New Pilot CUT UP... by a SPITFIRE
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 28 ก.ย. 2024
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Here's us coming into land back at Kemble airfield after another weather curtailed flight and then seeing this. Still can't really believe it.. especially being only my 3rd flight after getting my licence. Definitely one to remember! Hope you enjoy!
Thanks to Hugh for helping out filming, give him a follow: @F5HPP
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Nice video. Come and say hello to me in Hangar 3, Woodside. I'm the resident engineer for our Spitfires when we operate out of Kemble. Be happy to let you have a closer look. Adam............ PS - Sorry for cutting you up!!!
Woahh we managed to reach all the way over to you! Thank you for your comment and kind invitation!! I'd love to come and have a closer look at some point for sure!! Apology accepted and look forward to meeting you and the bird!! Thanks Adam!
I was once inside an airliner, just another ordinary passenger flight to another ordinary tourist destination. I looked out the window completely at random to see we were a few thousand feet above a pair of Mirages doing air to air refuelling with a tanker. They were flying 90° to our heading and in a blink of an eye we had flown over them. Amazing luck to randomly see that, I bet nobody noticed that but me.
Amazing!! Lucky you got a glimpse of them!
Those old ww2 aircraft will never fail to make me feel so many emotions all at the same time
I think Wolfman said it best in Top Gun during the briefing ;)
I also had a fantastic Spitfire moment when on a solo flight as a student on a very murky day. A Spitfire suddenly appeared and flew past so close I could see the pilots eyes smiling! Unforgetable and a massive privilege 😄
Amazing!! What a memory that is!
WOW I'm Green with envey mate .
I once had a formation of three DC3s arrive overheard the airfield while I was turning base and flew directly over my aircraft as we turned final. What a fantastic sight! They landed shortly after us touching down in formation. This was at Moorabbin Airport in Melbourne, Australia.
Yes what a sight indeed!! Bet that's a logbook entry to never forget
I can't have been the only one that said 'tack-a tack-a tack-a tack-a tack-a' when the Spitfire clearly had you in it's sights.
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That would have been quite a fright, especially if you were a monkey.
Spring Chicken to Shiite Hawk in one easy lesson.
"Don't just think. Don't just glance. Look! Search for the bastards!! And never fly in a straight line or else you're a dead duck! Right, let's try again."
One on don’t tell me that going past you did not give you a thrill
I'd make way for the old girl! We had a Tornado fly under us and it was so loud that we could hear it over our own engine and feel it through the floor - something you don't expect in a light aircraft which are already very noisy.
Blimey that's crazy!! We didn't hear a whisper of this one, let alone feel it. What an experience that must have been!!
Lol i can see why its called a Tornado
Near Allentown , Pennsylvania decades ago Center told me they would put on a little air show for me. I looked where they directed me to and was rewarded with the sight of 4 warbirds in diamond formation going the other way. Oh for a video camera!
Jeeez that would have been amazing!! At least you got the memory of it!
Those are the things you remember and treasure. As a student pilot, I was doing a dual cross country exercise, filed a flight plan through a Restricted area. Under the hood, at 6000 ft, had ATC warn me an F-111 was in the area "operating between zero and 20 000 ft" 😮 . I acknowledged, took the hood off, and he spoke to me direct, asking me to maintain current altitude and heading. I wared him there was another light aircraft in the area I had seen a few minutes earlier, at low altitude, same general heading. I had the thrill of seeing him pass in front of me twice.
As for paying customers, I have 0.25 hr ICUS P-51D, aerobatics, as part of a 50th birthday present to myself, in a dual Mustang that used to fly out of Perth, WA
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Amazing! 2 amazing experiences there that I'm sure will be with you forever, like this will for me! Glad you enjoyed and thanks for the comment!! Happy flying
Those Pig pilots were something else.
On final #1 for 24 at Southend, Radio " if we sit here longer glycol gonna cook!" Offered tower a left hand circuit, accepted, as I regained final two Spitfires rolled, one saying "thanks Lima Whisky" [my C150] I watched in awe as theY took flight. My once and only time in the air together. Memories
I had the same happen to me in the circuit at Lee-on-Solent. We had a lovely view of him banking past us and dropping the undercart at the same time. As i was in the circuit i was able to extend a little so he was off the runway as I called final. Note for your diary. 2nd and 3rd September Compton Abbas has a Spitfire day so if you fly in there you can have a spot of lunch and enjoy the views and Sounds of the Spitfire doing pleasure flights all day.....I have booked out one of their PA28's to fly in the hope of getting a air to air 🙂
Oh amazing! Dates noted! That will be great if you get another look at them from the air again!
That will be the Aero Legends Spitfire NH341 known as Elizabeth. I flew in her from h
Headcorn 2022 with Parky. Still smilling. That moment when he said " you have control ".....
Me too. The Spits use a left hand circuit on 23 whereas we mere mortals are in the right hand. As I called right base for 23, the Spit called left base 23. I deferred of course and went round. At £6,000 / hour they need priority ! lol
Haha love that, yeah that’s a bit steep for a go around 😅😅
The Spitfire pilot even sounds cool with the slightly muffled radio
Haha yeah, authentic!!
All I can think of is that scene from Battle of Britain where the lad is training and the instructor comes down going: "Takatakatakatakataka"
Hahaha yes!!
I was flying at Aston downtown that day in an ASK-21, when I saw that spitfire shoot past the north side of the airfield!
Pretty crazy sight isn’t it!
fly into Duxford on the day there will be an air show going on, you could encounter a very pleasant surprises.
When we did it several years ago, where so lucky that on left side a Thunderbolt, and on the right side a spitfire MK9 crossed us head on, I will never be forgetting that moment…
@dannyvanstraelen3273 I actually went to Duxford last Monday and once again was asked to hold on a taxiway to let a Spitfire cut in front, the we followed it down the taxiway and did our power checks next to it.. crazy times..
Wow that’s amazing! A story that will stay with you forever!!
On my bucket list to fly in Spitfire, despite the price !!!
I know what it costs to keep these warbirds flying ✅
oh me too, just far too much money to justify for me.. Great they still get to fly!
They make replicas with GM V8 engines. Still not cheap though
£3k for 30 mins. Seems good value. _Hmmm...! Gets me thinking..._
_"Hey! Where's the missus? Not seen her for some time."_
_"I part exchanged her for a 30 min flight in a Spitfire!"_
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Old Spitty just making its income. That's what we like to see.
@Radictor44 making it's pocket money
Look like that Spitfire was reliving it's glory days.
Yeah!!
The time to worry is when you hear " daga daga daga"
haha yes we didn't hear that thanks god
A duel seater with original markings for the 457 SQN RAAF in WW2 Pacific colours. nice video mate, one of the birds my father would have worked on in Moritai
Thank you sir! You do know your stuff!
CATCH THOSE JERRY'S!!!
There is only one word "awesome ".
If you could see any plane up close like this, what would it be? Still can't believe this happened on my second outing as a private pilot!! Enjoy!
Concorde / DC-3 / Spitfire / Harvard in that order.
Basically any ww2 plane, be it fighter or bomber. But my favorite would definitely be the 'timber terror' Dehavilland Mosquito. Nice experience for you, something you don't see every day.
Tough one, I would go for a Dornier Do X, or the SR-71.
@@frodeskibrek oh cracking shout with the Concorde
@@phunkeehone Yeah very good suggestion, very rare
What a beautiful aircraft the spitfire is.
I really feel like there was just something so special when these war machines were designed with pencil and paper. You can see the love and pride in the lines of so many of these classic planes and ships from the 20th century!
I wonder why the site of WW2 British aircraft have the tendency to give me an almighty lump in the throat 🤗
Spitfires are my all time favourite plane
Same
LOL the Spitfires like that cocky rich owner Lamborghini of the airways hahaa
'ACHTUNG. SPITFEUR!'
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Interesting video, sketchy wx. Good decision making on your part👍😊💜
I must echo another commenter, mind your fingers around ailerons and flaps etc especially when it's windy (some aircraft also have awkward fuel drain offs, both my dad and I have the scars to prove that).
I think, on average, the Spitfires have been there once a month throughout the summer🤔 Also there's been, again, iirc, a Yak there too🤔✌️💜😊
Thanks for sharing 👍😊✌️💜
Thanks! Yeah weather was towards the limit of what I'd go up in at the point. Appreciate the kind words!
Yeah fair point, I did see the other comment. Appreciate the concern, point noted.
My pleasure, glad you enjoyed! Stay safe
@@RoutesAbove Thanks. We still try to pop to Kemble from to time, albeit by road these days. Back in the day the nearest airfields, for flight training, to the Cotswolds and Swindon were; Thruxton, Booker and Kiddlington (I can't recall if Staverton was doing flight training back then). Kemble is a great resource nowadays, so are the local airstrips. Enjoy your flying✌️💜👍😊
Lovely stuff, yeah it’s great round here, loads of great locations are a short flight away (Duxford, Turweston, Welshpool etc). Thank you sir, enjoy yours too 👍
Sorry, but that beautiful old war bird stole the show for me. Thanks for posting, your friend from across the pond. New Jersey USA
Thanks chap, glad you enjoyed! Stay tuned for more content!
"Three thousand pounds for 30 minutes"! Bloody hell! I knew I was in the wrong line of work! Flying with a Spitfire now that would've been quite a sight especially a dual seater as they really are in the minority!
I know it’s crazy money!! Yeah I thought it still looks pretty cool!
Wow i wasn't expecting to see a 457 Sqn RAAF Spitfire done up in the UK.
If Only that twin seater was here.
Yeah well spotted!!
@@RoutesAbove I've seen the Bobby Gibbes painted MkVIII here many times.
I know those markings very well
Keen eye, love it
That was super cool! Thank you for sharing your experience!! :O
My pleasure!! Glad you enjoyed! 🤟
"Roger That" is Hollywood-style R/T. You won't find it in the CAP 413.
the fact that even after 270k views he still has only 446 subs kind of makes me sad because his content is great and he deserves more subs
🙏🙏 Thanks you for your kind words! Watch this space my friend, lots more content coming very soon!! Peace!
Damn modern flying regs in the 40s you'd be able to buzz him on the runway for that hehe and get a nod in the bar after tower chewing you out 😂
Hhahaha how times have changed
Formidable experience
I know right!
What an experience 👍
I know right! We are lucky chaps
Didn't you know Spitfires always have right of way :D
I know right! The cheek of it! Haha
Dagga Dagga Dagga. :)
Got the kill shot on us didn't he
wow what amazing luck! nice video, hopefully more soon
I know right and thank you for your kind words! More content in the very near future, stay tuned!!
I had an encounter and loose formation flight with a B-17 over Geneseo on a checkride prep flight
Jeez amazing!
If you are going to start your videos with a shot of picturesque Ciren, you could at least walk 100 yards to the market place. The telephone exchange is probably our LEAST pretty view 😂
hahahah good point
Memorable !!
Totally!
I had the same thing happen while shopping in lidl's,
Oh sorry sorry, it was a fire pit......( for the garden )
Spitfires are my fav Ww2 plane
Not every day u get intercepted by a spitfire. Imagine being a Luftwaffe pilot and seeing that come up your 6.
I know, what a day it was. Can only imagine what it was like back in the day
Brown alert!
😂
Ill Black cat that by mentioning being in the circuit with an RAF C17 and a USAF U2 while flying a C-150 " Only possible at RAF Akrotiri"
What a mega experience!! Happy flying my friend
Whilst flying in a Cessna out of Doncaster airfield we were warned that a RAF trainer from RAF Finningley. The jet trainer approached from behind and came up on our starboard wing. It then rose up keeping level over the Cessna to a position on our port wing, then continued under us back to our starboard wing. Where it peels off.
@alanwoollett2628 What an experience that must have been!
Kind of puts it into perspective. If you ask me if I'd like to go for a ride in your plane I'd probably say, "Sure. I guess so." If you ask me if I'd like to go for a ride in that Spitfire I'd say "Absolutely! And which nut do you want?"
Was it my imagination, or were some of the expletives misspelled?
You may or may not be correct..
DAGA DAGA DAGA DAGA................
Depending on traffic, just do an orbit on final.
Cracking experience. Handled nicely. 👍🏼
Pssst! - Welshpool is Mid Wales. 😊
Yeah not bad ay! Haha when I watched the video back I did think that but hoped no one would notice.. 😬😬
@@RoutesAbove sorry ... I only whispered if that helps 😉
haha much appreciated ;)
This is a great video - love it. What a memory to cherish. 😎
@christinebarnes3493 Thank you for your kind words, glad you enjoyed! We sure as hell won't forget this flight!
Good thing his weapons jammed.
Yeh phew
Be seriously honoured there’s only 60 flyable spitfires around.
I know it's crazy isn't it! It's not even the only encounter I've had.. there's another video on the channel with another one!
Achtung! Schpitfeur!
I don’t know if this counts at all, not being Spitfire-related…
Some years ago I was driving home past Rougham Airbase near Bury St Edmunds in my old Peugeot 308 with the sunroof pulled back. Its a quiet country lane. I turned the corner onto the lane that happens to be under the approach for the runway (Sow Lane). I was suddenly assaulted (ASSAULTED!) by a tremendous aircraft noise. Above me by not very much at all and directly overhead was a P51 Mustang with undercarriage and all the flaps down. I got the lot, compressor whine, slipstream noise, that massive engine grumbling and complaining, an astonishing view of the shiny underside up close. Then it was gone. Over the hedge to my right and on to the strip. I’m surprised I didn’t crash the car.
An actual Mustang!! I love those things. Your description of it is so good, what a thing to behold
Spitfire with twin equal size radiators - a Mark 9 (IV) ??
Unsure I'm afraid, let me know if you find out what it is!!
I flew in that particular Spitfire 😊
No way!! How was it??
@@RoutesAbove it was absolutely amazing. At the time it was owned by my sadly deceased friend Bill Greenwood.
Amazing, what an experience
Video - very cool. Music - yeah, no.
Haha thanks for the honest feedback 👍
Hello Luck Men.
Well, if you going to be trolled it may as well be by the most famous fighter plane of them all!
Exactly!
3:30 - "blimey"...
How long does it take to get your PPL compared to a pilot during WW2 get his license to fly a spitfire in combat?
It's scary how few hours some of the WW2 pilots went into battle with..
Honestly, I wouldn’t even be mad
Oh we weren't, we were just in awe really about what was going on haha!
Dakka dakka dakka
Was expecting gunfire 😅
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If you were over Cirencester on 25th August at 13:45 I got a (crappy) photo of the two you!
Wasn't us I'm afraid, keen to see the photo however as I might know who it was! Could you send it to my Instagram account? Routes Above, same logo :)
@@RoutesAbove instawhat?🤣 I'm sorry I don't have Instagram.
haha no worries at all, worth a try 😅. Stay tuned for some more spitfire action coming up
They know you are new pilot and wanna test you
Eeek yeah was an interesting test
RAAF represent
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3k for 30 min 😮. 2k probably for insurance 😅
Crazy money isn't it!!
What a privilege.
I know right!! 😇
He turned behind you and then as he passed, lifted the nose and put the pip on you.
As you would, if flying a Spitfire.
All I can think about is, how many german pilots had that as the last thing they ever saw?
Eek I know!! 😬
@@RoutesAbove I'm truly envious dude 🤙
I let a Spitfire go ahead of me at Booker. Air traffic said he would over heat, and would I mind! Haha of course I dont mind, it's a Spitfire I replied.
Instant karma!!!!
He took off, ATC called "line up and hold, say again hold, he's going to do a flyby".
I'm sitting in a C150, on the centre line, when he goes past me, prop less than a foot off the runway, and wing tip feet from mine, we rocked quite a bit! He then did three rolls, levelled off at 1000ft, turned onto heading, and rapidly disappeared. Only then did ATC call me clear for take off. It was embarrasing opening up my 100HP and slowly accelerating, I felt like I was on a moped.Years later I was told "that must have been Ray Hanna!" I think it was having seen this. Enjoy!
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@clive373 That is actually amazing!! I’d be a big mix of being terrified and beside myself with excitement haha! Great story, happy flying sir!
Ive been number two to land with three f16s behind me in my C172 and told to expedite....eh okay i can do 85???
No way!! Haha I can imagine, "I'M FLAT OUT SIR!!"
I like to imagine this is the ghost of a RAF pilot who sticks around to make random people's days
haha yes!
On A check/preflight, when checking aileron hinges, do NOT put your fingers in there, unless you are holding the aileron!
Good point, noted. Especially as it was windy..
Could of had his fingers pinched badly on that faux pas .
Roger !
Ouchey
I didn't even notice 😅
I had a similar experience. Flying from Sywell, this was in 1995, we were informed that a ME109 (yes Black 6) was approaching on our port quarter up. And it was in the sun!!
We got goosebumps when we first caught glimpse of the slender shape.
A mere 50 years earlier and that would have been the last silhouette we ever saw!
Amazing what an experience!! Is pretty eerie if you think about it isn't it!
As the saying goes “Beware the hun in the sun”
Your only consolation would have been to think, statistically, he was only going to land 8 times before the badly designed aircraft killed him on landing.
Fifty years before 1995? Nah, because while he might have been pulling in on your six, about _sixty_ RAF and USAAF would be pulling in on _his,_ he'd be too busy bailing out, dying, or surrendering, to think about doing _you_ any harm.
There is a good question I never heard referred to before ( edit to say, I meant, "When was the last german raid into the UK" as the question.
I hit the books, and by books, I mean I signed into the National Archive.
Long story short, The Battle of Britain was bombers with fighter support, but that was all over by June 1941. German air attacks subsequently reduced to ten percent of the average of 1941 for the remaining of the years until mid 1944. After mid 1944 they reduced to isolated single bomber intrusions and photo-recon.
The last major operation, January to May 1944 ,was against Southern England, mainly London and the Ports. It was called Operation Steinbock. The germans committed 474 Bombers, with limited night-fighter escort that did not cross the English coast.
They lose 70% of the aircrews, dead, in 5 months, and had 329 aircraft destroyed. Most aircraft were lost to radar guided Night-fighter interceptions.
Exactly ZERO American fighters defended Britain against it, as they did not have night-fighters that were sufficiently experienced. Night-fighting was given a low priority by the USAAF, because they did not fly raids at night, and the British had been using night-fighters for four years by that point.
However, USAAF fighters did fly in daylight, in protection of their own air-bases in the UK, and of course they were flying escort missions on the continent .
@@ShadowDragon8685
Many years ago I was “buzzed” by a Mustang after establishing radio contact, when coming in to an airport in country Australia - unbelievable thrilling experience.
Love it, great pub story
Wasn't Archerfield in QLD by chance?
It's actually so cool to see that these war birds are still flying even more than 80 years after they were built...
I know right!
That's the thing about machines. If you maintain 'em right, and don't work them to the point they're clapped out, they keep working.
And sometimes, if you design and build 'em right, they can take what similar machines of similar vintage would consider way past "clapped out" and keep on trucking along. The war locomotives for example.
definitely, and this was and is an exceptionally well designed machine. Excellent example of your description =D@@ShadowDragon8685
@@ShadowDragon8685 Quite a lot of the spitfires still flying are new builds from data plate restorations, still amazing to see though.
Your skillful handling of the go-around and the subsequent successful landing showcased your abilities as a new pilot. The blend of excitement, suspense, and the unique sighting of the Spitfire made this flight truly extraordinary. Thank you for sharing this captivating aviation tale! 🛫✈🔥
I'm thoroughly flattered by your kind words, I hope you enjoyed watching this as much as I enjoyed making it! 😇
my body squirmed when your fingers went inbetween those ailerons! Stay safe bud!
About three years ago, on my very first flight in a glider, I was also overtaken by a Spitfire ! (From Duxford). Sadly, that experience, plus what I later discovered were unusually good soaring conditions, meant I had a bit of a false impression of what glding was about... Never did have another day quite like it during the rest of my training! Well... there was one day when the airtemp was over 30 degrees, and we managed to get to 8000 ft over Cambourne!
Wow that's amazing, especially on your first ever flight!! Yeah I know what you mean, maybe gave you a false sense of what the normal experience is.. Hope you still keep it up and happy safe flying if so!
Maybe 35years ago I had my one and only glider flight out of Duxford. A 'K2' I seem to remember. In those days you just rocked up and took turns when the Uni' club were flying. It was an amazing experience as I too was incredibly lucky with the flying conditions. I was able to take control, diving till the wings shook and pulling up to the point of stalling. I was given a parachute but no instruction as to how to use it. TBH, I think it's primary function was to be a cushion. Good times!
Amazing experience,I’ve never been gliding but would love to give it a go! Sounds like you had a blast
Had a similar thing happen to me at Biggin Hill with a couple of F15s or F16s. I took off 1st and they were told to keep clear or us and they interpreted that to mean blast past me 1 on either side. Me doing about 75 knots them doing about 200 knots. Apparently they were up for practice maneuvers for an upcoming airshow. It was a bit scary but also very cool.
Nice video by the way.....
Jeeez!! That's actually crazy, I can only imagine the feeling of them shooting past!! Good pub story though haha
200kts ? They must have throttled way back !
This time last year I had a flight in a Magni gyrocopter, an hour of bumbling around the skies in south Essex and over the Thames (absolute magic). When we finally came to the end of the flight, on our finals, we heard the pilot behind us cursing and swearing over the air. He'd just been cut off by a Lancaster bomber! I could just about see it a mile or two to the south. I guess he was cruising down the Thames at low altitude (about 500ft) for some event in London.
That does sound amazing, what an experience! Interesting hearing that pilot cursing down the radio haha!!
Dang, tough wind conditions in ground, it was blowing you all around. What an experience to be around a Spitfire though.
I had this happen once , I was head my back to Hawarden and I was low between beeston and peckforton castle when the Bbmf spitfire called up to ask me to maintain heading and altitude
It then flew straight under me
Love this, what an amazing thing to see!! Sounds like your got even closer to you than ours did in this video!
Had this happen with about 2 hrs solo, excerpt it was a clipped wing Mustang passed about 600' off my right wing at about 100 knots faster than I was. It was quite unsettling even though the Tower advised he was passing.
Amazing!! Yeah exactly the same feeling here, as cool as it was, it was yet another thing to have to think about
In flying, you do see a lot of different things... A few times near the River Trent, I've had the Red Arrows do that too.
I had a moment with a Tornado GR4 when flying a Grob 115 up in Scotland, less than 500ft below me passing my left to right. Just remember seeing a strobe in the distance, before actually making out what it was over the water, then tracking it as it passed underneath and seeing it on full afterburner under my right wing heading up towards Lossiemouth. Will never forget that. 😅
@mike_kokuz17 Jeez having a jet around you like is actually crazy, I'd be scared I'm being intercepted 😅
A great video and an amazing experience. Thank you for sharing it. I think you definitely passed through the gunsight of that Spitfire! :)
My pleasure, glad you enjoyed it!! Yeah I reckon we did! eek!
I agree, probably made that Spitty pilots day!😂
Haha I hope so, would be 1-1 if so
except that these replicas have never had guns or a gunsight.
I think that spitfire made an attack run on you. Between 4:14 and 4:17 he brings his nose is up and pulls lead on your aircraft. When you see this picture in combat flight simulators it means you're about to be riddled with bullets. Lucky for you it was a TR 9 trainer with only two 30 cal Brownings. Had it been in its original Mk IX form you'd have been hit by two 20 mm Hispano cannons. None the less, what you saw was the very last thing many Luftwaffe pilots saw. Just thought I'd put a different perspective on your experience.
Wowza you know your stuff! We would be very dead you are absolutely correct! Very cool experience
Not quite in the same league, but in my first ever flight with an instructor, about a month ago, we had to wait after start-up as there was a Spitfire taxiing in front of us. (Solent Airport, EGHF)
Right at the start of my video here:
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Incredible. What an experience. And probably something Axis pilots last thing they saw back in WW2
@begolatman I know right, glad you enjoyed! Yeah that must have been crazy 😬😬
I did my Spitfire flight in TE308 Grey Nurse out of Biggin Hill .. It was an amazing experience and I had Anna Walker as my pilot ... she gave me control as much as possible including me doing a wing over from a dive and climb .. an awesome day out
No way!! That's actually such an amazing experience, lucky man!
Hang on to that aileron in the wind! Losing a finger would make for a tough preflight.
blud was lagging so much he took off during the battle of britain and ended up in 2023
hahahah love this
The English are fanatic about their spitfires. Probably for the same reasons Americans are fanatic about our Mustangs.
Bang on
The Spitfires played a monumental part in saving Britain from falling into the hands of the Nazis over 80 years ago. That fanaticism is justified!
Completely agree