@@JeffreytheLibrarian I only wish my grandfather was still alive to share this information with. The stories of our shaping brought to life is a great wonder of today.
I saw this right as I was going to bed. I'm debating on whether to watch now or in the morning with breakfast. Dammit, Jeffrey, you're making me stay up later than usual.
Thank you for the book request. I appreciate it. It would be interesting to compare the readership of 'Common Sense' with the Loyalist response 'Plain Truth.'
One of my favorite stories is where an Englishman is talking to an American... "So you revolted over taxation without representation, how is it going with representation?"
That's pretty funny. The license plates in Washington, DC say "Taxation without representation" because DC citizens don't have representation in Congress, which is probably the most ironical thing ever.
@@mikenicholas7132 Just take a look to see what your liberal party is doing to NY and CA, communism at it's finest. First they let out half the prison population then they installed laws thru propaganda that makes felonies into misdemeanors, what has it caused? Massive homelessness and massive thefts that are causing business and people to leave in hords. This is what ur liberals want. Open ur eyes to facts. not the emotional garbage they feed u. If this is what u want then keep voting blue.
Mary stop listening to the emotion propaganda lies the left is feeding u, look at what is going on in Liberal run states (NY, CA) and ask urself if this is what u want for the nation.
Another thing Mary, which party wants to take away ur rights? Your first and second amendment rights that true patriots hold dear? Propaganda by the lib/commies works well as they chip away at your rights, right under ur nose.
3:30mins He was terribly terribly wrong. The English monarchy in the middle ages was Not a tyranny. The King governed by consent, and that is before the establishment of Parliament and the Commons in the early c.14th. And then he sites the aristocracy... but prey, what aristocracy, for example in the reign of Henry VII 1485-1507... Just how many members of the House of Lords were there??! Or at any time...
The Loyalists made these arguments, and there was a rebuttal to "Common Sense" called "Plain Truth," also published in Philadelphia. The US Constitution, in many ways, was a written version of the English Constitution, complete with a bi-cameral Congress (Parliament), the major difference in the USA being that the executive has a term limit and is selected by the people.
@@JeffreytheLibrarian As I understand things in 1700, the King of England had less power than the President of USA has ever had. And there were Prime Ministers of England which are thought to begin with Walpole in the first half of the 1700s who were elected and served for a limited period although there was and still is some flexibility in the system. The main difference with America is money buying candidates and votes in Congress. There are limits to how much any candidate can legally spend in UK General elections (i think it is about £50,000 per MP). And there is no legal money transactions allowed by lobbyists and as a result it is a relatively minor area of interest.
Good point on adding context re the English monarchy. However, to add context to your point. The colonies did not have representation in the British government to be a part of King George’s “consenting” body. Perhaps if the Patriots had proper representation they would not have revolted. Perhaps with representation or influence in the monarchy the colonies would not have felt it was “tyranny”. I submit, Taxation without representation is tyrannical and a major driver in TP’s take in Common Sense and the sentiment of the time.
I like to read primary documents to hear their words. We always mention "Common Sense," but we often never hear what Paine actually said. I have no intention of causing division. I'm just curious and probably eccentric. In fact, I have read King George's "Proclamation of 1763" in a separate video, which presents George in a positive light. I also plan on doing a video on 'Plain Truth,' which was a Loyalist response to 'Common Sense.'
People really listened to this essay. The first USA government had no executive branch. And it soon failed. I don’t like violence and I think I would not wanted the independence. But after your video on how persecuted loyalists were, it was bad for them too. There are no winners in violence.
This is so timely. When one of the presidential candidates wants to set himself up as a king. And the Supreme Court has given the greenlight for him to do so.
No, he just perpetuated a lie, was told so in over 60 court decisions and today persists. There are none so blind who will not see. Biden with all his faults followed Washington's wisdom and removed himself. God help us!
The TDS is strong on this channel. Great presentation. It would be refreshing if the looney tunes out there could appreciate any perspective, idea or event in history without confabulating it to current events.
@GenerationXFiles1969 I'm not sure what a soy latte is or what it has to do with the OP being delusional, can you explain what you think you mean for those of us not in your cult?
Yes, Republics also fight wars. However, there is a trend that Republics don't wage war against other republics, which is at least a step in the right direction.
The English Parliament rarely went to war (unless you count the lesser engagements in the Empire/Commonwealth). They were more interested in their interests.
Excellent rendition of an important document.
Thank you!
I appreciate all the hard work you put into making these videos! I’m always excited for a new one!
Thank you! They are a labor of love.
@@JeffreytheLibrarian I only wish my grandfather was still alive to share this information with. The stories of our shaping brought to life is a great wonder of today.
Nice, Jeff with a hitter tonight! Thanks for your videos!
Thank you, friend!
I saw this right as I was going to bed. I'm debating on whether to watch now or in the morning with breakfast. Dammit, Jeffrey, you're making me stay up later than usual.
I think that I need to listen twice. But then I have adhd and need to study anything important many times.
This was exceptional! Wonderful selection of images as well as editing. Do more!
Thank you!
Happy Pioneer Day!
That was a neat find! Happy Pioneer Day!
Thanks 👍
You're welcome! Thanks for watching!
Thank you for this really good video. I read it also. Thanks for bringing this to our attention.
Thank you for watching!
It’s only 29 pages and a downloadable pdf. I want to read it in addition to hearing it. Both ways are good. 😊
T Paine's logic appeals even to modern loyal british royalists!
Beautifully timely...
Thomas Paine never goes out of style :)
You may want to look into the book The Republic in Print by Trish Loghran. It destroys the myth that Common Sense sold as much as it did.
Thank you for the book request. I appreciate it. It would be interesting to compare the readership of 'Common Sense' with the Loyalist response 'Plain Truth.'
@@JeffreytheLibrarian How much of America is built on PR. I would also be interested.
One of my favorite stories is where an Englishman is talking to an American...
"So you revolted over taxation without representation, how is it going with representation?"
That's pretty funny. The license plates in Washington, DC say "Taxation without representation" because DC citizens don't have representation in Congress, which is probably the most ironical thing ever.
@@JeffreytheLibrarian 🤣🤣
Lest we forget! Such a critical reminder at this election time. We are so close to having a dictator
There has never been a president so monarchable as dear Trump, so sad so many of us are so blind, or just won't see.@GenerationXFiles1969
@@mikenicholas7132 Just take a look to see what your liberal party is doing to NY and CA, communism at it's finest. First they let out half the prison population then they installed laws thru propaganda that makes felonies into misdemeanors, what has it caused? Massive homelessness and massive thefts that are causing business and people to leave in hords. This is what ur liberals want. Open ur eyes to facts. not the emotional garbage they feed u. If this is what u want then keep voting blue.
Mary stop listening to the emotion propaganda lies the left is feeding u, look at what is going on in Liberal run states (NY, CA) and ask urself if this is what u want for the nation.
Another thing Mary, which party wants to take away ur rights? Your first and second amendment rights that true patriots hold dear? Propaganda by the lib/commies works well as they chip away at your rights, right under ur nose.
3:30mins He was terribly terribly wrong. The English monarchy in the middle ages was Not a tyranny. The King governed by consent, and that is before the establishment of Parliament and the Commons in the early c.14th. And then he sites the aristocracy... but prey, what aristocracy, for example in the reign of Henry VII 1485-1507... Just how many members of the House of Lords were there??! Or at any time...
The Loyalists made these arguments, and there was a rebuttal to "Common Sense" called "Plain Truth," also published in Philadelphia. The US Constitution, in many ways, was a written version of the English Constitution, complete with a bi-cameral Congress (Parliament), the major difference in the USA being that the executive has a term limit and is selected by the people.
@@JeffreytheLibrarian As I understand things in 1700, the King of England had less power than the President of USA has ever had. And there were Prime Ministers of England which are thought to begin with Walpole in the first half of the 1700s who were elected and served for a limited period although there was and still is some flexibility in the system. The main difference with America is money buying candidates and votes in Congress. There are limits to how much any candidate can legally spend in UK General elections (i think it is about £50,000 per MP). And there is no legal money transactions allowed by lobbyists and as a result it is a relatively minor area of interest.
“The King governed by consent.”
That’s some sentence.
@@Paine137 Yes, it is. A woman took the King to court in the early 1200s... and won... for example.
Good point on adding context re the English monarchy. However, to add context to your point. The colonies did not have representation in the British government to be a part of King George’s “consenting” body. Perhaps if the Patriots had proper representation they would not have revolted. Perhaps with representation or influence in the monarchy the colonies would not have felt it was “tyranny”. I submit, Taxation without representation is tyrannical and a major driver in TP’s take in Common Sense and the sentiment of the time.
Did you get the division you were hoping for?
Do Beria next.
I like to read primary documents to hear their words. We always mention "Common Sense," but we often never hear what Paine actually said. I have no intention of causing division. I'm just curious and probably eccentric. In fact, I have read King George's "Proclamation of 1763" in a separate video, which presents George in a positive light. I also plan on doing a video on 'Plain Truth,' which was a Loyalist response to 'Common Sense.'
People really listened to this essay. The first USA government had no executive branch. And it soon failed.
I don’t like violence and I think I would not wanted the independence.
But after your video on how persecuted loyalists were, it was bad for them too.
There are no winners in violence.
Yes, it would have been very complicated to be alive then. Neighbor against neighbor.
This is so timely. When one of the presidential candidates wants to set himself up as a king. And the Supreme Court has given the greenlight for him to do so.
What is wrong with you? Gee, he was President some 4 years ago and didn't make himself a king.
No, he just perpetuated a lie, was told so in over 60 court decisions and today persists. There are none so blind who will not see. Biden with all his faults followed Washington's wisdom and removed himself. God help us!
Where has he every stated he wants to be king 😂
@@Mattyheights Not yet, but he has said he will be a dictator.
That's in reference to the executive orders every president takes on their first day in office @@charlesmartin1121
The TDS is strong on this channel. Great presentation. It would be refreshing if the looney tunes out there could appreciate any perspective, idea or event in history without confabulating it to current events.
Wake up bro, you're talking in your sleep
@GenerationXFiles1969 I'm not sure what a soy latte is or what it has to do with the OP being delusional, can you explain what you think you mean for those of us not in your cult?
Don't need a Monarchy to have wars and it seems Republics can manage to create there own form of Royalty . Thomas Paine was just slightly delusional.
FDR anyone? You spelled Democrats wrong.
Yes, Republics also fight wars. However, there is a trend that Republics don't wage war against other republics, which is at least a step in the right direction.
The English Parliament rarely went to war (unless you count the lesser engagements in the Empire/Commonwealth). They were more interested in their interests.