HOW DO YOU BECOME A CONCERT PIANIST? // Can Anyone Become A Concert Pianist - My Honest Opinion
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 3 ก.ค. 2024
- Today, I answer the question that I get asked from time to time, which is: how do I go about becoming a concert pianist?
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I started piano lessons when I was 8y old. When I was 12, I met a new classmate who invited me to visit. Nice family, big house, beautiful grand piano and I ask what he is practicing. So he began to play Beethoven's Piano Sonata No. 8 in C minor op. 13 . That's when I realized that my goal in life had to change. Since then, I love playing the piano, especially that wunderfull sonata, but it became a beloved hobby. So I'm not a pianist, not even a musician, but I've been playing for at least 1 hour every day for 50 years. And I love it (and so does my family)
Jus beautiful
Thanks for the video!. I began at 50, five years ago, so, for sure, I knew I would never be a great pianist. But, after just 4 years, I got on a pop/rock band playing the keyboard. And, trust me, that has been life changing!. I continue attending piano classes and trying to improve playing in general, not just what I need for the band. But it is really a booster for me. So, I recommend anyone starting late, to join other musicians and play along them. It is highly rewarding!
Classical and jazz music are not as appreciated by the masses. Yet, those are the two hardest genres of piano by far. So, doing pop/rock makes practical sense! Did you play guitar, bass, or drums before taking up piano?
@@BladeJones My only previous experience was way back, when I was a teenager, when I played just chords on Spanish guitar. But I stopped playing at 20 or so... until I was 50 and went for keys (although last year I began to play again the Spanish guitar, even bought an electric one and learned to adjust it. And have recently got an Akai EWI5000 to have some more musical tools on hand! 🤩)
In perspective, I am sorry to be so late on taking up piano / keyboard playing. But you can't change your past (if you re not Marty McFly, that is 🤣)
Love that, I wish you all the best and enjoy all the music making!
@@JoseVGavila What are some examples of songs that you play? Can you play the solo to "Good Thing" by Fine Young Cannibals? The hardest solo in rock/pop piano IMO. Or the ending solo to "Sweet Home Alabama"? A close second as far as difficulty. Yet, those songs are elementary compared to classical stuff!
@@BladeJones No, my level is not yet there, by far!. I play mostly band keyboard accompaniment. It is like the glue on the band. You don't notice it too much... until you remove it, and then everything sounds thinner As an example of a song, we play "Hotel California" and I play the organ there. We play plenty of Spanish pop/rock, so you probably won't recognize those songs. We do covers of Loquillo, La Oreja de Van Gogh, Miguel Rios, Fito, Amara, Sabina... Another known song we play is "Zombie" by The Cranberries. There I play mainly a rock piano (adding some layered e-piano and pads) and then some synth riffs. As you can see, nothing too elaborate, but keeping rhythm and getting into the song mood makes my small contribution worthy to the band. I hope! 😅
I’m 62. I’ve toured my whole life as a Trumpet player but also had a stable career outside of music. Started studying classical piano recently .... I practice 3 to 4 hours a day because I enjoy it. Don’t let age get in the way. It’s just a number.
It's fine to have hobbies.
Agreed. Playing piano should be for everyone and keeps people fulfilled in life. Simply by playing guitar, I already feel so much happiness. My next goal is to star piano lessons in 2024
Thank you for this highly interesting video and look behind the scenes. I was always aware of the dedication that it takes to become a concert pianist bit loved hearing your thoughts and perspective.
Even though I'm not into piano try to earn money (I'm just an advanced beginner with delusional aspirations :)), I always enjoy listening to concert pianists discuss what it takes to become one. It seems that we are in a period that allows creative musicians with initiative and persistence to find all kinds of interesting ways to make a living with music. There are several such individuals with TH-cam channels that I enjoy watching. Thanks for the discussion. Your videos are always interesting and informative!
Thank you so much!
Danae thank you your channel has helped me so much with my playing and ha motivated me to play so much
This is a good message for anyone going into the arts. I work as an animator. But I don't work for disney and didn't make traditional concept art for 2d movies/tv my only source of income. Why? Because it's an outdated industry and not reliable. I work in multiple fields and have spread my income wide (and probably should make it wider). It's ok to modify your dreams or take side jobs to make your dreams sustainable. There is not only one path for artists and we do have to think outside to box to find places to apply our craft. Having good living situation and health insurance can make your craft stronger. And unfortunately money is a huge part.
You are so right about starting at an early age. Rick Wakeman started when he was five years old. he tells this story about his first recital where he played "See a monkey on a stick." I know that I will never rise to the level that you are at, but, the joy is in the playing.
The joy is definitely in the playing! :) Well said!
Thank you so much for talking about this topic !
Personally I was an aspiring concert pianist not so long ago, but unfortunately I got a bad teacher for 8 years and I never took practice seriously.
After a pause of 4 years I went back to practice and I'm preparing for entering in a conservatory.
I want to let you know that I watched every video of your channel, they are tremendously helpful for people like me, both for technique but also for having the right mindset.
I wish one day to become a good piano teacher, and with that made a living out of music..
Thank you so much again for your precious advices 🤍🎶
That‘s amazing that you got back into it, I wish you the very best!!! Thanks so much watching :)
Thanks for you video, excellent. I am in my late seventies and have only just stated to learn piano, realistically I won’t be able to achieve much , but already I have noticed benefits to my wellbeing, I’m glad you mentioned about your video about it never being too late to learn, I shall seek it out. Good luck with your career.
Whether or not a pianist is a "concert pianist" or not (i.e., "amateur"), is not the main issue, rather it is the quality of interpretation which counts, even more so than the technical aspects of performance. The technical points brought forward in this channel help. However the main challenge is lack of quality time for the amateur, compared to a concert pianist who has quality morning hours to prepare/practice whereas the amateur usually comes home exhausted from a day's work and has to prepare/ practice mostly on weekends.
Love this video...great insights!--oh, I found your CD on Ebay so am looking forward to listening to it while taking my drives here in Oregon.
Awesome! Thank you!
Danae thank you for making this video, no one is actually telling me anything about my passion for piano, after watching your video I find some answers
You're so welcome!
❤❤Thank you.❤
Just to share! Thanks for the video!
I am 22. I started at 16 and played 8 hours every day and took lessons from a great teacher. I watch videos like this every other month cause I start doubting myself. I just graduated with a bachelor in piano performance. I have auditions to masters school for piano soon. I need a teacher who will take me to the next level
Thanks Danae. It's tough to be a concert pianist but there are two sides to this equation. As someone who will never be a concert pianist (although grade 8 and started at eight) I would like to see more promoting of classical music by those who love it but won't make a living by it. Less talk of pop music, more talk of sophisticated music! Now is a golden opportunity because so many over 35's think modern pop is absolute rubbish.
I definitely agree with you that more promoting of classical music by those who love it would be great and beneficial to everybody. In my experience, many people just haven‘t been introduced to it at all or in the right way and when done so, they become big fans of classical music. :)
What a lovely vlog!
It is hard to want to be a concert pianist when there are so many things conspiring against it.
Personally, I knew that there was a ceiling for me, which I accepted, and had a career which wasn‘t at the top, but satisfied me enough to strive for a satisfactory standard.
I love the way that you are .encouraging, but honest about the difficult climb to the top. You have to totally believe in your abilities to succeed in the role of a concert pianist.
So that you don‘t fail in your quest just be honest with yourself and accept that only a small percentage of people really make it.
You will be a happier person in the long run!
Yes, I absolutely agree. Thank you so much!
@@lourens753 but the satisfaction and joy surely outweighs the sacrificies?
Danae radiates with enthusiasm!
Thank god for her!
@@lourens753 yes, i understand your point. I would say that some of the very fine pianists have so much to offer- a case in point is Danae, who brings a wealth of teaching knowledge to her performances.
I rate her interpretive powers to be up with the greats, but, of course, it‘s subjective.
@ I just love everything you play- you are my one and only pianist!!
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@@lourens753 thanks for info- I will have a listen to them!
I’m a 65 year old software engineer, and restarted playing about 8 years ago after not playing since my teen years. I am constantly working on new classical repertoire, but also playing a lot of contemporary and pop music.
I have no fantasy about becoming a professional concert pianist, but I would like to somehow be connected to the piano and derive some supplemental income from it.
I have considered looking into playing lounge piano at local bars and restaurants as I ease into retirement. I do hope however, to derive enough income from this endeavor to supplement my social security income.
If I can’t make that work, I may delve into piano repair and tuning, as i have restored and tuned an old upright piano from the 1920’s I inherited from my grandparents.
Another avenue I’m considering is operating a venue. I own a small building which I’m considering turning into a venue for bands and artists to play in. There seems to be a lack of affordable venues for bands and artists to perform concerts, so that is another possibility.
Just thought I’d mention some additional ways of deriving income from music, outside of becoming a professional concert pianist.
Thanks so much for commenting this and for adding these ideas of creating income through classical music. I love all of them and wish you all the best on these different avenues or maybe even all of them. ;) Thanks for watching!
It's great that you didn't have to starve or feel inferior to others financially. It's not fun.
@@yishihara55527
We all have our crosses to bear.
@@DeanHorak Yes, some heavier than others.
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Yes. And some of us work toward our dreams harder than others, while others throw rocks at those who do, whining and complaining about their lot in life instead of pulling themselves up by their bootstraps - choosing to blame others (eg liberals) for their own failures in life.
Takes all kinds.
relaxed baby elbows, ur an angel who loves piano
To become a concert pianist (for me that is a pianist who have a career and plays 50-80 concerts a year at all the big venues all over the world) it all comes down to be born with natural virtuosity/talent, develop that talent, depth of understanding/ interpretation and the ability of listening to oneself, dedication in practice practice practice and very important: parents and teacher(s) who knows how to bring up a child with such talent the right way. I personally do not hink it's about creativity ( a natural talent already has that creativity) . Also I do not think it's about how to know how to sell yourself. If you have to sell yourself, then you miss something in the things mentioned above and you will probably not make it to the top . A natural talent who exceeds the competition will be noticed by the right people anyways and therefore will get their stage. However, many/most pianists only have some recitals now and then and they get a lousy payment for their performances. I do not consider them as a concert pianist, they are just 'a' pianist. For those pianists is selling themselves crucial indeed cause that's the only way they get some recitals here and there as they will not make it to Carnegie Hall anyways. It's hard to say, but it is the honest truth:)
You could become a composer-pianist, and make a name for yourself performing your own music or accompanying your own music with other soloists.
Love that!
Becoming a high-earning musician is akin to making it to the NBA in basketball.
I am an aspiring pianist, I'm 20 and I've been playing since I was 13 although started practicing seriusly 3 years ago, so I would be what you could say late. I understand becoming a 'concert pianist' not as in earning my income ONLY through concerts, but rather being able to develop the skill of performing to a competent level concert pianist repertoire. I know it's nearly impossible to earn an income the traditional way, and it's something I wouldn't really enjoy, not my cup of tea. So I think that's where the question really lies, Will I be able to be that skillfull? To play Chopin, Liszt, Rach, etc. I actually don't think I'm that late to achieve that level of skill.
I am not interested in it for money. I just want to be able to play. Great advice.
Yes and that is truly the most important thing! Professional pianist or not, you need to be in it for the music above everything else.
Hallo Danae, wenn Du auf der Suche nach einem Thema für ein neues Video sein solltest: es würde mich (und vielleicht auch andere?) interessieren, wie das Studium so geht, was die Auswahl der Stücke betrifft. Gibt es da bestimmte Vorgaben pro Semester (z. B. Abdeckung bestimmter Epochen? Jedes Semester eine klassische Sonate? Kann man da Wünsche äußern? usw.). Eine ganz andere Sache, die man nicht genug besprechen kann: Üben von Bachs WTK. Ich weiß, dass Du dazu schon so dies und das gesagt hast (also z. B. andere Stimmen außer Thema so leise wie möglich usw.), aber wie verhält es sich z. B. mit Engführungen usw.? Also wenn Du magst oder Dir gerade kein Thema für ein Video einfällt, dann wäre es vielleicht interessant, sowas mal aus Deiner Perspektive zu hören. Hat mir alles schon viel geholfen, super, hau rein! Viele Grüße!
Is it possible to have your own concert series in the "freelance space", but still have a full time teaching position?
Question: I'm having trouble choosing between 2 practice methods
The first is to play 1st bar 10x, 2nd bar 10x and both 10x until you get to the last bar in a page. It's extremely time consuming but I get more quality in a day than I do in a Month.
The second method is sight reading the piece really slowly once a day and listening to many recordings and reading the score, all 3 of which I am good at. This is faster but I don't know if it will yield as good as a result as the first one.
So, what should I do?
In general, I would suggest a mix of the two. I would definitely keep the overall picture in mind, so sight read the piece really slowly once a day and listen to the score etc, but when it comes to difficult passages, I would try to dissect them a bit and maybe play a bar or a passage more often or with certain exercises. However, I wouldn‘t play every single bar 10x. To me, the most effective way to practice is to pick out the hard passages and work on those and then focus on the piece in its entirety again. Hope this helps!
Talking about the landscape -- are there still enough people enjoying classical music? And what does "classical" really mean? Would an improvisation of Chopin in moderrn jazz style be considered classical? Or what about new contemporary music? Or will AI take over and play and compose on a highest level soon enough? I am wondering...
Very interesting point, especially with the AI - I personally hope that doesn‘t happen for a long long time. ;) But in all seriousness, I believe that the arts (music, dance, theatre and so on) will be the last thing to be replaced by AI in a convincing way because it is one of the most earnest expressions of humanity. As for what „classical“ means, I do believe that the term has broadened a bit and that an improvisation on a classical theme in a different style can also fall under that category or at least „broader classical music“. Thanks for watching! :)
@ When AI replaces humans in the arts then why not replace humans altogether? What is human then? The questions become more vital the more AI progresses. /// My answer: A machine will do almost everything humans can do but will never feel, never be conscious. Therefore, mankind needs to redefine what truly is human and what will become a fulfilling life for humans. I trust that the arts may play a vital role here. For example, a live performer touches what a machine will never be able to touch. I conclude this from experience. I am aware that others come to other conclusions.
The tried and true method of producing a concert pianist is to be born in a major city in Russia and sent at the age of 5 (for example) to a special school, where the entire childhood until late teens is spent learning one's instrument all day long from fantastic teachers, and all that most valuable time is utilized. However, would these over-worked-over children become susceptible to severe career burnout later ? Good question. And there are other instruments other than piano, not to forget. Many a frustrated top-level pianist could have avoided the frustration by selecting an orchestral instrument to learn, unfortunately wisdom and being 5 years old are somewhat mutually exclusive.
I'm not an aspiring pianist, but I am writing a story about a keyboardist who starts off almost becoming a concert pianist, but then decides to join rock and roll and becomes a rock star instead.
OK: get real, get good teachers, get real, work hard, get real, be creative, get real again and always... but also always have fun! 😉
Hahaha exactly! 😉👌🏻