Just subscribed. I enjoy your videos. I just got a hardy h2 this year. I lit it October 2nd. I'm not sure exactly how much I have burned. I separated the odd cuts into a pile. I can say I haven't burned much. My Hardy h2 lasts about 18 hours. 40 degrees during the day and drops to the 30s at night
JIMINY CRICKET... That’s the biggest Grasshopper I’ve ever seen!🤯 I run a Heatmor stove with the Twin Turbo setup, so intake air is pushed from both the back and front... Not beneficial to open my door with the blowers going 😬. I too burn my lesser quality wood during the calm before the 🥶. Gotta save the good stuff for when it matters most! Bless’ns to ya, Tedd
How many years can you get out of your boiler before replacing it ? Does it require a permit and annual inspection , and do you have to have a license to operate it ?
Nice! Always interesting to me to learn about the boiler. I think it is the way to go especially when you are selling firewood. After splitting wood all those not so desirable pieces would have a purpose!👍🏻👍🏻B🆒
My fire started in the early 80’s been burnin ever since hehe i would love to know how much wood Ive burnt this year just for campfires it’s probably a good bit. I cut back a little bit this year to give the arctic shelf and glaciers time to heal. 🔥
#cuttingfirewood #woodwarriors #firewood #90 Cutting Firewood : FIRING up the Woodboiler 6,675 views•Sep 29, 2020 Surviving Country Life 2.39K subscribers
1 1/3 cord in a month roughly. 8 cords a year(roughly) that you have to split, dry, stack and transport. Thats a lot of work and effort for heat (not knocking you) I just thought they were more efficient. This is a great video and it puts wood heating in perspective. I was thinking about wood heating when I build my house but I'm not sure it's worth it, maybe $2000 a year to heat my house with gas. I guess its time vs money. Regardless great video
We started burning a couple weeks ago, but not the boiler. Just the wood stove. Right now, we have a fire every other night or so. It hasn't been that cold. Only touching freezing at night and 50s in the daytime. I've burnt about a face cord in that time frame. By the looks of things, I can hold off turning the heat on until Thanksgiving or maybe even the 1st of December. The wood stove does a good job as it was 78 in the house this morning!
I currently live in a uninsulated 12x26 cabin. With a box wood stove. I’ve been burning a month now. And I’ve went thru 2 face cords of wood Granted a few days it was so nice I let the fire die down
I burn an average of 20 cords of poplar per year in a naturally aspirated owb. 1900 sqft house and 1000 sqft shop in Manitoba Canada. A lot of ashes when you burn poplar!
@@mrwess1927 I try to let the poplar season for 12-18 months. When I fall behind I buy some 8' poplar that has been fell in early spring and left to leaf out on the ground. The leaves draw out a lot of moisture and I can burn it the following winter.
Raining here in Pa. all day, Dan, winter not far behind. I guess it depends on how cold and how bad the winter is as to how much wood you burn. I also think it would be the type of wood you are using. It has been warm out for a few weeks. The Wood burner burns clean, ash good for your garden. Stay Safe !
Hi Dan...I have a Central Boiler Classic CL5648. Installed November 2005 and it has never been shut down except couple weeks this past summer! I burn a lot of wood but never measured how much. 80% of what I burn is softwood, pine, fir, larch, cedar, aspen etc. mainly leftover pieces not able to use for saw logs. “I sell the best and burn the rest” lol! Great feeling being self-dependent for year round hot water and heat, utilizing a renewable local resource by-product! Like you, I load twice daily, morning and evening from now until April or so. Using for hot water during summer months just few blocks one time daily. I’m the wood hound in the very northeast corner of NYS, last time I checked the only one in this region thus far! Take care
Nice!! I eventually wanna get a large enough supply built up to run my boiler year round. I'm getting close and I'm sure during the summer it wouldn't take much like ya said. This past weekend it was in the 70s here & I only loaded once a day for a few days, and just a few pieces at a time. I like that: "Sell the best, burn the rest!"....hahahahah perfect!! 👍😀🍻
An interesting video as I don’t know much about wood boilers as they are not common in my neck of the woods,(Saskatchewan prairies 😜) we have a wood stove. Sometimes I’ll have a little fire in August but this year August was a scorcher!! I think in September we had a few fires. I like to use junk wood for those. We don’t have enough wood to burn 24/7 but like to have a fire all day. We started to have miserable snowy weather in the middle of October. That’s about when I turned on the propane furnace so I wouldn’t freeze out the husband at night. 😜🔥
We run the 24” “Elm” from Vermont iron stove in upstate ny in a big old house... vermontironstove.com. have pushed thru just 3/4 cord of norway maple, crappy box elder (oy, it stinks if it’s not down around 12%!) and a little elm. remote schooling & working has us burning more than usual. Will shift to elm/locust/cherry/oak in December. This year we’ll go thru 7 cords
Put a hood over your stove and at the top of the hood install a squirrel cage fan to pull the smoke out to the outside.when opening the door to remove the smoke outside they work great and relatively inexpensive.just pipe a pipe to the outlet of the fan to a six or eight inch pipe to the outside and you'll be in good shape I get three hours on three pieces of wood on my homemade wood stove.that will heat the house to 70 degrees and the attached garage to 80.those fans work awsome.
Several web sites state that this type of Wood Boiler (Wood Master 4400) is not available for residential sale and can't be used in the US... whats the deal with that? Have they changed the laws in the US?
Clayton forced air furnace. I've only burned maybe 1/2-3/4 cord off n on for last few weeks in Ohio. But in the full swing of winter I burn an estimated 1/2 cord a week of green not seasoned wood. (Never get caught up to get a year to season) So im jealous of your cord n half in 6 weeks.
About 2/3rds of a cord but it is also misleading to some degree. No fire for the first 7 days or so of Nov. and the last few of Oct. but I'm also burning JPF, so a little better than pine but not the good stuff either. It would be hard to gauge from most customers these days who get nothing but the best as well because so many of them supplement with an alternative heating source or only like to burn wood when they are home. One I do know of averages about 2.25 cord a year but he's also an outlier with a very efficient (super well-insulated) home.
lol...well it's an outdoor boiler inside I guess...hahaha....sometimes it gets a bit smokey in the shed, but I like not having to be in the rain or snow to fill it. 👍😀🍻
I have a free standing stove in the house. Our climate in Missouri is a bit warmer than yours. I have had 3 fires and used 1 wheel barrow full of wood so far. Again warmer here and we use a Eden pure heater a lot in fall and late winter early spring. If I would start a fire this morning with 4 pieces of wood it would be 80 in the house by noon. It is 34 degrees going to get near 60 today. This winter is number 30 with a wood stove. Average 2 cords per year. Last year only 1 1/2 cords.
Awsome vid thanks.how old is the wood boiler and how much did it cost .oh and thats a great idea to have it sheltered in a shed much much more efficient. Keeping the outside cold and wind off of it even though its insulated much more efficient.
That's not bad at all so far! I had to laugh because I got the same garden hoe that I use to rack coals around!! It'll be interesting once it starts getting really cold out how much you'll burn! Iam just getting my boiler fired up! Stay safe my friend!!
Yep you could burn green wood, however you'd burn a lot more of it to get the same heat value. Green wood burns longer because you need the time for the wood to dry and boil the moisture out of it. You are then using heat energy to dry the wood instead of heat the water that heats the house. Longer burns come from controlling the amount of air a fire gets and burning seasoned wood.
Great Vidja!!! The black "spooge" all around the door and firebox is because the boiler is of the conventional type. The low BTU softwood paired with low heat demands on the shoulder seasons doesn't help either. That is not a big deal though... that stuff scrapes or falls off easily and is re burnt. Once you get some dry hard wood going for a week it will clean up and be more brown and crusty. Cheers!
Just a foot note addition . With the old furnace we had it went thru average of 15 single face cords this new furnace in the last 4 years we have had it it has went thru an average of 8 1/2 single face cord ( 8 feet long 4 feet high x 16 inches wide ) also our winter temps range from 0 degrees f to - 46 plus w.c. to lower temps Thanks again
Will be missing another Friday night.will be in deer camp feeding my wood stove and chasing the wholly whitetail. Everyone be safe with the china flu coming back strong. 🇺🇸🇺🇸👍
GP Outdoors Yes. To be honest Back 40 is one of the only people that actually splits their wood and uses hardwood. We do that too. I never understand the appeal of burning green wood. But to answer your question we have a lot of farms around us and they all burn green softwood. In fact, they burn almost any wooden junk they get their hands on.
Hey GP, I'm not sure how common it is around here. For me I burn whatever I can get...but the big difference is I split & season everything I intend to burn. A lot of people will just toss in rounds that aren't split and barely seasoned. I prefer to have my BTUs produce heat for my house, not dry the wood I put in the boiler....lol 👍😀🍻
@@Back40Firewood google calendar might be your friend in that case. Or you can just look at the national weather service at the end of the season to see what temps burned what amount of wood. Do a tour of your wood shed, looks like it’s on the end of a barn.. park the tractor in there? Interested to build a similar building at my next property.
Very interesting video there Shifty! Will be neat to see how this progresses through the winter. I had my first fire on October 16th, mostly night time burns, then let the fire burn down during the day. Last night was our first fire in over a week with the warm spell we just went through, but down to 28 this morning. I have only went through a little more than 1/2 face cord so far since we have had the mild weather.
Hi - it's Big Rodders in Ireland. I live in a small 1000 sq ft property and have heated by wood only for years using a 48000 BTU glass fronted stove. I do a stock take on the 1st of each month and track my monthly and cumulative consumption in a ledger, which enables me track usage compared with previous years. I burn 8 to 10 cords annually and have 20 cords stored under cover - like you we get plenty of rain here, which explains the lush green grass in this part of the world. However, unlike you, I have to accept any species of wood in all shapes and sizes that I can acquire from local tree surgeons. I imagine you would describe much of what I have to process as rubbish! I enjoy you updates and would love to know what exact part of the States you are now based in.
Hey Big Rodders hope all is well across the pond. I'm in the state of Wisconsin here...and I also take anything I can get my hands on for wood....lol...if it burns I'll take it and feed it in the boiler. 👍😀🍻
Wow I was surprised by the amount of ash, not much at all must be mostly pine being burned, no Fire here we just missed the storm "ETA" by 40 miles and we where on the north side of it, it sucked in a lot of cooler and drier air from the north, so only had about 1/2" of rain and Max Gust of wind was around 20 MPH, low 80's today and for rest of week, but I did use my snow shovel today to remove the saw dust around the saw mill, Stay Safe, and keep being cool. Nice Video I think I learned something.
Hey Harry....good to hear you were missed by the storm. Yeah I think having that Pine seasoned also helps it burn down to minimal ashes. Show shovel for sawdust...lol....nice!! 👍😀🍻
Thanks Dan. I finally got my boiler going Oct. 31. I have burned approximately 1 face cord. Yesterday I emptied the ash and only had 2" in the bottom of a garbage can like yours. Mine is set to go on at 160 and off at 180. 74 is pretty hot, I don't think I could sleep at 74. How often do you scrape the inside of the firebox and around the door opening?
I talked to a dealer of the boiler manufacturer about a wood chip boiler that they were coming out with. Now I finally was able to split some rounds. Let's just say it didn't end well I'm in a boot. I am the master of bad luck.
I like your new video the moming you did a really good jop I've been burning my outdoor wood stove since October 17 when i have my outdoor wood stove going buddy it is 75 and are house now buddy
I just had a traditional wood stove in my home which was 800sq. ft. and I went through about 8 cords in my heating season which is much the same as yours; Sept.-early May. The main reason I eventually changed over to natural gas was I could never load it enough to carry me through the night. When I got up in the morning it was pretty much out and I would need to start a new fire and get the house warmed up again. the other problem I encountered was uneven heating. It was either too warm or on the chilly side, and this could be because of my in-experience with heating a home just with a wood stove. It did have electric base boards as a backup heat source but electric heating in northern Ontario was quite expensive so I always tried to avoid using that. Dumb question, what is the difference between a cord and a face cord?
A 1/3 cord is often called a Face Cord round here. Three Face Cords make up a Full Cord so it is a stack of wood 4' high by 8' long and cut to 16" pieces. A lot of people don't have the room to store a full cord and/or people don't have the means to deliver a full cord so the popularity of the 'face cord' exploded. If you think of three stacks of wood, each being 4' high by 8' long with the 16" pieces....the front stack would be the 'face' of the cord, I think that's how it got it's name, but not 100% sure on that....lol 😀👍🍻
Started my outdoor furnace about a month ago in southern Wisconsin, used about 2 facecords burning all shorts and ugly stuff. Need to build a nice shed over my furnace like yours. Loading in the rain and snow sucks! Great job on this video 👍
I do like not having to battle the weather when loading the boiler...only downside is if you leave the door open too long it does get a bit smokey in the shed. That's why I stage all the wood right by the door when I'm ready to load it...lol
I usually scrape it off or it ends up burning off. Not a problem unless I go to long and let too much of it build up, then it can be difficult to break/scrape it off.
It will be interesting to see how much you burn during the colder months and with more hardwoods. Have a great day and see you at the Livestream! I have burned about one face cord in my woodstove since approximately October 15th.
Interesting video.. I think I read Eagle Manufacturing, the company that manufactured Woodmaster, just filed for bankruptcy. Although they sold off Woodmaster a while back.
Can you burn coal in it? I have a wood and coal furnace which I also burn about 1,000-1,400lbs. of coal a year saves on the wood. coal in ohio is around $95-$100 a ton.
I can't speak for Dan but I've been burning wood for 14 years now in the winter the wood boiler saves me 350.00 per month. The first year I was handing the electric company 400/ 450 per month
It's hard to say cuz if I was paying for 'heat' I know we wouldn't have the thermostat at 74...lol...my electric bill went down $100 just from not having to run the water heater as much. Depending on the temps if it gets into a longer cold spell I'm sure it would save me a few hundred a month maybe..idk 👍😀🍻
Being inside that fan will last a long long long time. When they are outside and it’s humid and foggy they burn out quick. Moisture is what kills them!
Why in Sept. would you burn , just for the hot water , pine burns like paper like that poplar wood I start here in northern Ontario usually the first on Nov but we had good days but since Saturday nov 14 it went to a low of - 4 F and highs for today is around 15 to 20 F with snow ..... ugh . Have a good one , my furnace burns down to a half a water pail . It's a Summerair made here in Canada . good video
We had a cold snap hit end of Sept so I just decided to fire it up then...lol...prolly could've held off a few more days but I generally start burning the 1st week of October. And then yes, if it warms up a bit I keep the boiler going for the hot water. That pine does burn quick, but when temps aren't too cold it isn't calling for much heat to keep the boiler at temp so is a good time to burn it up. 😀👍🍻
Yes pine burns like paper if it is in a fire pit or an indoor woodstove. If you have an outside wood boiler that shut the air off and doesn’t waste the wood then it actually does just fine. Of course softwood doesn’t carry as much weight so you don’t get as much BTU per size of the wood but you’re not wasting any BTUs when the air is shut down. Never forget that would carries almost the same amount of BTU per pound. It takes more logs of pine to equal the same amount of weight as oak but if U have 20 pounds of pine and 20 pounds of oak, the btu is the same.
I actually own 40 saws and yes a few battery saws as well. I also own a tree service too. I sell firewood also. So.... anything else I can clarify for ya?
@@elwood0286 I've just found that wood left un-split in rounds doesn't season properly. And putting wood inside a boiler that isn't seasoned is then using the boiler more as a kiln to dry the wood down to a point where it will burn. Basically using BTUs to dry the wood instead of heat the house. I've cut standing dead Oak that were 3 years dead on the stump, then left the rounds sit another year, and when split open were still 40% moisture. The reason big rounds of wood last longer is it takes more time to dry the wood down so it will burn, but during that time you're not gaining any heat value from it. It depends on the type of wood, but take one of your rounds and split it in half and check the center moisture %. It's true outdoor wood boilers will burn anything you throw in them, I just prefer to have my wood split, seasoned, and utilize the BTUs for heating not drying.
I'd probably burn more actually. Big rounds that aren't split aren't fully seasoned so BTUs or heat has to be used to dry the wood down so it will burn. Those BTUs are then taken away from heat for the house so to make up for the loss more wood is needed to burn. Even a big round of dead Ash is going to be maybe 30-35% moisture...getting rid of that moisture will take heat. I don't want my boiler acting like a kiln...lol
Alex Armga I am subscribing to your videos because U are intelligent enough to know this. Seems nobody can figure that out! Love watching videos where people know what their doing! Thanks!!
Thats what i like about spruce and pine, they don't leave many ashes. When i used to burn aspen i had to dump the ashes about 3 times as often. Good video Dan.
Im new to your channel, thanks for the information. I just bought a house in the country and the previous owner had a wood boiler so im thinking about getting one. If I keep the house temp lower, it might not burn as much correct?? I keep my house now at 68°. Thanks!
Hey hardazz912...glad ya found the Back 40 channel and community. You are correct, to a point and depending on the boiler. But generally the less heat you pull off the water the less the boiler will 'burn' and the less wood you'll use. Lots of factors come into play tho.
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Just subscribed. I enjoy your videos. I just got a hardy h2 this year. I lit it October 2nd. I'm not sure exactly how much I have burned. I separated the odd cuts into a pile. I can say I haven't burned much. My Hardy h2 lasts about 18 hours. 40 degrees during the day and drops to the 30s at night
How much wood does a woodchuck chuck if a woodchuck could chuck wood?
JIMINY CRICKET... That’s the biggest Grasshopper I’ve ever seen!🤯
I run a Heatmor stove with the Twin Turbo setup, so intake air is pushed from both the back and front...
Not beneficial to open my door with the blowers going 😬. I too burn my lesser quality wood during the calm before the 🥶. Gotta save the good stuff for when it matters most!
Bless’ns to ya, Tedd
Yep, gotta save the JPF wood for dead of winter, or just go out & put wood in every 4 hours...hahaha 👍😀🍻
How many years can you get out of your boiler before replacing it ? Does it require a permit and annual inspection , and do you have to have a license to operate it ?
If maintenance is done, you can get 20 years out of one. In ohio it doesnt require a permit or license to operate
Great video as always 👍 What editor program do you use to make your videos? Thanks!
Thanks...I use Final Cut Pro on Mac. 👍😀🍻
That’s insane how little ash is left after a cord of wood
I thought it was supposed to boil the wood😃
Nice! Always interesting to me to learn about the boiler. I think it is the way to go especially when you are selling firewood. After splitting wood all those not so desirable pieces would have a purpose!👍🏻👍🏻B🆒
My fire started in the early 80’s been burnin ever since hehe i would love to know how much wood Ive burnt this year just for campfires it’s probably a good bit. I cut back a little bit this year to give the arctic shelf and glaciers time to heal. 🔥
I did 1 cord in my firepit..
LOL...the arctic shelf time to heal....hahaha...It is crazy sometimes just how much wood you can burn thru in an evening around the fire pit. 👍😀🍻
Thanks for the video ! I have burned probably 2/3 of a cord of wood so far. Heating two houses and heating only my water here in N.C.
I have a wood master 4400...13 years now. Burn 10 to 12 cords a year of pine....usually 3 cords per average per month.
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#90 Cutting Firewood : FIRING up the Woodboiler
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1 1/3 cord in a month roughly. 8 cords a year(roughly) that you have to split, dry, stack and transport. Thats a lot of work and effort for heat (not knocking you) I just thought they were more efficient. This is a great video and it puts wood heating in perspective. I was thinking about wood heating when I build my house but I'm not sure it's worth it, maybe $2000 a year to heat my house with gas. I guess its time vs money. Regardless great video
We started burning a couple weeks ago, but not the boiler. Just the wood stove. Right now, we have a fire every other night or so. It hasn't been that cold. Only touching freezing at night and 50s in the daytime. I've burnt about a face cord in that time frame. By the looks of things, I can hold off turning the heat on until Thanksgiving or maybe even the 1st of December. The wood stove does a good job as it was 78 in the house this morning!
In Michigan, we didn't turn on our furnace until November. I guess that is more efficient.
I currently live in a uninsulated 12x26 cabin. With a box wood stove. I’ve been burning a month now. And I’ve went thru 2 face cords of wood Granted a few days it was so nice I let the fire die down
Rainy weather ain't cold man. Its -30 to -40 for weeks on end here in the hinterland of Alberta so assume 10x wood needed
Remember it takes a lot of energy to heat water... For domestic hot water use...
I use to put the ashes on my garden and the driveway, also around the mailbox for the driver.
You don't explain why. Why do you do this?
@@bradleymiller6805
Ashes are Potash, good for the plants. And I used them on the Icy driveway for traction and help melt the ice
I burn an average of 20 cords of poplar per year in a naturally aspirated owb. 1900 sqft house and 1000 sqft shop in Manitoba Canada. A lot of ashes when you burn poplar!
Andrew Scott i heard tulip is a type of poplar. It burns quick. Every 2 hours need to replenish wood in the stove. How long do you season?
@@mrwess1927 I try to let the poplar season for 12-18 months. When I fall behind I buy some 8' poplar that has been fell in early spring and left to leaf out on the ground. The leaves draw out a lot of moisture and I can burn it the following winter.
mine sucked up a cord in October 10 cords a year
Raining here in Pa. all day, Dan, winter not far behind. I guess it depends on how cold and how bad the winter is as to how much wood you burn. I also think it would be the type of wood you are using. It has been warm out for a few weeks. The Wood burner burns clean, ash good for your garden. Stay Safe !
How much wood do you go through with just hot water in the summer?
I like the big grasshopper on the top shelf
I have a wood stove and have burned probably a face cord. Didn’t have a fire at all for the last week.
Hi Dan...I have a Central Boiler Classic CL5648.
Installed November 2005 and it has never been shut down except couple weeks this past summer!
I burn a lot of wood but never measured how much. 80% of what I burn is softwood, pine, fir, larch, cedar, aspen etc. mainly leftover pieces not able to use for saw logs. “I sell the best and burn the rest” lol!
Great feeling being self-dependent for year round hot water and heat, utilizing a renewable local resource by-product!
Like you, I load twice daily, morning and evening from now until April or so. Using for hot water during summer months just few blocks one time daily.
I’m the wood hound in the very northeast corner of NYS, last time I checked the only one in this region thus far!
Take care
Nice!! I eventually wanna get a large enough supply built up to run my boiler year round. I'm getting close and I'm sure during the summer it wouldn't take much like ya said. This past weekend it was in the 70s here & I only loaded once a day for a few days, and just a few pieces at a time.
I like that: "Sell the best, burn the rest!"....hahahahah perfect!! 👍😀🍻
I have the same thing..complete pile of shit.
What is the size of your house you’re heating?
An interesting video as I don’t know much about wood boilers as they are not common in my neck of the woods,(Saskatchewan prairies 😜) we have a wood stove. Sometimes I’ll have a little fire in August but this year August was a scorcher!! I think in September we had a few fires. I like to use junk wood for those. We don’t have enough wood to burn 24/7 but like to have a fire all day. We started to have miserable snowy weather in the middle of October. That’s about when I turned on the propane furnace so I wouldn’t freeze out the husband at night. 😜🔥
We run the 24” “Elm” from Vermont iron stove in upstate ny in a big old house... vermontironstove.com. have pushed thru just 3/4 cord of norway maple, crappy box elder (oy, it stinks if it’s not down around 12%!) and a little elm. remote schooling & working has us burning more than usual. Will shift to elm/locust/cherry/oak in December. This year we’ll go thru 7 cords
whyyyyyy arrrrrre you YELLLLLLLLING?
Put a hood over your stove and at the top of the hood install a squirrel cage fan to pull the smoke out to the outside.when opening the door to remove the smoke outside they work great and relatively inexpensive.just pipe a pipe to the outlet of the fan to a six or eight inch pipe to the outside and you'll be in good shape I get three hours on three pieces of wood on my homemade wood stove.that will heat the house to 70 degrees and the attached garage to 80.those fans work awsome.
Several web sites state that this type of Wood Boiler (Wood Master 4400) is not available for residential sale and can't be used in the US... whats the deal with that? Have they changed the laws in the US?
Clayton forced air furnace. I've only burned maybe 1/2-3/4 cord off n on for last few weeks in Ohio. But in the full swing of winter I burn an estimated 1/2 cord a week of green not seasoned wood. (Never get caught up to get a year to season) So im jealous of your cord n half in 6 weeks.
About 2/3rds of a cord but it is also misleading to some degree. No fire for the first 7 days or so of Nov. and the last few of Oct. but I'm also burning JPF, so a little better than pine but not the good stuff either. It would be hard to gauge from most customers these days who get nothing but the best as well because so many of them supplement with an alternative heating source or only like to burn wood when they are home. One I do know of averages about 2.25 cord a year but he's also an outlier with a very efficient (super well-insulated) home.
Looks like an indoor wood boiler to me?🤔 you’re going to break Joe’s heart with that beautiful wood going in that boiler you know that right??
lol...well it's an outdoor boiler inside I guess...hahaha....sometimes it gets a bit smokey in the shed, but I like not having to be in the rain or snow to fill it. 👍😀🍻
I have a free standing stove in the house. Our climate in Missouri is a bit warmer than yours. I have had 3 fires and used 1 wheel barrow full of wood so far. Again warmer here and we use a Eden pure heater a lot in fall and late winter early spring. If I would start a fire this morning with 4 pieces of wood it would be 80 in the house by noon. It is 34 degrees going to get near 60 today. This winter is number 30 with a wood stove. Average 2 cords per year. Last year only 1 1/2 cords.
A Full Cord is 4X4X8
Awsome vid thanks.how old is the wood boiler and how much did it cost .oh and thats a great idea to have it sheltered in a shed much much more efficient. Keeping the outside cold and wind off of it even though its insulated much more efficient.
A full cord is 4by4 by8
Thats only a half cord
That's not bad at all so far! I had to laugh because I got the same garden hoe that I use to rack coals around!! It'll be interesting once it starts getting really cold out how much you'll burn! Iam just getting my boiler fired up! Stay safe my friend!!
Can you burn green wood,
Would burn longer if you can use green wood
Yep you could burn green wood, however you'd burn a lot more of it to get the same heat value. Green wood burns longer because you need the time for the wood to dry and boil the moisture out of it. You are then using heat energy to dry the wood instead of heat the water that heats the house. Longer burns come from controlling the amount of air a fire gets and burning seasoned wood.
Great Vidja!!! The black "spooge" all around the door and firebox is because the boiler is of the conventional type. The low BTU softwood paired with low heat demands on the shoulder seasons doesn't help either. That is not a big deal though... that stuff scrapes or falls off easily and is re burnt. Once you get some dry hard wood going for a week it will clean up and be more brown and crusty. Cheers!
Just a foot note addition . With the old furnace we had it went thru average of 15 single face cords this new furnace in the last 4 years we have had it it has went thru an average of 8 1/2 single face cord ( 8 feet long 4 feet high x 16 inches wide ) also our winter temps range from 0 degrees f to - 46 plus w.c. to lower temps Thanks again
In my opinion you have the coolest setup with your boiler under a cover wood shed. 👍🏻
You are goofy
Will be missing another Friday night.will be in deer camp feeding my wood stove and chasing the wholly whitetail. Everyone be safe with the china flu coming back strong. 🇺🇸🇺🇸👍
So wood reduces down to ~2% of it's original volume when reduced to ash.
Morning Dan. Keeping the family warm. Question - is it common for folks to burn softwood in their boilers down there?
GP Outdoors Yes. To be honest Back 40 is one of the only people that actually splits their wood and uses hardwood. We do that too. I never understand the appeal of burning green wood. But to answer your question we have a lot of farms around us and they all burn green softwood. In fact, they burn almost any wooden junk they get their hands on.
Hey GP, I'm not sure how common it is around here. For me I burn whatever I can get...but the big difference is I split & season everything I intend to burn. A lot of people will just toss in rounds that aren't split and barely seasoned. I prefer to have my BTUs produce heat for my house, not dry the wood I put in the boiler....lol 👍😀🍻
I think it would be interesting for you to mark each month out on the wall.
Just a thought, love the videos
I could do that...I've also thought about tracking it in more of an official way and including average daily temps.
@@Back40Firewood google calendar might be your friend in that case.
Or you can just look at the national weather service at the end of the season to see what temps burned what amount of wood.
Do a tour of your wood shed, looks like it’s on the end of a barn.. park the tractor in there?
Interested to build a similar building at my next property.
We’ve gone through exactly 1 face. Anoka County, MN. Pacific Energy wood stove
Very interesting video there Shifty! Will be neat to see how this progresses through the winter. I had my first fire on October 16th, mostly night time burns, then let the fire burn down during the day. Last night was our first fire in over a week with the warm spell we just went through, but down to 28 this morning. I have only went through a little more than 1/2 face cord so far since we have had the mild weather.
Hi - it's Big Rodders in Ireland. I live in a small 1000 sq ft property and have heated by wood only for years using a 48000 BTU glass fronted stove. I do a stock take on the 1st of each month and track my monthly and cumulative consumption in a ledger, which enables me track usage compared with previous years. I burn 8 to 10 cords annually and have 20 cords stored under cover - like you we get plenty of rain here, which explains the lush green grass in this part of the world. However, unlike you, I have to accept any species of wood in all shapes and sizes that I can acquire from local tree surgeons. I imagine you would describe much of what I have to process as rubbish! I enjoy you updates and would love to know what exact part of the States you are now based in.
Hey Big Rodders hope all is well across the pond. I'm in the state of Wisconsin here...and I also take anything I can get my hands on for wood....lol...if it burns I'll take it and feed it in the boiler. 👍😀🍻
Wow I was surprised by the amount of ash, not much at all must be mostly pine being burned, no Fire here we just missed the storm "ETA" by 40 miles and we where on the north side of it, it sucked in a lot of cooler and drier air from the north, so only had about 1/2" of rain and Max Gust of wind was around 20 MPH, low 80's today and for rest of week, but I did use my snow shovel today to remove the saw dust around the saw mill, Stay Safe, and keep being cool. Nice Video I think I learned something.
Hey Harry....good to hear you were missed by the storm. Yeah I think having that Pine seasoned also helps it burn down to minimal ashes. Show shovel for sawdust...lol....nice!! 👍😀🍻
I haven't started my boiler yet maybe next month I will fire it up
More wood than expected :o
Edit: ok if it was all pine it's more understandable!
Thanks Dan. I finally got my boiler going Oct. 31. I have burned approximately 1 face cord. Yesterday I emptied the ash and only had 2" in the bottom of a garbage can like yours. Mine is set to go on at 160 and off at 180. 74 is pretty hot, I don't think I could sleep at 74.
How often do you scrape the inside of the firebox and around the door opening?
Yeah we don't have much for blankets on the bed at night...lol...I scrape the firebox & door every now & then when I see some build up on it.
It's a lot of wood, how tall is your house?
it is nice the stove heats your water to
I talked to a dealer of the boiler manufacturer about a wood chip boiler that they were coming out with. Now I finally was able to split some rounds. Let's just say it didn't end well I'm in a boot. I am the master of bad luck.
Ohh no....hope you're ok...sorry to hear that.
Have you ever thought of a gasification boiler?
Yeah the new ones are really efficient I've heard...but not sure I'd want to spend the $ to replace this one unless I needed to.
We had frost for a week - just 2 weeks ago, so this week it was rather warm again.... weather is all over :D
I like your new video the moming you did a really good jop I've been burning my outdoor wood stove since October 17 when i have my outdoor wood stove going buddy it is 75 and are house now buddy
Good night too you guys buddy
I just had a traditional wood stove in my home which was 800sq. ft. and I went through about 8 cords in my heating season which is much the same as yours; Sept.-early May. The main reason I eventually changed over to natural gas was I could never load it enough to carry me through the night. When I got up in the morning it was pretty much out and I would need to start a new fire and get the house warmed up again. the other problem I encountered was uneven heating. It was either too warm or on the chilly side, and this could be because of my in-experience with heating a home just with a wood stove. It did have electric base boards as a backup heat source but electric heating in northern Ontario was quite expensive so I always tried to avoid using that. Dumb question, what is the difference between a cord and a face cord?
A 1/3 cord is often called a Face Cord round here. Three Face Cords make up a Full Cord so it is a stack of wood 4' high by 8' long and cut to 16" pieces. A lot of people don't have the room to store a full cord and/or people don't have the means to deliver a full cord so the popularity of the 'face cord' exploded. If you think of three stacks of wood, each being 4' high by 8' long with the 16" pieces....the front stack would be the 'face' of the cord, I think that's how it got it's name, but not 100% sure on that....lol 😀👍🍻
Started my outdoor furnace about a month ago in southern Wisconsin, used about 2 facecords burning all shorts and ugly stuff. Need to build a nice shed over my furnace like yours.
Loading in the rain and snow sucks!
Great job on this video 👍
I do like not having to battle the weather when loading the boiler...only downside is if you leave the door open too long it does get a bit smokey in the shed. That's why I stage all the wood right by the door when I'm ready to load it...lol
Looks like creosote in firebox walls. Is that a problem? If so how do you address that?
I usually scrape it off or it ends up burning off. Not a problem unless I go to long and let too much of it build up, then it can be difficult to break/scrape it off.
It will be interesting to see how much you burn during the colder months and with more hardwoods. Have a great day and see you at the Livestream! I have burned about one face cord in my woodstove since approximately October 15th.
I already thought of that for next year...to track what wood was burned and also track average temp.👍😀🍻
Interesting video.. I think I read Eagle Manufacturing, the company that manufactured Woodmaster, just filed for bankruptcy. Although they sold off Woodmaster a while back.
And I think now Central Boiler or one of the other lines bought WoodMaster..even tho they are still making the WoodMaster line.
Sad because central boiler makes crappy ass stoves and wood master made good stoves
Can you burn coal in it? I have a wood and coal furnace which I also burn about 1,000-1,400lbs. of coal a year saves on the wood. coal in ohio is around $95-$100 a ton.
Nope don't think I can burn coal in it...also not sure if or where I'd get coal around here.
Wow coal for $100 ton. In N E ohio I paid 200 ton for coal 2 years ago. 4.5 tons gone in 100 days so I didnt buy it again.
So how much money do you save by using a boiler as opposed to not having any wood heat and using electric or gas (whatever is common in your area)?
I can't speak for Dan but I've been burning wood for 14 years now in the winter the wood boiler saves me 350.00 per month. The first year I was handing the electric company 400/ 450 per month
It's hard to say cuz if I was paying for 'heat' I know we wouldn't have the thermostat at 74...lol...my electric bill went down $100 just from not having to run the water heater as much. Depending on the temps if it gets into a longer cold spell I'm sure it would save me a few hundred a month maybe..idk 👍😀🍻
Have you had to replace your blower motor on the door yet. My friend has a wood master also and he had to replace it a couple time in 7 years.
Nope, haven't had to yet....hopefully mine keeps on runnin, knock on wood! lol
Being inside that fan will last a long long long time. When they are outside and it’s humid and foggy they burn out quick. Moisture is what kills them!
Why in Sept. would you burn , just for the hot water , pine burns like paper like that poplar wood I start here in northern Ontario usually the first on Nov but we had good days but since Saturday nov 14 it went to a low of - 4 F and highs for today is around 15 to 20 F with snow ..... ugh . Have a good one , my furnace burns down to a half a water pail . It's a Summerair made here in Canada . good video
We had a cold snap hit end of Sept so I just decided to fire it up then...lol...prolly could've held off a few more days but I generally start burning the 1st week of October. And then yes, if it warms up a bit I keep the boiler going for the hot water. That pine does burn quick, but when temps aren't too cold it isn't calling for much heat to keep the boiler at temp so is a good time to burn it up. 😀👍🍻
Yes pine burns like paper if it is in a fire pit or an indoor woodstove. If you have an outside wood boiler that shut the air off and doesn’t waste the wood then it actually does just fine. Of course softwood doesn’t carry as much weight so you don’t get as much BTU per size of the wood but you’re not wasting any BTUs when the air is shut down. Never forget that would carries almost the same amount of BTU per pound. It takes more logs of pine to equal the same amount of weight as oak but if U have 20 pounds of pine and 20 pounds of oak, the btu is the same.
@@AATreeService Snuffed down fires make me worry about chimney fires
In an OWB that’s not really an issue
Very simple question have you a link to the wood master website
Hey Harry...sure,
www.woodmaster.com
I think they were bought out by Central Boiler but are still keeping the same WoodMaster name/brand.
@@Back40Firewood Thank you
Shifty do you hace a Facebook page for your channel?
Yep...there's a Back 40 Firewood Facebook page. 👍😀🍻
@@Back40Firewood I'll be liking it.thanks bud
See the thing is
At 128cubic foot. About 20 30% is wasted space. Space between the logs ect. So I’m reality your not burning a actual “128cube ft”
That doesn’t matter, a stacked cord of wood is still considered 128 cubic feet. You’re just kicking sand
@@AATreeService ok honcho. Just stating facts is all.
I bet you own a cordless saws don’t ya?
I actually own 40 saws and yes a few battery saws as well. I also own a tree service too. I sell firewood also. So.... anything else I can clarify for ya?
@@AATreeService You own a pair of penny loafers too?
I do yep.... from my grandfather. Have them to me when he passed away.
What length do you cut your wood at
Usually 16", but if I know it's only going to be for my use in the boiler I'll cut it at 20" sometimes.👍😀🍻
@@Back40Firewood I leave my wood full rounds 20" long I fell it burns longer that way why do you split yours
@@elwood0286 I've just found that wood left un-split in rounds doesn't season properly. And putting wood inside a boiler that isn't seasoned is then using the boiler more as a kiln to dry the wood down to a point where it will burn. Basically using BTUs to dry the wood instead of heat the house.
I've cut standing dead Oak that were 3 years dead on the stump, then left the rounds sit another year, and when split open were still 40% moisture. The reason big rounds of wood last longer is it takes more time to dry the wood down so it will burn, but during that time you're not gaining any heat value from it.
It depends on the type of wood, but take one of your rounds and split it in half and check the center moisture %. It's true outdoor wood boilers will burn anything you throw in them, I just prefer to have my wood split, seasoned, and utilize the BTUs for heating not drying.
in my fire-pit I burned 1 cord this last year.. nice update on the boiler..
It doesn't take long to burn thru wood in the pit...that's for sure, but sure is a nice way to get rid of the scrap wood. 👍😀🍻
Do you think if you burned bigger pieces (like what I sell as boiler wood) that you wouldn’t go through so much?
I'd probably burn more actually. Big rounds that aren't split aren't fully seasoned so BTUs or heat has to be used to dry the wood down so it will burn. Those BTUs are then taken away from heat for the house so to make up for the loss more wood is needed to burn. Even a big round of dead Ash is going to be maybe 30-35% moisture...getting rid of that moisture will take heat. I don't want my boiler acting like a kiln...lol
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I am subscribing to your videos because U are intelligent enough to know this. Seems nobody can figure that out! Love watching videos where people know what their doing! Thanks!!
Thats what i like about spruce and pine, they don't leave many ashes. When i used to burn aspen i had to dump the ashes about 3 times as often. Good video Dan.
Yeah one winter I burned a bunch of Cottonwood...in the Spring I had a pile of ash almost the size of my shed...hahahaha 👍😀🍻
Im new to your channel, thanks for the information. I just bought a house in the country and the previous owner had a wood boiler so im thinking about getting one. If I keep the house temp lower, it might not burn as much correct?? I keep my house now at 68°. Thanks!
Hey hardazz912...glad ya found the Back 40 channel and community. You are correct, to a point and depending on the boiler. But generally the less heat you pull off the water the less the boiler will 'burn' and the less wood you'll use. Lots of factors come into play tho.
@@Back40Firewood ....thanks for the reply!!