEX SAID classes DO NOT EXIST in lore, the he changes class names to be LORE ACCURATE
5:30 is getting you banned bro...
A problem i've noticed with Vetex is that he cares about lore way too much, to the point where it affects the gameplay because he'd make the game worse just so that it fits his "lore"
Arcane Odyssey feels less like a game and more like Vetex's very fancy novel with map/animation/visuals showcase that just so happens to be playable
That's what I love about his game
How? Prioritizing lore over gameplay is a horrible decision. Lore supposed to be this cool thing that add story to the game. It shouldn't be where you make your game worse because it doesn't fit the story/lore.
@RandomPerson-q9w ya know when a person does that it means he have put his soul into the game and also I think he can maintain balanced gameplay even though he chooses lore over gameplay
How? It won't matter if Vetex put their soul into the game because if the game still receives backlash and criticism from the community, Arcane Odyssey is gonna flop. Also for the second thing, I highly doubt that gonna happen because right now it seems like Vetex does not care about the community's opinion even though there have been many needed changes requested by the community.
@@RandomPerson-q9w Yea vetex needs to also listen to his community's words too ig he lacks on that view but the empire update was good tho except for my builds getting messed up in someways. I hope he can hear his fans out
If I woke up one day to give re-names to the classes, I'd just re-name Oracle to Psionic because Spirit Weapons and Vitality Classes are effectively psychic powers
Don't know how you arrived at that conclusion, there is nothing even remotely referencing psychic abilities aside from the name.
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Bro is higher than heaven
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"Why should i be professional to people who insult me" has he never worked in retail 💀💀
damn i was so excited to refer to myself as day one fighting mage, peak naming.
I've read about a thing in the book "The art of not giving a fuck"
Whatever events happen, it's still always your responsibility to react to them. You can't change how a community behaves, but it's still within your capabilities to be genuine and respond to hate in a professional manner.
Strong Warrior has been living in my brain rent-free ever since that incident
Man now i happy for leaving the game when i trougth gankers where the ONLY issue. Also he is a litle rigth; some names where inacurate as hell, yet this ones are still too.
My friend was one of the people who "went too far" in the class names incident. He has expressed his regret over the incident, but more importantly a TON of people kept trying to get in touch with him over it. He even got pinged in the JUJUTSU SHENANIGANS DISCORD and asked "hey how did it feel to get banned by vetex?" It's actually ridiculous.
i thought this was a joke, a part of me still thinks so. It just a felt a little too absurd to be real, but uh, thats crazy
according to tech they were just placeholder names, probably to test if he could even change the names without wiping everyone's saves and whatnot
@@bigdued7039 oh
Still waiting for that QnA tech talked about 🔥
We hear you! 🔥🔥
@@MQrko13 littrally asked him when it comes
@@Madaseter never 🔥🔥🔥🔥
"soon" (never)
@@MQrko13bro must have no ears
Fun fact tech level 80 said that they were placeholders in the question channels
ah yes cant wait to name my file "stronk warrior" , he will truly have an arcane odyssey in this world of magic through his arcane adventure....
Magmurrr is a really chill guy
This is the DLC Incident nobody wanted, but Vetex made it happen.
IDEA: make the established names lore accurate, like this is in a fantasy setting vetex could easily just make lore that would make the current names fit.
The only new name I like is "Strong Warrior" and "Fighter".
For the other new name, I think
Paladin can have "Wizard" as a new name because they usually casting spell just like Wizard. If this is a new name for paladin, we can make "Shadow Wizard" if the user have shadow magic.
Knight can have "Guardian" as a new name because Guardian is a protector and this class have high HP so that will make this name fit with this class. Or just keep it's name because it's shorter to spell.
Warlock can have "Sorcerer" as a new name because I like that. and from what I search from google, They all use magic and some of them use fist too. Making this name can be use as a new class name for this class
And for the Conjurer, I don't know.
What do you all think what should be a new name for Conjurer?
Enchanter is a no brain.
I dislike strong warrior, as we still have warrior. Its more confusing than before, and makes both less unique.
@Blue-fg8vt How about change warlord class name to weightlifter? I think this name is quite unique, and this name seem like it matched to the class too. People will like that.
@@arcademunmue conjurer should be enchanter
@@AragoTina Cool
I lost numerous atlantean weapons, siren bows, vindicators, boss weapons, 2 sunken staff, 3 sunken swords on 29th March 2024. (as a warrior aswell)
good video, magmurr.
what exactly was the "weapon wipe incident" anyway? I wasn't playing around that time and appeared to have been unaffected by it, what caused weapons to be wiped? did people find another duping glitch that resulted in vetex wiping some players weapons or...?
@@remix2593 there was a change to weapons, so that you cant upgrade them in a blacksmith anymore, as you can still do with armor, so all weapons got sort of "updated" and upgradeable weapons "didnt exist"
problem is, any weapon you had equipped when the update happened stayed as it was before due to a bug, so it doesnt exist anymore in inventory = if you unequip it, its lost forever.
basically, a while after the update if you unequip any weapon you had on before the update you lose it forever due to a bug, any weapon that wasnt equipped before update was safe
@@remix2593 other guy got it kinda wrong. what happened was that every weapon (i think rare and above) got wiped by accident. however, if they were still equipped in your hotbar you could still use them but they wouldnt exist in your inventory
Conjurer being renamed to whatever the f you just said would be fire ngl
wait... he didnt plan to change warrior name, so that means warlords wouldve been called 'strong warriors' and warriors wouldve stayed warriors, wtf
Even more confusing when you add that there's strong enchant in-game
This was funny as fuck. I wasn't expecting that from an Arcane Odyssey youtuber
durza MIGHT weep for the departed 🤤🤤🐱👤🐱👤🐱
I still cant forget this shit from the AO server, especially the "hydrated warior" joke
when the world needed him most, the goat came back oiled up and ready
I hope Vetex brought an umbrella because am "Cry Harder"
5:36 i remember this 😂 two people in a game i dont know why i joined☠️, fish emote...
During that incident i really expected some hacker get into his dms and find unholy messages to minors.
we need more techlevel appreciation
remember guys, no negative opinions is allowed even if they're told nicely
You are telling me the same guy who recreated slavery on roblox tried to do THIS!?
"I figured people would be mature enough to at least see the reasoning" yea like people who play Roblox are mature
vetex has an anger issue comparable to a drunk dad
if u think that’s having anger issues u need to grow a backbone
I don't think it's anger issue. Vetex simply cannot see the difference between hate and criticism, and/or takes it too personally
@@pavlo5551tbh community makes it hard to distinguish💀
@@pavlo5551 actually he knows how to distinguish criticism he replied to some people thay just criticized the change and all vetex would say its just a gui text changing. but when it comes to hate hes just straight up gullible of feeding into it and will start insulting back
I remember i read the whole Arcane Chronicals when i got it first time. I took me 20 minutes
A reason I dislike the forums:
People being racist, using slurs or posting NSFW stuff get banned for a week at most
But one dude made a post where he said how displeased he was with the way master Vetex-sama handled the backlash
Master Vetex-sama banned him for 2 months because he dared disrespect master Vetex-sama
BRO I LEAVE FOR 1 DAY AND THIS SHI HAPPENS 😭
As a funny tidbit of information it was said that the names he picked were just placeholders for now until he had better names to put
theres no way. the classes got the minimalist treatment 😭
at least have the classes have better names, like for example when they are awakened
Juggernaut -> Immovable Warrior
Paladin -> Vigorous Spellcaster
Berserker -> Madman
Warlock -> Imbued Combatant
Warlord -> Tyrant
Conjurer -> Versatile Assailant
Warrior -> Veteran Duelist
Mage -> Senior Sorcerer
Savant -> Jack of All Trades
Oracle -> Paragon of Vitality
Knight -> Guardsman / Warmonger
there, these could also just be new names, but in my opinion its better as an awakening name, so as to not make it *too* complicated.
this took about 20 minutes to make. might have seemed long, but for a production team like vetex's? good GOD its a miniscule amount of time.
also! critiques for bro's attitude as well.
good god. if you are tired, and your judgement is impeded, GO TO SLEEP. SHOWER. EAT. do something to take your mind off of it... jeez.. even animators sleep and eat and shower... its a long-term production of a game.. you shouldnt be splurging your rage everywhere. its genuinely unprofessional looking.
another note : take the important inputs (like mine, as ideas, not literal implementations), and work with the community lightheartedly without taking them too seriously.. yes they will critique you. but they genuinely will lighten up if you arent just shitting on them with unecessary, ego-filled, rage-induced, sleep deprived responses. take care of yourself and be professional.
why are the devs/important people of games, have such shit responses and professionalism?
i keep seeing mfs with insane gifts like lifting and making communities, making games and consistently updating them, have the worst social and professional skills to ever touch my eyes, aint that weird?z
as always, sick vid magmurr, this 9 minute vid probably took about 2 hours to make, the edits are crisp as hell.
4:21 "the old name didn't make sense and ive always hated them" then why did bro use them in the first place 😭
please save me, i refuse to identify as a "weapon mage" 😭
Maybe hes adding a class rank up so hes making bad names for the pre stuff and putting all the normal names as advanced classes?
The backround song choice is crazy doe
To be honest I totally agree with changing "Warden" to "Oracle". "Warden" does not make me think of vitality at all. Whereas "Oracle" makes sense since vetex is planning to let Vitality builds "manipulate their life force".
- I don't think "Warlord" is the best name for a Strength + Weapons build
- "Warlock" is even worse as it has nothing to do with Physical unarmed fighting.
- "Warrior" is not that bad of a name since a Warrior DOES use weapons but I'm not totally satisfied with it because there isn't a direct link between "Warrior" and weapons.
- "Paladin" has nothing to do with Magic. It does have SOMETHING to do with Vitality though since Paladins are knights and they can be quite tanky because of their armor.
- "Savant" is a horrible build name because the real meaning of "Savant" is actually the opposite of what the build is about. In this game, a Savant build has stat points allocated across all 4 stats. However, in reality, being a savant means one excels at a particular field but is lacking in others.
Other than that, I like the build names "Mage", "Berserker", "Knight", "Conjurer" and "Juggernaut".
I think vetex was going in the right direction to decide to change the build names. But the problem is that although his new names' meanings align with the build, it just sounds uncool.
"Paladin" could just be renamed to "Sage" since the term can refer to the supportive counterpart of mages
For "Warlock" maybe a term like "Sorcerer" (saw a comment that suggests that as an alternative) or maybe "Elementalist" or "Bender" could work
"Savant" could be replaced with "Jungler," in league they're supposed to be the "wild-card" of the team, since savant builds can differ from player to player, the term is somewhat fitting.
what do yall think of Martial Artist instead of Berserker
such real names that would have definitely been implemented
Idc about the name changes people are used to the old names and probably would still called the clases the original name after the name revamp
as you can see vetex is very good at dealing with criticism
strong warrior is wild bro 😭wheres the weak warrior
We should all just go to deepwoken at this point and have our odyssey be arcanely woken in the deep
“If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it”
ngl Vetex would very much definitely be a more authoritarian politician if he was one
In the patch notes they say they are almost done with skyhall story so why not drop that as an update and not deprive us for 7 months
Any more updates and metapoly is going to make us hit for 10 damagr with 5 second endlag.
Sounds like you expect vetex to do something that makes dense?
Anyways...
My opinion about class changes.
It could be normal if whoever made the names actually take at least 1 FREAKING DAY TO THINK! Like come on if you want to change names at least say "its placeholder" or provide at least better names that doesnt turn Warlord(even sounds menacing) into Strong Warrior([Insert any brainless Wojak png]).
Oracle can be kept but everything else just sounds just bad. I saw some screen shot suggestion of actually good names for classes if change could happen.
So basically if class names change were a think i wanted to see something like that:
Savant, mage, warrior -> Keep as it is;
Warden -> Oracle;
Berserk -> Martialist, fighter or can be kept;
Knight -> Paladin (I dont like the fact that paladin is mage);
Paladin -> Spiritualist, Shaman (Basically anything that involves spirits);
Juggernaut -> Monk (For me Monk is best representation of vitality strengh);
Conjurer -> Spellsmith;
Warlock -> i rather keep because i have 0 clue how you can name it;
Warlord -> Brute, Barbarian or just keep him as it is.
I feel like vetex should just be muted and let tech be the voice and main head and vetex being the basement dweller code gooner.
Foot of iron
Hand of water
Punching sport
Basic combat
Canon ball thrower
Conjurer could be called Enchanter.
That makes sense and fits the class more than the original name
You enhance the weapons with magic not conjure them
@@khaledx735 enchant not enhance, enchant mean to put magic into something, enhance mean to make something stronger
conjurer is basically just a magic swordsman.... magic swordsman is good name i think.
i have no idea what truck massacrated vetex head that hard to make these generic boring ahh names, but the thing i know, is that this thing is a true treat to goku
The name changes themselves weren't the main issue. This was "the change that launched 1000 insults". There have been many pointless and bad changes that only benefit the pvp sweats who want all things but size to be nerfed or making it harder to do anything in the game as a whole. This was just the final straw, and people were so tired of it all.
I have a friend who is part of the patreon chat. This was brought to them in advanced, the entire chat disagreed with the name changes, and he still went "well, i don't care i'm making the changes anyways". The people who said "vetex doesn't care about his community" had a valid point there.
If everyone on his patreon had the minimum support tier, he would be making around 15k in patreon money, and it angers me that he doesn't listen at all to the people PAYING HIM so he can work full time and pay staff. Instead, he's to busy putting in random enemies in the game and not fixing gamebreaking bugs like Warlock not working, spawning in other's ships/ the sky, getting launched into the Dark sea, having people abuse aura health pots to get infinite healing without sickness.
what's gonna happen when we hit level 300 eventually? do level 50s have to worry about getting jumped by people who can insta-kill them?! is this the game and community he really wants to build?
If he doesn't fix his shit, this game will be doomed to fail because it will be EXTREMELY newbie hostile like Deepwoken. It is barely standing as is, and at this rate, it's gonna crumble.
Honestly, some of them DO make sense,
Savant: A person that knows everything in a specific field (Fighting in this case)
Warlord: An aggressive, strong fighting that is well respected and loyal (could be drawn to how martial arts teaches respect and discipline)
Mage: A wizard, a magician.
Conjurer: Although it does not make much sense that they can use weapons, a conjurer is someone imbuing magic into things, or summons stuff. Kinda weird still but I can see a pattern
Warrior: A fighter, very often uses weapons.
Berkserker: Is more brute strength but still you get the idea, I would not expect martial arts from a berserk however. Just raw power.
Own ideas for names:
(Keeping some old ones)
Savant
Warlord
Warrior
Mage
Oracle
Knight --> Paladin (a warrior for a god, spiritual warrior)
Paladin --> Warlock (As in DnD terms, warlocks get their powers from entities such as demons)
Berkserker --> Fighter, brawler or martial artist simply (All three are about fighting, while martial artist sounds a little bare bone, it is what they do. Just as mages. Problem is that using weapons is ALSO considered martial arts.)
Juggernaut --> Monk (A spiritual fighter, almost always knows martial arts for their lessons in discipline and focus)
Conjurer --> Arc knight (Short for arcane knight)
Warlock --> Gish (AGAIN DnD saved me. A person using magic and martial arts.) Sounds lame however :(
I took around 30 minutes to think about them and most of them were from inspiration from DnD because they have a lot of experience with naming specific things in a magical world.
I understand why Vetex does not want to think of new names. it is really hard with the limited words we have for magical terms. Hopefully some of these could help though.
magmurrr is the real professional 😤
I already made an essay in the Wikia and in the comments, and I'll say it again:
Juggernaut is accurate because it's a tanky Berserker with zero chill (Depending on your playstyle and your progress in-game, this does not apply to ALL Juggernauts out there, assuming there are chill ones like chill Knights).
Warlock is accurate as in real life. They are the "We do not use staves like the old wizard gangs." Fisting with magic is a thing, and can be applied in most fantasy, depending on its lore and worldbuilding. The difference between a Mage and a Warlock is that Mages adhere to rules and spells, while Warlocks go do whatever they want. They can spam beam and still fist you alive.
Knight is Knight. I WAS TOLD TO USE THE EXILED FOR THE KNIGHT MASCOT. IT'S ONLY ACCURATE THAT HE IS THE MASS FOUNDER OF KNIGHTHOOD or something... should he be mentioned again.
Warlord is more fearsome than Berserker and Warrior alike. Keep in mind that this is for literal war people, those who put themselves in the frontlines alongside other Warriors. If this changed, then this is not Argos-approved, and Olympus help thee if the civil wars destroy Robloxia.
I came from Vesteria whenever I hear the word "Paladin". But if Paladins will be massively insane with future Spirit Weapons and Magic, then they are one step closer to absolute equilibrium (But not like Savants, definitions of literally bridging the material and spiritual realms, again, based on playstyle). There is "Shaman" for a similar build, but Paladins are closer to the Gods than Mages are... second to Oracles.
Conjurer is a debate somehow. This sounds like a summoner class (Probably because I came from a different game like World Zero). If you mean the Shape modifier, then that is Conjurer stuff. But until we have Arcanium lore and why it's affiliated to Conjurers, I'm not sure how to defend this. I'm full-time Savant, and part-time Conjurer.
*_And I don't wanna see the sacred Savant get modified. It's rare to legit find a literal class named "Savant" in video games._*
8:46 - On that day, after I unequipped my only Sunken Sword... I blew up Sameria in rage. I was gonna test the skill swap, but it's gone. Now I got 2 Sunken Warrior Helms... and I'm not feeling the same thing without my Sunken Sword.
absolutely NOOONE cared about the names and they are actually badass like "Warlord!" or "Conjurer" and etc but THERE ARE SO MANY SHITTY GLITCHES that makes this game a PAIN and i have 450 hours in this game i kinda quit i barely play when he updates it which is sooo often 💀and like he could fix allat stuff or add new stuff to the game but he decides to just change names??
the gamepasses and the global messages are paying his bills and he is being toxic to his community big L
I'm so lucky I missed the weapon wipe incident by a week.
i think this controversy can be summed up with two words......who cares
outside of conjurer warlock and paladin i dont see why you'd change the names (these 3 class names really dont make sense)
I was there and welp
The idea was good cuz vetex wanted to make things understandable for new playrs but the execution was poor
He should've slapped it as a part or a bigger update for excample as one of things addet in full release so pepole would get it at the same time as some good stuff so they wouldn't complain as much
and also like who cares everyone woould've kept using the old names anyway lol
The idea was still poor. His attempt at simplfying names only created more confusion. I do think some names should be changed like conjourer, they dont conjure anything, but frankly its better to add in a built in guide or npcs that explain stuff. Or if you don't want that, trust in players to figure that stuff on their own.
@Blue-fg8vt the idea was good cuz it was to allow pepole to have easier time learning what classes do
Thr problem was that vetex came up with the lamest way to do
your idea is better like there can be an npc in redwake, cirrus island or palo that explains stuff
This video editing is dopamine hellmine
Techlevel the GOAT 🗣🔥🔥🔥
It's going to be just like with Twitter which is supposed to be named X but nobody gives a shit and calls it Twitter anyway
it started with warden changing name to oracle, it should of stayed as warden, thats a much cooler name, oracle seems like some sort of old decrepit enchanter while warden seems more combat focused, which is what ALL the stat builds are, combat focused.
The game is still for 13+ No matter if u change the mage to a magic fighter you still gonna have people over 13 playing saying wth is this and prob quit when they find out every name made for little kids
Tbh I hope vetex made this as a prank if not I’m srsly quitting bc I don’t wanna fight a weapon magic user with my strong warrior build
im ngl, if the community went too far it was bcs of vetex previous actions towards the community, the community dont respect him anymore for the way he treated them, and the things he said when the class names incident started aint gonna help him
what did he do?
bro cant differentiate criticism and insults
Damn didnt know vetcord had sm1 like tech
05:17 IS WILD BRO
6:11 how is this image related to the conversation at all 😭
the power of imagination
He said the word individual, and you can see two gentlemen on the bottom of the humorous meme who also fit under the term "individual" thus giving a connection to the discussion
@@Magmurrrfrrrr
who tf is acheron cuh
vetex b doin anything but a day's worth of work
Vetex needs a PR team asap
Conjurer to spellblade would make sense
For realism and technicality:
MAGE: Chaos Weaver
WARRIOR: Weapons Specialist or Knight
BERSERKER: Martial Maestro or Martial Master
WARLORD: Combatant
SAVANT: Combat Savant
CONJURER: Arcane Weapons Specialist or Arcane Knight
WARLOCK: Mystic Brawler or Arcane Brawler
KNIGHT: Spiritual Duelist
PALADIN: Magus
JUGGERNAUT: Spirit Brawler or Spiritual Brawler
ORACLE: Soul Weaver
Strong warrior is better than normal warrior
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Gave up playing vertex's games when he stopped development on adventure story
im the guy he replied to when he said cry harder 😭
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imo the class names should be changed into this
Paladin - Spirit Mage
Juggerrnaut - Spirit Fighter
Knight - Spirit Warrior
Warlock- Arcane Fighter
Conjurer - Arcane Warrior
Berserker - Fighter
Warlord - Berserker
tbf id rather choose to stick with the og class names. Doe vetex should had only change berserker and warlord name cuz those doesnt fit the classes themselves. Berserker in AO only uses fighting styles but doesnt use any weapons which doesnt fit the name itself cuz berserkers are known for using large weapons cuz of their strength and that should have been warlord's class name instead. And warlord should be removed as a class name cuz it already existed as a title in the most wanted crim leaderboard, it might cause confusion among the players
this would be a good update for April fools...
WHY.
my name is already as low-tier as it gets you can't do nothing
Not gonna lie. Its not that bad, but its bad enough for me to laugh my ass off reading the names💀