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I like us more wih double big. Kessler and KP would make for a great frontline. That means though 1 of jrue or white move to the bench. I'm fine with that.
@@TheRobversion1 What are we doing here, Seriously? Jrue an Derrick, under no circumstances would be moving to the Bench, just Stop, thanks. No way Jrue Holiday is moving' to the Bench, let alone Derrick white, Chill jeezum.
@n-ciddy1678 d.whire for sure no. Its jrue. Not this season most likely, but eventually he'll get there just like Al. next season or next, next...It'll happen within the next couple of years.
Springer/Tillman + 2025/2027 firsts for Kessler/Mills + one or two second-rounders. Mills comes off the books next year, if the team wants to save more cash they can also waive him. Better to keep Queta over Tillman, X's shooting has cratered and he doesn't bring rim protection that Queta does. C's already on the hook with the starters so re-stocking from the next three drafts not as important than winning now.
Already positied a version of this trade here last month (post-dec 15). My version would be: celtics receive walker kessler, patty mills, jazz 2029 2nd jazz receive jaden springer, neemi queta, celtics 2025 1st and 2027 1st Cs could ask for an extra future 2nd but IMO this gets the deal done. This should also tweak bostons rotation structure to play more double big and 1 of jrue/d.white moves to the bench. jazz do this because the asking price for walker kessler is 2 1sts and filler. They also get kessler replacement here with neemi while only giving up a 2nd.
@@TheRobversion1you can Jaden springer makes more than walker kessler you can’t stack assets to make up the players worth if walker was worth more than 4 million than you wouldn’t be able to
@@nelsonpaz2964 of course. I know that. I didnt say anything about the contracts. Just the picks violating the rule. And yes i'd do that trade but tweak it: celtics get: walker kessler, patty mills and maybe the jazz 2029 2nd jazz get: springer, neemi, 2025 1st, 2027 1st This isnt aggregating contract as these are 2 separate trades bundled; neemi for mills, springer for kessler.
I have actually seen Walker Kessler play for Woodward Academy in Metro-Atlanta. With him at center, they won their first state title. Tennessee Coach Rick Barnes came to see him play against Oak Ridge High School, TN (Tee Higgins’ high school.)
I wouldn’t mind. It as long as it don’t effect the flow of things now like trading our bench roll players .. like Pritchard or Petersen .. I wouldn’t mind trading if they want more personnel ??? A thought but that would give KP a rest and heal a lil more and horford as well he been playing tough blocking shots and so has Kornet as well
Trading for Walker Kessler would be great. Problem with this trade idea is that the Cs aren't allowed to trade back to back 1st rounders. However, if Trader Danny would accept a package of : Springer and 2 1st round picks ( 2026 and 2030) and 2 second rounders (2025 and 2027) for Kessler, then in a separate trade but still with Utah,Tillman for 2 second rounders, it might just happen.
Glad you ain’t in charge that a lot for a guy coming off the bench why even trade second rounders when you already giving him a guard who can defend well and two first round for a bench center who makes 2.9
How can that trade possibly work? Salaries half, the match. Kessler makes less than Springer. according to you and also, you have us giving up 2 1st round picks, which have expected salaries attached to them in any trade. So maybe you should put that in the trade machine first before you suggest it.
Danny just sitting there and saying, is there a move I can make that doesn’t benefit the jazz, but really benefits the Celtics? Yeah, let me make that move.
Not really. Lead all the latest reports with the lamers offer and jazz counteroffer. The asking price for kessler is 2 1sts. We throw in neemi and that should get things done.
nah. 2 1sts is already the jazz's asking price based on negotiations wth the lamers. Lamers dont want to give up 2 1sts so far. Yes we should add more just to outbid possibly others. Add neemi and the deal is done.
Jazz Receives: Neemias Queta Jaden Springer 2025 First Round Pick 2030 First Round Pick 2027 Second Round Pick Celtics Receives: Walker Kessler Patty Mills This would make the trade very fair for both teams, trading only Jaden Springer for him will not happen even though Danny Ainge love the Celtics, we need to be fairer for them and giving them the right assets for this trade could help us in interior defense and Danny Ainge getting Neemias Queta can give him more minutes than the Celtics and having a double Center in the Celtics lineup and Jrue Holiday in the bench could help us strong our bench and also our interior defense. I hope this trade could help Brad Stevens get an idea. Just a suggestion.
@@extremelycharles i agree with that. Kessler has better IQ. But Kessler also has been starting for 3 szns, more experience than Neemie. But offensively, I really don't see why there's a need to trade for him
Jazz receive: Kristaps Porzingis Celtics receive: Walker Kessler + John Collins Jazz have been trying to get anyone to take Collins' bad contract off their hands. Danny Ainge wanted KP and offered the best deal, but KP chose the Celtics. Ainge would get his KP and be able to dump Collins. Celtics get 25 year old healthy Kessler and Collins is the perfect heir-apparent to Horford if Hoford retires after the season. And the depth this season would be amazing (Collins averaging 18ppg would be coming off the bench)
I love big al, but to say he does nothing wrong is questionable. I understand he’s old but his defense is not great, his rebounding ability is not great, and recently his biggest ability the 3 point shot hasn’t been great.
Y if he's making 4 million dollars and not really playing, you need to get someone who's going to play and help you. Because as of late they seem out of sink.
@@Justinsox39only way this happens is if Brad is actually willing to pay 2 1sts. I do think its plausible however if we get ahead of other teams. I dont mind adding the 2027 heavily protected 2nd and neemi either to sweeten the deal..
Not really. The lamers got turned down for offering JHS and a 1st. Jazz countered by asking for a 2nd 1st and the lamers walked away. That reveals the asking price for kessler. He will require 2 1sts. I'd say sweeten the pot by adding neemi (this gives them a kessler replacement) and this deal gets done. At least from the jazz POV. question is more of will Brad want to do that?
@ you don’t give away young talent like that The kid got a huge upside on the cheap for now Don’t get me wrong ,I’d love the kid in Boston Thanks for the response ,I’ll be at the game Sundays with the pelicans Going to turn on the cavs game now
@@ChrisB-xl4tq while i agree you dont give away that talent, the jazz have been trying to trade him for years. The lamers have been trying to get him for years. Theres something there thats not related to basketball. Ainge also drafted Flip. Maybe theres a non-fit culturally, schematically or personality wise. Keasler is in trade rumors to a handful of teams every year.
They can. I dont think you understand the 2nd apron correctly. They are just restricted in the contracts they take back. Springer makes 4M. kessler makes 3M. this is legal under 2nd apron rules.
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@RegardedONE We haven't played them this year yet, and they beat us on December 1st 115-111,we beat them 120-117 on November 19, not sure where you're getting your info from,ask for your money back.
Now I remember when Jordan Poole cross Payton prichard in the ground hahahahaha 😂😂😅😅 and prichard got mad and rolled his eyes hahaha can't wait until we see Boston again we're beating your ass next time we're have kuzma and Poole that next time we see Boston that beat a jokicless nuggets team!!! #wizards4life
@nelsonpaz2964 your just mad because Poole put prichard in the blender hahahahaha how's that center of yours kp hahaha can't stay healthy huh? Hahahahaha Boston done they're not repeating denver takes them out if the knicks don't in the playoffs.
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“Springer doesn’t really move the needle for me,“ but Danny Ainge will just jump at the chance to get him. Wonderful logic.
thats wha we need more centers big man, so that porzingis and kesssler would make a great defense. Defense is a great offense
I like us more wih double big. Kessler and KP would make for a great frontline. That means though 1 of jrue or white move to the bench. I'm fine with that.
@@TheRobversion1 What are we doing here, Seriously? Jrue an Derrick, under no circumstances would be moving to the Bench, just Stop, thanks. No way Jrue Holiday is moving' to the Bench, let alone Derrick white, Chill jeezum.
If we were to acquire Walker Kessler, he would come in with Al or either Payton Pritchard, OFF THE BENCH, thanks. Know ball Please, yes.
@n-ciddy1678 d.whire for sure no. Its jrue. Not this season most likely, but eventually he'll get there just like Al. next season or next, next...It'll happen within the next couple of years.
@@n-ciddy1678 sure. Thats plausible.
And i do know ball. it doesnt mean if someone has a different take than yours they dont know ball.
Why would UTA trade a promising young center for a replacement level player and late round picks?
Bcuz they bout to get cooper Flagg an they gonna go get Embiid.
Because Danny Ainge is a Celtics insider
Kessler is their starting center, he is their part of Utah's future. It is ridiculous to think we can trade for him.
Idk brad stevens has pulled off some crazy stuff lol
Walker Kessler highlights for the 2024-25 Season:
10.7 PPG, 11.2 RPG, 2.6 BPG, 71.1 FG%
Springer/Tillman + 2025/2027 firsts for Kessler/Mills + one or two second-rounders. Mills comes off the books next year, if the team wants to save more cash they can also waive him. Better to keep Queta over Tillman, X's shooting has cratered and he doesn't bring rim protection that Queta does. C's already on the hook with the starters so re-stocking from the next three drafts not as important than winning now.
Keep millstrade Tillman for assets and bring in Lonnie walker
I like this move !!
Already positied a version of this trade here last month (post-dec 15). My version would be:
celtics receive walker kessler, patty mills, jazz 2029 2nd
jazz receive jaden springer, neemi queta, celtics 2025 1st and 2027 1st
Cs could ask for an extra future 2nd but IMO this gets the deal done. This should also tweak bostons rotation structure to play more double big and 1 of jrue/d.white moves to the bench.
jazz do this because the asking price for walker kessler is 2 1sts and filler. They also get kessler replacement here with neemi while only giving up a 2nd.
Celtics trade rumors with the Utah Jazz:
Boston Celtics Receive: Walker Kessler (C)
Utah Jazz Receive: Jaden Springer, 2025 1st Round, 2026 1st Round Pick
cant trade consecutive 1sts due to the stepien rule. replace the 2026 1st with 2027 1st.
@@TheRobversion1you can Jaden springer makes more than walker kessler you can’t stack assets to make up the players worth if walker was worth more than 4 million than you wouldn’t be able to
@@nelsonpaz2964 of course. I know that. I didnt say anything about the contracts. Just the picks violating the rule.
And yes i'd do that trade but tweak it:
celtics get: walker kessler, patty mills and maybe the jazz 2029 2nd
jazz get: springer, neemi, 2025 1st, 2027 1st
This isnt aggregating contract as these are 2 separate trades bundled; neemi for mills, springer for kessler.
Celtics can't trade B2B 1sts because of Stepien rule right?
I think X will be ok for trading, Queta is young and have great future
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Nah, Neemias is developing well. He'll be a beast for 10 minutes per game during the playoff run.
Stop it they already said they aren’t trading him
I have actually seen Walker Kessler play for Woodward Academy in Metro-Atlanta. With him at center, they won their first state title. Tennessee Coach Rick Barnes came to see him play against Oak Ridge High School, TN (Tee Higgins’ high school.)
I wouldn’t mind. It as long as it don’t effect the flow of things now like trading our bench roll players .. like Pritchard or Petersen .. I wouldn’t mind trading if they want more personnel ??? A thought but that would give KP a rest and heal a lil more and horford as well he been playing tough blocking shots and so has Kornet as well
I think we should be getting Tillman ready to play the 5 if anything happens to KP or Horford. We can lose the 5 out option.
Walker Kessler would be a fire pick up I think we should try to make a play when al retires that freed up cap space will be sexy
Kessler would be a great addition even though he is only 6 10 compared to Porzingas 7 2.
Ttrading Springer for Kessler creates a logjam at the center position.
Let’s Go C’s !!!!
That was very good a rim protector
Trading for Walker Kessler would be great. Problem with this trade idea is that the Cs aren't allowed to trade back to back 1st rounders. However, if Trader Danny would accept a package of : Springer and 2 1st round picks ( 2026 and 2030) and 2 second rounders (2025 and 2027) for Kessler, then in a separate trade but still with Utah,Tillman for 2 second rounders, it might just happen.
Glad you ain’t in charge that a lot for a guy coming off the bench why even trade second rounders when you already giving him a guard who can defend well and two first round for a bench center who makes 2.9
@@nelsonpaz2964Yeah terrible to trade away new assets in the years you’ll need em 😂
How can that trade possibly work? Salaries half, the match. Kessler makes less than Springer. according to you and also, you have us giving up 2 1st round picks, which have expected salaries attached to them in any trade. So maybe you should put that in the trade machine first before you suggest it.
Would be a good move,But one problem,Most of the Celtics are under big Contracts,other teams would have to chip in with their Contracts!
Danny just sitting there and saying, is there a move I can make that doesn’t benefit the jazz, but really benefits the Celtics? Yeah, let me make that move.
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I like that trade for WK!!!!
Danny likes draft picks give him some picks
jazz said they not trading kessler
No way. Too good to be true
Not really. Lead all the latest reports with the lamers offer and jazz counteroffer.
The asking price for kessler is 2 1sts. We throw in neemi and that should get things done.
Idk Allie I don’t think the Jazz would do that we’d have to throw in more.
nah. 2 1sts is already the jazz's asking price based on negotiations wth the lamers. Lamers dont want to give up 2 1sts so far.
Yes we should add more just to outbid possibly others. Add neemi and the deal is done.
If a Kessler trade don't work, there's Herr Theis. Straight swap with Springer or X-man!!
Jazz Receives:
Neemias Queta
Jaden Springer
2025 First Round Pick
2030 First Round Pick
2027 Second Round Pick
Celtics Receives:
Walker Kessler
Patty Mills
This would make the trade very fair for both teams, trading only Jaden Springer for him will not happen even though Danny Ainge love the Celtics, we need to be fairer for them and giving them the right assets for this trade could help us in interior defense and Danny Ainge getting Neemias Queta can give him more minutes than the Celtics and having a double Center in the Celtics lineup and Jrue Holiday in the bench could help us strong our bench and also our interior defense. I hope this trade could help Brad Stevens get an idea. Just a suggestion.
I mean what does Kessler do that Neemie can't? Better IQ?
Neemie is good in spurts, Kessler is a lot more consistent.
@@extremelycharles i agree with that. Kessler has better IQ. But Kessler also has been starting for 3 szns, more experience than Neemie. But offensively, I really don't see why there's a need to trade for him
@JoeCupoff just consistency. Neemie will get you 12 and 12 one game, and then 2 and 2 5 games in a row. Kessler will get you 12 and 12 every game.
if anyone could pull this off, its Trader Brad
Do you really think Danny is trading Kessler for Jayden? Lol
If we could?
Trade Springer and Queta for Kessler.
Then try and grab Lonnie Walker from Europe too.
The Jazz wouldn't want to do the trade, player.
I agree. Trade Tillman.
Upcoming Boston Celtics free agents:
Jaden Springer
Al Horford
Luke Kornet
Y'all are going to lose kornet in free agency's
Trade Springer.
Jazz receive: Kristaps Porzingis
Celtics receive: Walker Kessler + John Collins
Jazz have been trying to get anyone to take Collins' bad contract off their hands. Danny Ainge wanted KP and offered the best deal, but KP chose the Celtics. Ainge would get his KP and be able to dump Collins. Celtics get 25 year old healthy Kessler and Collins is the perfect heir-apparent to Horford if Hoford retires after the season. And the depth this season would be amazing (Collins averaging 18ppg would be coming off the bench)
I love big al, but to say he does nothing wrong is questionable. I understand he’s old but his defense is not great, his rebounding ability is not great, and recently his biggest ability the 3 point shot hasn’t been great.
"T"
Y if he's making 4 million dollars and not really playing, you need to get someone who's going to play and help you. Because as of late they seem out of sink.
Allie !!!
Trade springer
Trade Springer & X-man & include Peterson to sweeten the deal.
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Kornet needs to play like a 7’2 player. Mazzula terrible at developing young players.
If you move, the ball will find you.
Walker kessler or Tounami Camara
50 K by June lfg.
But they are negotiating with danny....you all know about danny ...
Yeah but Danny will always bleed green. Remember how easily we got Garnet from Mchale!! I don’t think it’s happening though.
@@Justinsox39only way this happens is if Brad is actually willing to pay 2 1sts.
I do think its plausible however if we get ahead of other teams. I dont mind adding the 2027 heavily protected 2nd and neemi either to sweeten the deal..
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"T" absolutely he taking up space and money and don’t play I’m sure he loving it collecting that money for 10 min a week or maybe 30 a month a joke
'WK'
"T" absolutely he taking up space and money and don’t play I’m sure he living it collecting that money for 10 min a week or maybe 30 a month a joke
Should Boston trade Jaden Springer? Type ‘T’ for Trade Type ‘K’ for Keep
T- Trade Jaden Springer 💯, he’s not doing anything for us this season 💯
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Stop teasing us,this isn't happening
lol chat sports shoudl be called clickback and bad take sports.
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I would trade Luke nemi springer for him and two picks
Not happening
Guess who doesn't need or want to make any trades????
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No way this is happening
You have a better chance of seeing trump and Obama having dinner together lol
Then this trade
Not really. The lamers got turned down for offering JHS and a 1st. Jazz countered by asking for a 2nd 1st and the lamers walked away.
That reveals the asking price for kessler. He will require 2 1sts.
I'd say sweeten the pot by adding neemi (this gives them a kessler replacement) and this deal gets done. At least from the jazz POV. question is more of will Brad want to do that?
@ you don’t give away young talent like that
The kid got a huge upside on the cheap for now
Don’t get me wrong ,I’d love the kid in Boston
Thanks for the response ,I’ll be at the game Sundays with the pelicans
Going to turn on the cavs game now
@@ChrisB-xl4tq while i agree you dont give away that talent, the jazz have been trying to trade him for years. The lamers have been trying to get him for years. Theres something there thats not related to basketball. Ainge also drafted Flip. Maybe theres a non-fit culturally, schematically or personality wise. Keasler is in trade rumors to a handful of teams every year.
Celtics can’t make any trades over second apron please report with knowledge of that
They can. I dont think you understand the 2nd apron correctly. They are just restricted in the contracts they take back.
Springer makes 4M. kessler makes 3M. this is legal under 2nd apron rules.
Doesn't matter boston will lose to the cavs or thunder
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The Cavs are going to win it this year,they and the Thunder,are the only complete teams,so we may as well trade some.
Celtics will repeat
@DSJonesWriter No they won't,they way are going now, they won't beat the Cavs.
@@Andy_M986yet we’ve beaten the Cavs both times we played this year 🤷♂️
@RegardedONE We haven't played them this year yet, and they beat us on December 1st 115-111,we beat them 120-117 on November 19, not sure where you're getting your info from,ask for your money back.
@ Year=Season. We’ll see what happens in February 💪
Now I remember when Jordan Poole cross Payton prichard in the ground hahahahaha 😂😂😅😅 and prichard got mad and rolled his eyes hahaha can't wait until we see Boston again we're beating your ass next time we're have kuzma and Poole that next time we see Boston that beat a jokicless nuggets team!!! #wizards4life
Yea and then he missed so congrats to pool he just made it to shaqtin a fool
@nelsonpaz2964 your just mad because Poole put prichard in the blender hahahahaha how's that center of yours kp hahaha can't stay healthy huh? Hahahahaha Boston done they're not repeating denver takes them out if the knicks don't in the playoffs.
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