Tom Pelissero on Whether Deshaun Watson & Browns Can Salvage Their Season | The Rich Eisen Show
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- Rich Eisen Show guest host Tom Pelissero and the guys debate if it’s time for the Cleveland Browns to move on from struggling QB Deshaun Watson.
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Problem is you’re judging small samples to decide Watson isn’t a problem. Look at his entire body of work. He is bad. Mentally and physically. This is literally sympathy for the devil stuff lol…
I thought everyone agreed Watson is the problem. Flacco lit it up. Watson can't. Not hard to see
Careful - Watson asking people to look at his whole body was the start of this whole thing 😀
They don’t watch the tape
@@WhiteCheddar. Flacco didn't have chubb either, as well. So pointing to chubb not being there as an excuse is a non-starter.
@@henlo1910 And the argument that Watsons line is unhealthy isn't valid either. Flacco dealt with multiple injuries to his offensive line and lacked the benefit of being in this system. Dude was on his couch waiting for a phone call. Watson looks like he's physically fat backed with pain out there, he is not physically there it feels to me. Definitely doesn't have the maneuverability in the pocket we saw in Houston.
I can’t imagine being a human being with all five of their senses, and still having anything positive to say about Watson without being paid to do so
Very well put 😂
Then stop imagining and watch some actual film.
Cuz anyone with a football sense of mind can see the issues are fixable.
100%
@@AceSolomon94 damn. I didn’t know there were people like you with football minds. Should I listen to the life changing podcast I’m sure you’re currently hosting, or just save time by watching muted TH-camr apology videos overlayed with the sounds of people farting
Nothing about Deshaun Watson playing football is fixable, he’s BAD. I’d rather have Jacoby Brisett than him, and I’m a patriots fan that just suffered through 5 games of quite possibly the worst football imaginable.
Flacco at the Browns last year was cheap, successful and embraced by the fans. He wanted to go back to the Browns but they once again, let a QB go who had actual success. They are genuinely the stupidest franchise I have ever witnessed and the level of karma they are receiving is perfect.
To be fair, he may have cost more to re sign and they do have Jameis Winston. Flacco may be better but I think Winston could get similar results.
Deshaun ranks 32nd in qbr and yards per attempt, 29th in passer rating, and 29th in completion percentage. Meanwhile baker leads the nfl with 13 tds and only 2 picks, flacco looks great too. Cut watson, fire berry.
What weapons does baker have compared to Watson plus his line.
@@teonsmith1209the browns would have weapons with the picks they traded for Watson.
@@Krose8266 No they would not bro. Now you’re cappin 🤣🤣. Browns wouldn’t have been picking high enough. What weapons have you seen that has come out in the past drafts? The late round picks
@@teonsmith1209 deshaun is nor on bakers level bro, deshaun is a bottom tier qb. Stats say he is the worst qb over last 3 seasons. Just accept it. Everyone else has.
@@teonsmith1209Brian Thomas junior
I just want to thank the browns for helping us out of the dark times and allowing us to become the franchise we are with so many great players.
Hold your gratitude until you make it to the Super Bowl.
No point in running your mouth if the Browns end up getting to the Super Bowl before the Texans do. 💯
@@AceSolomon94The browns sold their soul for nothing. The texans are a well respected franchise now, the browns are the exact opposite. If this means nothing to you, then you're dead inside.
Amen brother 👌🙏
Cut Watson, and save the Browns. Start Jameis. Maybe have a shitty losing season, but save the possibility of a future. Draft smarter. Have some integrity.
Agreed. Screw the contract and the dead money. Cutting this guy now starts rebuilding credibility and fan goodwill. Take the lumps and learn the lessons.
Yea watson has been awful the last 3 years
They guaranteed his pay til 2027. That includes if he’s at home on the couch. Best believe they’re gonna make him be in that building sweating for it
@@marcusgarcia5089it's 170 million in dead cap if they cut him... That's 60% of the team salary cap next year
He’s under constant duress because he can’t make a decision, stares down one receiver, holds the ball too long and then gets sacked.
What are the chances the Browns go 1-16 and get the #1 pick? > playoff chances easy.
Hard to believe that they end up being worse than the panthers but i could definitely see a top 5 pick
Why does anyone think a #1 QB pick results in instant success? Build a culture, have some integrity and establish credibility, don't hire sexual assaulters... it's not rocket science.
They had a #1 QB pick and kicked him out of town just a few years ago.
I think their pick goes to Houston.....not 100 percent
@@mikegardiner6046 No. The Browns are done giving the Texans any more picks. Now, what they do with those picks are another story. The current GM has been Mid at best. I think he has only 1 or two good picks so far. All the good players on the Browns were picked by the former GM John Dorsey.
Watson is mentally destroyed. The fans have seen it for 5 games, his teammates have seen it since the spring. The team gave up before the season began.
WTF do team front offices pay $250M guaranteed, unless the QB has a ring or 2 on their name. Or even a conference championship.
I'm starting to wonder how deep I should go back into Watsons 2020 4-12 season film. Might've been fools gold.
Look at the schedule, they are not winning anything before the chargers game so will be 1-7 with one game left before their bye week. Might as well just go full tank at this point
Can we stop making excuses for Watson? Those 7 sacks weren't all because of the O line he constantly ran out of a perfectly clean pocket, he doesn't go past his first read, he can't read defenses, he can't make the simple throws or simple decisions. Stefanski has had to dumb down his offense for Watson this is ridiculous he shouldn't be in the league and he should be behind bars. Disgusting excuse for a human being and NFL QB, get your brown bags ready Brownies because Haslam is way too hands on and wont let football people make football decisions.
One hilarious irony of this whole situation: it was the Texans who hurt Baker, then the Browns rewarded them Handily for it😂 "Hey Clowns, we just hurt your quarterback! do you want ours who is sitting out a contract dispute and has 24 sexual assault allegations?? You can have him for a few FIRST round picks!"
Clowns: "Hey that sounds like a steal! Bend us over RIGHT NOW!!"
Stefanski wated to Baker Out and sabotaze last half of The ending season of Baker. Stefanski IS pure shite.
That is water under the bridge. Also, Baker was not throwing the open man. When coach Stefanski would draw up plays there where players wide open over the middle of field especially the tight end and Baker refuse to throw to them.
Finally a reasonable take about the browns
I spoke with the host of the AM radio station for the Texans and asked what was wrong with Watson. His theory was that Deshaun has been worshiped his entire career in Clemson and his early days in Houston. Now he's the heel, the bad guy and he can't handle it mentally. Watson needs the adoration and he ain't getting it and it messes with his mind. It's a theory but as good as I've heard
Substitute Josh Allen for DW, does Allen look as bad as DW? Nope! Watson isn’t reading things as well as he should be and when he does, most of the time his passes are horribly inaccurate! You can tell by his demeanor that his confidence is shot and it’s a ripple throughout the entire offense
Yeah you can point to drops also but as a starting NFL QB you should be able to overcome a drop or 2 a game. He’s just not with it…
@@randyboyce4796more than a drop or two lol. They have the most drops in the league right now with 19 i believe in 5 games…almost 4 a game. And almost all of them were game changing drops
I hate the, they would have had 12 men in the huddle excuse, kick someone out, and run the play. They still had plenty of time, too.
Was halfway between the hash and the numbers at 18 sec. He was already walking away before that point as well. He flat out quite told the coach and the team to go f*ck themselves.
The best thing the browns ever did was change their name, move to baltimore, and win a superbowl.
Watson isn’t playing great, but good lord that OL. There are so many snaps where he had no chance
Is it too soon to tank for the #1 pick?
Andy Reid was coach of the year... Back in 2002. He had deserved it over Kevin easily
I watch Browns games to laugh.
Steelers fans over here smiling at the rest of the AFC North paying 765 million dollars for underachieving quarterbacks 😊
We need to sell every player of value at the deadline for draft picks, bench Watson until the end of his contract while paying him, and hope we can exit a rebuild in the next 5 years. When we went 0-16 at least it was fun to watch at times. This season is just *pathetic*
Don't bother with benching. Just send him on his way. If he makes it onto another team that just helps you when you face them. Actually that's a good strategy for at least 1 game lol.
At least when they went 0-16 you knew it was a rebuild, you knew they had a young QB who was overmatched, and they had a coach that was overmatched. This is a team people to expected to compete in spite of Watsons existence, and right now I can't tell just how far from the bottom they are if not the bottom. I feel bad for those defensive players.
From a Browns' fan perspective, we know the season is over. Too many injuries, no quarterback. They gave away Mayfield, Flacco and Hunt and they're all thriving.
The season is over and unfortunately because of the horrible deal in acquiring Watson they will be out of the playoffs for the next few years
*next few decades
@@prideofalion or until Haslem is gone as owner
This guy doesn't understand the cap
@3:00 this is juedy. All the tome. He would get angry for not getting the ball and when he does he serious am ready catch or qalks off the end zone before a td counted.
Never forget...the falcon won the desean watson sweepstakes but the browns in true browns fashion........well we know the rest
Watson is tired of running around.
Kevin can solve this by throwing Sorsey'a shotgun playstyle into the trash and reverting back to his west coast, quick pass PA offense.
It will help alleviate the pressures from the pass blocking while allowing your big guys up front to play to their strength and push forward instead of back pedaling.
Utilize a 2 TE system with Njoku/Akins while getting the receivers involved with the occasional deep shots followed by PA and quick shots.
Watson excelled at this and so did the offensive line. It's the only shot they have at turning this around.
Cuz All defenders have to do is get home to the QB in shotgun and they turn off the oven.
Hope this happens for them tomorrow in Philly. 💯
Nope. They are already done. They are going to go 1-16. Thanks, Jimmy Haslam.
How close are the browns to hiring a hitman to 'take care of' Deshaun?. Doubt he would be missed much personally or professionally.
Watson is terrible. At least half the sacks he takes are his own fault.
Less than Zero, until Jimmy Haslam sells the team. Watson is a PR Catastrophe. Watson is an alleged Serial Weirdo.
I started watching NFL football 🏈 n 2032 and Watson has been absolute a$s the entire time I've been watching. I don't understand why this is even a topic for debate 😂
Watson is definitely not the ONLY problem with that team, but to pretend that he isn't a pretty substantial part of the problem is pretty delusional. My Commies just played this team, and that offense is the most uncreative offense anyone has seen at the NFL level. I'm not exagerrating. I could see it, but we have several local commentators who watch a ton of tape, and they were all taken aback by how simple and predictable that unit is. Stefanski does NOTHING to give his players a shot, and I think we have to ask ourselves why that is. Does Stefanski not know offense, or is he deliberately simplifying because his QB isn't studying.
Watson can't throw accurately. He isn't the athletic mismatch he was early in his career. He isn't game managing or learning the offense well enough to execute at better than a high school level. Is he still crazy talented and will complete SOME passes? Yeah. Of course. So was Bryce Young. Simply put, Watson is making BANK regardless of whether he tries hard or not so...why try? He's looting the Browns.
Ultimately, that team won't experience sustained success until Haslam is gone, but I do agree that it's time for that team to realize that they're better off admitting that Watson is killing them, benching him now, and at least giving Stefanski a chance to show whether he deserve to stay with Jameis Winston. You have 11 games left to evaluate Stefanski and the other players on the team. But you can't fairly evaluate them with Watson at QB.
In 2014 (I think...maybe 2015?), Washington started Robert Griffin after an extended injury, and was forced to bench him. When asked about it after the game, HC Jay Gruden called Griffin 'non-functional'. The basic message being that Griffin was SO BAD at running the basic play that it made everything that the other 10 players were trying to do pointless. Every route was on the wrong timing. Griffin was taking the wrong depth drops for the protections. Gruden liked to design plays with zone beaters on one side and man beaters on the other, and Griffin couldn't identify zone vs man, even when it wasn't being disguised, and so worked the wrong side much of the time. Non-functional was a pretty apt description. He was so bad, you can't develop or evaluate anyone else on offense.
I believe Watson is a VERY small step from being non-functional. The only reason I don't think he's quite there, is that Gruden did alot less to simplify for Griffin than Stefanski is doing. If I were Haslam, I'd let Stefanski bench Watson, but we're DEFINITELY not cutting him so he can go and earn more money.