Meta's Futuristic VR Designs, Summarised

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  • Video that's summarised: • Hands-On with Meta's N...
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    • VRLA Summer Expo 2016:...
    0:00 - Intro
    1:48 - Meta's 'Vision' of VR
    2:39 - High resolutions (Butterscotch)
    4:14 - Foveated rendering
    4:47 - Varifocal lenses (Half Dome)
    6:39 - Brightness and HDR (Starburst)
    8:32 - Small and comfortable (Holocake 2)
    9:16 - Software and distortion
    10:44 - Summary
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  • @jack3489
    @jack3489 ปีที่แล้ว +710

    Real time eye tracking is going to be a Pandora’s box for advertisers. Imagine an ad that would only play if it knew your eyes were looking at it. Can’t wait

    • @LukieLuke5
      @LukieLuke5 ปีที่แล้ว +123

      What about the prototype that was going to require people to standup and say the name of the product before the advertisement ended.

    • @amnesicpachyderm
      @amnesicpachyderm ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Don't forget the totalitarian regimes who will use this data to fuel models that predict deviancy and subversive behavior!
      It's scary. But then again even on the modern web your every move is tracked by advertisers and big corporations. Your browser has a pretty unique fingerprint that when combined with your IP or other information can reliably identify you even if you aren't logged in anywhere. Probably even if you're using a VPN (and that VPN provider will get all of that same data). That nightmare is real, and not too far off eye tracking.
      People (anyone on this website included, especially logged in users) are absolutely willing to give up privacy in return for some useful tool or enjoyable product. That is the path that tech is leading us down... for better or worse.
      I suppose there are ways to try and preserve privacy and anonymity. Encryption being a crucial part of that toolset which isn't going anywhere, but it seems like trying to stay truly anonymous will eventually present so many downsides that basically no one chooses to live that way. Even if you are able to anonymize your activity that in and of itself could constitute a social faux pas or legally dubious behavior.

    • @jonessii
      @jonessii ปีที่แล้ว +101

      just make the ad always be in the center of your vision and make the straps tighten automatically to make removal impossible during viewing. simple really

    • @Nate-bd8fg
      @Nate-bd8fg ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@LukieLuke5 lol you say that like that was a real prototype? Was it?

    • @jayde_d
      @jayde_d ปีที่แล้ว +50

      @@Nate-bd8fg it wasnt a prototype, its an infamous patent by mcdonalds(?) that specified a TV set that would only let an advertisment end with user interaction, it featured an illustration of someone watching television standing up say say "McDonalds!" to let whatever you were watchig continue. it never really passed the patent stage for p obvious reasons, and unskippable online ads dripfed thru content is popular now anyways so i doubt it will become a real thing.

  • @krinos1
    @krinos1 ปีที่แล้ว +373

    Cant WAIT for man made horrors beyond my comprehension

    • @Nate-bd8fg
      @Nate-bd8fg ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah it's unfortunate both the technology and it's use in war of nuclear tech is well understood. Because now we have to wait for the next incomprehensibly awful technology

    • @Tensho_C
      @Tensho_C ปีที่แล้ว +1

      you can technically already torture people with VR

    • @alwaysyouramanda
      @alwaysyouramanda ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Or even AI-made!

    • @FaultyTwo
      @FaultyTwo ปีที่แล้ว

      Ah sweet!

    • @woosix7735
      @woosix7735 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      wait i thought HL: Alyx was released like 2 years ago?

  • @nmhpyt
    @nmhpyt ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Imagine getting hacked, and it just shining a fucking 420kw sun beam into your pupils 💀💀

  • @Kamil_O
    @Kamil_O ปีที่แล้ว +494

    in future everyone will have mattresses on walls, to not hit walls while in VR

    • @robertwyatt3912
      @robertwyatt3912 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      In the future, you won’t be hitting the walls in vr

    • @martynaspaukste2583
      @martynaspaukste2583 ปีที่แล้ว +34

      We will have gone past the need for walls in the future

    • @underscore_535
      @underscore_535 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      where we're going, we don't need walls

    • @pog428
      @pog428 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      You'd rather own A mattress to lie on together with the VR and nothing more
      You'll eat ze bugz and be happy

    • @MisterS.
      @MisterS. ปีที่แล้ว +6

      And mattresses on floor to sleep

  • @fxzn
    @fxzn ปีที่แล้ว +47

    so many VR youtubers out there, all have been doing nothing but read news articles and sprinkle in a bit of reactions in between.
    i'm so glad to have you actually bring me such interesting information i would have never heard of otherwise.

  • @tiernanmccarthy
    @tiernanmccarthy ปีที่แล้ว +398

    As much as I hate Meta, it's such a shame the Quest 2 is so bloody good. If I'm not using it at work I'm messing about with it in my own time. It's exactly how I imagined VR as a kid

    • @ObitoUchihaisgay
      @ObitoUchihaisgay ปีที่แล้ว +7

      What do you do for work with a quest 2?

    • @tiernanmccarthy
      @tiernanmccarthy ปีที่แล้ว +60

      @@ObitoUchihaisgay I work for an infrastructure company that has a small department for Unity Developers. We illustrate CAD models in VR or create little simulations for them. The Quest 2 being the cheapest headset for its quality by far has made it fairly appealing, I've been trying my best to convince them to purchase more of them for general use. The Vive is just too clunky and not suited for what they need.
      Otherwise it's great for just developing normal VR applications, OpenXR can handle all the inputs and niches of each platform, so it really doesn't matter what headset you develop for, which is great.

    • @tarakivu8861
      @tarakivu8861 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Padlock_Steve Stealing your data and using it to manipulate you.. that goes far beyond the levels of cringe..
      "But i dont use it" Oh they still track you. Even without your consent.

    • @tenkrow
      @tenkrow ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@Padlock_Steve what do you mean by cringe? I see this word thrown around so much I don't even know what it means anymore.

    • @lukasg4807
      @lukasg4807 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@tiernanmccarthy well it's only so cheap because it's a loss leader. Facebook sells it 200 dollars under what others would charge and makes the money off the app store

  • @somerandomguy___
    @somerandomguy___ ปีที่แล้ว +685

    This looks really facinating.
    Can't wait to see all the dystopian ways corporations use all this! (No, I don't)

    • @putyograsseson
      @putyograsseson ปีที่แล้ว +31

      There is a scene in the recent Ghost in the Shell SAC_2045 season, where a woman is standing in front of a little food stand, waving her hand in front of her face from time to time, as to keep some flies away.
      The viewer gets to see that scene a few times from slightly different angles.
      However, near the end of the episode, the view drastically changes for a brief moment, into the pov of the woman, revealing that she, all this time, swiped some pop up ads from her peripheral away.
      When I saw that little glimpse, it blew my mind.

    • @ImpressionismFTW
      @ImpressionismFTW ปีที่แล้ว

      Is right now the time that humanity will destroy itself to avoid this future?

    • @somerandomguy___
      @somerandomguy___ ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@ImpressionismFTW both. Its on the path to self-destruction but it takes years, decades. The problem is that its too slow for the human brain to notice
      But no matter what you think it will turn out to be, treat it like we're in a superposition. Treat it like the future is never determined already, but is determined by weather or not we do something about it, or give up.
      Mind you, for this kind of situation, giving up and not doing anything is something we do daily on a routinely basis. The only group I know that is the oppisite is Extinction Rebellion

    • @CarrotConsumer
      @CarrotConsumer ปีที่แล้ว

      @@somerandomguy___ opposite*

    • @WindFireAllThatKindOfThing
      @WindFireAllThatKindOfThing ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Honestly, it's just the same thing with a new coat of paint.
      Internet, Radio and Television hurling commercials at everyone and snooping for sales patterns. Billboards on every compliant surface.
      Not a damn thing has changed since the first radio ad broadcast in 1922, or the first printed ad on papyrus in Egypt around 3000 bc.

  • @LambdaTF2
    @LambdaTF2 ปีที่แล้ว +341

    With all the data surrounding eye-tracking I would imagine there would be countless new ways to categorize people. I'm sure an AI program could use this data in incredible ways whether it is good or bad.

    • @prebenjaeger
      @prebenjaeger ปีที่แล้ว +136

      Don't worry, it'll be bad.

    • @Wockes
      @Wockes ปีที่แล้ว +20

      Can't wait for VR ads in real life when I'm on the subway going to work

    • @Shiodiodia
      @Shiodiodia ปีที่แล้ว +49

      cant wait to be categorized for glancing some random furry art piece 💀

    • @TheCommissarIsDead
      @TheCommissarIsDead ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@Shiodiodia “yiff makes me stiff” 😂😂 some guys name on Valorant I saw the other day 💀😭😭😭

    • @Tyradominus2000
      @Tyradominus2000 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      well it’s facebook so don’t worry it will be a very bad use

  • @abhitruechamp
    @abhitruechamp ปีที่แล้ว +110

    Said it before, and gonna say it again: Meta is the last company you'd want to make your VR headset.
    Having said that, this stuff is truly exciting, so I am torn.

    • @zwenkwiel816
      @zwenkwiel816 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      which is kind of funny cuz it's also the reason they're the only ones who can really do it right now. getting this tech made and making it popular within the mainstream is going to require a really big investment up front with no real profits in the near future seeing how they're selling headsets at a loss and have a lot of R&D costs.
      like a traditional hardware company wouldn't do shit like this but facebook with it's giant bank account and hunger for personal data is like the perfect company to foot this bill....

    • @williamrutherford553
      @williamrutherford553 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      Nah, the headset is hardware. The problem with Meta is the software and the ecosystem. If you can hack the headset to not require a Meta account and to use SteamVR, you have the best of both worlds.

    • @cola98765
      @cola98765 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      Admiring Meta's headsets is for me like gushing over Russian planes... it's a very cool tech, but it leaves a bitter taste when you think why it's being made.

    • @abhitruechamp
      @abhitruechamp ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@zwenkwiel816 that's not true. I'd be more comfortable with Google, or even Microsoft to handle this than Facebook. The problem with them for me, isn't that they are the "Big tech" it's that they are the most nefarious company I can think of that is allowed to exist. Yeah, Microsoft is pretty uncompetitive too, but meta is the worst in my eyes.

    • @abhitruechamp
      @abhitruechamp ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@cola98765 pretty on the point comparison.

  • @Kekatronic
    @Kekatronic ปีที่แล้ว +98

    I'm a little worried that meta is gonna do so much work advancing vr that they'll own a whole layer of technological progression, it would give them a tight grip around their tech advantage when it comes to vr, they might be paving the way for vr but it might just be paving a path from our hands to the banks of facebook.

    • @lHateTrance
      @lHateTrance ปีที่แล้ว

      This. All their research will be patented, governments will be lobbied to increase the barrier of entrance into the VR market and smaller startups will be bought out until no new competitors have a chance.
      I haven't touched my Oculus Rift since a Facebook account became mandatory and judging by this video I don't think VRs future is bright.

    • @cnash5647
      @cnash5647 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      That is possible, but I doubt people in the future are just gonna sit around and do nothing about it. Microsoft has dominated the OS market for decades, but we also have Linux and MacOS, and people actively developing on it.

    • @williamrutherford553
      @williamrutherford553 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      It really depends where people's priorities are. It doesn't matter if Meta has a tight grip on VR technology if it's incredibly niche. They're really betting on "the metaverse" being everything, and even people within the company are worried they're putting all their eggs in the same basket.

    • @alwaysyouramanda
      @alwaysyouramanda ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Reminds me of General Motors destroying the electric car in the 90s. The bought up the completion, made their own- and then trashed all but a small number that sit in collections. 30 years later, we finally gave them coming back strong. The free market seems to really stifle innovation, at least.. when large companies can so easily absorb the smaller ones.

    • @owenb6499
      @owenb6499 ปีที่แล้ว

      I mean honestly once gen z and millenial generations are majority in office the big tech companies will be broken up pretty quickly. They are monopolies, even just youtube alone is a monopoly. The only reason they havent been broken is the people in office would rather ask mark zuck if he can help them print some files.

  • @LeeSpork
    @LeeSpork ปีที่แล้ว +62

    I like how they gave them funny names, now I feel like I crave a holocake

    • @glass1098
      @glass1098 ปีที่แล้ว

      th-cam.com/video/AJPMPXO4XFo/w-d-xo.html

  • @Henrik0x7F
    @Henrik0x7F ปีที่แล้ว +67

    I don't know. I like VR for games but the idea of using it to socialize has something very dystopian in my opinion

    • @ShadowGaro
      @ShadowGaro ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah. I can imagine in the future people being banned from the real world because it's too dangerous

    • @zwenkwiel816
      @zwenkwiel816 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      IKR like i've played VR chat and shit is weird AF XD and right now it's just the anime weirdo's and shit but imagine if the mainstream gets a hold of this shit :S

    • @Cagrst
      @Cagrst ปีที่แล้ว

      You know I like the idea of the telephone for business purposes, but the idea of people socializing with it just seems dystopian to me....
      -said by an idiot in 1930
      Pull your head out of your ass

    • @TheIndieGamesNL
      @TheIndieGamesNL ปีที่แล้ว +1

      How is it any different from a phone

    • @cola98765
      @cola98765 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Depends on implementation... I'm for VR socialising, but not under any large corpo rule... I love VRChat, but it it was a Meta product made with such a huge team I would fear for everything I do as they have to get money somewhere (the VRC team is like 15 people, compared to Horizon Worlds 10000 last time I checked)

  • @NamePointer
    @NamePointer ปีที่แล้ว +92

    I don't think optimization is the only reason Mark wants Eye tracking that much. Don't forget that Meta makes its money with advertising and data collection, and just imagine how valuable it would be for them to know exactly where you are looking at all times. They could create virtual billboards and analyze which types of ads you are most drawn to, unconsciously.

    • @Nate-bd8fg
      @Nate-bd8fg ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Geez that's actually genius, virtual billboards and all that. Don't give them ideas

    • @cyansuy3062
      @cyansuy3062 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Or, conspiracy time, they are stealing your retinal data for the future cyberpunk dystopian war.

    • @jonny-b4954
      @jonny-b4954 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      @@Nate-bd8fg You don't think they've thought of that? I mean, it's LITERALLY the entire point of the whole thing. Point blank, that's it. They don't care about anything else BUT advertising to you and taking your life away from you so you're within their ad blitz.

    • @zwenkwiel816
      @zwenkwiel816 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@jonny-b4954 "and taking your life away"
      wait wut?! how do you go from advertising to whatever the hell you mean with "taking your life away"
      are they gonna kill me?! XD

    • @jonny-b4954
      @jonny-b4954 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@zwenkwiel816 Hah, I mean, like taking your time from you ;) But you never know, all that sitting will technically take some years off. Hasten you visit to (likely) Hell. Then the images of that bitch from high school who's still hot and married a rich man who's never around to bother her; it will kill your motivation, the blue light of the screen; you lose your eyesight! Hear hear folks, I tell you, back pain awaits from the sitting position. And for only the low payment of $14.99 a month we can make it an ad-less experience too.

  • @Seadminist
    @Seadminist ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I really appreciate you putting subtitles, for those of us who don't speak English naturally, they help a lot.

  • @CocoaBeans660
    @CocoaBeans660 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    4:55 @2kliksphilip I love this channel do much. This and 3, and 1. You have literally single handed me got into CSGO, and game development. I got fusion 2.5 and followed your tutorials and used it for a year and a half. I have recently for the last couple of months have started coding in GD script, and it is something I want to focus on for the rest of my life. It is all thanks to you. Sounds really dumb, but I didn't realize until I saw this clip how much your channels have entertained and edjecucated me. Destruction Darius 2 better be fucking awesome 😎

  • @thepunisherxxx6804
    @thepunisherxxx6804 ปีที่แล้ว +61

    Phil, as a youtuber you just don't understand when you say "Oh this can replace zoom calls". As a remote software web dev and a VR owner I can say with confidence nobody will like or use that. There is nothing a zoom meet can't functionally achieve vs a real one. Screen sharing is actually easier in zoom vs a conference cast too. Also nobody cares about avatars in a business world. Nobody wants to be in a meeting and just wants to get in and out. Wearing VR also is uncomfortable and hurts eyes after time. It also makes drinking and snacking annoying, and this is coming from a gamer. I have colleagues who have used the quest and feel even worse about it. Its NOT mainstream and its NOT entering the business world anytime soon. Its a stupid novelty people who don't actually have real meetings think will be good for them.

    • @SpaceCat36
      @SpaceCat36 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      It definitely is a janky solution looking for a problem

    • @crushfruits2660
      @crushfruits2660 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      As much as I like VR, I definitely can't fault anything you have said here, VR isn't suitable application for business meetings at all. If anything I'd rather keep work out of my home VR system.

    • @CB66941
      @CB66941 ปีที่แล้ว

      On the bright side, we might have just advanced VR tech if metaverse goes downhill

  • @Archmeton
    @Archmeton ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Replace Meta with Valve and I would've been happy

  • @Kolop315
    @Kolop315 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    what an insanely comprehensive summary. The original video is obviously really great, but I think you've nailed the right balance of information to length here. Without being too wordy too.

  • @electricindigoball1244
    @electricindigoball1244 ปีที่แล้ว +103

    It is difficult for me to get excited about these advancements in VR because Meta is the one in charge. Between their walled garden approach to VR and their past unethical behaviour I don't see myself ever getting one of their headsets especially as they require you to login to your Facebook account for the device to work.
    I'm incredibly disappointed that Valve has almost completely abandoned VR hardware development and let Meta take over such a large part of the market even though Valve were so important in getting VR from the prototype stage to a real product that normal people could realistically buy and use.
    I wish a more ethical company would have bought Oculus instead and that the technology was more open and had less restrictions. While Meta may have the money to fund VR R&D their approach to it is hurting the medium as a whole.

    • @Leap623
      @Leap623 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I'm fully on board with the general sentiment that Meta is a pretty shitty company and it would be really great if almost anyone else was taking these same initiatives, but I do want to point out that at the very least they're now officially removing the facebook account requirement going forward. Sucks for everyone who already handed that info over, but better late than never I guess.

    • @tarakivu8861
      @tarakivu8861 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      @@Leap623 Yeah, no Facebook Account, now you are forced to have a Meta-Account.. as if thats not pretty much the same..

    • @Leap623
      @Leap623 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@tarakivu8861 I mean once again, I trust meta as far as I can throw their corporate headquarters, but having to make a normal meta account is a lot less of a privacy concern than linking a surveillance device to all the very personal info on my Facebook account. So I don't see how it's the same.

    • @Vitoreo
      @Vitoreo ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Valve have not abanded VR at all, look up Valve Deckard.

    • @zwenkwiel816
      @zwenkwiel816 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@tarakivu8861 kind of but there's some differences. like of course you'll be giving any data you create on the device to Meta but at least your games library won't be tied to your social media. so if you get banned for not being PC enough on facebook at least you won't lose access to your games library
      also not sure but I don't think you need to use your real name for your meta account (and send in photo ID for verifications and shit) like you have to with facebook.

  • @pinkbanana1276
    @pinkbanana1276 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    There goes the last bit of privacy in our lives.

  • @existentialselkath1264
    @existentialselkath1264 ปีที่แล้ว +77

    Im just waiting for valve to make a budget headset or something.
    I own an oculus cv1 and I'm sick of all the meta shenanigans by now. We need some other good options in the space

    • @NitinGopinathan
      @NitinGopinathan ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Please gaben release us from these meta shackles 😩

    • @namegoeshere197
      @namegoeshere197 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      if you really want. you can buy a enterprise quest 2 that don't require a meta account XD

    • @CrimsonEclipse5
      @CrimsonEclipse5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I'm just waiting for Valve to sell the Index in Australia...

    • @NitinGopinathan
      @NitinGopinathan ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@namegoeshere197 multi-player features will still require a Meta account, or you may just be locked out of multi-player altogether

    • @checker297
      @checker297 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      valve isnt going to make a budget headset, gabe isnt about making a hardware company, I think he is more about making VR cool things because he likes VR cool things.

  • @Erilis000
    @Erilis000 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great summary, thank you! I'll have to now go view some of the full video you linked in the description.

  • @kennytvn
    @kennytvn ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The visualization of eye focus was definitely my favorite part of the video

  • @nicks4727
    @nicks4727 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is one of my favorite channels

  • @HolyOllie
    @HolyOllie ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Hello philip! Thank you for making all videos about VR :)

  • @thetaxikab604
    @thetaxikab604 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I can't wait for all this tech that could be used for something cool is only used to make more dystopian advertising.

  • @ChazaChang
    @ChazaChang ปีที่แล้ว

    Kliksphillip you are my comfort character. Just 20 minutes ago, I was super anxious and popping on one of your videos made me relax. Thank you bro

  • @yungrich6188
    @yungrich6188 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    mark in vr looks even more terrifying than in real life

  • @tarscase7653
    @tarscase7653 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I bought the first gen HTC Vive and it's still impressive and gets the job done, in regards to tracking and gameplay. Now it's the case of waiting a few years to enjoy the sum of all these incremental changes with a new headset.

    • @williamrutherford553
      @williamrutherford553 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yup, most people don't have the latest phones or buy a new GPU every year. This kind of stuff will slowly trickle down, generations down the line it'll be more accessible.

    • @cola98765
      @cola98765 ปีที่แล้ว

      the only thing that annoys me with my used Vive I got recently is that lighthouses use quite loud gyros, making me disconnect the thing every time. Other than that, A great headset free from Facebook rule.

  • @KaaptnIglo
    @KaaptnIglo ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for covering these stuff. Fascinating topic.

  • @theslamdancekid
    @theslamdancekid ปีที่แล้ว +1

    tfw when you pause to read the text and it's Twilight.
    Never change, Philip.

  • @NoNameAtAll2
    @NoNameAtAll2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    if only it didn't track you with meta account
    can we talk about competition instead?

    • @cola98765
      @cola98765 ปีที่แล้ว

      I would love to see if Valve is working on something cool or just incremental change.

  • @LukieLuke5
    @LukieLuke5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I can't wait for them to shine blinding light directly into my eyes that I cannot escape. (For realism, of course.)

    • @Nate-bd8fg
      @Nate-bd8fg ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yeah not exactly a fan of 10,000 nits right in my eyes

  • @Murkymaid
    @Murkymaid ปีที่แล้ว +4

    it kinda sucks that the main company pushing vr is such a money hungry anti-privacy conglomerate but the tech is extremely impressive and cool, to me at least. i just hope more companies or even open source projects try and dethrone meta's consumer vr dominance cause then not only will every company be forced to innovate faster to break in which will result in better hardware for people, but it will also hopefully make people less reliant on playing vr games on a device that tracks your home by a company that sells your data.

  • @jello4076
    @jello4076 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Greatly appreciate you covering this topic! VR technology development is still in a bit of a bottleneck, but bringing awareness to how certain issues are being overcome gives me hope for the future of VR :)

  • @keilerbie7469
    @keilerbie7469 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    This stuff sure looks cool but having Facebook at the head of it feels really dystopian

  • @MrStarnger1
    @MrStarnger1 ปีที่แล้ว +109

    although morbid, im glad meta is in the VR industry making these advances, nobody likes this shady company but we need it to pave the path to the future of vr. hopefully we discard them when others join the vr market and we have better options to choose from

    • @izperehoda
      @izperehoda ปีที่แล้ว +25

      Morb?!??

    • @leetagent
      @leetagent ปีที่แล้ว +12

      MORBid?

    • @HamzahShoaib
      @HamzahShoaib ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Have you seen the hit movie morbuis?

    • @Ethiixx
      @Ethiixx ปีที่แล้ว

      Good point.

    • @madawcofarreat2348
      @madawcofarreat2348 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Do we really need to cheer on a shady corporation and push further into dystopia, all because you wanna play VR games?

  • @rosinros
    @rosinros ปีที่แล้ว +4

    no offense to your content but holy crap i cannot get over how fall-asleep-to-able your videos are. the mix of soft voice, music, and moderately long videos is so amazingly perfect to just doze off to. great stuff, man. loving your videos.

  • @arandompotat0
    @arandompotat0 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome summary

  • @materoid
    @materoid ปีที่แล้ว +1

    cool video. i have only tried vr headsets only once in my life many years ago and it was pretty nice experience! i can only imagine how realistic vr is now or in 10 years.

  • @declanlambert1089
    @declanlambert1089 ปีที่แล้ว

    haha i love following latest vr tech news, and latest AI news, so your channel has been pretty perfect for me lately 😂

  • @UmamiPapi
    @UmamiPapi ปีที่แล้ว +7

    FaceBook is one of the very few companies so broadly hated that they had to entirely rebrand to "Meta". Same with Comcast as an ISP.

    • @unfa00
      @unfa00 ปีที่แล้ว

      You think they're counting on "Meta" not being associated with Facebook? I think it's more about communicating the company broadening it's domain. The news about Facebook corporation renaming was a really loud thing, though maybe I'm in a tech bubble and average users don't hear about that.

  • @patrlim
    @patrlim ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Imagine playing pavlov with those future head seadsets and getting flashbanged

    • @mushroomcrepes4780
      @mushroomcrepes4780 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      just need 180db speakers to deafen the player too

    • @cola98765
      @cola98765 ปีที่แล้ว

      My friend who literally goes deaf for 3 days after flashbangs in some games because of his tinnitus: "I don't think I want that"

  • @Rockett.
    @Rockett. ปีที่แล้ว +8

    HDR is a massive upgrade over SDR. You see so many more colours that when going back to SDR it looks kinda flat and dull in comparison. I've only experienced peak HDR 1000 even that still is incredibly good. At around 110 PPI mark and 120fps mark HDR 1000 is a much better upgrade over increasing PPI and framerate further (talking from a content consumption perspective)

    • @BonJoviBeatlesLedZep
      @BonJoviBeatlesLedZep ปีที่แล้ว

      I think when PSVR2 drops, people are gonna be blown away for that very reason combined with the true foveated rendering

  • @woosix7735
    @woosix7735 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Man I wish that Facebook doesn’t just gain a monopoly over vr.

    • @woosix7735
      @woosix7735 ปีที่แล้ว

      looking really hopeless right now though

  • @ornf_
    @ornf_ ปีที่แล้ว

    Very interesting, thanks for this video!

  • @suddsyrabbit3934
    @suddsyrabbit3934 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love your videos

  • @tf_lecter
    @tf_lecter ปีที่แล้ว +36

    The rename from facebook to meta shows zucc never was good at naming schemes. Some things never change. The same is present in the naming of their prototypes. lmao

    • @owenb6499
      @owenb6499 ปีที่แล้ว

      Literally named it after a dystopian novel didn’t he?

  • @username65585
    @username65585 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The point of eye tracking is to make sure you are looking at ads.

    • @cola98765
      @cola98765 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      that's the sad thing... Engineer will have the best intentions of adding eye tracking so the quality drop or in game interactions are not based where centre of your screen is, but where you actually look...
      ...And then they are told by sales department that they made great job in making another datapoint if people look at an ad.

  • @KorboQ
    @KorboQ ปีที่แล้ว

    I love the resolution twiddling man.

  • @GoNinty
    @GoNinty ปีที่แล้ว

    VR with eye tracking is already here - a friend at university used a FOVE VR headset to develop a proof of concept where a spider in the room reacts differently depending on whether you have line of sight to it. I wouldn't be surprised if this starts to rear it's head (not only for technical reasons like you mentioned here) but also integrated into gameplay in some way. It seems like it shouldn't be too difficult to integrate one inside of a mainstream mass market headset already. Much of the tracking problems traditional desktop eye trackers might encounter are a result of conditions that are more controllable when you put one inside a headset - IR light reflection on glasses, the distance of the tracker from the user or the room lighting conditions.
    Also, standard desktop eye trackers require extensive calibration for accurate tracking and they in no way provide reliable user-independent tracking without recalibration. It'll be interesting to see if placing the trackers so close to one's eyes inside of a VR headset allows for calibration to be eliminated entirely. User independence isn't really an issue for VR experiences but it'll hopefully prompt more research into passive calibration techniques that can maybe be ported over to the traditional eye tracker space.

  • @Chreeeis
    @Chreeeis ปีที่แล้ว

    I gotta respect someone genuinely looking into what meta is doing rather than mindlessly making fun of them (though that can still be pretty fun).

  • @bodaciouschad
    @bodaciouschad ปีที่แล้ว +2

    "Part of the payment model for buying a meta vr headset will be agreeing to allow ads to be rendered in the edges of your field of vision during gameplay." /S

  • @MrStarnger1
    @MrStarnger1 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Imagine a headset with all 4 of those attributes together. I wonder when we will have that. If meta keeps pouring money in i think it would only be a few years before we can see a headset like that

    • @thomaspump168
      @thomaspump168 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      a few years before you can see it, a few decades before you can afford one

    • @Nate-bd8fg
      @Nate-bd8fg ปีที่แล้ว +1

      He literally talked about that on the video, it's gonna be many generations

    • @zwenkwiel816
      @zwenkwiel816 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@thomaspump168 not to mention getting a PC capable to drive that resolution. kind of weird how Meta is focusing so heavy on higher resolutions and shit when they seemingly have all but abandoned PCVR...

    • @ILFforever
      @ILFforever ปีที่แล้ว

      @@zwenkwiel816 I mean all their headsets support PCVR? The quest 2 is small and light weight but if you want better graphics you use pcvr.

    • @owenb6499
      @owenb6499 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@zwenkwiel816 I mean by the time it comes out computers should be faster. Just use a pc or phone from 2010, or even 2000.

  • @andi8343
    @andi8343 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video

  • @williamrutherford553
    @williamrutherford553 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Interesting to see how often they talk about eye tracking, because it's one of the things I find the most eerie. Predicting your eye movements before they happen doesn't seem like just a problem to help with rendering, Facebook/Meta dealing so much with advertising makes that very important. I can only hope this technology becomes more widespread, and these breakthroughs eventually trickle down to companies whose sole profit motive is collecting personal data. It's why they have the "two tiers" for consumers and businesses, because currently it costs $400USD more if you want a Quest which DOESN'T tie you to a Meta account.
    I love this video because it is just the tech, which IS mindblowing. Technology is a tool, there is nothing wrong with any of this development, just how it's going to be used. If a company like Valve or HTC implements even a fraction of this technology, I'll be very happy. I would be way more excited to fund this kind of research when it didn't have the business practices of Meta looming over it.

  • @friendofp.24
    @friendofp.24 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Please don't give Facebook the satisfaction of calling them Meta.

    • @resserection1
      @resserection1 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's a bit sad seeing him give them what they want

  • @MagikGimp
    @MagikGimp ปีที่แล้ว +1

    All I see is that this will be what future generations look back on to laugh at.

  • @EER0000
    @EER0000 ปีที่แล้ว

    So I have been very sceptical of VR ever since trying the 3D glasses that came with my TNT2 card at the time, the oculus rift convinced me that it was a fad. Last weekend though Ii was visiting friends who have a recent meta VR set, and I was pleasantly surprised that the quality was quite good, and I was not tethered by a bulk of cables to a PC… perhaps I will invest in a headset when the next generation comes out. Thanks for the sneak peek Philip!

  • @Camska427
    @Camska427 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    great video!

    • @fortniterobloxpro6774
      @fortniterobloxpro6774 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      you did not watch the video that fast

    • @nodrognameerf
      @nodrognameerf ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@fortniterobloxpro6774 12x speed

    • @Camska427
      @Camska427 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@fortniterobloxpro6774 speed buff from the recent update, duh

    • @musicplayah
      @musicplayah ปีที่แล้ว +1

      great comment!

  • @metasamsara
    @metasamsara ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i laughed too hard at the knob turning zoom

  • @bb4evr
    @bb4evr ปีที่แล้ว

    Almost thought you forgot to put a lens flare in the thumbnail 😅 this was surely a close call

  • @mattstephen7494
    @mattstephen7494 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you to all the millions of Facebook users who fund this research. Your sacrifice was not in vain.

  • @SuiYo
    @SuiYo ปีที่แล้ว +21

    What a wonderful video - the future is bright for VR!

  • @EliteKiller07
    @EliteKiller07 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    5:00 me trying to see all the little neat details Valve put on the gravity gloves in HL:A

  • @blank141
    @blank141 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ready Player One and SAO are getting a lot closer now

  • @SFCommanderSFM
    @SFCommanderSFM ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This looks very impressive! I wonder if the valve deckard will use a similar tech

    •  ปีที่แล้ว

      It is. From what i heard that a few years ago, Facebook even stolen the VR lens ideal from Valve.

  • @TriHard7
    @TriHard7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks philip

  • @CallumOfGreenside
    @CallumOfGreenside ปีที่แล้ว +5

    It’s just a shame that there isn’t a different company than Facebook that’s leading the VR charge

    • @afterhours1337
      @afterhours1337 ปีที่แล้ว

      Isn’t Valve also doing more VR stuff?

  • @David-ww2sg
    @David-ww2sg ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Great video Phil, although the whole eye-tracking thing is making me a bit concerned.

  • @Povilaz
    @Povilaz ปีที่แล้ว

    It's a very interesting concept. The future is scary though.

  • @xymaryai8283
    @xymaryai8283 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i wonder if they're addressing variable IPD as well as variable focus, because our eyes do the former, looking closer together when we are looking at something close, and more parallel and to "maximum ipd"

  • @hemangchauhan2864
    @hemangchauhan2864 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    4:53
    this needs to be memed

  • @f1r3hunt3rz5
    @f1r3hunt3rz5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Meta cannot keep on ignoring VRChat, there's so much in it that Metaverse doesn't have yet.
    Though I honestly wish Meta would just continue treating VRChat as if it doesn't even exist.

  • @MrStarnger1
    @MrStarnger1 ปีที่แล้ว

    They can add predictive algorithms to the eyetracking to make the headsets even more efficient and be less bulky

    • @Nate-bd8fg
      @Nate-bd8fg ปีที่แล้ว

      He literally said that in the video, they do that

  • @daddysempaichan
    @daddysempaichan ปีที่แล้ว +41

    Even if Mark the lizardman's vision of Meta doesn't pan out, there'll still be innovations made in pursuit of that vision, innovations that the people of the future could iterate on and create new products. Remember, the Space Race was a military endeavor to put weapons in, well, Space, and look at how that panned out. And the Rocket to Space wasn't built in a day, it was built upon failure after failure and having to build new technology to solve problems.
    I still don't like Meta, however. Don't like all this big corpo spying stuff, but credit where credits due, at least they're using their money to push technology forward, even if it's in pursuit of a modern dystopia. Better than fatasses sitting on money for the sake of it.

    • @Kpba32
      @Kpba32 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Meta will most definitely be beaten out by VRChat in the long term.

    • @MrMoon-hy6pn
      @MrMoon-hy6pn ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Kpba32 You mean horizon worlds will be beaten out by VRChat? Totally, but I really hope VRChat ups their moderation before it becomes too popular. Most public worlds sound eerily similar to a kindergarten.

    • @Kpba32
      @Kpba32 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@MrMoon-hy6pn most public worlds sound like 4chan, and that's simply due to the nature of internet anonymity. Similar things in the real world can happen, but usually with people with nothing to lose.

    • @xBINARYGODx
      @xBINARYGODx ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I see this comment a lot - that somehow its ok to push tech even if your the devil. I will take not-the-devil if it means some tech takes longrer (which is really the ONLY drawback to not having the devil around, actually).

  • @chronos7554
    @chronos7554 ปีที่แล้ว

    i hope one day we get a headset with built in lenses for people with myopia or other eye problems like that

  • @runforitman
    @runforitman ปีที่แล้ว

    I am v excited

  • @artifica0
    @artifica0 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I started laughing up
    My food when you did de-enhance spinner bit and the focusing on “i never asked for this” Adam Jenson pop figure thing! Thanks for the mess lol

  • @BboyCorrosive
    @BboyCorrosive ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Get in the pod, eat the bugs, live in the metaverse 😏

    • @DemsW
      @DemsW ปีที่แล้ว +1

      i'd love for bugs to be more available to eat

    • @BboyCorrosive
      @BboyCorrosive ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@DemsW *smiles Klaus Schwably*

  • @Davion197
    @Davion197 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    VR will forever be dead for me until we get some sort of magical auto-corrected lens filters that don't cost an arm and a leg. I may have vision so bad I'm almost legally blind, but dammit I wanna try VR too.

    • @ShadowGaro
      @ShadowGaro ปีที่แล้ว

      As a near-sighted person I mock you and your ilk 😂

  • @Ogaitnas900
    @Ogaitnas900 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    let's let them gather data on every small detail, feature and movement of millions of faces, it won't backfire

  • @jesser1070
    @jesser1070 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for summarizing an hour long video 👍

  • @jokroast6912
    @jokroast6912 ปีที่แล้ว

    If Meta moves towards Open Source and stays there I'd might buy.

  • @albarnie1168
    @albarnie1168 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Incredible tech but i do not believe for one second that meta will not take its increasing access to our eyeballs and use it to become more invasive than ever.

  • @TrebleSketch
    @TrebleSketch ปีที่แล้ว +1

    7:00 problem with the 20,000nits number they gave, I wonder if this is before or after the reduction due to display duty cycle and lens system. Both of which can reduce it by 80-90% each time

    • @cola98765
      @cola98765 ปีที่แล้ว

      yeah, while I want to believe this tech is possible, it's a bit sus, and if all presentations were as baren as showed here (not for example using headset as flashlight in lit room) I question validity of that claim.

  • @MattyFez
    @MattyFez ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Oh boy I can't wait to live in Baudrillardian hyperreality

  • @89elmonster
    @89elmonster ปีที่แล้ว

    Torture idea: Surgically attach a super high quality (7th-8th gen) VR headset to a person and only show them horrible things

  • @runforitman
    @runforitman ปีที่แล้ว

    I won't be happy until vr makes me genuinely fear for my life

  • @DashMatin
    @DashMatin ปีที่แล้ว +1

    what are the songs names you use in your videos philip?

  • @gamed01
    @gamed01 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice

  • @zy0_
    @zy0_ ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I'm never gonna buy a meta product but I really like how they're pumping money into the VR scene, the bigger it gets the better for me and for other companies that, for my needs, make better. (mainly valve lul)

    • @zwenkwiel816
      @zwenkwiel816 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@AmelpsXett not entirely, lot of the quest 2 games would have never existed if it wasn't for Meta. as much as you can hate on Meta for a long list of valid reasons they do directly support a lot of VR game development. so in a lot of ways they are like the Console of VR (i mean microsoft and sony do exactly the same, give devs a big bag of money to make a game exclusive to their system)
      also they don't lock down PCVR for their headsets at all, in fact they support it. I mean I don't see Sony MS or Nintendo letting you play Steam games on their systems.
      still sucks I can't play RE4VR on my Rift S though, I mean I even bought one of their damn headsets!!!!

    • @zwenkwiel816
      @zwenkwiel816 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@AmelpsXett wtf?! no dude that's just a ridiculous comparison that makes no sense what-so-ever.
      do you not understand the basics of computers or something?! the quest 2 is a computer. it has it's own CPU (that stands for Central Processing Unit)
      it's not a fucking keyboard or controller it's a computer that can run software. now Meta who has made this computer has paid other companies to write (or license) software for that computer. it's not exactly rocket surgery and it's no different from what Nintendo Sony and MS have been doing for decades now....

    • @zwenkwiel816
      @zwenkwiel816 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@AmelpsXett you are dvmb dude, how in the fuck is the quest 2 any different from a switch!? both have a mobile processor, battery, screen and some buttons and sticks to control the damn thing.
      it's a fucking computer (standalone system) whether your dvmb ass likes it or not

  • @liamcollinson5695
    @liamcollinson5695 ปีที่แล้ว

    Honestly I think without my quest 2 I would of gone insane during lockdown I still socialised and drank in vr chat

  • @tralphstreet
    @tralphstreet ปีที่แล้ว

    So much technology, just to escape reality. Although, being honest, the ability to simulate reality would be extremely useful.

  • @sirreoser5668
    @sirreoser5668 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I'm still rooting for Gabe Newell. When you compare the two you don't got to ask which one is investing more into virtual anime women

    • @nicoliedolpot7213
      @nicoliedolpot7213 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      a quick glance at the steam front page already tells you.

    • @cola98765
      @cola98765 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      VRChat: "anime people"
      Horizon Worlds: "humans only"
      VRC: "furries"
      HW: "avatars are floating torsos"
      VRC: "If you know a bit of unity you can add your own avatar"
      HW: "We plan to add NFT like custom skins."

  • @hi_its_jerry
    @hi_its_jerry ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm pretty sure meta won't have monopoly over that tech for too long, as they're likely going to face competition from the likes of valve, apple and whatnot. yes, meta is often sketchy and zucc's vision sounds dystopian, but i wanna be optimistic and believe that us consumers will have other VR alternatives which build upon what meta is pioneering right now

  • @rdablock
    @rdablock ปีที่แล้ว +4

    cant wait for the NSA to get my eye-movement profile

  • @artifica0
    @artifica0 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Im not sure i want 20,000 nit of brightness 1000 ish seems enought i know its a has a non linear fall of its not 20 times bright but still can it be good for your eyes?

    • @zwenkwiel816
      @zwenkwiel816 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      also I wonder if we even need all that brightness. a VR headset is already like a totally darkened room. any light hitting your eyes comes from the screen so won't your eyes just adapt to the brightness? seems like contrast would be more important (like black actually being black and shit)

  • @MrHeytar
    @MrHeytar ปีที่แล้ว +6

    A “this is not a sponsored video” message would be appreciated, unless it is…

    • @MrHeytar
      @MrHeytar ปีที่แล้ว +3

      And please don’t act naive, like you wouldn’t know what reputation meta has at the moment

    • @cola98765
      @cola98765 ปีที่แล้ว

      To be fair, the tech itself is cool... the way it's used and sold at a loss is not so much.

    • @dloboi5199
      @dloboi5199 ปีที่แล้ว

      Anything is not sponsored unless it is stated so