You can order directly from me on Facebook Donna. Should have pics and prices on my Facebook page tonight or tomorrow. (Dale Fredricks Horsemanship or Dale Fredricks)
@@JackMantis36 Hi Jack. I make them up to order. $150 with the graduating spots on cheeks. $175 for spots on cheeks and spots on earpieces. $10 shipping. I can have you one in 6 weeks or less. Thanks for your interest.
So concerned about the ear loops and use these harsh raiser bits. Don't add up. Wouldn't a hackamore do, people are trying to get away from these harsher things these days and going without bits. Takes a little more training but your horse will be a better friend. I used harsher methods 45 years ago. Never used spurs or raiser bits though. Treat a horse mean and you get a mean horse. I could talk all day on this subject. Never saw a horse that was raunchy that hadn't first gotten harsh treatment. I do like your Ideas about flatter transition points though. Art is good too. A smart horse can learn anything you want to teach it and it takes patience and constant practice plus a good eye to read what he's thinking. I've rode horses that had supposedly gone saddle bad. They were just trying to tell whoever they were no longer going to take any more shit. I know not everybody is going to buy that Idea as long traditions have a long time to shake. The only horses I have seen that couldn't be rehabilitated when autopsied had brain cancer or another brain disease.
Well Keith, on the rare occasion that I get a negative comment such as yours, I usually just ignore it. You however caught me on a day when I feel like responding. First of all, thanks for watching our video. You seem to me like a person whose mind is made up and that's that. I think if we're going to talk about this, you need to establish who you are. What's your real name and your horse experience? Do you have any film of what you're able to do with your horses? Please show us how you're able to train a horse better than a method that uses bits. Next, please watch all our videos and decide if I am using inhumane methods. Then I would like you to study the anatomy of a horse's mouth. Take particular note of the long palette (the roof of the horse's mouth) The higher port bits, if used with a curb strap that is not so loose that it allows the port to rotate in the horse's mouth actually distributes the pressure over more area in the horse's mouth. These higher port bits are not used on a horse until he has been thoroughly trained in a hackamore and or snaffle. As for being concerned about the earpieces being uncomfortable to a horse- I take special care that my horses when doing everything correctly are not being punished by myself or my equipment in any way. This does not mean that the horse is never going to receive discomfort or pain during the training process. It means when he's doing everything right, I want him to be as comfortable and happy in his job as possible. I look forward to seeing videos of your training methods and results. Sincerely; Dale Fredricks
Dale thanks for a call back, I've been around horses since I was small I then helped look after 40 or so horses. I've I found it easier to train them when there are a lot of them. They were trail ride/rental horses and as they were being ridden continuously and I guess they all expected to be ridden fairly early on. I'm too old now to know how or to even care about making you tube videos. I guess I judged you too soon as I later checked out your videos and found you showing hackamore skills. I lived in Alberta 40 years or so and have seen the best and worst of cowboys. The rental place I worked at though was the Kootenay mountains and terrain makes a big difference as to what kind of hazards you can find. I learned most in Alberta from Cree first nations people. They were great cowboys. Right now I work at a horse rescue and seeing The horrors I do, I guess that's got my hackles up. We get a lot of horses that have been starved, neglected, abused which we try to nourish back to health, train so they can be ridden and then sold. Those that are blind, old or have get to live out their days in peace( for the most part as we sometimes have trouble with bears or one gets gored by a moose). I'm in my last quarter and I'm in a long lived family. I actually want to apologise as when I looked at a few more videos you're a lot like me. I've worked with horses that were made snotty by crazy owners and horses that were smart and eager to learn from the outset. My pet peeve is young girls who buy horses without a thought as to how you are going to feed board care for the animal let alone anything else. They listen to everyone criticize and eventually go from place to place cause they can't pay and the horse winds up starved and the horse winds up at the rescue. I can talk about horses I've worked with for a month of Sundays. My sister calls my method tough but fair. When she was young Dad bought her a horse and she's been into dressage for most of her life. Though her first horse was a natural herder just did that for his own enjoyment and she rode western then. Most of her horses were trained first now she has one she bought because "it has such pretty gates". I Don't get to see her much but That is the spookingest horse I ever saw. She has had it 8 or so years and takes it from trainer to trainer. I can see how fearful she is of the thing. I live in a different province so I can't help her. The horse is very high strung naturally. But she turns in flight every time it acts up 'cause she never had an untrained or spooky horse before. I wonder if she ever rode the thing. She has had a good deal of lessons her whole life which like mine is ebbing, yet in all that time never learned horse sense. I on the other hand have worked with all kinds of horses with no formal training but continual experience and they do whatever I want. I learned young not to be bluffed take no guff read the animal. I always liked an extra long set of reins. A good slap on the but sometimes gets the right attention, The only set of spurs I own are strictly for show. Anyway I could talk horses I've known night and day. I've seen cowboys rip their poor horse up with spurs and wrestle them to the ground like a steer at a rodeo have them stretched with ropes from both ends and then wonder why that fella wants to kick, bite buck. Anyway enough talk I do apologise as I got off talking before I saw more of what you are about. Keith McLellan.
@@777theprophet Thanks Keith for your reply and for taking the time to watch some more of our videos. Keep up the good work with the horse rescue. God bless you and best wishes for the upcoming holidays. (I guess you've allready had Thanksgiving up there, right?)
Very nice
Nice, no lumps or bumps with plenty of space. It always irritated me if it was uncomfortable for horses as well.
Thanks Lorenzo
So well explained. Thank you Dale.
Thank you Donna!
Can't wait for this to go up, I'd love one!
Hi Paulina, I have some made up right now. You can contact me on Facebook for details
Tell us where we can order? I have lots of people that would LOVE that. Great idea.
You can order directly from me on Facebook Donna. Should have pics and prices on my Facebook page tonight or tomorrow. (Dale Fredricks Horsemanship or Dale Fredricks)
@@dalefredricks6546 hi Dale are these still available a year later, and do you ship?
@@JackMantis36 Hi Jack. I make them up to order. $150 with the graduating spots on cheeks. $175 for spots on cheeks and spots on earpieces. $10 shipping. I can have you one in 6 weeks or less. Thanks for your interest.
@@dalefredricks6546 sending you an email now for order.
Where can I buy one? This would be perfect for my little guy!
I make them Caitlin, but don't have any made up right now and not sure when I'll make more.
@@dalefredricks6546 please let me know if you do, it’s a terrific idea!
@@caitlinfairlee608 Thanks Caitlin- will do
So concerned about the ear loops and use these harsh raiser bits. Don't add up. Wouldn't a hackamore do, people are trying to get away from these harsher things these days and going without bits. Takes a little more training but your horse will be a better friend. I used harsher methods 45 years ago. Never used spurs or raiser bits though. Treat a horse mean and you get a mean horse. I could talk all day on this subject. Never saw a horse that was raunchy that hadn't first gotten harsh treatment. I do like your Ideas about flatter transition points though. Art is good too. A smart horse can learn anything you want to teach it and it takes patience and constant practice plus a good eye to read what he's thinking. I've rode horses that had supposedly gone saddle bad. They were just trying to tell whoever they were no longer going to take any more shit. I know not everybody is going to buy that Idea as long traditions have a long time to shake. The only horses I have seen that couldn't be rehabilitated when autopsied had brain cancer or another brain disease.
Well Keith, on the rare occasion that I get a negative comment such as yours, I usually just ignore it. You however caught me on a day when I feel like responding. First of all, thanks for watching our video. You seem to me like a person whose mind is made up and that's that. I think if we're going to talk about this, you need to establish who you are. What's your real name and your horse experience? Do you have any film of what you're able to do with your horses? Please show us how you're able to train a horse better than a method that uses bits. Next, please watch all our videos and decide if I am using inhumane methods. Then I would like you to study the anatomy of a horse's mouth. Take particular note of the long palette (the roof of the horse's mouth) The higher port bits, if used with a curb strap that is not so loose that it allows the port to rotate in the horse's mouth actually distributes the pressure over more area in the horse's mouth. These higher port bits are not used on a horse until he has been thoroughly trained in a hackamore and or snaffle. As for being concerned about the earpieces being uncomfortable to a horse- I take special care that my horses when doing everything correctly are not being punished by myself or my equipment in any way. This does not mean that the horse is never going to receive discomfort or pain during the training process. It means when he's doing everything right, I want him to be as comfortable and happy in his job as possible. I look forward to seeing videos of your training methods and results. Sincerely; Dale Fredricks
Dale thanks for a call back, I've been around horses since I was small I then helped look after 40 or so horses. I've I found it easier to train them when there are a lot of them. They were trail ride/rental horses and as they were being ridden continuously and I guess they all expected to be ridden fairly early on. I'm too old now to know how or to even care about making you tube videos. I guess I judged you too soon as I later checked out your videos and found you showing hackamore skills. I lived in Alberta 40 years or so and have seen the best and worst of cowboys. The rental place I worked at though was the Kootenay mountains and terrain makes a big difference as to what kind of hazards you can find. I learned most in Alberta from Cree first nations people. They were great cowboys. Right now I work at a horse rescue and seeing The horrors I do, I guess that's got my hackles up. We get a lot of horses that have been starved, neglected, abused which we try to nourish back to health, train so they can be ridden and then sold. Those that are blind, old or have get to live out their days in peace( for the most part as we sometimes have trouble with bears or one gets gored by a moose). I'm in my last quarter and I'm in a long lived family. I actually want to apologise as when I looked at a few more videos you're a lot like me. I've worked with horses that were made snotty by crazy owners and horses that were smart and eager to learn from the outset. My pet peeve is young girls who buy horses without a thought as to how you are going to feed board care for the animal let alone anything else. They listen to everyone criticize and eventually go from place to place cause they can't pay and the horse winds up starved and the horse winds up at the rescue. I can talk about horses I've worked with for a month of Sundays. My sister calls my method tough but fair. When she was young Dad bought her a horse and she's been into dressage for most of her life. Though her first horse was a natural herder just did that for his own enjoyment and she rode western then. Most of her horses were trained first now she has one she bought because "it has such pretty gates". I Don't get to see her much but That is the spookingest horse I ever saw. She has had it 8 or so years and takes it from trainer to trainer. I can see how fearful she is of the thing. I live in a different province so I can't help her. The horse is very high strung naturally. But she turns in flight every time it acts up 'cause she never had an untrained or spooky horse before. I wonder if she ever rode the thing. She has had a good deal of lessons her whole life which like mine is ebbing, yet in all that time never learned horse sense. I on the other hand have worked with all kinds of horses with no formal training but continual experience and they do whatever I want. I learned young not to be bluffed take no guff read the animal. I always liked an extra long set of reins. A good slap on the but sometimes gets the right attention, The only set of spurs I own are strictly for show. Anyway I could talk horses I've known night and day. I've seen cowboys rip their poor horse up with spurs and wrestle them to the ground like a steer at a rodeo have them stretched with ropes from both ends and then wonder why that fella wants to kick, bite buck. Anyway enough talk I do apologise as I got off talking before I saw more of what you are about. Keith McLellan.
@@777theprophet Thanks Keith for your reply and for taking the time to watch some more of our videos. Keep up the good work with the horse rescue. God bless you and best wishes for the upcoming holidays. (I guess you've allready had Thanksgiving up there, right?)