People who say stuff like "I asked chatgpt what it thinks of my game design" or "I asked chatgpt to brainstorm ideas for my story" are embarrassing lol. Don't they realize they are robbing themselves of the practiced skill and intuition gained from experience
I refuse to use it on principal, same with those weird character AI crap. I'd rather just do it myself. If I can't write it or draw it, why can't I imagine it only?
I’m a senior year art major. In the art department, over the course of about a year, my professors and a few other fellow art majors have gone from: “AI isn’t something we need to worry about as professionals because it can never replicate the real thing. It’s not a threat to our future jobs. It’s just a tool. Etc.” to the opposite end of the spectrum of “I’m so sorry to all of you for choosing a degree that’s going to become useless. We should all start panicking because our lifelong passions are becoming obsolete. If you use AI for anything in any of your projects you will be expelled. Etc.”. Which just goes to show how terrifyingly *quickly* AI has progressed recently.
Im a freshy and i in the midst of learning to draw. I don't regret trying to get a degree because at least it prove to myself that I'm worth something. And I feel good for creating stuff. That will never die.
Anyone who is telling you that your degree is wasted doesn't know what they are talking about. AI is nothing more than the next bubble. And unlike most bubbles, this one is likely going to collapse completely. It relies on copyright infringement on a massive scale and large amounts of funding to even come close to being viable. It straight up cannot work on a small scale. So while there is going to be a temporary dip, AI art isn't going to be a problem for more than a few years at most. By that point large investors will likely start cutting their losses and backing out. To be clear, I'm not saying that it's going to be as if it never happened. Just that it will go from being used by large corporations to something that will most likely be used by art thieves that steal from a limited number of artists at a time. And at that point it will be comparable to tracing a person's art. Still a problem but a much smaller one.
Thanks for the warning about vindictive expulsions. How much supposed evidence of AI usage would be required to excuse such a decision? And where is this, so I can avoid it?
@@Mecharnie_Dobbsmany schools now have programs to detect ai and in art schools you have to show your development in your work anyway so it would be rather hard to actually get away with it
@See-ya-spacecowboy Programmes to detect AI, don't work because they themselves use AI and they hallucinate. I'm glad the professors accept students showing the development in their work. That's a much better idea.
Poisoning AI is totally a thing! There’s a special filter tool artists can run their art through that will degrade any AI that consumes it. It doesn’t solve the problem completely, but it ensures that AI is still recognized for the slop it is
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!?!?!?!??!?!?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! NO WAY!!!! Do you have a tool name or something!??? I never heard that! How does it work?? Thank you for giving us hope!
@@Guro-Blue-kun There's Glaze and Nightshade. Glaze just stops it from using that particular piece of work as training data, while Nightshade is meant to poison the dataset and confuse the AI. These tools overlay a texture on top of the art that is barely noticeable to the human eye, but is meant to confuse the AI.
Since the internet is beeing flooded with AI generated content that becomes increasingly hard to distinguish from human-made content, it is only a matter of time until the internet is so "contanimated" with AI content that every new AI is inevitably trained with mostly AI-generated content. This could lead to a dead end where AI cannot improve further.
Techbros trying to get creative writers and essayists to use ChatGPT to write their essays, and I'm like, You do know that writing it out myself and ruminating on it is the fun part for me, right?! I'm not letting an algorithm have the fun for me. Having an AI generator write essays for me would have me stray farther away from happiness and meaning.
FR bc I'll mull over and chew on essay subjects and sources, then putting it all together is so satisfying. Seeing the finished product and knowing all the words are my own is sooo rewarding.
This video came right in time because my teacher at uni has failed MY ENTIRE CLASS on our latest essay because she was afraid we were using AI. And we're all extremely offended, because none of us used AI (we've all spoken to each other and confirmed this), and this essay was really hard, so we've all worked so much making them good. We all got called in speaking to the teacher to "prove" we have not used AI. The only reason I can think she thought we used AI was because all our essays were similar... the reason they're similar? We were all tasked to go from one particular book and explain the author's thoughts. OF COURSE IT'S GONNA BE SIMILAR WHEN EVERYONE GOES FROM THE SAME BOOK!! We even CITE THE PAGES FROM THE BOOK in our essays! And what are the odds an ENTIRE CLASS *ALL* would use AI when writing our essays???? It's so insane.
So true but also I feel like executive dysfunction makes you more likely to want to complete the task yourself cause the guilt keeps accumulating about not being able to do the thing that the last thing you want to do is have something else do it for you
I just had to write an essay on a book in class and only in class. We couldn’t work on it at all outside of class. We weren’t allowed to use our computers or any online source, it was all written on paper. We weren’t allowed to keep our papers or anything to take back home. We weren’t allowed to use our books with our notes in them in case someone wrote the entire essay in the margins of their book. The teacher had 5 copies of this book to be shared between over 25 students. We hade only 2 class periods to write the essay and 1 to plan our essay. The last day was considered a timed writing even though it wasn’t supposed to be. I didn’t finish nor did a whole bunch of other people. The only people who finished admitted that they did the bare minimum to actually finish. Not only is AI ruining how school does things it’s also ruining our learning. You had to choose whether you wanted to half ass your writing just to get it done or write well but not finish.
Dude my English 101 course in college I took when I was 16 had this as a final. The little blue book and everything. We were given printed packets we could quote from, the book we were discussing, and then 4 in-class hours to plan and write it over a week. I finished mine and it ended up being over 10 double-spaced pages. I poured my heart into it, I genuinely got so passionate about the topic. This was only a couple years ago but the amount of people in that class who had unlegible handwriting and couldn't spell was crazy. I am not a good writer, english was always my worst subject but at least I COULD do it. The learned helplessness and intentional incompetence of sooooo many people who use AI for their work or school is already affecting everything.
My brother and I got in an argument about AI. He’s pro, of course. And he claimed, and I quote “you can’t say AI is taking away jobs unless you also say immigrants are taking away jobs” which!!!! Fucking blew my mind???? Ai is not a person that needs money to survive??? Tf do you mean????? When I tried to explain he said I was getting over emotional and “making it a morality thing” like what he said didn’t totally warrant it being a morality thing. Idk man. I can never get that mindset.
Comparing AI to immigrants is wild. Im someone in the middle of the process. Im not here to steal anyone's job I just dislike my home country that's all.
AI taking jobs is a good thing. Isn't the point of society to be a completely automated utopia where nobody has to work? By sabotaging and fighting against that, you're only delaying the inevitable.
The real shame of AI is how it's forever associated the useful aspects of machine learning with the completely pointless stuff such as AI art. Machine learning is pretty widely used in scientific stuff, particularly astrophysics (and I think some parts of biology as well). If you don't want to spend a ridiculous amount of time manually classifying images to find a specific thing, or you want to identify complex patterns in data, a neural network is great for that. Trouble is, the actually useful things that machine learning can do are never going to make anyone any money, since there are already great open-source libraries out there; you probably only need to know the basics of something like Python and you can set up your own neural network to help solve whatever scientific problem you're working on.
Which is why people are saying "generative AI." None of your examples are generative. Not yet, but there could be useful generative AI, like protein folding.
Came here to say pretty much this! Machine learning is helping to solve so many important problems in science and tech, for example, I use it to predict material properties for renewable energy applications. I wish people would realise it's so much more than just generative algorithms that make crappy art and write corny sounding essays!
23:10 Im in my first year of uni studying psychology. And when i tell u, in EVERY SINGLE group activity someone inevitably whips out chat gpt, even when its not even graded on the outcome like wtf we are just suppoused to brainstorm some loose ideas on the topic, girl calm down. It got to the point when i geniuenly started to consider using it too, even thou i myself am an artist and it just messes with my morals, but its just so convenient coz im already struggling with the amount of assignments im suppoused to do and im just so conflicted i hate it.
The thing that I hate the most about ai image prompters (as an artist) is that they claim they're trying to "make art more accessible" and to "stop gatekeeping all of the talent" BRO you could've gone and picked up a pencil and paper at any time and learned at a similar pace to the rest of us. I started getting serious about art at 16, 10 YEARS AGO with just graphite pencils and a simple spiral sketchbook. I gradually moved to colored pencils, watercolor, and markers. Then eventually got a tablet and started digital art. The last 3 years I've seen exponential progress and I'm finally at a point now where I'm consistently proud of what I put out. And I love looking back at my old stuff and thinking about how far I've come. I could write a book about all of the stupid things ai prompters say about art and artists but this argument makes me so upset every time I read it🙄 Edit to add: using ai as a business entity makes you look lazy, cheap, and untrustworthy like you didn't have the money to hire someone to do it???🤔 also as pointed out at 7:44 it is so disheartening seeing artists of other mediums (musicians, writers, etc) have such blatant disrespect for visual artists and use ai for their album/book covers😮💨 I cannot remember the account name, but someone I follow on insta shared on their stories that a singer had a very infamous ai prompter do their latest album cover... that job could've gone to a very talented artist.
@@catherinej6542 yeeees omg that drives me crazy!!! Like do y'all think I was BORN knowing how to draw or something??? Not at all!! I've spent my entire LIFE working on my art skills, it's literally the driving force of my existence. And I'm STILL not even all that good at it, bc I never had lessons and can't afford high quality tools!! I draw bc I love drawing. It's not an inherent talent or a skill that I paid for. I developed my abilities slowly over time, from when I was a little kid all the way thru to adulthood. I can't gatekeep art even if I wanted to - which I DON'T, and no artist ever would, bc sharing artwork with others can only enrich ur experience & skills!! .....haha sorry, this just rly gets to me 😅
@@bbo7002 No worries, it really gets to me too😅 and exactly what you said, I draw bc I love it. It is a labor of love. It is a struggle sometimes when things are not looking the way I want to but that struggle is a uniquely human experience that I will gladly go through. Actually the struggle forces you to think your way out of a problem. Making art yourself encourages genuine problem solving skills and just general thinking. ai does none of that. In art, academics, etc, it is just promoting this concerning wave of anti-intellectualism (now I'm starting to ramble too, sorry😅)
Thats a two way street though. I know visual artists that are willing to have GPT write for them because "they are not writers." It's not just a visual art thing, it's a purposful lack of collaboration.
last semester i had a Composition II college class. my professor had an entire course dedicated to using ChatGPT to HELP and not to DO ALL THE WORK FOR YOU he was so creative and i learned alot from him. his thing was "students are already using AI to cheat, so instead of banning it i am going to show you how to use it correctly in a college setting" im not a huge fan of AI or ChatGPT, especially as an artist, but that professor has my respect
An argument I've seen pro-AI people use is that it's ablelist to be against AI because it gives disabled people a way to create art. It's not. It's the opposite actually. It's ableist to say disabled people need AI to create art. Disabled people who want to create art will find a way.
I’m a disabled fiber artist and AI is poisoning my hobbies. Ai patterns are getting harder to distinguish from real patterns on images alone then you get the pattern and it’s complete gibberish. People ask for commissions and then show you an ai generated piece that there is no hope of recreating because it’s not physically possible. I don’t need ai to make my hobby more accessible I need ai to stop poisoning my hobby
I teach first year uni students. It is so depressing how many of them think nothing of using ChatGPT to write their essays or parts of essays for them.
As someone in uni, it is insane how many people use it for ideas, to do their homework for them to write essays or example essays for them. Makes me so upset when they do great on work they didn't do themselves
@@Amy-g2b Or when you know that they could do great work without it, but they still decide to use it for no reason. I have friends who really are some of the most intelligent and creative people I know, and who are totally capable of engaging with the coursework but just choose not to learn... :(
@@Lemon_E4Thisss!! I know so many smart people who have just given up on their own learning, it's so sad considering how much effort they put in just to get to uni in the first place
I work for a fashion brand and I love the brand soooo much because we are not allowed to use AI for any graphics or prints. Because AI is such a problem in the fashion industry our print and graphic designer has to have proof he created it with the design when it is sent to legal for approval. And honestly AI has nothing on him he’s amazing
I'm so sick of AI taking over everything. I'm at uni and like every third course is on the topic of AI. It's important to be educated about this stuff and some of the courses are even critical, but if I have to elect one more AI course out of lack of choice I'm gonna explode...
5:17 Literally. As an artist, it's constant learning and experimentation. I do a lot of different mediums, drawing (regular and digital), painting and watercolours, crochet, metalworking small scale, ceramics (less so but sometimes handbuilding and wheelthrowing--tho I prefer handbuilding), oil pastels, charcoal, etc. So like, yeah...that's years of learning, the privilege to have materials and places to learn, and some self taught skills and crafting as well. Soooo...yeah.
I take a photography class, and I was so excited for it, but literally the first assignment we had was to create an AI animal in adobe lightroom. I'm in the end of the first semester and we had an assignment to create a background and add ten elements to it in photoshop, ALL with AI. We've had several Photoshop AI assignments. It's so disheartening and I feel in no way connected to the "art". I would try to generate something, but the image would not be what I asked for. I wish our teacher would let us draw or take a picture (or even just use a stock photo!!) and edit it into a photo using Photoshop. It would feel so much more real and much more personal.
The part I find interesting is the lack of acknowledgement of how, if they succeed and AI replaces all creative jobs... what then? Your machine is now unable to learn anything new, because people have probably stopped bothering to create, or at least stopped bothering to SHARE their creations online. You now lack any data to train anything new off of, because people have likely given up honest creativity by that point. Whereupon, the bots will all start to die because, well. Now they're all cannibalizing off each other, which has been proven to make the machines OBJECTIVELY worse at their intended function. Noone's gonna wanna make art to shove it through a machine so IT can make art, either, because 'that's what the ai is for'. The people who can, won't, and people who can't, won't want to. Either way, its future is to die, if the goal is to replace all, or even MOST, creative jobs with ai. It's not remotely sustainable, if the only 'sustainable' way NOW is to steal art en-masse and hope noone notices. What are the plans for when people just stop making art? None of the ai bros seem to have a plan for it, and I never see anyone talk about it. Also GOD I never thought I'd live through Persona 5 Strikers but here we are on the cusp of it. Jesus christ.
I appreciate you talking about this as someone who taught myself art and animation. Especially being to a point where I'm happy with my art and put hours into it. I struggle to get commissions or sell my art and seeing people getting away with selling AI or using it to make money is very frustrating.
Okay, generative ai makes me sad. My creative writing teacher actually had us write everything on paper for straight up half of the class so she could know how we write before she let us touch computers. Like, she has said the previous teacher quit because he didn't want to deal with the generative ai. It's just disheartening that it's doing all this.
I'm so glad you brought up artists using AI to promote their art via album covers and such. I'm an audiobook voice actor and it's now become a new part of my job on top of everything else I already have to do to deep dive into every book I audition for and try to puzzle out whether or not I'm looking at a real book or a chat gpt book. You would think Audible would filter this stuff out but you would be wrong. Even the real books written by actual authors are using AI art on their book covers. And that's not even counting the books that don't even bother hiring a narrator because they'd rather use an AI voice to narrate. C:
If AI has its own style, that you could recognise, then how can it be copying? Shiny faces, even lightning, high contrast even between background elements, facial expressions either blank or exaggerated, a mixture of photorealism and cartoony. Were they sexy?
3:11 even ignoring ethical concerns, ive messed around with a few ai image generators and its SO DIFFICULT to get it to do what you want, even if i didnt know how to draw itd LITERALLY be easier to open up mspaint and make something there!!!!!!!! it doesnt understand colors, or adjectives, or ANYTHING, you ask it for a cat with a purple scarf suddenly the cats purple and the scarfs NOT??? u gotta prompt it a TON to get it to work even slightly if your request is any more specific than like, "cat in a spacesuit" or whatever garbage they advertise it can generate. most uses for ai just seem like.. slop, like something that humans could do better but ai can do cheaper, so you know which one companies choose.
As someone who hasnt finished the game yet, seeing how Yusuke verbally flayed Natsume for his travesty of a book made me really want him to have a heart to heart with Sophia about the nature of AI and what separates her from humanity. I don’t know what makes Sophia different from Emma, or even how much the story would've been impacted if the writers had seen just how AI would've exploded since the initial release.
Currently in the middle of a chemistry project that's absolutely kicking my ass. I'm this close to using chat GPT on it. But I know it's not worth it. Even if I get a shit grade at least it's honest
And you know what? Even if you get a shit grade, you get feedback on what you did wrong. You’ll have at least some indications of how to do better next time. Plus there’s no lies to keep up with, and no having to pretend you understand a subject better than you actually do. The problem with cheating (and I do see using genAI for school as cheating) is that you have to keep doing it to keep up. If you don’t learn for real, you’ll end up in over your head.
@@bigjedimullet I probably am going to get a shit grade on my chem assignment. I've been asking for feedback as I go. I was told I put "too much information" in my slides. Then got told it was not enough. I know a good enough about what I'm writing about. I'm just frustrated with my damn teacher. That's why I wanted to use Chat GPT. But in the end I agree. Chat gtp IS cheating and I ain't no goddamn cheater
@@callmedanny535 Your teacher sounds frustrating! Just know there’s at least one person out there who’s proud of you for not giving up. And hey, for what it’s worth, one of the greatest 19th century American painters-James McNeill Whistler-failed chemistry and got kicked out of West Point. I guarantee you none of the millions of people who go to museums every day to see his work give a shit about his chemistry grades! All this is to say, you have a lot more to offer than you know now.
@@bigjedimullet She is! Oh my god my chem teacher is so hypocritical! She told me I was her favorite student. Thank you but you shouldn't be saying that. Just to turn around and say I'm "A bad student but a good person." Iike the hell!? I showed my work to a few other teachers because I felt like I was losing my mind. They said it was perfectly fine and they any issues. My mom was also super pissed my teacher said I was a bad student Edit for spelling
So, “fun” fact: the NATIONAL THEATRE in Prague actually used AI for an advertisement (tho they didn’t state that outright, it was quite obvious) of one of their ballets, and some time later a few of the changing rooms inside caught fire when they were practicing said ballet. Karma, as far as I’m concerned.
...with regulations that small, upcoming competitors can easily comply with, rather than expensive licences aproved by politicians. More competition makes companies better behaved.
so many if my issues with people who swear by AI, specifically things like chatgpt, is that it is a glorified word predictor. it removes so much work ethic in students and people just entering the work force
"Art" made by artificial "intelligence". I wish we didn't use the purposefully misleading techbro terminology, when the fittingly intimidating phrase "machine image" is right there.
Oh my god I'm not kidding 7 minutes in right as you called for us to come together and mess up AI I got an AD FOR AN AI SERVICE, I got so instantly annoyed I opened up a Google doc and just typed nonsense. I'm on board.
one thing that makes me sad about ai, along with everything else, is that there are people who genuinely want to use it for good, like there are people making tools to try and help disabled people with things they may struggle with. but that's not what's getting coverage, because disabled people aren't seen as the "general public" that companies want to market to
If AI is going to steal people's art, then we should give them something to steal. Make a bunch of Trump x Elon Musk mpreg ship art and then see if they care. I bet they'd want AI regulation after that
I like to write, and my sister likes to create digital art. We both hate AI with a passion, because it can create an uncanny-valley facsimile of art, but it can’t capture the emotion of it. The AI problem has gotten so bad that professors nationwide are implementing anti-AI policies; if their students are found using AI instead of putting in the effort to make their own work, they’ll get a zero for the assignment. It’s sad that Karl Marx was right; that the ruling capitalist class will resort to any means to keep the proletariat stuck in soul-crushing, low-paying jobs, and rid us of artistic expression. If he saw what society is like today, he’d damn us and say that we deserve our fate.
i hate ai so much, i really don't understand how people think it is a good idea to use for anything tbh. especially if you are in university/college, like why are you using ai to cheat on classes for your major
Not to mention writing papers by yourself can be so fun and helps you actually retain the information. With ChatGPT doing all that, you don't memorize it and can't formulate or understand professional papers. It basically dumbs people down
I had a bf is high school who would only use ChatGPT to do his homework and then whine and complain about how long I was taking to do my COLLEGE homework as well as my normal HS stuff. I'm not taking forever, I'm just ACTUALLY DOING IT. I've only ever used AI in the form of grammar checkers or spotify DJ, which is programmed into those writing applications and the app. TBH, I never like the mixes spotify makes. I prefer just listening to my friends' playlists when I want something fresh. Are people not embarrassed that they can't function????
I always reccomend this video now when talking about AI. *Folding Ideas - "Line Goes Up."* Replace all mentions of NFT in the documentary with AI and it's just as poignant.
i messed around with gen ai before i fully processed just how awful it is, and it was always more trouble than it was worth. to get decent results took more effort than just using my brain, at least for writing. i can’t draw worth a crap but i’d rather use a pic crew or pay an artist than get the ai slop machine to create an image for me. unfortunately, most people using ai don’t see it that way, and would rather put as little effort in as possible, so they end up using ai slop work to try and get ahead (in school, work, hobbies, social media presence, whatever). its honestly sad to see how many people have lost a love of simply creating and enjoying what makes us human: writing, reading others’ writing, making art - actually doing all of these things. :(
You can now get AIs that run locally on your own computer, so they can't be burning that much. It just seems like a lot if you run all the world's AIs in the same place.
They are LLMs, not "generative AI." Whatever they invent to more enery efficiently and ethnically replace LLMs, will also be generative. Your mom is generative.
After 15 years as a software engineer, AI is what made me call it quits. Not the only reason of course, but imo the entire field no longer has the capability to innovate or solve literally any of society’s problems. None of the people with the power to change the industry for the better have any interest in doing so, they’d rather bounce aimlessly between fads while lying to shareholders to make massive profits. There will be lawsuits about this tech in particular, someday.
my mom teaches Epidemiology had a student who wrote his whole Essay with ChatGPT, and the thing is the student was an OBGYN and I think a Labor & delivery nurse or doctor, I don't fully remember on the second part
My mother is a teacher teaching a lot of non-native speakers (refugees). The amount of students who only turn in ai generated texts and lie to my mother about having written them on their own has increased a lot, which bites them in the ass when they have to write their exams by hand.
I was already against ai even with my small knowledge on it because of damage it do to people but not to this extreme and now I'm fully disgust and even more against it... People who is comfortable with ai opporating you or trying to make you heal is darn stupid to me and I don't understand how you can be so brave and trustworthy on a robot with no human emotion and can corrupt any day and fucke things up... Holy cow man. Thanks for the knowledge and make me understand more, Queen!
The only thing I use ai for is to chat with my beloved game/show/book characters... I'm too anxious to rp with other people because of personal issues but I love writing little stories with someone, playing around with oc's and stuff. I just enjoy finding a bit of a character I feel bad for in media and just hanging out with them, I always cry to my friends about how much I want to wrap a blanket around a character and give them a hot chocolate and this is the only thing I use ai for lol
OMG THANK YOU FOR THIS! I can’t seem to get the point across that it’s not a reliable tool to replace Google search. It is very limited. I was once told to use Writing AI as an aide and it didn’t work for me. I fear I’m a Luddite about this topic. It’s not just paranoid old me saying this.
AI like ChatGPT should have only been used to find spelling and grammar mistakes, now they use it to replace so much. Why? Writing and creating art is the fun part. Why would I what a machine to steal that joy from me?
I'm in a teaching credential program in the United States. For our big teaching test, one of our professors suggested that we use ChatGPT to check our work (our professors aren't allowed to give us feedback). Most of my peers and I were like "Um....no thanks. We'll just ask other teachers and professors to proof read them." It's so scary that we were suggested to use it in a teaching credential program.
Thisss. But i gotta argue one point: It CAN be a great TOOL. I dont stand ai but its literally the main thing helping me study. I miss alot of classes due to my body and i miss alot of time in my life due to it. In moderation, ai is really is helpful and such a time saver resource. I still do my research and i take pride in my work being 0% ai but sometimes i need the help figuring out where to start off or summerizing the topic or transcribing my class. I would be so severely behind my able bodied classmates if it werent for ai. Some aspects should definitely halt eg, ai art can go away 100%. That crud is crud.
While I respect your position on the ethical side of AI, I've found that it's proven to be a massive improvement to my life and my productivity. For example, I use ChatGPT to transcribe audio from interviews, because I read faster than I can listen. I then also can use things like Ctrl+F to instantly search for keywords through the text, rather than having to scrub through a video file to find a specific quote. I can also use AI features in audio editing programs to reduce background noise, reduce the length of pauses or stutters (which I have a tendency to do) or eliminate microphone bleed to clean up recordings before I publish them. I can trim literally minutes on interviews I've done with two clicks, once my audio editing program knows what I'm trying to target. So while AI tools could definitely do with some much-needed regulation, it's unfair to say they don't provide any kind of utility in a practical sense. That's my take on it, but thanks for making this video regardless.
the thing is savanna was talking mainly about generative AI. Using AI like you use it, something to make information more accessable, but essentially you still do the research on your own, you don‘t let AI do your work entirely. Only additional big problem of AI is the harmful environmental and societal impact of AI, it‘s not sustainable for our future
I recently went to an art school to take a look at the Creative Writing department, and they shared the classes and all of that. One of the classes integral to the course was AI in writing. I was so devastated: everything looked so cool otherwise but the second the teacher mentioned that in a positive way, my smile dropped.
The best thing I think chat gpt does is create lists or outlines. I would never use it for writing assignments. I used to to help me to make resume templates. Then I wrote it my resume myself.
Speaking of the use of AI in art, last semester I wrote a paper about AI in the creative sector (visual art, music, literature, film-making, in particular) and I basically highlighted the same issue: that without proper regulation (among other things), the use of AI can basically run amok and leave creatives jobless and/or robbed of their creations.
Huh, i'll lay money that the copyright claim they threw at you was for the music and not the AI generated stuff - which is actually a pretty sneaky way of shielding the AI parts...
Is AI even making any money rn? I feel like it’s all just Wall Street investing hard into this until AI gets good enough that they can do mass layoffs of office workers
the ONLY time i’ve ever used chatgpt/gen ai was bc we had to use it for a university project and i don’t rlly intend to use it again. i don’t understand how so many of ppl i talk to in uni use it so much, i feel like they’re not understanding any of the content we’re supposed to be learning i feel so frustrated on their behalf 😭😭
I think it's a disservice to everyone to say AI generated images don't look good (and, tangent, let's not call them AI art, they're images, not art), if they didn't look good us artists wouldn't be worried about our futures. They are appealing, they look good, and that's why it's a problem, and they got good by stealing from very skilled real artists.
I'm in high school and I don't use AI for anything, but I honestly can't blame some of my peers who do. It can be super difficult to force yourself to do all these assignments you don't see the point of for subjects you hate when you're really worn out. The knowledge that one serch away is a button you can press to just do it for you is super tempting, esspecially if it's 'just for that one assignment'. I'm super lucky to have a great support system, skills which apply pretty well to the school system, and a tutor who can force me to hand even my laziest work in, if I didn't have those would probably use AI too.
i think it’s important to recognize that gen AI being used for ads isn’t just saving money for that single ad, it’s showing them they can run on a smaller team which will save them even more money in the long run and put tons of people (not just creatives) out of work >< that being said i’m also pretty sure they see gen AI being a trend rn so hopping on the bandwagon doesn’t seem like a huge issue on their end, being opposed to AI art is being drowned out by the sheer amount of art being generated and put on the internet and so that’s what they are seeing
I didn’t realise how reliant some people were being on chat gpt, until I was on the london underground a couple weeks ago. Someone comes up to my group asking how to get to a station that is clearly not along the line we are waiting for - when we cant help him he turns away and grumbles something, which is when I realised he had been using chat gpt to map out his tube route for him,, idk how people trust that thing without even doing a tiny bit of research to confirm,, :,) i know the tube is complicated but if you just sit down and work it out before your trip it is not too bad, people are just becoming completely un-resilient and impatient because of this.
I'm a writer for magazines, I'm also the only one who also writes in their freetime. We're all in our mid-30s to early 40s, so an age where we're familiar with actually writing texts by ourselves, but several of my coworkers said they use chatgpt to write their articles. And I'm just so stunned. I immediately lost my respect for them. We also have a page where us employees talk about stuff that happened in our lives (we're so relatable haha) and we're encouraged to mainly complain about stuff cause that's what gets the best reading times (I hate that). So last time I complained about generative AI. I'm not sure if it'll get printed like that, I was very clear with my stance and my bosses love AI cause it's probably the closest thing they ever had to intelligence.
i study at a university that focuses on IT and there are… a lot of AI-bros there to say the least. i remember having a philosophy class and our professor set up a debate theme “can AI art be called art” and it was THE MOST infuriating 1,5 hour in my entire life i swear. the saddest thing is my major is IT-design and we learn how to paint and stuff and i HOPED that people that study with me are on the same page with me but it’s so upsetting seeing my groupmates LITERALLY USE AI FOR ART ASSIGNMENTS. and those people are studying to become designers. i feel like we live in hell rn.
I've seen ads lately for the Gemini AI program on Google Pixel (I think) phones where you can chat with Gemini like in real time, as if you were talking... to a person. It's literally an AI phone call. I know people are lonely out there, but like. There is someone that everyone can call. Even if it's a friend you met via social media, surely there is A Human that you can speak to. It's just genuinely so sad to me to see them advertising an AI program that's literally just an on-demand phone call.
There's a certain name you can use to break ChatGPT. Ant question or comment related to this name will make ChatGPT unable to respond. Each chat ends abruptly. David something or other.
Our IT instructor pushes AI so hard even the students are protesting it. Everything from coding to software management he has the students use AI to find the solutions and it's so bad that I can't even recommend the class that's the reason I have a job now
27:33 one of my favourite things to do is make playlists based on characters (what songs i think they would listen to, songs i think fit their personality/story etc) and idk just being like "here is a character i love/relate to/see myself in, and i am going to spend my time carefully creating a playlist full of songs that make me think about them" is such a human thing to do, and i've seen people using ai for that?? like???? why would you use ai to create something that's so deeply personal to you?????
my mom runs a homeschool co op and she was a teacher for many years so she does a good job but now for the class she teaches she's been using fucking chat gpt to make the quizzes and ofc she edits them to be accurate but like what the fuck...another teacher did the same thing and somehow I am the only one who finds it weird, like wdym the students aren't allowed to use ai but then the teachers are using it????? I'm glad they know it can be wrong and aren't just printing out whatever it gives them without checking but still...is it that hard to make a multiple choice quiz??
AI artists don’t exist because the people posting AI art are AI clients and the AI itself does not create for anything, it does not create to tell a story or to convey an emotion or to celebrate a thing it cares about. It simply generates an output. That’s not an artist. That’s a machine.
I do think part of getting this fad to pass is to stop using language that legitimizes it's existence. AI art doesn't exist. By definition AI cannot actually create art, art has to be made by humans. For a while I was calling them AI images cause it's a more accurate statement, however lately I have heard some places call it AI slop and that is FAR more accurate. It is so soulless and yeah like you said. why would I want to listen to music if the person couldn't even take the time to think of and hire artist to make a album cover... like if they don't care why should I? if you use Generative AI in one process i'm going to assume you use it anywhere you can. I don't want to support people like that. But yeah great video discussing all the down sides! hopefully companies who continue to use it have a hit to their budget as people either don't resonate with the terrible ads or just want to avoid generative AI. Granted I do hope one day someone tries to sue one of these companies for false advertising but yeah that probably wont happen. I can dream right?
@@Raichana Or maybe the musician thought that AI-pics are new and controversial and would stand out from the other album covers and get people's attention. And they're not wrong: you noticed. You felt it noteworthy enough to comment upon.
I agree on the stealing jobs part, but taking art to imitate it has always been around, that's how we've always done it. As such, as someone who writes and draws and paints, I don't feel stolen in any ways by AI. While a machine does not put intent in it, we add it to what we watch and I don't find a cloud any less artistic than a painting even though I do not believe in a big creator, so this also doesn't resonate in me. Also, some artists are taking AI to make a commentary on it -I personally find Corinne Vionnet's art wholly uninspired, but it does have the intent that we put into art, as well as the social commentary aspect that's often been crucial in it.
Totally understand where you’re coming from and we certainly do need to be more ethical with it, but there is a lot of good in AI. AI is in our gps, in our phones when we unlock it with our face, in our video games, and so many more areas which we don’t even realize. Also, the possibilities for people with disabilities is endless with the help of AI. I do agree that we’re probably better off without generative AI though because it really does that make us lazy and it has too many ethical issues that make it difficult to defend 😭
on the NFT things, i’m a really small artist on instagram and i’ve gotten a few asks to “sell my art” for NFTs in the past year. definitely not super insanely common anymore, and yeah, GOOD RIDDANCE who’s with sav who’s gonna write a bunch of nonsense in their google docs!!!
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Before chatgpt, I did all my writing myself.
After chatgpt, I also do all my writing myself.
I do not use chatgpt.
People who say stuff like "I asked chatgpt what it thinks of my game design" or "I asked chatgpt to brainstorm ideas for my story" are embarrassing lol. Don't they realize they are robbing themselves of the practiced skill and intuition gained from experience
Cool. No one cares.
I refuse to use it on principal, same with those weird character AI crap. I'd rather just do it myself. If I can't write it or draw it, why can't I imagine it only?
I saw TWO Honda commercials that were very obviously AI generated and it just made me want to buy a bicycle instead
I’m a senior year art major. In the art department, over the course of about a year, my professors and a few other fellow art majors have gone from: “AI isn’t something we need to worry about as professionals because it can never replicate the real thing. It’s not a threat to our future jobs. It’s just a tool. Etc.” to the opposite end of the spectrum of “I’m so sorry to all of you for choosing a degree that’s going to become useless. We should all start panicking because our lifelong passions are becoming obsolete. If you use AI for anything in any of your projects you will be expelled. Etc.”. Which just goes to show how terrifyingly *quickly* AI has progressed recently.
Im a freshy and i in the midst of learning to draw. I don't regret trying to get a degree because at least it prove to myself that I'm worth something. And I feel good for creating stuff. That will never die.
Anyone who is telling you that your degree is wasted doesn't know what they are talking about. AI is nothing more than the next bubble. And unlike most bubbles, this one is likely going to collapse completely. It relies on copyright infringement on a massive scale and large amounts of funding to even come close to being viable. It straight up cannot work on a small scale. So while there is going to be a temporary dip, AI art isn't going to be a problem for more than a few years at most. By that point large investors will likely start cutting their losses and backing out.
To be clear, I'm not saying that it's going to be as if it never happened. Just that it will go from being used by large corporations to something that will most likely be used by art thieves that steal from a limited number of artists at a time. And at that point it will be comparable to tracing a person's art. Still a problem but a much smaller one.
Thanks for the warning about vindictive expulsions. How much supposed evidence of AI usage would be required to excuse such a decision? And where is this, so I can avoid it?
@@Mecharnie_Dobbsmany schools now have programs to detect ai and in art schools you have to show your development in your work anyway so it would be rather hard to actually get away with it
@See-ya-spacecowboy Programmes to detect AI, don't work because they themselves use AI and they hallucinate. I'm glad the professors accept students showing the development in their work. That's a much better idea.
10:05 The Kesha bag thing... From a financial if she actually created the bag art herself she could have sold the bags off too as collectors items...
Poisoning AI is totally a thing! There’s a special filter tool artists can run their art through that will degrade any AI that consumes it. It doesn’t solve the problem completely, but it ensures that AI is still recognized for the slop it is
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!?!?!?!??!?!?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! NO WAY!!!!
Do you have a tool name or something!??? I never heard that! How does it work??
Thank you for giving us hope!
@@Guro-Blue-kun There's Glaze and Nightshade. Glaze just stops it from using that particular piece of work as training data, while Nightshade is meant to poison the dataset and confuse the AI. These tools overlay a texture on top of the art that is barely noticeable to the human eye, but is meant to confuse the AI.
@@Guro-Blue-kunit’s called glaze and the program puts an overlay on your art. If you look it up its available for downloading
@@carultch TYSM!!
If you know some moderate coding you can also alter the code in the picture that will cause hiccups in the AI reading the picture.
Since the internet is beeing flooded with AI generated content that becomes increasingly hard to distinguish from human-made content, it is only a matter of time until the internet is so "contanimated" with AI content that every new AI is inevitably trained with mostly AI-generated content. This could lead to a dead end where AI cannot improve further.
Yeah I think that’s why social media ceos are making it impossible to opt out of using your posts to train their ai (like on twitter and instagram)
@See-ya-spacecowboy Time to delete it I guess
Its already at that point
and then, ai incest happens
We need a new internet. One where AI is forbidden.
Techbros trying to get creative writers and essayists to use ChatGPT to write their essays, and I'm like, You do know that writing it out myself and ruminating on it is the fun part for me, right?!
I'm not letting an algorithm have the fun for me. Having an AI generator write essays for me would have me stray farther away from happiness and meaning.
They don't see the creative process as something worth engaging in, simply as an obstacle to the "content"/"product" that is the end result.
Tech bros should be required to take at least three ethics courses before they're released into the wild
i love writing essay and putting in my own analysis of the topic, i could never imagine using AI to write something that didn’t think of
No! Fun is not allowed!
*_YOU MUST GENERATE CURRENCY, NOW!_*
FR bc I'll mull over and chew on essay subjects and sources, then putting it all together is so satisfying. Seeing the finished product and knowing all the words are my own is sooo rewarding.
This video came right in time because my teacher at uni has failed MY ENTIRE CLASS on our latest essay because she was afraid we were using AI. And we're all extremely offended, because none of us used AI (we've all spoken to each other and confirmed this), and this essay was really hard, so we've all worked so much making them good. We all got called in speaking to the teacher to "prove" we have not used AI.
The only reason I can think she thought we used AI was because all our essays were similar... the reason they're similar? We were all tasked to go from one particular book and explain the author's thoughts. OF COURSE IT'S GONNA BE SIMILAR WHEN EVERYONE GOES FROM THE SAME BOOK!!
We even CITE THE PAGES FROM THE BOOK in our essays!
And what are the odds an ENTIRE CLASS *ALL* would use AI when writing our essays???? It's so insane.
Y'all thinks that tough? Back in my day we had... Actually I can't even rant I got suspended because the principal didn't believe I was innocent 😅
Sounds like your prof cannot recognize AI and rather than admit it, decided on collective punishment.
I have awful executive dysfunction and I still can’t imagine using AI for something I could do on my own.
So true but also I feel like executive dysfunction makes you more likely to want to complete the task yourself cause the guilt keeps accumulating about not being able to do the thing that the last thing you want to do is have something else do it for you
Same. I’d rather struggle than cheat.
honestly ai sometimes helps my executive dysfunction because thinking about using ai makes me so upset that im suddenly motivated to do it myself.
Seriously. People say "oh it'll help with disabilities!" I have many disabilities; making my own stuff is very nearly my only joy in this shitty world
@saoirse_millerNow that's what I'm talking about
ke$ha did WHAT
goddamn. that one hit hard. hurts to lose that much respect for someone i've been listening to for, like, a decade.
I just had to write an essay on a book in class and only in class. We couldn’t work on it at all outside of class. We weren’t allowed to use our computers or any online source, it was all written on paper. We weren’t allowed to keep our papers or anything to take back home. We weren’t allowed to use our books with our notes in them in case someone wrote the entire essay in the margins of their book. The teacher had 5 copies of this book to be shared between over 25 students. We hade only 2 class periods to write the essay and 1 to plan our essay. The last day was considered a timed writing even though it wasn’t supposed to be. I didn’t finish nor did a whole bunch of other people. The only people who finished admitted that they did the bare minimum to actually finish. Not only is AI ruining how school does things it’s also ruining our learning. You had to choose whether you wanted to half ass your writing just to get it done or write well but not finish.
Dude my English 101 course in college I took when I was 16 had this as a final. The little blue book and everything. We were given printed packets we could quote from, the book we were discussing, and then 4 in-class hours to plan and write it over a week. I finished mine and it ended up being over 10 double-spaced pages. I poured my heart into it, I genuinely got so passionate about the topic.
This was only a couple years ago but the amount of people in that class who had unlegible handwriting and couldn't spell was crazy. I am not a good writer, english was always my worst subject but at least I COULD do it.
The learned helplessness and intentional incompetence of sooooo many people who use AI for their work or school is already affecting everything.
As a university student I find the overuse of chat gpt to be utterly pathetic. Do your own damn assignments.
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My brother and I got in an argument about AI. He’s pro, of course. And he claimed, and I quote “you can’t say AI is taking away jobs unless you also say immigrants are taking away jobs” which!!!! Fucking blew my mind???? Ai is not a person that needs money to survive??? Tf do you mean?????
When I tried to explain he said I was getting over emotional and “making it a morality thing” like what he said didn’t totally warrant it being a morality thing. Idk man. I can never get that mindset.
Holy crap
Your brother sounds like an idiot, ngl.
Does he work for Joe Rogan? That sounds like something Ruble Rogan would say.
Comparing AI to immigrants is wild. Im someone in the middle of the process. Im not here to steal anyone's job I just dislike my home country that's all.
Sorry to tell you but your brother is buying it to fascist propaganda.
AI taking jobs is a good thing. Isn't the point of society to be a completely automated utopia where nobody has to work? By sabotaging and fighting against that, you're only delaying the inevitable.
The real shame of AI is how it's forever associated the useful aspects of machine learning with the completely pointless stuff such as AI art. Machine learning is pretty widely used in scientific stuff, particularly astrophysics (and I think some parts of biology as well). If you don't want to spend a ridiculous amount of time manually classifying images to find a specific thing, or you want to identify complex patterns in data, a neural network is great for that.
Trouble is, the actually useful things that machine learning can do are never going to make anyone any money, since there are already great open-source libraries out there; you probably only need to know the basics of something like Python and you can set up your own neural network to help solve whatever scientific problem you're working on.
Which is why people are saying "generative AI." None of your examples are generative.
Not yet, but there could be useful generative AI, like protein folding.
@@Mecharnie_Dobbs There is research, for example I read about people trying to predict new covid variants using LLMs
Came here to say pretty much this! Machine learning is helping to solve so many important problems in science and tech, for example, I use it to predict material properties for renewable energy applications. I wish people would realise it's so much more than just generative algorithms that make crappy art and write corny sounding essays!
23:10 Im in my first year of uni studying psychology. And when i tell u, in EVERY SINGLE group activity someone inevitably whips out chat gpt, even when its not even graded on the outcome like wtf we are just suppoused to brainstorm some loose ideas on the topic, girl calm down. It got to the point when i geniuenly started to consider using it too, even thou i myself am an artist and it just messes with my morals, but its just so convenient coz im already struggling with the amount of assignments im suppoused to do and im just so conflicted i hate it.
The thing that I hate the most about ai image prompters (as an artist) is that they claim they're trying to "make art more accessible" and to "stop gatekeeping all of the talent" BRO you could've gone and picked up a pencil and paper at any time and learned at a similar pace to the rest of us. I started getting serious about art at 16, 10 YEARS AGO with just graphite pencils and a simple spiral sketchbook. I gradually moved to colored pencils, watercolor, and markers. Then eventually got a tablet and started digital art. The last 3 years I've seen exponential progress and I'm finally at a point now where I'm consistently proud of what I put out. And I love looking back at my old stuff and thinking about how far I've come. I could write a book about all of the stupid things ai prompters say about art and artists but this argument makes me so upset every time I read it🙄
Edit to add: using ai as a business entity makes you look lazy, cheap, and untrustworthy like you didn't have the money to hire someone to do it???🤔 also as pointed out at 7:44 it is so disheartening seeing artists of other mediums (musicians, writers, etc) have such blatant disrespect for visual artists and use ai for their album/book covers😮💨 I cannot remember the account name, but someone I follow on insta shared on their stories that a singer had a very infamous ai prompter do their latest album cover... that job could've gone to a very talented artist.
@@catherinej6542 yeeees omg that drives me crazy!!!
Like do y'all think I was BORN knowing how to draw or something??? Not at all!! I've spent my entire LIFE working on my art skills, it's literally the driving force of my existence. And I'm STILL not even all that good at it, bc I never had lessons and can't afford high quality tools!!
I draw bc I love drawing. It's not an inherent talent or a skill that I paid for. I developed my abilities slowly over time, from when I was a little kid all the way thru to adulthood. I can't gatekeep art even if I wanted to - which I DON'T, and no artist ever would, bc sharing artwork with others can only enrich ur experience & skills!!
.....haha sorry, this just rly gets to me 😅
@@bbo7002 No worries, it really gets to me too😅 and exactly what you said, I draw bc I love it. It is a labor of love. It is a struggle sometimes when things are not looking the way I want to but that struggle is a uniquely human experience that I will gladly go through. Actually the struggle forces you to think your way out of a problem. Making art yourself encourages genuine problem solving skills and just general thinking. ai does none of that. In art, academics, etc, it is just promoting this concerning wave of anti-intellectualism
(now I'm starting to ramble too, sorry😅)
Thats a two way street though.
I know visual artists that are willing to have GPT write for them because "they are not writers."
It's not just a visual art thing, it's a purposful lack of collaboration.
last semester i had a Composition II college class. my professor had an entire course dedicated to using ChatGPT to HELP and not to DO ALL THE WORK FOR YOU
he was so creative and i learned alot from him. his thing was "students are already using AI to cheat, so instead of banning it i am going to show you how to use it correctly in a college setting"
im not a huge fan of AI or ChatGPT, especially as an artist, but that professor has my respect
What's sad is that Ai art gas so poisoned the well that actual artists with an uncommon style get accused of using Ai.😢
Yeah that also sucks
An argument I've seen pro-AI people use is that it's ablelist to be against AI because it gives disabled people a way to create art. It's not. It's the opposite actually. It's ableist to say disabled people need AI to create art. Disabled people who want to create art will find a way.
Fr!!! I’ve seen beautiful art painted by disabled artists using their mouths or feet
Also AI steals from disabled artists
I’m a disabled fiber artist and AI is poisoning my hobbies. Ai patterns are getting harder to distinguish from real patterns on images alone then you get the pattern and it’s complete gibberish. People ask for commissions and then show you an ai generated piece that there is no hope of recreating because it’s not physically possible. I don’t need ai to make my hobby more accessible I need ai to stop poisoning my hobby
Literally the useful AI there is stuff to read off screens, which has existed for decades already.
@@darkstarr984 oh bless screen readers 🙏
My school used AI to generate posters for their show season. Y'all. WE HAVE ART MAJORS WHO CAN ACTUALLY DRAW HANDS AND UNDERSTAND ANATOMY
I teach first year uni students. It is so depressing how many of them think nothing of using ChatGPT to write their essays or parts of essays for them.
As someone in uni, it is insane how many people use it for ideas, to do their homework for them to write essays or example essays for them. Makes me so upset when they do great on work they didn't do themselves
@@Amy-g2b Or when you know that they could do great work without it, but they still decide to use it for no reason. I have friends who really are some of the most intelligent and creative people I know, and who are totally capable of engaging with the coursework but just choose not to learn... :(
@@Lemon_E4Thisss!! I know so many smart people who have just given up on their own learning, it's so sad considering how much effort they put in just to get to uni in the first place
I work for a fashion brand and I love the brand soooo much because we are not allowed to use AI for any graphics or prints. Because AI is such a problem in the fashion industry our print and graphic designer has to have proof he created it with the design when it is sent to legal for approval. And honestly AI has nothing on him he’s amazing
I'm so sick of AI taking over everything. I'm at uni and like every third course is on the topic of AI. It's important to be educated about this stuff and some of the courses are even critical, but if I have to elect one more AI course out of lack of choice I'm gonna explode...
Coca-Cola has an ai generated ad. *Coca-Cola* has an *ai generated ad* .
Wtf.
They have SO MUCH money
Coca-cola has *_several_* ai ads. The christmas one is just getting all the press.
@bazzfromthebackground3696 that is disgusting! They can't even use the excuse of "saving money" it's just greed
5:17 Literally. As an artist, it's constant learning and experimentation. I do a lot of different mediums, drawing (regular and digital), painting and watercolours, crochet, metalworking small scale, ceramics (less so but sometimes handbuilding and wheelthrowing--tho I prefer handbuilding), oil pastels, charcoal, etc.
So like, yeah...that's years of learning, the privilege to have materials and places to learn, and some self taught skills and crafting as well. Soooo...yeah.
I take a photography class, and I was so excited for it, but literally the first assignment we had was to create an AI animal in adobe lightroom. I'm in the end of the first semester and we had an assignment to create a background and add ten elements to it in photoshop, ALL with AI. We've had several Photoshop AI assignments. It's so disheartening and I feel in no way connected to the "art". I would try to generate something, but the image would not be what I asked for. I wish our teacher would let us draw or take a picture (or even just use a stock photo!!) and edit it into a photo using Photoshop. It would feel so much more real and much more personal.
The part I find interesting is the lack of acknowledgement of how, if they succeed and AI replaces all creative jobs... what then? Your machine is now unable to learn anything new, because people have probably stopped bothering to create, or at least stopped bothering to SHARE their creations online. You now lack any data to train anything new off of, because people have likely given up honest creativity by that point. Whereupon, the bots will all start to die because, well. Now they're all cannibalizing off each other, which has been proven to make the machines OBJECTIVELY worse at their intended function. Noone's gonna wanna make art to shove it through a machine so IT can make art, either, because 'that's what the ai is for'. The people who can, won't, and people who can't, won't want to.
Either way, its future is to die, if the goal is to replace all, or even MOST, creative jobs with ai. It's not remotely sustainable, if the only 'sustainable' way NOW is to steal art en-masse and hope noone notices. What are the plans for when people just stop making art? None of the ai bros seem to have a plan for it, and I never see anyone talk about it.
Also GOD I never thought I'd live through Persona 5 Strikers but here we are on the cusp of it. Jesus christ.
I appreciate you talking about this as someone who taught myself art and animation. Especially being to a point where I'm happy with my art and put hours into it. I struggle to get commissions or sell my art and seeing people getting away with selling AI or using it to make money is very frustrating.
Okay, generative ai makes me sad. My creative writing teacher actually had us write everything on paper for straight up half of the class so she could know how we write before she let us touch computers. Like, she has said the previous teacher quit because he didn't want to deal with the generative ai. It's just disheartening that it's doing all this.
I'm so glad you brought up artists using AI to promote their art via album covers and such. I'm an audiobook voice actor and it's now become a new part of my job on top of everything else I already have to do to deep dive into every book I audition for and try to puzzle out whether or not I'm looking at a real book or a chat gpt book. You would think Audible would filter this stuff out but you would be wrong. Even the real books written by actual authors are using AI art on their book covers. And that's not even counting the books that don't even bother hiring a narrator because they'd rather use an AI voice to narrate. C:
Publishers who would use AI pics, would previously have used stock-images. So they are not paying any fewer artists.
@Mecharnie_Dobbs At least using stock images does minimal damage to the environment and isn't the product of art theft 🤷
Yesterday I saw people legit selling AI art posters at the mall, it was so annoying and infuriating to see that out in the world getting actual money
If AI has its own style, that you could recognise, then how can it be copying?
Shiny faces, even lightning, high contrast even between background elements, facial expressions either blank or exaggerated, a mixture of photorealism and cartoony.
Were they sexy?
I’ve seen people selling tshirts with ai “art”
@@Mecharnie_DobbsAi doesn't have its own style. That's literally oxymoronic.
Bait used to be good.
3:11 even ignoring ethical concerns, ive messed around with a few ai image generators and its SO DIFFICULT to get it to do what you want, even if i didnt know how to draw itd LITERALLY be easier to open up mspaint and make something there!!!!!!!! it doesnt understand colors, or adjectives, or ANYTHING, you ask it for a cat with a purple scarf suddenly the cats purple and the scarfs NOT??? u gotta prompt it a TON to get it to work even slightly if your request is any more specific than like, "cat in a spacesuit" or whatever garbage they advertise it can generate.
most uses for ai just seem like.. slop, like something that humans could do better but ai can do cheaper, so you know which one companies choose.
I recently finished Persona 5 Strikers. If ChatGPT starts talking about salvation, we're in trouble
As someone who hasnt finished the game yet, seeing how Yusuke verbally flayed Natsume for his travesty of a book made me really want him to have a heart to heart with Sophia about the nature of AI and what separates her from humanity. I don’t know what makes Sophia different from Emma, or even how much the story would've been impacted if the writers had seen just how AI would've exploded since the initial release.
I think AI is the beginning of the end of humanity because you cannot really live fully without human-made art and creativity...
"AI generated images" is a much better term to use than "AI art"
this is not art, its theft, its disgusting
Currently in the middle of a chemistry project that's absolutely kicking my ass. I'm this close to using chat GPT on it. But I know it's not worth it. Even if I get a shit grade at least it's honest
And you know what? Even if you get a shit grade, you get feedback on what you did wrong. You’ll have at least some indications of how to do better next time. Plus there’s no lies to keep up with, and no having to pretend you understand a subject better than you actually do.
The problem with cheating (and I do see using genAI for school as cheating) is that you have to keep doing it to keep up. If you don’t learn for real, you’ll end up in over your head.
@@bigjedimullet I probably am going to get a shit grade on my chem assignment. I've been asking for feedback as I go. I was told I put "too much information" in my slides. Then got told it was not enough. I know a good enough about what I'm writing about. I'm just frustrated with my damn teacher. That's why I wanted to use Chat GPT. But in the end I agree. Chat gtp IS cheating and I ain't no goddamn cheater
@@callmedanny535 Your teacher sounds frustrating! Just know there’s at least one person out there who’s proud of you for not giving up.
And hey, for what it’s worth, one of the greatest 19th century American painters-James McNeill Whistler-failed chemistry and got kicked out of West Point. I guarantee you none of the millions of people who go to museums every day to see his work give a shit about his chemistry grades! All this is to say, you have a lot more to offer than you know now.
@@bigjedimullet She is! Oh my god my chem teacher is so hypocritical! She told me I was her favorite student. Thank you but you shouldn't be saying that. Just to turn around and say I'm "A bad student but a good person." Iike the hell!? I showed my work to a few other teachers because I felt like I was losing my mind. They said it was perfectly fine and they any issues. My mom was also super pissed my teacher said I was a bad student
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Smoking a bowl for everytime Kiwi says art.
So, “fun” fact: the NATIONAL THEATRE in Prague actually used AI for an advertisement (tho they didn’t state that outright, it was quite obvious) of one of their ballets, and some time later a few of the changing rooms inside caught fire when they were practicing said ballet. Karma, as far as I’m concerned.
Fortunately nobody was hurt, as far as I know
I honestly think AI needs to be heavily regulated and in many cases outright banned. It is so harmful and predatory.
EXACTLY 100% I FULLY AGREE W YOU
...with regulations that small, upcoming competitors can easily comply with, rather than expensive licences aproved by politicians. More competition makes companies better behaved.
Generative ai definitely should
so many if my issues with people who swear by AI, specifically things like chatgpt, is that it is a glorified word predictor. it removes so much work ethic in students and people just entering the work force
No joke I got an ad for some AI “portfolio” creator program…right before this video discussing an Ai “writing” program…
HELP??????
"Art" made by artificial "intelligence". I wish we didn't use the purposefully misleading techbro terminology, when the fittingly intimidating phrase "machine image" is right there.
Oh my god I'm not kidding 7 minutes in right as you called for us to come together and mess up AI I got an AD FOR AN AI SERVICE, I got so instantly annoyed I opened up a Google doc and just typed nonsense. I'm on board.
one thing that makes me sad about ai, along with everything else, is that there are people who genuinely want to use it for good, like there are people making tools to try and help disabled people with things they may struggle with. but that's not what's getting coverage, because disabled people aren't seen as the "general public" that companies want to market to
Fun fact: "Holidays are Coming" song from the coke ad *is ALSO Ai generated.*
If AI is going to steal people's art, then we should give them something to steal. Make a bunch of Trump x Elon Musk mpreg ship art and then see if they care. I bet they'd want AI regulation after that
It wouldn't let me make "Trump eating a dog-sandwich" 😢😅
But we can 😂
I like to write, and my sister likes to create digital art. We both hate AI with a passion, because it can create an uncanny-valley facsimile of art, but it can’t capture the emotion of it. The AI problem has gotten so bad that professors nationwide are implementing anti-AI policies; if their students are found using AI instead of putting in the effort to make their own work, they’ll get a zero for the assignment.
It’s sad that Karl Marx was right; that the ruling capitalist class will resort to any means to keep the proletariat stuck in soul-crushing, low-paying jobs, and rid us of artistic expression. If he saw what society is like today, he’d damn us and say that we deserve our fate.
i hate ai so much, i really don't understand how people think it is a good idea to use for anything tbh. especially if you are in university/college, like why are you using ai to cheat on classes for your major
Not to mention writing papers by yourself can be so fun and helps you actually retain the information. With ChatGPT doing all that, you don't memorize it and can't formulate or understand professional papers. It basically dumbs people down
I mean some ai like the one in healthcare that can detect tumors is helpful, but generative ai is evil as hell
The irony of getting an ad for google AI image generation before this is not lost on me.
21:37 Shit...I hope these people get some support, and we can actually get machines to do these jobs some day so we don't torture people...
I had a bf is high school who would only use ChatGPT to do his homework and then whine and complain about how long I was taking to do my COLLEGE homework as well as my normal HS stuff. I'm not taking forever, I'm just ACTUALLY DOING IT.
I've only ever used AI in the form of grammar checkers or spotify DJ, which is programmed into those writing applications and the app. TBH, I never like the mixes spotify makes. I prefer just listening to my friends' playlists when I want something fresh.
Are people not embarrassed that they can't function????
Gonna be using scalpelGPT to become a skibidisurgeon 😭😭
I always reccomend this video now when talking about AI.
*Folding Ideas - "Line Goes Up."*
Replace all mentions of NFT in the documentary with AI and it's just as poignant.
I hate chatgpt. I work in marketing and Facebook tries to get me to use it in my ad descriptions. I know how to write an ad. Piss off
i messed around with gen ai before i fully processed just how awful it is, and it was always more trouble than it was worth. to get decent results took more effort than just using my brain, at least for writing. i can’t draw worth a crap but i’d rather use a pic crew or pay an artist than get the ai slop machine to create an image for me.
unfortunately, most people using ai don’t see it that way, and would rather put as little effort in as possible, so they end up using ai slop work to try and get ahead (in school, work, hobbies, social media presence, whatever). its honestly sad to see how many people have lost a love of simply creating and enjoying what makes us human: writing, reading others’ writing, making art - actually doing all of these things. :(
dude I HATE generative AI how much energy do u need to burn when u could literally just do it urself or look smth up 😭😭😭😭
EXACTY back in my day people had to put effort into cheating on their work or literally anything
You can now get AIs that run locally on your own computer, so they can't be burning that much. It just seems like a lot if you run all the world's AIs in the same place.
They are LLMs, not
"generative AI." Whatever they invent to more enery efficiently and ethnically replace LLMs, will also be generative. Your mom is generative.
After 15 years as a software engineer, AI is what made me call it quits. Not the only reason of course, but imo the entire field no longer has the capability to innovate or solve literally any of society’s problems. None of the people with the power to change the industry for the better have any interest in doing so, they’d rather bounce aimlessly between fads while lying to shareholders to make massive profits. There will be lawsuits about this tech in particular, someday.
my mom teaches Epidemiology had a student who wrote his whole Essay with ChatGPT, and the thing is the student was an OBGYN and I think a Labor & delivery nurse or doctor, I don't fully remember on the second part
Lotta people are failing out of uni for getting caught.
The rise in AI also increased class failure rates by ~20%.
My mother is a teacher teaching a lot of non-native speakers (refugees). The amount of students who only turn in ai generated texts and lie to my mother about having written them on their own has increased a lot, which bites them in the ass when they have to write their exams by hand.
I was already against ai even with my small knowledge on it because of damage it do to people but not to this extreme and now I'm fully disgust and even more against it... People who is comfortable with ai opporating you or trying to make you heal is darn stupid to me and I don't understand how you can be so brave and trustworthy on a robot with no human emotion and can corrupt any day and fucke things up... Holy cow man. Thanks for the knowledge and make me understand more, Queen!
your eyeshadow is fire!
The only thing I use ai for is to chat with my beloved game/show/book characters... I'm too anxious to rp with other people because of personal issues but I love writing little stories with someone, playing around with oc's and stuff. I just enjoy finding a bit of a character I feel bad for in media and just hanging out with them, I always cry to my friends about how much I want to wrap a blanket around a character and give them a hot chocolate and this is the only thing I use ai for lol
OMG THANK YOU FOR THIS! I can’t seem to get the point across that it’s not a reliable tool to replace Google search. It is very limited. I was once told to use Writing AI as an aide and it didn’t work for me. I fear I’m a Luddite about this topic. It’s not just paranoid old me saying this.
AI like ChatGPT should have only been used to find spelling and grammar mistakes, now they use it to replace so much. Why? Writing and creating art is the fun part. Why would I what a machine to steal that joy from me?
I'm in a teaching credential program in the United States. For our big teaching test, one of our professors suggested that we use ChatGPT to check our work (our professors aren't allowed to give us feedback). Most of my peers and I were like "Um....no thanks. We'll just ask other teachers and professors to proof read them." It's so scary that we were suggested to use it in a teaching credential program.
Thisss. But i gotta argue one point: It CAN be a great TOOL.
I dont stand ai but its literally the main thing helping me study. I miss alot of classes due to my body and i miss alot of time in my life due to it. In moderation, ai is really is helpful and such a time saver resource. I still do my research and i take pride in my work being 0% ai but sometimes i need the help figuring out where to start off or summerizing the topic or transcribing my class. I would be so severely behind my able bodied classmates if it werent for ai.
Some aspects should definitely halt eg, ai art can go away 100%. That crud is crud.
While I respect your position on the ethical side of AI, I've found that it's proven to be a massive improvement to my life and my productivity. For example, I use ChatGPT to transcribe audio from interviews, because I read faster than I can listen. I then also can use things like Ctrl+F to instantly search for keywords through the text, rather than having to scrub through a video file to find a specific quote.
I can also use AI features in audio editing programs to reduce background noise, reduce the length of pauses or stutters (which I have a tendency to do) or eliminate microphone bleed to clean up recordings before I publish them. I can trim literally minutes on interviews I've done with two clicks, once my audio editing program knows what I'm trying to target.
So while AI tools could definitely do with some much-needed regulation, it's unfair to say they don't provide any kind of utility in a practical sense. That's my take on it, but thanks for making this video regardless.
the thing is savanna was talking mainly about generative AI. Using AI like you use it, something to make information more accessable, but essentially you still do the research on your own, you don‘t let AI do your work entirely. Only additional big problem of AI is the harmful environmental and societal impact of AI, it‘s not sustainable for our future
Yeah this isn’t what she was talking about, but it’s interesting to hear this side too
I recently went to an art school to take a look at the Creative Writing department, and they shared the classes and all of that.
One of the classes integral to the course was AI in writing. I was so devastated: everything looked so cool otherwise but the second the teacher mentioned that in a positive way, my smile dropped.
The best thing I think chat gpt does is create lists or outlines.
I would never use it for writing assignments.
I used to to help me to make resume templates. Then I wrote it my resume myself.
a poet i really like is publishing a new book with an AI cover :((
That sucks :(
Speaking of the use of AI in art, last semester I wrote a paper about AI in the creative sector (visual art, music, literature, film-making, in particular) and I basically highlighted the same issue: that without proper regulation (among other things), the use of AI can basically run amok and leave creatives jobless and/or robbed of their creations.
Huh, i'll lay money that the copyright claim they threw at you was for the music and not the AI generated stuff - which is actually a pretty sneaky way of shielding the AI parts...
Is AI even making any money rn? I feel like it’s all just Wall Street investing hard into this until AI gets good enough that they can do mass layoffs of office workers
the ONLY time i’ve ever used chatgpt/gen ai was bc we had to use it for a university project and i don’t rlly intend to use it again. i don’t understand how so many of ppl i talk to in uni use it so much, i feel like they’re not understanding any of the content we’re supposed to be learning i feel so frustrated on their behalf 😭😭
I think it's a disservice to everyone to say AI generated images don't look good (and, tangent, let's not call them AI art, they're images, not art), if they didn't look good us artists wouldn't be worried about our futures. They are appealing, they look good, and that's why it's a problem, and they got good by stealing from very skilled real artists.
Oh yay. TIL that all my class papers and stuff are being scanned to help cheaters
I'm in high school and I don't use AI for anything, but I honestly can't blame some of my peers who do. It can be super difficult to force yourself to do all these assignments you don't see the point of for subjects you hate when you're really worn out. The knowledge that one serch away is a button you can press to just do it for you is super tempting, esspecially if it's 'just for that one assignment'. I'm super lucky to have a great support system, skills which apply pretty well to the school system, and a tutor who can force me to hand even my laziest work in, if I didn't have those would probably use AI too.
Heartfelt, I agree completely
i think it’s important to recognize that gen AI being used for ads isn’t just saving money for that single ad, it’s showing them they can run on a smaller team which will save them even more money in the long run and put tons of people (not just creatives) out of work >< that being said i’m also pretty sure they see gen AI being a trend rn so hopping on the bandwagon doesn’t seem like a huge issue on their end, being opposed to AI art is being drowned out by the sheer amount of art being generated and put on the internet and so that’s what they are seeing
I didn’t realise how reliant some people were being on chat gpt, until I was on the london underground a couple weeks ago. Someone comes up to my group asking how to get to a station that is clearly not along the line we are waiting for - when we cant help him he turns away and grumbles something, which is when I realised he had been using chat gpt to map out his tube route for him,, idk how people trust that thing without even doing a tiny bit of research to confirm,, :,)
i know the tube is complicated but if you just sit down and work it out before your trip it is not too bad, people are just becoming completely un-resilient and impatient because of this.
I'm a writer for magazines, I'm also the only one who also writes in their freetime. We're all in our mid-30s to early 40s, so an age where we're familiar with actually writing texts by ourselves, but several of my coworkers said they use chatgpt to write their articles. And I'm just so stunned. I immediately lost my respect for them.
We also have a page where us employees talk about stuff that happened in our lives (we're so relatable haha) and we're encouraged to mainly complain about stuff cause that's what gets the best reading times (I hate that). So last time I complained about generative AI. I'm not sure if it'll get printed like that, I was very clear with my stance and my bosses love AI cause it's probably the closest thing they ever had to intelligence.
i study at a university that focuses on IT and there are… a lot of AI-bros there to say the least. i remember having a philosophy class and our professor set up a debate theme “can AI art be called art” and it was THE MOST infuriating 1,5 hour in my entire life i swear. the saddest thing is my major is IT-design and we learn how to paint and stuff and i HOPED that people that study with me are on the same page with me but it’s so upsetting seeing my groupmates LITERALLY USE AI FOR ART ASSIGNMENTS. and those people are studying to become designers. i feel like we live in hell rn.
I've seen ads lately for the Gemini AI program on Google Pixel (I think) phones where you can chat with Gemini like in real time, as if you were talking... to a person. It's literally an AI phone call. I know people are lonely out there, but like. There is someone that everyone can call. Even if it's a friend you met via social media, surely there is A Human that you can speak to. It's just genuinely so sad to me to see them advertising an AI program that's literally just an on-demand phone call.
The coke ad is actually based off of (a copy of?) an actual ad they did a long time ago and the original looked really good
Wow, AI is worse than I thought. How tf can people defend it.
Generative ai can go die. But there’s quite a bit of useful other ai too, like the one that’s helping detect tumors
Just a slight correction to your intro about nft's. They didn't own the file. They owned a link to the file...
There's a certain name you can use to break ChatGPT. Ant question or comment related to this name will make ChatGPT unable to respond. Each chat ends abruptly. David something or other.
They patched that.
It's David Mayer.
Also
Brian Hood
Jonathan Turley
Jonathan Zittrain
David Faber
Guido Scorza
Dianne Hood
Jennifer Reali
They may not have rolled out the patches for all these names to all platforms yet, so hurry.
@Mecharnie_Dobbs Aww. That was fun:(
@@Mecharnie_Dobbs omg its the names of the people who are trapped in the ai
Our IT instructor pushes AI so hard even the students are protesting it. Everything from coding to software management he has the students use AI to find the solutions and it's so bad that I can't even recommend the class that's the reason I have a job now
The gamining industry aint safe either. Elon is about to make a studio that is develop games solely based on A.I
I mean knowing his track record there’s only like a 30% chance of him actually doing that if he doesn’t get sued into following through
"A.I. Images", not "Art". Let's normalize calling a spade a spade; and not continue to legitimize machine imagery.
27:33 one of my favourite things to do is make playlists based on characters (what songs i think they would listen to, songs i think fit their personality/story etc) and idk just being like "here is a character i love/relate to/see myself in, and i am going to spend my time carefully creating a playlist full of songs that make me think about them" is such a human thing to do, and i've seen people using ai for that?? like???? why would you use ai to create something that's so deeply personal to you?????
my mom runs a homeschool co op and she was a teacher for many years so she does a good job but now for the class she teaches she's been using fucking chat gpt to make the quizzes and ofc she edits them to be accurate but like what the fuck...another teacher did the same thing and somehow I am the only one who finds it weird, like wdym the students aren't allowed to use ai but then the teachers are using it????? I'm glad they know it can be wrong and aren't just printing out whatever it gives them without checking but still...is it that hard to make a multiple choice quiz??
AI artists don’t exist because the people posting AI art are AI clients and the AI itself does not create for anything, it does not create to tell a story or to convey an emotion or to celebrate a thing it cares about. It simply generates an output. That’s not an artist. That’s a machine.
i didnt know how much i needed to watch a pretty and visibly queer person ramble about what trash AI is, this was oddly relieving
I do think part of getting this fad to pass is to stop using language that legitimizes it's existence.
AI art doesn't exist. By definition AI cannot actually create art, art has to be made by humans.
For a while I was calling them AI images cause it's a more accurate statement, however lately I have heard some places call it AI slop and that is FAR more accurate.
It is so soulless and yeah like you said. why would I want to listen to music if the person couldn't even take the time to think of and hire artist to make a album cover... like if they don't care why should I? if you use Generative AI in one process i'm going to assume you use it anywhere you can. I don't want to support people like that.
But yeah great video discussing all the down sides! hopefully companies who continue to use it have a hit to their budget as people either don't resonate with the terrible ads or just want to avoid generative AI.
Granted I do hope one day someone tries to sue one of these companies for false advertising but yeah that probably wont happen. I can dream right?
@@Raichana Or maybe the musician thought that AI-pics are new and controversial and would stand out from the other album covers and get people's attention. And they're not wrong: you noticed. You felt it noteworthy enough to comment upon.
I agree on the stealing jobs part, but taking art to imitate it has always been around, that's how we've always done it. As such, as someone who writes and draws and paints, I don't feel stolen in any ways by AI. While a machine does not put intent in it, we add it to what we watch and I don't find a cloud any less artistic than a painting even though I do not believe in a big creator, so this also doesn't resonate in me.
Also, some artists are taking AI to make a commentary on it -I personally find Corinne Vionnet's art wholly uninspired, but it does have the intent that we put into art, as well as the social commentary aspect that's often been crucial in it.
Totally understand where you’re coming from and we certainly do need to be more ethical with it, but there is a lot of good in AI. AI is in our gps, in our phones when we unlock it with our face, in our video games, and so many more areas which we don’t even realize. Also, the possibilities for people with disabilities is endless with the help of AI. I do agree that we’re probably better off without generative AI though because it really does that make us lazy and it has too many ethical issues that make it difficult to defend 😭
on the NFT things, i’m a really small artist on instagram and i’ve gotten a few asks to “sell my art” for NFTs in the past year. definitely not super insanely common anymore, and yeah, GOOD RIDDANCE
who’s with sav who’s gonna write a bunch of nonsense in their google docs!!!
30:35 it detecting cancer is pretty cool. But thats not generative ai, so not exactly the same thing
Im truly pissed about this cause i like to post my art and write. It makes me mad that someone could just take people's hard work and say they own it