You bet!! I’m anxious to see what’s inside. As soon as we can get it in the shop we will start tearing into it. May move it this weekend. Thanks for watching and commenting!
I’m afraid it gonna be a liner to be honest. And I think it will have to be bored and sleeved with a liner. Cuz these were cast in cylinders from what I gather!
You’ve got the price of the tractor plus the starter . Now is as cheap as it going to be . Think very hard about digging into a tired , 😅broken old machine
@@TKM1951 my buddy has 5-600 acres he has to keep hogged and there is a lot of steep ground here in the ozark mountains. It’s getting an engine rebuild for sure. I see what you’re saying but the price was right! It’s got a lot of hogging to do!
I think if we get the fuel system tightened up it’s going to be the same with this machine as well. Had been sitting a while and the lift pump was dripping so it took a bit of cranking to get the fuel pressure. After that it fired good. Thanks for watching and thanks for the comment!
Yeah we will be looking for that. It happened just all of a sudden so we are hoping for an oil cooler or something but won’t know ow till we can get it in the shop. Getting close though! Thanks for watching and thanks for the comment!
Under the rocker cover there are freeze plugs. You should check if they are not rusted trough. and these ford engines do have problems with the cilinder sleeves if there is a hole in there it could leak coolant into the engine oil, i dont think that is the case because it would leak slowly into the oil
For me to dump 12 gal of coolant into this tractor and it not fill up makes me think there has to be a huge opening somewhere for coolant to run into the oil pan. A split sleeve would do that for sure. Coming straight from the water jacket into the cylinder, if below the piston, or piston broken or has a hole, it could do that pretty easily. We are going to be towing it into the shop on the next vid. There is a tractor in the shop that is split right now so not sure on time frame.
It could be a crack sleeve. It could be a blown head gasket. It could be that if it’s a wet sleeve motor it could be the seals is out of the sleeves. There’s a lot that it could be hooked on with another big four-wheel-drive and I bought it to the shop and find out what’s going onmighty in the path and have two men and a boy to turn it. All I can say is have fun be safe and may God bless the godly redneck, machinist mechanic, equipment, driver, etc. etc..
Thank you. The sleeves are made into the block. So it will have to be machined to have liners installed. Probably the route this is gonna go. Thanks for watching and thank you for the comment!
I’m sure we will need one. Hope all is available.Figuring on finding the major issue and going from there. Been tearing it down. Thanks for the comment and thanks for watching!
You need to check the oil level in the injection pump. It's an inline pump and needs engine oil in it for lubrication. There's a plug on the bottom to drain it. A plug on the side to check the oil level and a BIG plug on top to fill it. All at the front of the pump. Best thing you could do is drain it and refill it.
I’m sure we will do that. Engine coming out after this one. As soon as we can get it into the shop we will be back on it. Thanks for watching and thanks for the comment! Great info
@@lockburner2000 this one does have an oil fill right on top of the injection pump housing. I don’t know if that all the engine oil goes in there or if it’s just for the pump. But I’m sure we will be finding out real quick. Thanks for the comment and thanks for watching!!
@@michaeldahlke8744 yuck. Glad it’s not my wallet. He’s gonna have to rebuild this one or find one for sale I’m sure. I’m going to try and be as much a part of it as I can. Road grader and tractor in the shop right now. Hard to get too deep into it yet.
Yeah some engine honey and all will be fine lol. My father in law put a bunch in his bucket truck and it wouldn’t crank in the winter with 2 new batteries. Stuff is thick
It could just be the oil cooler. I think that is more likely because the oil poured into the crank case. Hopefully you can do a quick inframe and your as good as new.
I have the same tractor and it doesn't sound like that. You need to check the injectors because one is not working and the pump timing. And the knock is a dead cylinder not hitting
Big problems aside I just think there is a fuel or injector problem. Might needed to crack nuts to bleed the air, I don't think it was hitting on them all this time. Last video I remember it running good.
@@poorfarm-nn6ii I'd say from what people have commented and the high use ablity of this tractor, fix it right and have it a long time. Might switch to cat elc coolant so it doesn't eat liners ever again
@@poorfarm-nn6ii I put it in everything (after a flush) as my local parts place has 50/50 for $10. I might even throw it in my minivan I'll have to look it up haha. Edit yes cat elc is mixed fleet and can go in everything just requires a flush.
Well that sucks he certainly owns the problem. from my understanding when those blocks go porous it's either eaten a pin hole through the cylinder wall or somewhere by the bottom of the block just above where the cam shaft is, there is no wet sleeve like a 4020 Deere has for example. The bore on this Ford is machined out and the sleeve is press fitted to fix the porous cylinder wall if thats the problem. if it isn't leaking there and the bore is worn anyway don't cheap out and over bore for bigger pistons, bore and sleeve it back standard as they can nearly be at the leaking point and it goes after fitting the bigger pistons without the repair sleeve installed. I've heard guys say on a 0000 series ford if they go above the camshaft it's possible to find the hole drill it out and fit a threaded pipe plug to seal it. If that was mine, i'd be pulling the rocker cover and the oil pan to try find the leak, also not sure if it has an oil cooler that could dump coolant in the oil pan. I've never owned or fixed Ford tractors that big, but know guys that have or dealt with fixing them more . I was offered an 8630 recently with a broken block thats a kit of parts, I turned it down as I don't know how good the rest of the tractor is without it running. It's a powershift transmission in it, and expensive to find and fix that if it's not right after the motor issues fixed. looking forward to more on this old girl, Take care guys.
The shop I point out in the video belongs to our buddy that owns a local machine and welding shop in town that used to be in his shop there in the video. I figure we will be machine out the old cylinder and fitting new ones. Thanks for all the info! I appreciate you watching and taking the time to comment! We will move forward as soon as the last tractor gets out of the shop.
@@poorfarm-nn6ii Thanks for the reply Glad to hear you got access to the machines and guy to help with it, Lots of us from the U.k know about these problems and the fixes. It's a little different here in Canada and guys walk into these problems trying to fix them without to much experience. Yeah machine shops say other motors can be bored over and we'll do this, but these fords are the only ones I've really heard of go porous shortly or right after.
@@super6954 yeah I hear it’s a common problem. There is a tractor split in half in the shop right now so we will probably be in after that. His dozer is down too. Cat D5 high track got rain in the exhaust and ruined the cylinders so he’s rebuilding it as well. I may have to go for a tour vid when we move the tw-25 down there.
Great video, I am sorry that I comment bad in the previous video, I was so sure it is lack of battery power, you was right and after this video I really think your friend bought a great tractor, may be just an in-frame rebuild and you have an awesome tractor, thanks for the video and your calm handling bad comments👌👍👍
Good going , getting the FORD tw 25 running , would be interesting to see were the oil is coming from . Will be good when the engine is fixed , rebuilt . the owner will have a good solid , powerfull tractor .
Hey guys- I have some experience with these Fords. I’ve got an 8830 that’s still used on our farm. Most likely scenario is the coolant was not changed regularly and conditioner added as needed. These 401’s are a parent bore, and quite notorious for pitting of the cylinders. After watching this - I think - you will need to overbore the block and sleeve the cylinders .
That is what we were thinking as well. But would this happen just all of a sudden? Or could it be an oil cooler failed? Good chance we are in for a rebuild anyway given the circumstances. This machine was running last summer and just spit all the oil and coolant out just like it did in the video.
There’s a line going to the front oil cooler in front of the radiator that might have blown just from over pressure bc of the antifreeze in the oil. My guess is at some point it hydrolocked bc of the pitting and bent a rod, causing the noise your hearing while running. May have cracked something on the block, but my guess is it’s just over pressure. The pitting when the tractor sits a long time dries out, then rusts out. This will cause big enough holes that when you filled the radiator it just went straight into the crank. These Fords are good simple tractors. I wouldn’t hesitate to rebuild her.
@@poorfarm-nn6ii that is a lot of oil for just porous block. If it was the oil cooler, it might be a line going to it. I'm sure you'll find it when you start looking where the oil came from.
You have a rod knocking. Do not keeping starting it if you don’t want too loose the engine.
Love the TW. One of my all time faves. I hope to see this TW repaired, as the knocking is pretty bad.
You and me both! Thanks for the comment and thanks for watching!!
Well the way it was hammering you were going to open it anyway . Good luck , we’ll be watching for progress . 👍
You bet!! I’m anxious to see what’s inside. As soon as we can get it in the shop we will start tearing into it. May move it this weekend. Thanks for watching and commenting!
I enjoyed your video me and my dad used to work on Ford t,
Tractors be for he passed away
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Yup, that thing was running on borrowed time. Cool fixer upper though…😀
Yeah we gonna get it in the shop for a rebuild real soon!
If you rebuild the engine you should put repair sleeves in it because the water jacket is too thin to bore.
That’s the plan! Thanks for watching and thanks for the comment!
Well, dang! That ain't what you want. Looks like an in frame rebuild to me. Won't be bad though, those old tractors were easy to work on.
I’m afraid it gonna be a liner to be honest. And I think it will have to be bored and sleeved with a liner. Cuz these were cast in cylinders from what I gather!
You’ve got the price of the tractor plus the starter . Now is as cheap as it going to be . Think very hard about digging into a tired , 😅broken old machine
@@TKM1951 my buddy has 5-600 acres he has to keep hogged and there is a lot of steep ground here in the ozark mountains. It’s getting an engine rebuild for sure. I see what you’re saying but the price was right! It’s got a lot of hogging to do!
I hate ford trucks but their tractors were unbeatable. Have a 1984 6610 still original engine. Cranks everyday and gets the job done. No ether ever.
I think if we get the fuel system tightened up it’s going to be the same with this machine as well. Had been sitting a while and the lift pump was dripping so it took a bit of cranking to get the fuel pressure. After that it fired good. Thanks for watching and thanks for the comment!
Could be a pourus block, fords are notorious for it
Yeah we will be looking for that. It happened just all of a sudden so we are hoping for an oil cooler or something but won’t know ow till we can get it in the shop. Getting close though! Thanks for watching and thanks for the comment!
Under the rocker cover there are freeze plugs. You should check if they are not rusted trough. and these ford engines do have problems with the cilinder sleeves if there is a hole in there it could leak coolant into the engine oil, i dont think that is the case because it would leak slowly into the oil
For me to dump 12 gal of coolant into this tractor and it not fill up makes me think there has to be a huge opening somewhere for coolant to run into the oil pan. A split sleeve would do that for sure. Coming straight from the water jacket into the cylinder, if below the piston, or piston broken or has a hole, it could do that pretty easily. We are going to be towing it into the shop on the next vid. There is a tractor in the shop that is split right now so not sure on time frame.
Thanks for watching and thanks for the great comment!!
Broken liner or head gasket...
Or oil cooler. Thanks for watching and thanks for the comment! I sure appreciate it. We will see what it is soon!
It could be a crack sleeve. It could be a blown head gasket. It could be that if it’s a wet sleeve motor it could be the seals is out of the sleeves. There’s a lot that it could be hooked on with another big four-wheel-drive and I bought it to the shop and find out what’s going onmighty in the path and have two men and a boy to turn it. All I can say is have fun be safe and may God bless the godly redneck, machinist mechanic, equipment, driver, etc. etc..
Thank you. The sleeves are made into the block. So it will have to be machined to have liners installed. Probably the route this is gonna go. Thanks for watching and thank you for the comment!
You need to pull the valve cover and check the push rods sounds like one is off.
I think we have a whole cylinder down! Thanks for watching and commenting!
Can parts be located for these still. It figures on a head for starts .
I’m sure we will need one. Hope all is available.Figuring on finding the major issue and going from there. Been tearing it down. Thanks for the comment and thanks for watching!
It ain't that damn old!
hey, you don't need to do an oil undercoating lol
Just gonna send it lol!
Been working on it today! Thanks for watching and thanks for commenting!
You need to check the oil level in the injection pump. It's an inline pump and needs engine oil in it for lubrication. There's a plug on the bottom to drain it. A plug on the side to check the oil level and a BIG plug on top to fill it. All at the front of the pump. Best thing you could do is drain it and refill it.
I’m sure we will do that. Engine coming out after this one. As soon as we can get it into the shop we will be back on it. Thanks for watching and thanks for the comment! Great info
Pretty sure the tw series were lubed with the engine not like a 7700 that you would need to do that with.
@@lockburner2000 this one does have an oil fill right on top of the injection pump housing. I don’t know if that all the engine oil goes in there or if it’s just for the pump. But I’m sure we will be finding out real quick. Thanks for the comment and thanks for watching!!
Can of engine restore
Let’s do it!!
I have a completely rebuilt motor for that tractor
Really!! That’s awesome! We started tearing this one apart today. Just pulling sheet metal, exhaust etc.
Just to rebuild that motor it will cost around 7000
Just let me know if you’re interested in the motor or any other parts for it
@@michaeldahlke8744 yuck. Glad it’s not my wallet. He’s gonna have to rebuild this one or find one for sale I’m sure. I’m going to try and be as much a part of it as I can. Road grader and tractor in the shop right now. Hard to get too deep into it yet.
@@michaeldahlke8744 where is it located? What are you looking to get out of it? I can always pass the info along! Thanks for hitting me up.
there is your answer tow it to workshop ,strip her down fix it up you will have abeast
Yeah ole waylon never skipped a beat. He’s still excited to have the tractor and to get it going again! Thanks for watching and thanks for commenting!
Owch
It’s a big ole tractor! We are excited to get it going again! Thanks for the comment!
It's a FORD. Scrap it, and do the world a favour.
I like these old tractors! Can’t wait to see it rolling again. Thanks for watching and thanks for the comment!!
FORD = FOUND ON ROAD DEAD
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What did u do later, fix or nothing
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Play me some Lucas in it
Yeah some engine honey and all will be fine lol. My father in law put a bunch in his bucket truck and it wouldn’t crank in the winter with 2 new batteries. Stuff is thick
It could just be the oil cooler. I think that is more likely because the oil poured into the crank case. Hopefully you can do a quick inframe and your as good as new.
We been working on tearing it down today. Would be kewl to find it’s not as bad as we expect. Thanks for watching and thanks for the comment!
I have the same tractor and it doesn't sound like that. You need to check the injectors because one is not working and the pump timing. And the knock is a dead cylinder not hitting
The knock is a whole lot. Check out some of the other vids on it. More to come. Thanks for watching and thanks for the comments!
There’s a sleeve rotten out normal white ford
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Big problems aside I just think there is a fuel or injector problem. Might needed to crack nuts to bleed the air, I don't think it was hitting on them all this time. Last video I remember it running good.
Yeah she’s dead. Gonna get it in the shop and rebuild it soon we hope!
@@poorfarm-nn6ii I'd say from what people have commented and the high use ablity of this tractor, fix it right and have it a long time. Might switch to cat elc coolant so it doesn't eat liners ever again
@diesellivesmatter awesome! I’ll look into that. Cat got the pink stuff! I’ve used a bunch of it.
@@poorfarm-nn6ii I put it in everything (after a flush) as my local parts place has 50/50 for $10. I might even throw it in my minivan I'll have to look it up haha. Edit yes cat elc is mixed fleet and can go in everything just requires a flush.
Regardless its gonna need a full rebuild
Nah we gonna run just like this!! Thanks for the comment lol.
Well that sucks he certainly owns the problem. from my understanding when those blocks go porous it's either eaten a pin hole through the cylinder wall or somewhere by the bottom of the block just above where the cam shaft is, there is no wet sleeve like a 4020 Deere has for example. The bore on this Ford is machined out and the sleeve is press fitted to fix the porous cylinder wall if thats the problem. if it isn't leaking there and the bore is worn anyway don't cheap out and over bore for bigger pistons, bore and sleeve it back standard as they can nearly be at the leaking point and it goes after fitting the bigger pistons without the repair sleeve installed.
I've heard guys say on a 0000 series ford if they go above the camshaft it's possible to find the hole drill it out and fit a threaded pipe plug to seal it. If that was mine, i'd be pulling the rocker cover and the oil pan to try find the leak, also not sure if it has an oil cooler that could dump coolant in the oil pan. I've never owned or fixed Ford tractors that big, but know guys that have or dealt with fixing them more . I was offered an 8630 recently with a broken block thats a kit of parts, I turned it down as I don't know how good the rest of the tractor is without it running. It's a powershift transmission in it, and expensive to find and fix that if it's not right after the motor issues fixed. looking forward to more on this old girl, Take care guys.
The shop I point out in the video belongs to our buddy that owns a local machine and welding shop in town that used to be in his shop there in the video. I figure we will be machine out the old cylinder and fitting new ones. Thanks for all the info! I appreciate you watching and taking the time to comment! We will move forward as soon as the last tractor gets out of the shop.
@@poorfarm-nn6ii Thanks for the reply Glad to hear you got access to the machines and guy to help with it, Lots of us from the U.k know about these problems and the fixes. It's a little different here in Canada and guys walk into these problems trying to fix them without to much experience. Yeah machine shops say other motors can be bored over and we'll do this, but these fords are the only ones I've really heard of go porous shortly or right after.
@@super6954 yeah I hear it’s a common problem. There is a tractor split in half in the shop right now so we will probably be in after that. His dozer is down too. Cat D5 high track got rain in the exhaust and ruined the cylinders so he’s rebuilding it as well. I may have to go for a tour vid when we move the tw-25 down there.
Great video, I am sorry that I comment bad in the previous video, I was so sure it is lack of battery power, you was right and after this video I really think your friend bought a great tractor, may be just an in-frame rebuild and you have an awesome tractor, thanks for the video and your calm handling bad comments👌👍👍
No worries. I appreciate you watching and commenting. Keep it up!
Good going , getting the FORD tw 25 running , would be interesting to see were the oil is coming from . Will be good when the engine is fixed , rebuilt . the owner will have a good solid , powerfull tractor .
Awesome comment!! Thanks for watching!!
Hey guys- I have some experience with these Fords. I’ve got an 8830 that’s still used on our farm. Most likely scenario is the coolant was not changed regularly and conditioner added as needed. These 401’s are a parent bore, and quite notorious for pitting of the cylinders. After watching this - I think - you will need to overbore the block and sleeve the cylinders .
That is what we were thinking as well. But would this happen just all of a sudden? Or could it be an oil cooler failed? Good chance we are in for a rebuild anyway given the circumstances. This machine was running last summer and just spit all the oil and coolant out just like it did in the video.
There’s a line going to the front oil cooler in front of the radiator that might have blown just from over pressure bc of the antifreeze in the oil. My guess is at some point it hydrolocked bc of the pitting and bent a rod, causing the noise your hearing while running. May have cracked something on the block, but my guess is it’s just over pressure. The pitting when the tractor sits a long time dries out, then rusts out. This will cause big enough holes that when you filled the radiator it just went straight into the crank. These Fords are good simple tractors. I wouldn’t hesitate to rebuild her.
Ether junked the engine breaks rings,pistons,rod bearings.
Well not this time. Thanks for watching and thanks for the comment!!
lovely old tractor well worth repairing good luck with the repair
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Bummer man. Hopefully that was just a fuel knock, and a busted oil cooler. I'll be watching for an update.
We just got into it yesterday. We will see what we find.
What would be the best way to test for busted oil cooler? These cylinders were known for going porous as well.
@@poorfarm-nn6ii that is a lot of oil for just porous block. If it was the oil cooler, it might be a line going to it. I'm sure you'll find it when you start looking where the oil came from.
Very true. I’m thinking the same thing. Never could fill the radiator.
Nice video.
Thanks for watching and thanks for the comment. I really appreciate it!!
That a big tractor
Yeah there is plenty of steel there for sure! I’ll be excited to see it running again! Thanks for watching and thanks for the comments!
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