Bombardment of Alexandria 1882 - The Anglo-Egyptian War

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  • The bombardment of Alexandria, in Egypt by the Royal Navy was the first engagement of the Anglo-Egyptian war of 1882.
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    In the 1870's an ambitious modernisation programme by the Khedive of Egypt (Ismael Pasha) ended in bankruptcy for the country.
    On behalf of the country's many foreign investors, the British & French government's stepped in and forced Ismael Pasha to accept two of their nationals to run his economy.
    Aggrieved at the mismanagement of the country and this humiliating foreign presence, the army under Ahmed Urabi rose in revolt.
    A Royal Navy fleet of ironclad warships, under Admiral Beauchamp Seymour, arrived off the port of Alexandria to apply pressure to Urabi not to change the status quo.
    Urabi responded by re-enforcing the 11 forts in in the city with over 290 guns.
    Having issued an ultimatum to desist, Seymour opened fire on the 11th July 1882.
    The bombardment of Alexandria lasted for just over 10 hours.
    In that time the Royal Navy fired over 1,000 shells, putting all 11 Egyptian forts out of action.
    The suffered5 killed and 27 injured, whilst the Egyptians reported 150 of their soldiers killed and a further 400 wounded.
    Urabi withdrew from Alexandria and Seymour landed 500-600 to restore order in the city, which had suffered from looting and significant fires.
    The British now feared that Urabi would seize control of the Suez Canal, denying them their fast communication route to the British Empire in India and beyond.
    Determined to prevent this, they now dispatched an army under General Sir Garnet Wolseley to remove Urabi from power.
    Which sets us up nicely for my next video, the Battle of Tel El Kebir.
    By way of a side note, one of the Royal Navy captains present at the bombardment was John "Jackie" Fisher (on HMS Inflexible) who would go on to become an Admiral and First Sea Lord, just before the First World War.
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    0:00 Introduction
    1:44 Ismael Pasha
    4:00 Egypt bankrupted
    5:25 Ahmed Urabi Revolt
    8:18 French & British response
    10:25 Admiral Seymour
    12:26 Bombardment of Alexandria
    15:53 Results of Bombardment
    19:27 Criticism in Britain
    21:39 Towards Tel El Kebir
    22:58 The History Chap
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  • @Justme-xw4gs
    @Justme-xw4gs ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Once again this OLD MAN from America has totally enjoyed a video of history . I haven't heard of this period of world history
    since we were not taught these events in history class in our schools .
    I've always loved the history of many different nations.
    The history of the UK is something that I've ways found to be most interesting .
    Thank you for presenting these most enjoyable videos. I look forward to the next videos of history from the UK
    Once again thank you for taking the time to present these most informative videos of the history of the UK

  • @robhowarth77
    @robhowarth77 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    As always, very well presented and informative !

  • @jovanweismiller7114
    @jovanweismiller7114 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You amaze me! I've been studying British & Imperial history for well over 60 years & yet I learn something new from every one of your videos.

  • @cameronbrown9080
    @cameronbrown9080 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video today thanks Chris for taking us on this journey and I'm looking forward to seeing more about this hopefully you will be doing more on this one

    • @TheHistoryChap
      @TheHistoryChap  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Tel El Kebir coming at the end of this week.

    • @cameronbrown9080
      @cameronbrown9080 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TheHistoryChap thank you 😊

  • @jfh9219
    @jfh9219 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Excellent as usual!

  • @stigg333
    @stigg333 ปีที่แล้ว

    Brilliant story and great video, thank you very much Chris. Stay well.

  • @DarrenMarsh-kx8hd
    @DarrenMarsh-kx8hd 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Of all of your videos, this Anglo/Egyptian series stands out above the rest, well done sir, I look forward to your next series.

  • @justthetip7
    @justthetip7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great as always!

  • @BoerChris
    @BoerChris ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent presentation. It was really interesting to hear all the background to this event.

    • @TheHistoryChap
      @TheHistoryChap  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Glad you enjoyed it!

    • @BoerChris
      @BoerChris ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TheHistoryChap I like your style of presentation. It's punchy, without being over the top, and you give plenty of relevant facts without drowning the viewer in information. I look forward to future videos.

  • @AC-gm6bq
    @AC-gm6bq ปีที่แล้ว

    Superb once again

  • @joeritchie4554
    @joeritchie4554 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I found this history lesson very interesting. I learned a lot about how this war started, and how people's actions can lead to huge shifts in history.

    • @TheHistoryChap
      @TheHistoryChap  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Joe, that's one of the things I love about history.

  • @adankmeme651
    @adankmeme651 ปีที่แล้ว

    An Absolutely splendid channel!!! Glad to have discovered it today.

  • @adt70hk33
    @adt70hk33 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Another informative video about a subject I knew even happened. Well done again

  • @pabmusic1
    @pabmusic1 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good as ever. Thank you.

  • @IndianaDel1
    @IndianaDel1 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I have always found the Victorian ironclad navy fascinating (my sole foray in to "Steam Punk").
    As I understand it, Jackie Fisher, already noted as a gunnery expert in the RN, took some important lesson away from the bombardment. Namely an interest in the effectiveness of plunging fire. Both for shore bombardment and ship to ship engagement. I think that the burning the city due to over shooting was part of this (Although I doubt Fisher lost much sleep over it at the time).
    All this theory, demanded engagement greater ranges. Ultimately this fed in to the "all big gun" concept that was part of the Dreadnought revolution some two decades later.

    • @TheHistoryChap
      @TheHistoryChap  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks for sharing your thoughts on Jackie Fisher.

  • @Michael-ws7rc
    @Michael-ws7rc 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I didn’t know any of this; what an informative video. Thanks for what you do friend.

    • @TheHistoryChap
      @TheHistoryChap  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It’s my pleasure. Thanks for watching.

  • @TheMartymar1976
    @TheMartymar1976 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love your content, brilliant channel! Have you done an episode on Fashoda? That would be interesting.

  • @monochromebluess
    @monochromebluess ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Excellent video presentation. I look forward to the story of the battle of Tel El Kebir. My great grandfather was part of the Highland brigade who fought there and stayed on there afterwards in occupation. I have all his papers from the time so it will be interesting to compare. Keep these history lessons coming please.

    • @TheHistoryChap
      @TheHistoryChap  ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Hope you have had a chance to watch my video on Tel El Kebir. th-cam.com/video/q1l9AUm5dy4/w-d-xo.html

    • @monochromebluess
      @monochromebluess ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@TheHistoryChap I did indeed. Excellent presentation indeed. It was great to compare it to my great grandfathers papers and the regiment records. Many thanks.

  • @citizendisco
    @citizendisco ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow, didn’t know this bit of history. Thanks.

  • @paulwl3159
    @paulwl3159 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Excellent introduction to the subject. Well balanced, unbiased, with a good mixture of broad overview and biographical detail. Thank you

    • @TheHistoryChap
      @TheHistoryChap  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Glad you enjoyed my video

    • @paulwl3159
      @paulwl3159 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@TheHistoryChap Thank you again. I was left with one question. To what extent, if any, was France compensated for the loss of their dual control of the canal? Presumably they retained their 55% share but then found that it was effectively 100% under British control after Britain had established its protectorate?

  • @georgegoodyear9631
    @georgegoodyear9631 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Thank you for clarifying the historical background, as to why the British came to be so deeply involved with the destiny of Egypt; this was a set of circumstances of which I knew nothing. I will now view the video again, in order to mentally consolidate the major points of the story.

    • @TheHistoryChap
      @TheHistoryChap  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      George, glad you enjoyed this. I'm not glorifying the action (I hope) but trying to explain what happened, why it happened and why the world is like it is today.

  • @nledaig
    @nledaig ปีที่แล้ว

    Very good account of a largely forgotten episode

  • @neilpage901
    @neilpage901 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Well researched and told, Chris. I lived in Egypt and have walked the Alexandria seafront many times and indeed, have visited the Qaitbay Citadel (fort) on 3/4 occasions. It is wonderfully restored. There is some history told there but you filled in loads of gaps for me. Thank you.

  • @modelrailwaynoob
    @modelrailwaynoob ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good job

  • @nathanappleby5342
    @nathanappleby5342 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I must say, this video was a most unexpected but pleasant surprise! Thank you so much Chris for listening to the audience! Ismail Pasha certainly had good intentions initially, but overstretched himself which got him into trouble. One can understand the Egyptian's desire to be themselves but one has to understand the concerns of the Europeans. They wanted their money back but Ismail just didn't have the proper mind to do it. I would consider Tewfik to be a good person and the Egyptians should have paid more attention to what was going on in their own government. Even though Ismail was out of power by then, as for the Anglo-Egyptian War as a whole, as for him and his ministers, it was essentially their fault as they didn't seem to understand finance. As for the bombardment itself, I wish the British had better aim as it would have decreased the amount of civilian damage done. Beresford had a lot of nerve getting his ship to within point blank range of the Egyptian fort. Sir Douglas Haig was of the belief that the Egyptians could make good soldiers and this occasion proved it when they fought the British for as long as they did. It was stupid of the Egyptians to continue the fight from the one fort the following day and even more stupid of the British to fire on the Egyptian forts when their white flags were still raised in violation of war rules. The captain of the ship that commenced the firing should have been court-martialed. As for the sailor who threw that live shell overboard with his bare hands and got awarded the Victoria Cross for the feat, it sounds exactly like what the one Irish sailor did back in the Crimean War got the same reward for it. In quite a number of the battles I have read about, it seems common for the wounded to outnumber the dead. I can understand the views of Gladstone, Bright, and Richards. The British should not have had to go there. But they did due to the corruption and incompetence of the Egyptian government and they could not afford to lose their canal. LOOK FORWARD TO TEL-EL-KEBIR! Been waiting for that one for a while.

    • @TheHistoryChap
      @TheHistoryChap  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Nathan, thanks for taking the time to post that in-depth and well thought through comment. Tel El Kebir being released on Friday 11th November

  • @fredazcarate4818
    @fredazcarate4818 ปีที่แล้ว

    Brilliant video Sir, and by your narrative you have brought to life miscalculations of Europe and Great Britain's leadership. Nor should we forget poor diplomacy. I thoroughly enjoyed the presentation. I have simply runout of superlatives. Thank you for presenting another gem Sir. Kudos!

  • @kmorton54
    @kmorton54 ปีที่แล้ว

    Chris excellent video as usual. How about a video about Jacky Fisher. Very interesting person

    • @TheHistoryChap
      @TheHistoryChap  ปีที่แล้ว

      I will add to my list.

    • @kmorton54
      @kmorton54 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TheHistoryChap Sir, you are a man among men, a pillar of light against the darkness of ignorance, a bon vivant, etc. etc.

  • @MrBook123456
    @MrBook123456 ปีที่แล้ว

    good one

    • @TheHistoryChap
      @TheHistoryChap  ปีที่แล้ว

      Glad you enjoyed. Thanks for watching.

  • @nigeldeforrest-pearce8084
    @nigeldeforrest-pearce8084 ปีที่แล้ว

    Fascinating!!!

  • @JamesThomas-gg6il
    @JamesThomas-gg6il ปีที่แล้ว

    I knew of Jackie fisher, just didn't know about his effort here. I was surprised when you said his name and I wondered if it the same man I have read about, and yes it is. Thank you chap

  • @billevans7936
    @billevans7936 ปีที่แล้ว

    Well Done❤

  • @J1M99
    @J1M99 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    A video lord Thomas crochran (the wolf of the sea) would be great to see. Love what you do,

    • @TheHistoryChap
      @TheHistoryChap  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thank you for the suggestion

  • @derickl436
    @derickl436 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Perhaps the European investors should have been reminded that “the value of investments can go down as well as up. Your investment is at risk”.

    • @TheHistoryChap
      @TheHistoryChap  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for taking the time to comment.

  • @AgentGB1
    @AgentGB1 ปีที่แล้ว

    Oh wow, even trivia about West Ham!

  • @joeshmoe8345
    @joeshmoe8345 ปีที่แล้ว

    Cool

  • @perrydowd9285
    @perrydowd9285 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks so much for this Chris.
    I couldn't help thinking about Africa today, desperate for the investment needed to modernise and the investors know it.
    The investor countries see cheap resources as their goal; that means controlling the land. We all know where that leads. The colonial powers have been losing wars from Bosnia to Vietnam for over a century because they fell for the same trap as the investors are today.
    It begs the question, how can we learn from history when today's circumstances give you no choice but to repeat it?

    • @TheHistoryChap
      @TheHistoryChap  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Perry, what a great question. I hope people will contribute.

  • @eyesofisabelofficial
    @eyesofisabelofficial ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great talk, putting things into context.
    Other subjects could be the Anglo-French-Russian peacekeeping mission to Navarino in 1827, and the freeing of the white slaves by the French invasion of Algiers in 1830.

    • @TheHistoryChap
      @TheHistoryChap  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      White slaves are on my list. Will tie in with the Barbary pirates abducting people from Cornwall.

    • @eyesofisabelofficial
      @eyesofisabelofficial ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TheHistoryChap The books "White Gold" by Giles Milton (2004) and "Breaking the Chains" by Tom Pocock (2006) give spirited tellings of the White Slave trade as does "The Great Game by Peter Hopkirk (1990) from the Russian Empire's not insubstantial losses in the southern steps.

  • @tomtaylor6163
    @tomtaylor6163 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great story . Another example of how politicians make things worse

    • @TheHistoryChap
      @TheHistoryChap  ปีที่แล้ว

      Service men and women dies due to politicians decisions.

  • @davidstokes8441
    @davidstokes8441 ปีที่แล้ว

    One Englishman at the centre of the Suez Canal issues, as a friend of the de Lesseps of France, Disraeli and the Kadiff its purchase and subsequent belligerences was my GGG Grandfather, Major General Sir John Stokes RE, KCB. Stokes went on the serve in the Danube Commission as well as a number of diplomatic posts.

    • @TheHistoryChap
      @TheHistoryChap  ปีที่แล้ว

      david, thank you so much for sharing.

  • @polvereoro86
    @polvereoro86 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Feels wired to visualize this bombardment took place in my home town , in streets I daily roam

    • @TheHistoryChap
      @TheHistoryChap  24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Thanks for watching my video

  • @mahmoud1882
    @mahmoud1882 ปีที่แล้ว

    What about kafr eldawar battle before el tal el khabir

    • @TheHistoryChap
      @TheHistoryChap  ปีที่แล้ว

      Tell that story in my video about the battle of El Teb.

  • @GuineaPigEveryday
    @GuineaPigEveryday 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Fantastic videos, hoping to watch this whole playlist you have on Egypt and Sudan campaigns, Victorian era military campaigns are utterly fascinating, I love the book by Byron Farwell called 'Queen Victoria's Little Wars' that I'm sure you've read plenty of, it's a shame that we won't see these sort of campaigns in future films any time soon, Khartoum is a great historical epic, but past that there is the 1939 Four Feathers and its poorly received reboot. Historical epics in Hollywood are dead, and the few that still get made are by directors who refuse to even read up on history, like Ridley Scott or whatever moron made The Woman King, so ahistorical it hurts, I dread to think what Antoine Fuqua's new hannibal film with Denzel Washington will be like. Sorry to be so cynical, just as someone who loves history, doing my masters on it now, and loves historical films, I'm just glad youtubers like you carry on the legacy of military history.

    • @TheHistoryChap
      @TheHistoryChap  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks for watching my video & for your feedback

  • @BHam336
    @BHam336 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Another video from the History Chap, over lunch, don’t mind if I do….

  • @arfurwitt6221
    @arfurwitt6221 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    A great General Knowledge question:- Name a country that Britain has not fought against. Is there one? We even enjoy fighting each other in the pub!

    • @TheHistoryChap
      @TheHistoryChap  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I am going for Mongolia as my starter for 10.

  • @Alfonzridesagain
    @Alfonzridesagain ปีที่แล้ว

    That Welsh accent 🤣🤣
    I didn't know anything about this incident - it's always fascinated me the way the various European imperial powers collaborated so actively and openly in the decades before the First World War. The Taiping rebellion and various affairs in Egypt spring to mind but there are other examples. A shame that had to be ended by total global conflict.

    • @TheHistoryChap
      @TheHistoryChap  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for taking the time to add your comment.

  • @11buster1000
    @11buster1000 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    As you go though it you can see the roots of all that is bad today.

    • @TheHistoryChap
      @TheHistoryChap  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      We are prisoners of our history.

  • @rorymac7714
    @rorymac7714 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have a medal awarded to my grandfather who was in the Royal Navy and served in the fleet at that bombardment

  • @ianherd569
    @ianherd569 ปีที่แล้ว

    Does "Anglo" include Wales, Scotand and Ireland?

    • @TheHistoryChap
      @TheHistoryChap  ปีที่แล้ว

      It does. Its one of those strange historical terms that is used to describe British military campaigns.

  • @reaver1414
    @reaver1414 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Bled them dry with their loans......that's a new one. I'm sorry for lending you money....I'm sorry you aren't paying me back.....all my fault.

    • @TheHistoryChap
      @TheHistoryChap  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Hard to feel sorry for the investors.

  • @mrpickles3479
    @mrpickles3479 ปีที่แล้ว

    It’s a shame those men aren’t patrolling the channel right now, because if they were, the story of today would be different…

    • @TheHistoryChap
      @TheHistoryChap  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you for taking the time to comment

  • @simplyphil.photography164
    @simplyphil.photography164 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    All to do with money and power, once again and greed of Nations

  • @user-qf7ji4xi7d
    @user-qf7ji4xi7d 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    In 1807, the Brits tried to capture Alexandria but it ended up horrible for them. The Brits lost 900 killed, 200 wounded and 500 captured who were condemned to hard labor and became slaves.
    Egypt was a province of the Ottoman Empire but an autonomous vassal and
    most of the Egyptian force fighting the British were native Egyptians (fellahin).

    • @TheHistoryChap
      @TheHistoryChap  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Interesting. Thanks for sharing - especially about the slaves.

    • @user-qf7ji4xi7d
      @user-qf7ji4xi7d 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@TheHistoryChap you are very welcome. Unfortunately since the 1952 movement, Egypt has become a totalitarian military state with widespread police brutality, human rights violations and corruption. The Supreme Council of the Armed Forces (which succeeded the Revolutionary Command Council which was preceded by Free Officers Movement) rules Egypt via dictators. These dictators never spent money on social programs like education, which prompted me as an Egyptian to use the internet to learn more about my country and worldwide history. Yes in 2011 we managed to get rid of Mubarak and got the chance to elect our first civilian President who was educated at California State University, Northridge which marked a significant transition from the uneducated military officers that ruled Egypt since the 1950’s. However the democratic transition that was implemented after the revolution was disrupted by the 2013 Coup D’etat that overthrew the democratically elected government and reimposed the military dictatorship. Finally, your research was actually pretty decent and I really enjoyed your video, much appreciated sir. 🙏

  • @davidmurphy8364
    @davidmurphy8364 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Aaah so I take it this is why West Ham are the hammers? Cause of the steelworks🙂👏

    • @TheHistoryChap
      @TheHistoryChap  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thanks for watching my video

  • @ssrmy1782
    @ssrmy1782 ปีที่แล้ว

    Had no idea we bombarded a city founded by Alexander The Great. Feel bad about it.

    • @TheHistoryChap
      @TheHistoryChap  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for taking the time to comment

  • @beardedraven7285
    @beardedraven7285 ปีที่แล้ว

    14:30 I hope this guy doesn't have a gun jam on him nearly causing a military disaster.

    • @TheHistoryChap
      @TheHistoryChap  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ha ha, I am chuckling. Watch this one to find out: th-cam.com/video/lAi4NZsLvOU/w-d-xo.html

  • @dougearnest7590
    @dougearnest7590 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank goodness the Library was already destroyed, or that would have been Britian's fault too.

  • @copferthat
    @copferthat ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Nobody asked them to take out ridiculous loans you know, and in many ways they were the architects of their own troubles, however, Egypt for the Egyptians.

    • @TheHistoryChap
      @TheHistoryChap  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you for taking the time to comment.

  • @bullettube9863
    @bullettube9863 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Talk about gunboat diplomacy! The heck with gunboats Seymour said, I'll use battleships! But diplomatically, this battle and the European colonial model would leave a bad taste in the mouths of Egyptians that is still there today. The Suez crisis and Britain's era of unilaterally acting on it's own ended when America's president Eisenhower and the United Nations intervened. What would have happened if Britain had sympathized with Egypt in 1882, and moved to alleviate it's finances instead? Would the Suez crisis have happened?

    • @Planet_Xplorer
      @Planet_Xplorer ปีที่แล้ว +2

      As an Egyptian I can confirm that the bad taste is still there till today. We will never forget the British crimes. I was born free but my grandfather had to fight the Brits so that I'd be born free.

    • @TheHistoryChap
      @TheHistoryChap  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I also wonder how things could have turned out.

  • @Clipgatherer
    @Clipgatherer ปีที่แล้ว

    Admiral Charles Beresford gained notoriety for punching the Prince of Wales, who had been having an affair with Beresford's wife.

  • @70galaxie
    @70galaxie ปีที่แล้ว +1

    fella spends until he's lost all credibility & face. rebel leader,"lets take on the British navy". jeezsh!

  • @johnstanford4703
    @johnstanford4703 ปีที่แล้ว

    Absolutely fantastic 67 and still learning how the British empire Did great damage to our relationships with other countries . I might be reading too much into it. You were not biased by any stretch of the imagination. But you can see why we needed the Suez Canal to bring in the cash . divide and rule why they were killing one another They won’t kill on us

    • @TheHistoryChap
      @TheHistoryChap  ปีที่แล้ว

      John, thanks for contributing. History is so much more complex than some people try to make it.

  • @LonelyRanger902
    @LonelyRanger902 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It’s obvious where the Americans learned their ongoing global gunboat diplomacy

    • @TheHistoryChap
      @TheHistoryChap  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you for taking the time to comment

  • @Planet_Xplorer
    @Planet_Xplorer ปีที่แล้ว +3

    As an Egyptian I'm proud of my ancestors who fought the British thiefs with bravery.

    • @TheHistoryChap
      @TheHistoryChap  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Thank you for taking the time to comment.

    • @Planet_Xplorer
      @Planet_Xplorer ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@TheHistoryChap Thanks for your video. Really liked that you are always respectful to the other side and not trying to brag about colonialism. Unfortunately all of the conflicts in the Middle East are a direct consequence of that dark chapter in history. As an Egyptian I find that the police state I'm living in has actually been founded by the opressive colonial system.

    • @dougearnest7590
      @dougearnest7590 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you for your comment. It's often beneficial to be reminded of the human faces on the other side of a conflict. I get the impression you don't like the British. Do you also hate the French? What about the Turks (Ottomans) who colonized most of that part of the world for centuries - do you hate them, too? I'm curious to know if your ancestors who fought against the British also invaded Sudan - or Ethiopia. Did they build any schools and hospitals while they were there, or provide a foundation for governing themselves? And what about your own leaders throughout history that treated your ancestors like slaves, and whose greed, corruption, and fiscal irresponsibility enabled (even invited) the evil Europeans in?
      Or is only British colonialism evil?

    • @Planet_Xplorer
      @Planet_Xplorer ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@dougearnest7590 Thanks for your comment. I do not hate anyone as "people" be it British, French, or Turk. However, what I hate is colonialism and occupation of any kind. Basically anyone who comes to my country with a weapon is my enemy and I'd defend my country as you'd defend yours. My ancestors did not invade Sudan or Ethiopia...it was the British who did so. Egypt was under British occupation at the time, remember? As for "our leaders" we never had true leaders that actually were elected by people except for a very short period in 2011 after the Arab Spring. Literally all of them till this very day were dictators who were mostly installed and supported by Western colonial powers for protecting Western interests. In Egypt we call this 'local occupation sponsored by foreign occupation' as opposed to foreign occupation. Unfortunately those dictators learned how to establish a true police state from the tactics that the British and French used to oppress the Egyptians so yes, the colonialism regardless of its source is the foundation of the evil we're living in today. Let me ask you a question...what do you feel about the Nazis who were trying to occupy Britain?

    • @dougearnest7590
      @dougearnest7590 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Planet_Xplorer
      Thank you for your response. Let me begin by (a) complimenting you on your command of the English language (I’m jealous that I don’t have that gene that enables people to learn additional languages, even though I’ve tried), and (b) I do not look on this conversation as adversarial. To me it is an opportunity to learn new things and broaden my horizons, while at the same time reevaluate my own beliefs and values and practice defending the things I believe in (and making sure they're worth defending.)
      I’ll start with the direct question you asked me -how do I feel about the Nazis that were trying to occupy Britain? That’s easy - I am not in favor of the Nazis or in general evil totalitarians bent on conquest. But I’ll take it a step further - I also recognize the rise of Nazism in Germany (and other European nations) was a response to the threat posed by the spread of communism. Unlike Gandhi, however, I would not urge everyone to simply give in to German (and Japanese) aggression. His hatred for the British was so intense he was blinded to the fact that unless you stand up to Evil, then Evil will win. Ironic since he is so well known for standing up to "evil" - but an evil that allowed him to exist and protest. If he were trying the same thing in the Soviet Union or Communist China, we wouldn't even know his name.
      It’s pretty well known to most of the Western world what happened to the European Jews who didn’t escape Nazism. Perhaps less well known is what happened to the victims of the hugely racist Japanese in their war of conquest. So while communism was the bigger threat, fascism was the more immediate threat.
      While we now have little to fear from the ideological descendents of Hitler and Mussolini, untold millions have continued suffering and dying under the hate-filled rule of the totalitarian fascists who style themselves as socialists and communists. For every evil thing that happened in the Second World War, I put as much blame on the communists as I do on Nazi Germany and Imperial Japan.
      I hope that answers your question.
      So it appears (quite reasonably) that you would prefer Western style democracy over being ruled by a colonial power as Britain was. But as you stated, even before the British came your country never had democracy. Even when you had elections, the elected officials were still corrupt puppets of the colonial power Once the British were gone you still felt the oppression because it was the British who taught your elected officials how to be corrupt. (Yes, I know I’m paraphrasing.) Well, here’s the deal - man (by that I mean “mankind”, to include all those other genders) is sinful by nature. Some of us are less sinful than others, but still sinful. As soon as a good law is passed, bad men will look for legal ways to subvert the law. If they can’t find a legal way to do it, they’ll do it by illegal means. That is the nature of humanity. So I submit to you the British did not teach your current crop of politicians to be greedy and corrupt - it came naturally to them because they were human. They would have figured out a way, just as corrupt politicians did long before the British Isles were inhabited. It isn’t the political system the British gave you that enables the corruption. It is everywhere this side of Heaven, regardless of left or right, authoritarian or anarchist.
      You said you had democracy in Egypt for a little while following the Arab Spring, but who did you have to select from when you voted, and what did they do with the power they were given, and why do you no longer have democracy?
      I think the British are a convenient excuse people who want to be angry, and who can easily and conveniently downplay the contributions the British have made. (I’m not British by the way - my ancestors also fought against the Empire.) Did you know there are former British colonies that were granted independence (no war required) who have large populations of people wishing they still belonged to Britain? Not the sort of thing the leftist-controlled Western media likes to report.
      I think hating the British for colonialism is like hating American "imperialism" - it’s certainly in vogue, but then when disaster strikes don’t start looking for Saudi Air Force cargo planes to fly in medical personnel, or Chinese container ships to bring food, blankets, and drinking water - even though they can afford it a hell of a lot easier than we can. As I said, some people are less evil than others.

  • @mohamedaladham9
    @mohamedaladham9 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    You did not mention the crimes committed by Europe against the people of Egypt and the other peoples of its colonies, including killing, plundering, injustice and torture. Sorry, but you did not gain my respect nor the respect of anyone who saw his people being oppressed by the Europeans.

    • @TheHistoryChap
      @TheHistoryChap  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks for your feedback

  • @princerupert6161
    @princerupert6161 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Egypt for the Egyptians! Britain for the British! If not, why not? I could almost smell the avacrdo on toast arising from this woke leaning re-telling of history.

    • @TheHistoryChap
      @TheHistoryChap  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for taking the time to add your comment.

  • @tbwpiper189
    @tbwpiper189 ปีที่แล้ว

    The Europeans....who built the Suez Canal.

    • @TheHistoryChap
      @TheHistoryChap  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I think Egyptians did the hard work. Europeans designed and oversaw the construction (plus financed it).

    • @ahmadfathy7994
      @ahmadfathy7994 ปีที่แล้ว

      Lol Egyptian build the canal by our grandparents blod