He advocated for women's rights, the abolition of slavery, freedom of religion, was opposed to violence/anything resembling cruelty, believed that people should have freedom from monarchy. He was also an inventor, and a scientist, in that way - in addition to being a writer. *Truly an amazing human being.*
@Oni Tora He might be talking about basic income, but that's not communist lol en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basic_income_in_the_United_States#Older_history_(from_Paine_and_Spence_to_1900)
If hitch says they're extraordinary and great thinker then I believe him. There's something I've known for a long time but it's just really struck me in the past couple days that some of the greatest most clear thinkers especially in politics and philosophy are Riders. I heard Douglas Murray and Coleman Hughes speaking of this, both who are excellent Riders, and Douglas says clear riding is indication of clear thinking. Also Jordan Peterson says that universities and schools tell you to write but they never tell you why to write letter explain why and how it improves your ability to think. Because one there is no difference between thinking and writing they are the same thing but more importantly the riding forces you to put your thoughts in a digestible format and allows you to distill them down into the most beautiful sort of word equations if you will. As in equals MC square is short and concise and tells you tons of information likewise a statement that a excellent Rider makes is often short sweet to the point and Strikes you extremely hard because it's distilled Intuit Crystal form. Great writting is the crack of great thinking
America's first socialist. Only 4 people went to his funeral, a mother and young son who lived on the land and two free free slaves, his friends. He was a champion for ending slavery and because of this and other reasons he died alone, forgotten and lost without tribute.
@@taylorfloyd4785 He wasn't a literal socialist since of course socialism was just a basic idea by central European monks at this point, but some of his ideas can be seen as sort of a proto-socialism and I think even Marx has quoted him at times. He also started his political career as a trade unionist, which I find the most heartwarming. If you know anything about trade unions in the States, you'd know what the Socialists gave us in the 1920s and 30s.
Taehyung’s Kookie - Well, you could start your own podcast, your own channel, produce the biography of Thomas Paine, and then you could make it as long as you want it to be.
Thanks. What were the "certain indiscretions" that caused him to resign from the position of secretary of the Congressional Commitee on Foreign Affairs?
There's actually genuine confusion in the records from the time, owing to a glitch in the calender! en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Paine#cite_note-Conway_group=Note-2
The split between him and Washington wasn't fleshed out enough.... I believe it was a mutual dislike so it wasn't just some far out belief of his that Robespierre and George wanted him dead which is how this made it sound
I think I have heard something like "It's questionable that Paine's plea to Washington for help at this time was actually recieved by Washington." And "Gov Morris (whome there was a runing fued with Paine about war profitering (?) with Paine...how fitting, if so.) meddled in the correspondence. But, I agree there may have been a growing mutual dislike (although, I think Paine may have found out later that it wasn't just Washington that fell silent) I think Paine was adament that slavery be abolished, where as Washington was a...Landed Gentleman (?) that forstalled that until his death.
@@sitarama2410 Jesus Christ's " miracles" and attributes are similar to characteristics of the sun. Light of the world, walks on water, dying for 3 days.
It seems that pain’s last work regarding reason undermines many of the points that he made in common sense. I think the problem isn’t faith so much as it is corruption in the church. There is a lot of corruption in the church, but faith is very real. It seems to me that a lot of people will turn their back on God because of what man has done to religion.
Faith is only real to the person that carries it. If everyone kept their faith to themselves, there would be no issues … but we all know that’s just not reality. This faith has been the imagined basis of much bloodshed and many of the world’s root problems.
I totally agree. As a young adult blamed the Christian religion for many of histories atrocities. As i got older I realized it's not Christianity or the Bible that's responsible for the misdeeds of men. People will always try to justify their immoral behavior by interpreting Christianity in a way that excuses or allows them to act however they want but that doesn't mean religion is inherently bad. There's nothing in the Christian religion that excuses immorality especially when it comes to hurting other people. Men will surely try to ruin anything that is good.
@@mariguana7918 He literally advocated overthrowing the government because they were barely even taxing them. Thomas Paine would be rolling over in his grave if he could see how much tax the citizens of the U.S. pay to a government that doesn't give a shit about them. Our evil government takes our money and spends it on warheads to drop on kids in other countries. He was anti taxation and anti big government which is the complete opposite of the modern leftist.
@@mariguana7918 He was essentially the boogaloo boy of the 17th century. He advocated killing people who governed over them with an iron fist and those who taxed them. He was against taxation without representation which is the complete opposite of a modern leftist who wants people to pay so a bunch of lazy millenials can sit around watching netflix
@@PunchingCacti I consider myself a leftist (kind of) and I agree with him and most of what you said too. The way I see it, the government is taxing regular people (I.e. people who work for a living ) out the ass, but letting rich oligarchs avoid paying taxes through financial trickery. And like you said, a huge chunk of that money is used on weapons to satisfy the military industrial complex. Having an issue with that is the difference between a leftist and some liberal SJW.
Agreed, You may know that Paine said something like "I believe in one god and hope to live in an after life." Because he would not pay fealty to the priests of his day, like Jesus he was crucified, in a character assasination way. (along with actually being "beaten" when he came back to the states later in life..."States" being a part of the name he coined "These United States" You may also know he said something like: " The world is my country and to do good is my religion." A true patriout. Though, I wouldn't be surprised if his character was a little hard to take. That often seems to go with the territory. But hey, I'm a jealous man ; )
He advocated for women's rights, the abolition of slavery, freedom of religion, was opposed to violence/anything resembling cruelty, believed that people should have freedom from monarchy.
He was also an inventor, and a scientist, in that way - in addition to being a writer.
*Truly an amazing human being.*
Communist!
@Oni Tora He might be talking about basic income, but that's not communist lol
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basic_income_in_the_United_States#Older_history_(from_Paine_and_Spence_to_1900)
@@mariguana7918 If Thomas Paine was a communist, then communist is no slanderous term.
@@kaylabingus I know. I was kidding
@@kimochi5009 I was teasing. Yes Thomas Paine was awesome. Best American revolutionary by far
I searched for Thomas Paine with great expectations because of how often and highly Christopher Hitchens speaks of him. I am not disappointed.
Hitchens was great. I came here after reading about him in Carl Sagan's "The Demon-Haunted World."
Hitchens sent me here also
If hitch says they're extraordinary and great thinker then I believe him. There's something I've known for a long time but it's just really struck me in the past couple days that some of the greatest most clear thinkers especially in politics and philosophy are Riders. I heard Douglas Murray and Coleman Hughes speaking of this, both who are excellent Riders, and Douglas says clear riding is indication of clear thinking. Also Jordan Peterson says that universities and schools tell you to write but they never tell you why to write letter explain why and how it improves your ability to think. Because one there is no difference between thinking and writing they are the same thing but more importantly the riding forces you to put your thoughts in a digestible format and allows you to distill them down into the most beautiful sort of word equations if you will. As in equals MC square is short and concise and tells you tons of information likewise a statement that a excellent Rider makes is often short sweet to the point and Strikes you extremely hard because it's distilled Intuit Crystal form. Great writting is the crack of great thinking
SAME
Don't get me wrong, I love Hamilton, but who else feels Paine deserves a fucking awesome musical about his life, more?
He is great..
I’ve been saying this for so long
Dude, Hamilton was a crazy person.
A rare intellect and a timeless hero.
Thank you for this wonderful episode.
Great man. Loved the video
I studied him in school and he was the most intresting person with his pamhlets!!!
America's first socialist. Only 4 people went to his funeral, a mother and young son who lived on the land and two free free slaves, his friends. He was a champion for ending slavery and because of this and other reasons he died alone, forgotten and lost without tribute.
why was he a socialist?
@@taylorfloyd4785 He wasn't a literal socialist since of course socialism was just a basic idea by central European monks at this point, but some of his ideas can be seen as sort of a proto-socialism and I think even Marx has quoted him at times. He also started his political career as a trade unionist, which I find the most heartwarming. If you know anything about trade unions in the States, you'd know what the Socialists gave us in the 1920s and 30s.
Not forgotten. I'm reading about him now. RIP to Thomas Paine.
@@JoyDavidson Respect brother. We all need heroes.
1:18. Start of Thomas Paine.
As a british person, I was surprised he was british
dang
How? We learned about him in secondary school
Thomas Paine is without a doubt by favorite of the Founding Fathers.
The video is 9 mn I feel betrayed
Why is this NOT 5 minutes
Because 4 minutes of it was begging for charity
Taehyung’s Kookie - Well, you could start your own podcast, your own channel, produce the biography of Thomas Paine, and then you could make it as long as you want it to be.
EXACTLY, this is false advertising
Someone who walked the talk, led the fight from the frontline. With Shakespeare, one of the two greatest Englishman.
I appreciate if there was no background music.
Thank you
The Real T-Pain.
Great man painne
Thanks. What were the "certain indiscretions" that caused him to resign from the position of secretary of the Congressional Commitee on Foreign Affairs?
I imagine he and Ben Franklin are sipping a rose in the pantheon of the founding fathers.
Uhm...He was actually born on January 29th * 1737
THANK YOU! i was waiting for someone to correct them🤦♀️
Soo what els did they get wrong??.
There's actually genuine confusion in the records from the time, owing to a glitch in the calender!
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Paine#cite_note-Conway_group=Note-2
@@blackquiver See my reply above re DOB. I'm a published historian, working on a Paine biog, I promise you the rest of the video is accurate.
To a T I'm king of America! As a president just like this man I concord over all!
The split between him and Washington wasn't fleshed out enough.... I believe it was a mutual dislike so it wasn't just some far out belief of his that Robespierre and George wanted him dead which is how this made it sound
I think I have heard something like "It's questionable that Paine's plea to Washington for help at this time was actually recieved by Washington." And "Gov Morris (whome there was a runing fued with Paine about war profitering (?) with Paine...how fitting, if so.) meddled in the correspondence.
But, I agree there may have been a growing mutual dislike (although, I think Paine may have found out later that it wasn't just Washington that fell silent) I think Paine was adament that slavery be abolished, where as Washington was a...Landed Gentleman (?) that forstalled that until his death.
Thomas Paine is one of the few people who had the courage to say publicly that Jesus was a metaphor of the sun. I highly respect him for that.
could you explain more please?
@@sitarama2410 Jesus Christ's " miracles" and attributes are similar to characteristics of the sun. Light of the world, walks on water, dying for 3 days.
lol "about 5 minutes" but still a good story thank you
5 minute biography but its 9 minutes with a 1:18 intro
It seems that pain’s last work regarding reason undermines many of the points that he made in common sense. I think the problem isn’t faith so much as it is corruption in the church. There is a lot of corruption in the church, but faith is very real. It seems to me that a lot of people will turn their back on God because of what man has done to religion.
Good.
Faith is only real to the person that carries it. If everyone kept their faith to themselves, there would be no issues … but we all know that’s just not reality. This faith has been the imagined basis of much bloodshed and many of the world’s root problems.
I totally agree. As a young adult blamed the Christian religion for many of histories atrocities. As i got older I realized it's not Christianity or the Bible that's responsible for the misdeeds of men. People will always try to justify their immoral behavior by interpreting Christianity in a way that excuses or allows them to act however they want but that doesn't mean religion is inherently bad. There's nothing in the Christian religion that excuses immorality especially when it comes to hurting other people. Men will surely try to ruin anything that is good.
5 minute biographies
*Video is 9+ minutes long*
5 min? Rather 10 min 😄😂😂😂😂
Gretfarson
How did this guy die
Painefully🗿
The first American leftist
He would be labelled a terrorist by leftists if he lived in modern times actually.
@@PunchingCacti What makes you say that?
@@mariguana7918 He literally advocated overthrowing the government because they were barely even taxing them. Thomas Paine would be rolling over in his grave if he could see how much tax the citizens of the U.S. pay to a government that doesn't give a shit about them. Our evil government takes our money and spends it on warheads to drop on kids in other countries. He was anti taxation and anti big government which is the complete opposite of the modern leftist.
@@mariguana7918 He was essentially the boogaloo boy of the 17th century. He advocated killing people who governed over them with an iron fist and those who taxed them. He was against taxation without representation which is the complete opposite of a modern leftist who wants people to pay so a bunch of lazy millenials can sit around watching netflix
@@PunchingCacti I consider myself a leftist (kind of) and I agree with him and most of what you said too. The way I see it, the government is taxing regular people (I.e. people who work for a living ) out the ass, but letting rich oligarchs avoid paying taxes through financial trickery. And like you said, a huge chunk of that money is used on weapons to satisfy the military industrial complex. Having an issue with that is the difference between a leftist and some liberal SJW.
Was Thomas Paine Christian?
Agnostic
@@AlexGordonMusic Deist
Once you know Paine is a Godless heaven !!! His works become little more than leftwing toilet paper
Makes him all the better. He had a rational mind
@@roachedyourmom1357 Which any religion would sully free thinking....
What an ignorant comment. Paine was not Godless.
@@jlmur54 If only Paine had something to say about this EXACT thing... Yikes that guy missed by miles.
Agreed, You may know that Paine said something like "I believe in one god and hope to live in an after life."
Because he would not pay fealty to the priests of his day, like Jesus he was crucified, in a character assasination way. (along with actually being "beaten" when he came back to the states later in life..."States" being a part of the name he coined "These United States"
You may also know he said something like: " The world is my country and to do good is my religion." A true patriout. Though, I wouldn't be surprised if his character was a little hard to take. That often seems to go with the territory. But hey, I'm a jealous man ; )
Thank you