Definitely, even though the ones from Toyota are bulletproof. Especially the Hybrid eCVTs, which are a whole different principle. I'll always prefer a manual, but an eCVT is my second favourite.
Or that Nissan seems to care that much. I suspect that they work on the basis that it won’t fail on the first owner or under warranty so it’s not their problem.
You'd think with this much trouble they would have gone back to a conventional gear/clutch pack auto trans. These CVT's are nothing but a glorifed snowmobile clutch pack which used a rubber belt instead of a chain. These trans are utter garbage. If you dare pull a trailer you will kill your CVT even faster.
I’m confused, my wife owns a medical transportation business, pretty much like a Uber/taxi service to get you to and from hospital/ doctors appointments that medical insurance pays for. She has a fleet of 2-2019 Altimas, 1-2020 Nissan Sentra, 2-2020 Nissan Rouges, and 3-2018 Nissan pathfinder’s. All have CVT’s. The Altimas, Sentra, and Rouges all have over 160,000 miles since they are driven all day every day none stop and have never gave us any single issue with the CVT. The 3, 2018 Nissan Pathfinders all have over 220,000 miles and all of those have never gave us a single issue with the CVT. We change the oil in all our Nissans transmissions every 60,000 miles, and keep up with all other maintenance and not a single one of our Nissans has ever broken down excluding dead batteries of course but that’s pretty normal and nothing major. Reason why we have all Nissan in our fleet is because our friend owns a Nissan dealership and gave us huge discounts on every single one of them. Idk maybe I just got very lucky with our Nissans lol
Although you hammer the cars you also take car of them through service which you'd be surprised how many people don't do. Also the driving your Nissan's do is probably not so heavy and extreme so the load on your car is not much compared to a teen that's itching to go fast. All those things are factors but ultimately nissan has improved the CVT but have not perfected it.
@@str8xrippin my 2017 maxima has 130 k miles (previous owner towed bikes and quad bikes in the Saudi heat) and I myself second owner will sometimes do hard pulls and 0-60 . I mostly change oil early and take care of it.
I have a 2015 Nissan with a CVT. I have never had a problem. I suspect drivers are abusing their transmission. You can't drag race them or tow heavy loads. You can't drift or race them. Normal driving and proper maintenance , they will last a long long time. Also,Nissan has redesigned the new CVT. So this is all old news.
I worked selling cars in the mid 2010s. Had so many people trade in their Nissans because of faulty transmissions. The dealer I worked for didn't bother with selling used Nissan vehicles with CVTs. Those went straight to auction.
@@marvin7533 Yes, there is a lot of such data, from the constantly unreliable CVT, which has already become a meme, to the constant investigations by the feds with engine problems, airbags... + consumer reports, where Nissan is the only Japanese brand that always sits much much lower than all other Japanese brands .
I’ve seen at least 3 older Nissan Rogues stranded due to trans failure. One in the middle of a busy intersection. They are 100% going to fail if you own one.
The biggest mystery is why does Nissan continue using this transmission. They have the new 9-speed AT which is lightyears better than their CVT yet they keep using it which is a risk.
I have put on my 2017 maxima around 200k km (around 130k miles) and it was great no issues whatsoever ( I will usually change transmission oil before it due by 5k km or 10k km) the previous owner towed quad bikes and bikes ( in the Saudi Arabia heat). And still going strong.
@@Symantec-u1gthe Maxima is the only car model specifically excluded from this video, did you not watch it? Good for you, but there’s a reason your MAXIMA has not been affected like the other models lol..
One big unanswered question is why was Nissan allowed to continue selling cars with CVT in the USA after the proven defects and high rate of failure. Any other company with a product so defective would have been forced to withdraw that product from the market. It is criminal that Nissan is still selling cars today with CVT transmissions.
Not really Chrysler with the 9spd and even hinds had terrible transmissions in the accord and acura tl. They just fix them under warranty or the extend warranty up to 120k miles.
@@occckid123 It is a bloody shame when you consider that the engine and the transmission are solely made by the manufacturer. Just about every other part on the car can be had from the aftermarket parts bin..
Or Fords Dual-Clutch. The NHTSA investigation found internal documents that told the maintenance technicians in the dealerships to tell customer's that they had never heard of a Dual Clutch transmission failure. But they continued to sell them.
We have a 2014 Nissan rouge with a cvt and 170k miles if you actually change the every 30k they will outlast a normal transmission. There is way too much misinformation around the Nissan cvts.
I have a 3rd gen Prius and I know all the common issues with these cars. The transmission never fails. I have seen zero people complain and I’m on all the maintenance forums. It’s always head gaskets, battery’s, ABS, and the available inverter at around 175k+ mileage.
@@mylesgray3470 my Lexus GS450H failed on its transmission which I was told was omly the second such fault in all of Europe. I felt so unlucky. It was a failure on MG2 resolver sensor and can affect the prius. Swapped in a used unit entire gearbox and no issues since.
The main problem it’s your “owners may not be maintaining their CVTs” point is that the official service schedule for all of these cars at no point has a fluid change for the CVTs, just “inspect the fluid”… on a transmission without a dipstick… you know these owners are having someone else do this stuff, so they hope the service provider actually does it AND recommends a fluid change when needed. Which is a $300+ job. Nissan brought it on themselves for normalizing the neglect of those transmissions. Edit: Apparently I've been called out for "lying" or spreading misinformation. I'm not. The passage above hasn't been touched. I've had to lookup the service schedules and maintenance sections of manuals of multiple CVT equipped Nissan passenger vehicles, INCLUDING THE ONE I OWN and it looks like I'm correct. In most situations, all that would be done is an inspection of the fluid, unless you are under certain driving conditions or the service dept. of the dealer you take the vehicle to recommends it (after the customer determines if the dealer isn't just trying to drum up business by recommending unnecessary maintenance, look it up, its a common practice). There is no simple, "Just change the fluid every x miles and do it more often if you beat the snot out of it." As a result, the service often doesn't get done and the transmission often fails.
No wonder. Mitsubishi recommends changing fluid (drain and fill?) every 30K miles. There is also a filter in the oil cooler housing that needs to be changed.
@@GF-mf7ml The video is referring to Jatco CVTs. The ones found in Nissans and some Chrysler products. Toyota's transmissions are usually built by Aison or in-house. They typically have a physical first gear as they found that the most wear on the belt comes when taking off from a stand still where the most torque can be placed on it, or are eCVTs, which is part of their Hybrid Synergy drivetrain and a whole different beast. If people wanted to get a Corolla, they would have gotten a Corolla, but most likely couldn't afford it so they are in a Sentra/Altima and Nissan is known for having deeper discounts off MSRP and giving credit to far less qualifying buyers. If those people could afford a Toyota, they would already have one.
Is weird how many nissans are on the road, how many people keep buying Nissans, a Nissan could have been the perfect affordable car if it wasn't for this 30 year transmission problem.
I'll never forget when my father, who is a mechanic, bought a 2017 Nissan SUV. I immediately told him that he really shouldn't have because of the CVT, but he tried to reassure me that they worked out all the problems. Well, you guessed it, 2023 and it was slipping BAD.
Evidently many new car buyers failed to do their homework before buying a Nissan CVT. The JATCO CVT problems have been known for many years. I did my research when shopping for a new car in 2018 and bought a new Nissan with a manual transmission.
I haven’t had any issues with Nissan CVT , 5 vehicles and no issues and over 100,000 miles when sold Still have a Nissan Rogue with 125,000 miles and a 2024 Sentra , would I recommend a Nissan? Absolutely, have recommended to 3 friends who bought Sentra . I do the drain and fill CVT fluid change every 35000 miles and change external filter at 100,000 miles, 0 issues so far .
@scott8238 Your hilarious. CVT is not a good match for automotive application. They suck.and are way more expensive than an old fashioned Torque converter transmission.
Why the reference to the planetary transmission in the Toyota Prius? There is no comparison in design function or even purpose. As I understand it (I'm sure someone can explain it better), the Prius planetary gearset accepts varying inputs from multiple sources (motor and engine, in proportions determined by the computer at any given moment) and transmits the sum of those inputs to the final drive. It's not there to vary the gearing between engine and final drive like a Nissan CVT or any conventional transmission.
Totally agreed. I've always been annoyed when people confuse the eCVT (Toyota, Ford, Honda) with the dual-cone type CVT. The biggest issue with dual-cone type CVT is that it depends on surface to surface friction to work. None of the eCVT transmissions do.
A planetary gearset (a sun gear connected to three planetary gears connected to an outer ring gear) requires two power sources to produce one output. One is provided by the gas engine, the other by the electric motor. Both can work together or either can be locked out to allow the other to power the car.
1989 Subaru Justy was first CVT I can think of in the US. The CVT for Nissan has been a nightmare but I have to give them credit as they are usually the company to implement new technologies prior to everyone else.
@@elmaster6207 that’s odd you know . After Datsun “came out the closet”🤣 as Nissan they kind of caught up with Toyotas line up with the Maxima , 300 ZX ,and Pathfinder. Crying azz shame what has happened to them . My dad was Certified mechanic for VW as well as Datsun back in the 70s . He loved those cars , but was out of the profession by the time they changed the label to Nissan . Lord have mercy , you didn’t want to get in a discussion with him over the Z cars ! In his mind the 240 z was the best sports car ever ! I can still hear him say the 260, and 280 were inferior products . No one believes that the 240s would out run the corvettes back then with the (smog pump) emissions bypassed , there was even a performance package that was offered with a crane cam offenhauser intake and a 400 Holley
@@ramie-uz9xi It was hard to decide between the Cressida (I had an 87) and them Maxima. Both were considered the "Lexus" of their day. Remember that automatic seat belt? People were so surprised when you gave the a ride and you knew it was going to...lol
My dad is a retired mechanic of 50 years. We saw a lot of Nissan CVT failures. We would get a new factory unit and install it for the customer only to have it go again in the next 1-2 years. These owners all kept up with their oil changes and we even added external oil coolers for some to see if we could stop the failures and they still continued to happen. They are just poorly designed.
Why would a company continue with a component that they themselves see as defective and is costing them tonnes of money and damaging their brand reputation? The sunk R&D expenditure on this component can't be enough by itself to warrent them being so resistant to change. Why do they want this component SO badly?
Riding lawnmowers use CVTs. People who claim to hate them don't actually hate them, it's just about application. CVTs are perfect for slow, low power vehicles that are driven by grannies. You can't give them hell. The Nissan CVT was a disaster, but they're not all bad. I wouldn't recommend pairing a CVT with anything above 4 cylinders or forced induction, it just doesn't work. Btw I got 30 mpg on the highway with a 5 speed manual with the same 3.5VQ- in a 2005 Nissan Altima SE. That thing had great power, I can't imagine putting a CVT behind it- it would burn that transmission alive. CVTs can't handle power, they're not meant to, they're meant to be efficient. Not everything is a race car nor can it be and that's ok. Everyone needs a grocery getter.
I just bought a cheap Nissan Versa from 2010 with 155k miles. It drives really nice. You know what it has for a transmission? A good old 4 speed automatic! I made sure to steer away from the CVT models. Now, my coworker bought a brand new Nissan Sentra a couple of years ago and he changed the CVT fluid after 30k miles. And his CVT is still working great. So the question is, if you change the CVT fluid on these things every 30k miles, will it last long term? He has 55k miles on his Sentra and he takes good care of it indeed. That helps a lot. The jury is still out though on the fluid changes every 30k on these CVTS 🤔. Nissan recently went back to standard automatics and got rid of the CVT on their newer Pathfinder and Infiniti QX60 indeed. At least they are starting to get it.
My 2008 versa with the cvt had 210k miles on in with no cvt issue and I only changed the fluid once. I test drive the 4spd and its a terrible transmission. You can get to the power much quicker with the cvt and it gets better mpg. 4spd had wayyy 2 much dead spots.
@@occckid123 I drove a Versa (rented one) that only had like 5k miles? And that CVT felt HORRIBLE. So I don't know if that car was already abused? Not sure. I'm glad to know that you didn't have any CVT issues. Maybe it's the way people drive their cars today. Full pedal to the metal and no maintenance 😅
@joseCalderon1976 I mean I doubt it. You bang drive the cvt the way you drive a 4spd auto. You should always know what your transmission is going to do and how your throttle inputs reacts to affecting torque converter lockup or release and you learn how to ride the torque or just let it sit at redkine for max power and that's where the cvt was better than the 4spd. The 4spd wastes fuel my only locking the converter around 40mph. The cvt can lock the torque converter at around 12 mph or so. Letting the torque drive the car and not feeling loose. It's all in how you drive it. People drive with an on and off foot and the cvt doesn't like that.
My 2015 Sentra SV has 190,000 miles on the original CVT, it works perfectly, regular transmission fluid and filter changes, and not driving it hard nor hot are probably why. Not hard to service the CVT, you can do it yourself in about 1 hour if you're handy with a ratchet
I owned a 2013 Nissan Altima with one of those garage Jatco CVT and had to get the transmission replaced in the first 5k miles of owning the vehicle so maintenances was definitely not the issue. Brought the car brand new off the lot and drove it for 2 months in normal mixed driving with mostly highway and some city driving and by 5k miles I had issues with the transmission stuttering and a weird metallic grinding noise developed. Took it to the dealership and they said there was an issue and had to replace the transmission, thankfully under warranty but clearly not a good sign. I will admit that the replacement transmission did held out for 150k miles when I sold the car but god forbid if anyone had issues just right after the warranty period
I just bought a 3.5 2010 altima with 71k miles last friday, praying it lasts me until I at least pay it off (2 years max).... It drives very smooth though and no noises. I heard the 3.5 cvt's are stronger
My Mitsubishi Lancer ES uses the same transmission. Funny thing is, Mitsubishi transmissions last longer. However, Nissan uses different fluid compaired to Mitsubishi. Coincidence?
I have a 2011 Mitsubishi Outlander with CVT. I changed the transmission oil around 140k with Amsoil cvt oil , replace tranny filter and cooler line filter. It’s running strong with 146K
@@matthewreed1078 Funny thing mitsubishis cvt are the same Jatco units as nissans... The thing is mitsubishi payed more atention to the engineering of them and added transmittion coolers and diferent cvt oil, I dont even understand how Nissan has outsold mitsubishi with inferior investments on their cars "important" parts
I work at a Nissan dealership and I can say from what I've seen, do not buy a new Sentra or Rogue. Some cars even with the CVT go higher than 200k miles (ofc I don't know how many transmissions they've had replaced to get there.) However, the 2021-2024 Sentras in particular are so unreliable that they're basically money cows to the service department. We've also had a 2024 Rogue with less than 200 miles that had to have the engine replaced because it had seized.
I recall about 10 years ago the Sentra transmission had no cooler and was prone to overheating while all the other Nissans actually had a cooler installed. I’m guessing that’s still the case. Need to be gentile on freeway speed hill climbs in the summer or it will go into limp mode and do major damage.
Got my 2004 sentra for 4k and it went over 150 k miles and 10 years with no major repairs until it was traded in. Too bad the quality suffers. I'd get a new version of this old car in a heart beat of it existed.
The main problem is, alot of people dont keep up with maintenance on their vehicle. Since cvt's are different than traditional automatic transmission, you still got to drive them differently. I got a 2009 Nissan Murano SL & haven't had no problem, because i stay ontop of maintenance of my vehicle. I bought the car used & the first thing i did, was change all the main fluid in the car, within a week & that helped me, cause its on my schedule. I know people that sold cars & told people they just changed plugs & fluids, but in reality, they havent done maintenance in years.
In reality, it’s luck of the draw fam. I’m on my 2nd CVT in 3 years. Baby em, maintain em, don’t matter. New CVT is just gettin to 60k miles and I’m already gettin P1778, same code I was gettin on the last one. Changed the fluid twice so far and I don’t drive her hard at all. It’s a shyt tranny fam. Only good thing that’s come out of it is it makes me take a lot more initiative as far as maintaining and repairing my own shyt lol
I agree with you, people can’t maintain their vehicles, CVT transmission has to be driven gently. My father just bought 2024 Nissan Sentra, he stomped on it from 40 to 60 and I was in the backseat and just laughed silently because I don’t do that with my 2020 Corolla. I felt like telling him that the transmission is not meant for hard acceleration lol
Nissan is replacing the CVT in my 17 Pathfinder with a remanufactured CVT direct from the factory. Question is has Nissan made improvements to the original design to alleviate future issues or is it the same faulty CVT transmission they used when the vehicle was made?
A factory reman is from an already failed cvt... it might get a new belt and was cleaned up... possible a pully or something was replaced but that's what they are. If you plan in keeping it drain and replace fluid every year... and replace filters and fluid every 30k or so... it's not as bad as it sounds but do strict maintenance from now on.. don't rag (high rpm) on it
Nissans new CVT-X is all new and should be fairly bulletproof. It’s now a dual pump design with 30% less friction. I’d prefer a traditional automatic myself but Nissan has completely redone their CVTs.
For the sake of the customers, I hope they are more reliable. I have nostalgia for the old Nissan, but hopefully this a step in the right direction for the company.
It will take years and people putting on a lot of miles to really see if they are that much better. Now they have a 3 cylinder variable compression motor with a turbo to go with the CVT, sounds like more problems to me.
@@TheCaptjamestkirkYeah, and Rube Goldberg is shaking his head, saying " Those silly, ovecomplicated and ridiculous machines in my newspaper comics were meant to be jokes, not instruction manuals!"
Honestly, this video has terrible editing. Half the images on screen don't have anything to do with what is being said. The information is good. The visuals aren't. This would be better to just listen to.
I’ve worked at a rental car company for ten years and never not once did I ever see a cvt from any manufacturer fail. During covid some had over 150,000kms on them cause we can’t get new cars and they still were fine. Nissan included
@@mylesgray3470 They fail when people burn up the fluid. You can drive them 1,000 miles in 100 degree heat and burn up the fluid and the CVT will be toast in 2,000 miles. Like the parent comment said, Nissan recommends fluid "inspections". Fluid can last 80k in these cars if babied. Another thing to note is that it's hard to identify if the fluid is toast. Using the dipstick and paper towel does not provide enough indication if the fluid is junk. You have to drain ~100 mL into a white cup to see if there is a tinge of black to it. Sounds like Jakechappell9241 lives somewhere where it's relatively flat. Hills + heat + roadtrip = dead CVT. It's all about your judgement if you think you drove it in hard enough conditions to warrant a fluid inspection.
@@garneroutlaw1 That makes a lot of sense. The Senta doesn’t have a trans cooler, making the transition overheat even more likely when climbing hills at high speed on a hot day.
I got a very low milage 2017 Nissan Sentra in 2020 for a bargain. However since I was a student and there was the pandemic I barely put any mileage on the car. After 2.5 years I took my car to Nissan service and (Had maybe 18k miles) they told me that apparently my Sentra's transmission software had a bug that made it so it did not report any codes. They told me they had to update the software and they would check it at my next service appointment. Next appointment (22k miles) comes around and I noticed the service appointment was taking an extra long time. The agent comes out to me and says my transmission has a serious code reported on it and the car can't be driven until it's fixed. Thanks to the lawsuits, they were required to extend my warranty on the transmission when they did my software update so I got a free rebuilt transmission and got to drive a nice new Nissan Rogue for a week. However, it's scary to think now if I had a driving heavy job (like I do now) or had to drive a lot to school there was the possibility my transmission could have just failed on me... I hope Nissan does better in the future.
I have a 2017 Nissan Sentra with a CVT and it is at 126,000 miles on the original CVT. Bought it new with 25 miles on it. No issues with it in the 7 years I've owned it.
If the fluids been changed at least once, no surprise. If it’s original trans fluid, I’m very surprised.. and you would be on borrowed time at that mileage.
😔 my friend's Sentra's CVT just died and now she's a car-less mother of two. It tends to affect the most vulnerable people who are least able to absorb the financial hit.. 😠
I worked for Nissan in the 2010s and once had a CVT fail on me on the way to put gas in a PDI car. For those that don't know that's when you put gas in a brand new car for the first time. This car had 13 miles on it and the CVT failed. Nissan sent reps out and they suggested it was the computer but after replacing everything but the transmission we ended up replacing the transmission. I still wonder to this day how that car fared after being sold brand new with an already replaced transmission.
I’ve got a 2022 Altima that’s doing all the signs of cvt failure… massive delay in accelerating from a stop, crazy vibrations at low speed acceleration ever since about 40k miles. The good thing about it is that the local dealership can’t/won’t do anything about it until a check engine light comes on! Hopefully I’ll get rear ended at a light and it’ll total this piece of junk so I can get the Honda I wanted in the first place
They're not quite as fragile as they used to be but still have a long way to go before being called reliable. They're extremely sensitive to the fluid, so getting it changed every 30k miles or 3 years, minimum, will prolong the life of any push-belt CVT.
@@Grafyte sad to hear. I just bought a new car and I really wanted to consider Nissan, but I just don’t trust their CVTs. Hondas and Toyotas seem to hold up just fine at least.
@@michaelw6277the only CVT I dare to buy is Toyota Corolla CVT, because many people drive it 200k miles without fluid change. I saw Honda CVT have failure after high mileage.
I’m just grateful my 3rd gen Altima doesn’t have a CVT. 501k miles later she’s still hanging on to dear life 😀 Original owner with original motor and 4 speed auto
@@christopherhamilton5557it's the owners mostly kids that doesn't maintain and driving their cvt like race cars,my 14 sentra has 200k and still runs like new.i have a friend who owned the same car broke his cvt at 14k miles.when we pick it up and saw how he drives i already know why,he effin floors it everytime as if it's a conv. AT 😂
@@christopherhamilton5557 could just be the manufacturing process or materials used. I find it very odd also. They tell the suppliers to cut cost. Well then...
My parents had a 14 Altima and the put 235k miles on it before it was totaled in a wreck. Trans was still kicking. Mostly 60mph highway miles, rather than freeway or city miles. They were good about fluid changes but usually a little past what the book said. They replaced the car with an identical one.
Cars with CVTs vary gearbox ratios at a fixed engine RPM to accelerate; others use the motor to accelerate at a fixed gear ratio. I think motors do a better job of accelerating.
I have a friend who bought a Nissan Altima brand new back in 2011 and as far as I know he didn’t have any problem with the CVT. He still uses it as a secondary car now. I also had a conversation with a Nissan salesman regarding the cvt issue and he told me that most failures happened from a fault in the temperature sensor of the transmission back in 2008 to 2013 and that issue was resolved after that. What I deducted was. 1- Changing the transmission fluid alongside both the filter and the pan prematurely goes a long way. 2- installing an additional transmission cooler in hot climates is preferred.
I bought a new 2007 Nissan Sentra with the cvt transmission. Nissan offered cvt or 6 speed manual only. I went thru 3 transmissions before the car hit 50,000 miles. After the third transmission Nissan said they wouldn’t replace another one. I will never buy another Nissan, they are still crap, the transmission is still crap. I would think they would have fixed the darn thing.
Think maybe a lot of it is you driving style? You cannot hammer on them they will not take. How you drive your car has a lot to do with how it holds up.
I get 300k miles out of my Nissan Jatco transmissions. I change the fluid and 1:53 every 25k religiously along with both filters. Sometimes even the Nissan shops don’t change the cartridge cooler filter which will lead to death. And I only use genuine Nissan fluid. I’ve seen aftermarket fluid destroy these CVTs the new Toyota CVT’s are almost bulletproof if you changes the fluid regularly.
Transmission maintenance?!? I bought a 2013 Altima, new off of the showroom floor and one of the points the salesman stressed was that the transmission would never need servicing, that the transmission fluid was a lifetime fluid never to be changed. Not knowing any better in those days I believed him and thought this feature was pretty nice. Then in less than 2000 miles the entire engine had to be replaced along with a new fuel pump because they were assembled with defects. Then after 4 broken engine mounts in less than 8 months (I drive very conservatively... ask my wife) I got soured on Nissan and how the service manager continually lied to me about why the car was shaking (from the bad motor mounts). I got rid of the Altima and I will never spend my money on another Nissan product again.
@@occckid123 the dealership replaced the motor mounts the first two times under warranty, when the engine started to shake again. Took it in again, their mechanic inspected the car (so they said), and the service manager said nothing was found wrong with the car, he assured me the vibration was normal. I got pissed because I knew he was lying to me, I then asked him (paraphrasing), "so when I bought the car it was NOT normal for it to run without any vibration?" He refused to answer the question and walked away. That was the last time I set foot onto their dealership. I went to an independent mechanic (who verified that it was indeed bad motor mounts) and he fixed the problem. I wrote a letter to Nissan corporate about my experience, never heard back from them.
@@occckid123 probably right but I was so soured on the Nissan brand by that time I just wanted to get rid of the car. Been driving Subarus since and 100% satisfied with them and the dealership. We've now got seven of them between us, kids and grandkids. Waiting for the 2025-26(?) Forester Wilderness for my next Subaru.
@@BusterKitten subaru is pretty ok just watch out for oil consumption issues. Don't let the oil get low and you have to watch oit for the cvt. The cvt is serviceable and needs the fluid changed contrary to what they've said. My coworker just replaced his cvt in his crosstrek..
As someone who has a 2014 Nissan Sentra with the CVT, and knowing about many of them failing, its a bit scary driving it, knowing it could fail. I try not to hard accelerate in it and got the fluid changed at 50k miles to make sure it stays healthy. I heard that sometimes metal flakes could get in the oil pump and decrease transmission fluid pressure in the system, causing premature wear. Idk how true that is. Pretty sad state Nissan is in, hope they can improve and make good cars again!
2014 is getting up there, at this point I wouldn't stress about it. Drive it, keep the fluids changed, and put away a little each month for a replacement car. If it does die, just dump it for something else.
The maintenance recommended in any car's service manual is only enough to get the vehicle to the end of its warranty. However, belt-driven CVT transmissions require a lot more maintenance if the owner intends to keep the car after it's out of warranty.
You probably need to change the fluid and filter every 20,000 miles. I think that's what the CarWizard on TH-cam recommends, and he owns a Nissan Cube.
I bought a new 2007 Nissan Sentra with the cvt. I went through three transmissions before my car hit 50,000 miles. Nissan said they wouldn’t cover the next trans failure. I sold it immediately and will not buy another Nissan.
I had a 2013 Sentra with a CVT failure at 160K miles in 2023. I got a new CVT for $3,500 at the dealer. The car is in showroom condition. I hope to get another 160K out of it.
You will if you don't drive it on long road trips through the hills or in very hot weather. Learn how to inspect the fluid. Drain ~100 ml into a white cup. Any tinge of black warrants a fluid change. Know this fluid can last 1,000 miles or 100,000 miles. It's susceptible to overheating. It's all determinate on how you drive and how hard of conditions the car has been put through. Drive through the Ozarks in your Nissan? That warrants an immediate fluid inspection and/or change. Drive 10 miles in easy conditions commuting to work @ 55mph for a year? I wouldn't even bother inspecting until 60,000 miles. Light brown is okay. Tiny tinge of black is no good. Dipstick and paper towel DO NOT provide a good enough indicator.
I have a '16 Maxima that I bought new. It now has 159,000 miles on its original CVT. I changed the fluid @60K, 118K and 150K miles (with that last one also having the filter and strainer replaced). I feel like this car can go on forever (so far).
CHEAP CHEAP CHEAP!!! It doesn’t make any sense!!! After all these years you’d think Nissan’s transmissions would be better than they actually are. I see why Honda and Toyota are outselling them every single day!!!
I have a 2017 maxima platinum with 151,000 miles and no issues....why dont Nissan use the same cvt in the rest as they do the maxima? Makes since to me.
People are just not maintaining their vehicles and not draining and refilling CVT transmission fluid at recommended intervals is what’s getting most people caught.
@@alvinsimba734 I'm glad I have 3 vehicles. It allows me to shelve my Nissan if I drive it in harsh conditions until I have time to do a fluid inspection and/or change. Inspecting the fluid is absolutely vital in all Nissan CVTs. Driving in any tough conditions in temperatures over 90 degrees warrants an immediate fluid inspection which entails draining ~100 ml of fluid into a white cup. Dipstick and paper towel do not provide a good enough indication on if your fluid has been burned up. If the fluid has ANY tinge of black to it, it's burnt. This is why you hear people driving 15k miles and having a CVT failure or at 80k. It's not dependent on the maintenance interval - because there is no interval. If you are sticking to a fixed interval of something like 60k, your CVT will be toast before you know it. Inspect, inspect, inspect. Don't put in knockoff CVT fluid, only OEM Nissan NS-2 or NS-3. If you listen to me, your Nissan will last 300k+.
@@garneroutlaw1 I appreciate your info there. My father has a 2024 Nissan Sentra and I have a 2020 Corolla LE and both of them have CVTs but I prefer my Toyota for driving over the Nissan and I also love the seats in the Nissan but yes the maintenance for me it’s every 8000km and when I checked for my cvt drain and fill it’s at 96000km but my fathers might be earlier than that so we will see how it does.
I bought a 2007 Altima with a manual for $3000. Almost has 180k miles and according to the guy I bought it from, it is all original. Runs great too. The only real issue it has is that oil is disappearing slowly (still trying to find out why, but there is no sign of burning or leaking). It just isn't the prettiest.
I came from a 6-speed Elantra and got a Corolla with the CVT. Almost as reliable as a regular automatic. I’ll admit, I get a lil bit sad remembering my Elantra and all the fun I had, but the CVT Corolla will probably outlive it.
As someone who has loved Nissan's since they were Datsun's, the CVT fiasco damn near broke me. I bought a Frontier specifically to avoid a CVT. I love my truck, I think Nissan makes a great looking Coupe, Sedan...I guess SUV, but those damned CVT's.
I work at honda. They really don't complain. You could come in first time doing a cvt service at 130k. It will be okay. Newer Honda regular auto trans have issues quickly with lack of maintenance. We replace these all the time but I never really see a cvt trans being replaced.
There's a Honda dealership next door where I work at and sometimes I can't tell if it's transmissions or engines getting replaced, I'm betting it's the 1.5T engines.
I have owned a 2004 Nissan X Trail ST 4x4 for the last 10 years. It has only 170,000 Km, and has been regularly serviced since new. Still drives and feels almost new, with the 2.5 ltr petrol engine. The Nissan, and its reliability has impressed me. Naturally, the Automatic Gearbox on our Nissan is REAL!! I was about to go out and purchase a 2 - year old Nissan X Trail, until I checked and discovered that the "modern" version of the X Trail was fitted with a CVT Unit. I ask this question: Why re-invent the Wheel?? CVTs have been around (at a guess) the 1950s. I have also worked in Industry with CVT Units, that operate on the Cone Principal. I have seen them get so hot, that you can very easily fry an egg on them!! If the CVT in the Nissan is getting hot, then the laws of Thermodynamics tell me that this is energy (which should be driving the wheels) - is lost - as heat. Sorry, but now it will be a purchase of some alternative Japanese SUV - that is still manufactured with a real, conventional Automatic Gearbox
Because not every single car is affected. You gotta look at it as a "failure rate", the rate of failure is higher than other transmissions. Let's say instead of 1% of cars being prematurely plagued with transmission issues it's 20%
The issue is you couldn’t get the CVT’s serviced, Jeep in particular told you it was lifetime fluid. Transmission shops also didn’t like touching cvts unless they needed to be replaced
A case study on how to make such and bad transmission and yet keep in the market for 25+ years. An applaud to Nissan, that takes some skill to pull off...
I thinks its a case of the transmission that is weak and not designed for abuse. The reason that many continue to be sold is because partly many people refuse to belive the transmission is problematic and partly because some people baby their car and get some high mileage without issue. Finally there are some people who do zero maintenance and still expect car to work fine. For example you need to change fluids like transmission fluid every so often.
It's not weak. It's the best transmission on the market. Problem is people like you believe there is a set maintenance interval on the CVT fluid. You are wrong and so many mechanics out there are dead WRONG. The maintenance interval is to change the fluid whenever your CVT fails a fluid inspection. That could be at 1,000 miles or 100,000 miles. If you drive your car through prolonged tough conditions in the heat, it warrants an immediate inspection and/or change. The fluid does not like heat. Inspecting entails draining ~100 mL of fluid into a white cup and seeing if there's ANY tinge of black in the fluid. Light brown is okay. I would recommend inspecting every 3rd oil change if you are babying it. Only use NS-2 Nissan fluid. DO NOT SKIMP and buy Valvoline or some 3rd party fluid.
My brother has been leasing and driving NISSANs with the CVTs for 25 years-never had a problem. He always had the transmission fluid changed using NISSAN fluid and drove conservatively
Yes, these transmissions are definitely junk. My daughters 2020 Nissan Versa's failed at 82k miles. When I asked the service department if the fluid change was part of the maintenance schedule and they said no, but customers do have it done. This company needs to add fluid changes like Honda and other manufacturers do. Otherwise, don't buy cars with a CVT.
Even with regular maintenance I learned the that nissians CVTs eventually wear out. MINE was serviced every 12 to 30k miles. The continuous running metal belt rubbing and rubbing. Some people get lucky and go forever but alot don't. Their will be alot more lawsuits comming.
Mine started falling at 104k miles. Replaced the stepper motor and fluid with filter but it seemed to work then again and again the same p17778 codes. I think possibly the tourque converter went out on it but a nissian technition told me to replace the transmission. I was so stressed out and was able to just get rid of it after I hit 112k miles. It was a big costly mistake having it. Nissian maxima 2014, v6 engine
The oil in a CVT should be changed every 10,000 miles. The factory says it's "lifetime" fluid or has a very long drain interval. They create a lot of heat which burns the lubricating oil up pretty fast. So... they should have a bigger trans oil cooler and a short trans oil drain interval. Learn to do the drain and fill by yourself at home to save money.
I've owned a couple Nissans. A 2012 Altima Coupe SR and a 2018 Sentra Nismo. Both had a CVT. I just changed the fluid and filter every 20k miles. Both lasted over 200k miles without zero issues. Finally sold them and sticking with geared automatic Toyotas only.
I just watched a video on another finance channel where a struggling single mom phoned in. She had to replace her Nissan’s transmission 3 times, $4k each time, in a short amount of time. Devastating for her finances. She is part of the class action lawsuit.
I had a 2011 Murano from 2018 to 2024. The biggest issue I had with it was the noise from the manifold exhaust pipe. Some friends liked it because it sounded like a V8 LOL. Never had an issue with the CVT. It might have been I gave it maintenance, and that I never accelerated like many maniacs do. My habits from learning manual shift might have helped well too
I bought a new Nissan in 2021 I new about the cvt transmission so keep up with maintenance had transmission flushed and filters replaced and everything works great y have to do maintenance it a very good car took it on a road trip from Michigan to Florida get around 38 to 40 miles to the gallon
CVT longevity seems to depend on at least 4 factors, your CVT make and year, how quickly you accelerate or whether you tow anything, how much you drive in extreme heat or cold, and how often you change the CVT trans fluid and the 2 filters (maintenance interval). MY 2015 Sentra has 190,000 miles on the CVT and has never had any problems. I recently dropped the pan, inspected thr fluid, and changed both filters, the belt and spool showed minimal wear.
I've had 5 Altimas from 2010 to 2024. A 2013 I had blew the transmission at 2900 miles (yes less than 3000 miles). When I've taken the cars in to have their "transmission flush", they not only don't change the filters but one dealership said they had never seen the filters changed. Looks like on the 2024, I'm going to be doing my own fluid changes so the filters actually get changed. When I wrote Nissan about how often the filters should be changed, they said I'd need to contact the dealer. Talk about a Catch-22!!! I find the Altima a great car and have had virtually NO problems with them other than the 2013 transmission. I DO trade them in before the warranty is up though. After owning 5 Toyotas and 1 Honda, I still like the general quality of the Altima the best. The 2007 Camry and 2009 Accord I had were two of the biggest pieces of junk I've ever owned. Disappointing after owning a Corolla, a Celica, a Supra, and an ES300.
I recall several older Nissans (pre 2003) having transmission failures pretty frequently. I also remember this for the first gen Ford Taurus! What’s the deal with those?
I am picking up my family's 5th Nissan this week. We have been driving Nissans exclusively since 2019 and have never had any issues, large or small, with them. However, I only lease them and would not consider owning a Nissan long-term due to their track record. If I did ever purchase one for the long-term, I would definitely change the transmission oil at 40 to 50,000 km and avoid aggressive acceleration!
Question: At the end of the video, it shows a guy accelerating in what appears to be a Nissan Altima and then "stalling". Why do the reverse lights come on just before or immediately when the car stops going forward??? Is this also an issue with the CVT that it can involuntarily change the type of gear??? Or did this person purposely muck it up to make it look bad???
I had purchased a used 2017 Nissan Sentra three years ago and was told it was a rental by a Nissan dealer in Phoenix Az. I wasn’t informed that the transmission needed extra attention in servicing. It recently started to have acceleration problems with the air conditioning on. Took to a Nissan dealer in Flagstaff Az and was told that it needed a new transmission at a cost of $8K. They didn’t mention anything about the the class action lawsuits. So, not only Nissan and their dealerships are keeping quiet about theproblems with CVT’s. I don’t have the money for a replacement and most of those lawsuits listed on the internet are closed.
I have a 2014 sentra with almost 120000 miles. Kept up with maintenance of the CVT, but just very recently it started to shudder and vibrate. Took it in the past week, and they ruled out that it’s not the transmission or the mounts, but a stupid engine cover that is loose. It made me wonder, however, how can a piece of plastic make a car shudder? Will be getting the part soon, and will see if it changes anything. Gave the car some fuel system cleaner also. I hope this helps. Because if it still doesn’t help, that means it’s the stupid transmission, and it’s time for me to let it go and sell the car. I don’t have $4000 plus in my bank account for a new CVT.
The Prius doesn't have CVT. If it did, Prius transmission failure would be a thing. But it isnt. It has a motor / generator, and a gear reduction unit. No belt. No drive / driven pulleys.
I bought my Nissan Altima brand new in 2015 and kept up with the maintenance change the transmission fluid at 60,000 miles and now I’m gonna change it every 25,000 miles. Another thing that could be killing. It is how people drive their cars. The CVT isn’t meant to be a get up and go like a normal transmission(in my opinion) so if you’re riding rough, it can and will probably slip on you.
Nissan singlehandedly ruined my perception of CVTs and I suspect a lot of the public's too
Yep. Definitely.
We should consider thanking Nissan for this object lesson in What Not To Ever Do.
If you realize that you also realize that they are reliable and efficient when done correctly
Yeah it ruined mine but then I drove my grandma's Honda CR-V and it's literally the second best transmission to my 6 speed manual Mazda3
Definitely, even though the ones from Toyota are bulletproof. Especially the Hybrid eCVTs, which are a whole different principle. I'll always prefer a manual, but an eCVT is my second favourite.
You would think after 32 years Nissan would have had the CVT perfected but nope
I don’t think it’s possible to perfect a CVT.
Maybe not perfect but close @@ashc3765
Or that Nissan seems to care that much. I suspect that they work on the basis that it won’t fail on the first owner or under warranty so it’s not their problem.
And usually stuff from Japan are good
You'd think with this much trouble they would have gone back to a conventional gear/clutch pack auto trans. These CVT's are nothing but a glorifed snowmobile clutch pack which used a rubber belt instead of a chain. These trans are utter garbage. If you dare pull a trailer you will kill your CVT even faster.
I’m confused, my wife owns a medical transportation business, pretty much like a Uber/taxi service to get you to and from hospital/ doctors appointments that medical insurance pays for. She has a fleet of 2-2019 Altimas, 1-2020 Nissan Sentra, 2-2020 Nissan Rouges, and 3-2018 Nissan pathfinder’s. All have CVT’s. The Altimas, Sentra, and Rouges all have over 160,000 miles since they are driven all day every day none stop and have never gave us any single issue with the CVT. The 3, 2018 Nissan Pathfinders all have over 220,000 miles and all of those have never gave us a single issue with the CVT. We change the oil in all our Nissans transmissions every 60,000 miles, and keep up with all other maintenance and not a single one of our Nissans has ever broken down excluding dead batteries of course but that’s pretty normal and nothing major. Reason why we have all Nissan in our fleet is because our friend owns a Nissan dealership and gave us huge discounts on every single one of them. Idk maybe I just got very lucky with our Nissans lol
Although you hammer the cars you also take car of them through service which you'd be surprised how many people don't do. Also the driving your Nissan's do is probably not so heavy and extreme so the load on your car is not much compared to a teen that's itching to go fast. All those things are factors but ultimately nissan has improved the CVT but have not perfected it.
@@str8xrippin my 2017 maxima has 130 k miles (previous owner towed bikes and quad bikes in the Saudi heat) and I myself second owner will sometimes do hard pulls and 0-60 . I mostly change oil early and take care of it.
@@Symantec-u1g thats great to hear
I have a 2015 Nissan with a CVT. I have never had a problem. I suspect drivers are abusing their transmission. You can't drag race them or tow heavy loads. You can't drift or race them. Normal driving and proper maintenance , they will last a long long time. Also,Nissan has redesigned the new CVT. So this is all old news.
The Reason your car Didn’t fail is because you change the fluids regularly and most people don’t. That’s why the mayor failure.
I worked selling cars in the mid 2010s. Had so many people trade in their Nissans because of faulty transmissions. The dealer I worked for didn't bother with selling used Nissan vehicles with CVTs. Those went straight to auction.
And this continues, which means it is so profitable that Nissan does not care about the loss of reputation and some customers.
@@trumpeldorfwhat current sources do you have about that?
@@marvin7533 Yes, there is a lot of such data, from the constantly unreliable CVT, which has already become a meme, to the constant investigations by the feds with engine problems, airbags... + consumer reports, where Nissan is the only Japanese brand that always sits much much lower than all other Japanese brands .
I’ve seen at least 3 older Nissan Rogues stranded due to trans failure. One in the middle of a busy intersection. They are 100% going to fail if you own one.
The biggest mystery is why does Nissan continue using this transmission. They have the new 9-speed AT which is lightyears better than their CVT yet they keep using it which is a risk.
My Frontier has the 9 speed. It's a Mercedes unit. Real nice.
I have 225000 miles on a 2008.Nissan Sentra with a CVT transmission and it's still running strong.
Nissan owns Jatco which is Japanese automatic transmission company.
Because it's one of the best transmissions on the market. The problem is the consumer not giving a shit.
@@scrambler69-xk3kv Didn't they divest JATCO years ago at this point?
I have a nissan altima and because of that transmission I will never buy a nother nissan product
Nissans are good, you just have to make sure you're not buying one with a renault engine or jatco cvt transmission
I have put on my 2017 maxima around 200k km (around 130k miles) and it was great no issues whatsoever ( I will usually change transmission oil before it due by 5k km or 10k km) the previous owner towed quad bikes and bikes ( in the Saudi Arabia heat). And still going strong.
@@Symantec-u1gthe Maxima is the only car model specifically excluded from this video, did you not watch it?
Good for you, but there’s a reason your MAXIMA has not been affected like the other models lol..
This is why I'm getting a 2024 5 speed manual versa and it may be the last year they make them or make them with a 5 speed MT.
I have a 2005 3.5 SE (convention tranny) I'll keep driving it till I can't anymore!
One big unanswered question is why was Nissan allowed to continue selling cars with CVT in the USA after the proven defects and high rate of failure. Any other company with a product so defective would have been forced to withdraw that product from the market.
It is criminal that Nissan is still selling cars today with CVT transmissions.
Not really Chrysler with the 9spd and even hinds had terrible transmissions in the accord and acura tl. They just fix them under warranty or the extend warranty up to 120k miles.
@@occckid123 It is a bloody shame when you consider that the engine and the transmission are solely made by the manufacturer. Just about every other part on the car can be had from the aftermarket parts bin..
It only exists thanks to the EPA and govt corruption aka fines/fees
Or Fords Dual-Clutch. The NHTSA investigation found internal documents that told the maintenance technicians in the dealerships to tell customer's that they had never heard of a Dual Clutch transmission failure. But they continued to sell them.
We have a 2014 Nissan rouge with a cvt and 170k miles if you actually change the every 30k they will outlast a normal transmission. There is way too much misinformation around the Nissan cvts.
Yes. The Prius eCVT does not use a belt but is a torque split device and very reliable. An actual early belt CVT in a car would be the DAF Daffodil.
Yeah toyotas eCVT shouldn't be classified with the belt CVTs. Totally different designs toyotas is actually reliable.
This system has proven to be the better design type .
Wow someone actually remembers the DAF. I had the misfortune to drive one, it was horrible and freaked me out for 50 yrs!
I have a 3rd gen Prius and I know all the common issues with these cars. The transmission never fails. I have seen zero people complain and I’m on all the maintenance forums. It’s always head gaskets, battery’s, ABS, and the available inverter at around 175k+ mileage.
@@mylesgray3470 my Lexus GS450H failed on its transmission which I was told was omly the second such fault in all of Europe. I felt so unlucky. It was a failure on MG2 resolver sensor and can affect the prius. Swapped in a used unit entire gearbox and no issues since.
The main problem it’s your “owners may not be maintaining their CVTs” point is that the official service schedule for all of these cars at no point has a fluid change for the CVTs, just “inspect the fluid”… on a transmission without a dipstick… you know these owners are having someone else do this stuff, so they hope the service provider actually does it AND recommends a fluid change when needed. Which is a $300+ job. Nissan brought it on themselves for normalizing the neglect of those transmissions.
Edit: Apparently I've been called out for "lying" or spreading misinformation. I'm not. The passage above hasn't been touched. I've had to lookup the service schedules and maintenance sections of manuals of multiple CVT equipped Nissan passenger vehicles, INCLUDING THE ONE I OWN and it looks like I'm correct.
In most situations, all that would be done is an inspection of the fluid, unless you are under certain driving conditions or the service dept. of the dealer you take the vehicle to recommends it (after the customer determines if the dealer isn't just trying to drum up business by recommending unnecessary maintenance, look it up, its a common practice). There is no simple, "Just change the fluid every x miles and do it more often if you beat the snot out of it." As a result, the service often doesn't get done and the transmission often fails.
No wonder. Mitsubishi recommends changing fluid (drain and fill?) every 30K miles. There is also a filter in the oil cooler housing that needs to be changed.
That's a lie. It says 60k miles is when the fluid needs to be changed in the owners manual for all Nissan models with the CVT.
@@trenton737Maybe that servicing period should be shorter.
Toyota Corolla CVT can go 200,000 miles without fluid change.
@@GF-mf7ml The video is referring to Jatco CVTs. The ones found in Nissans and some Chrysler products. Toyota's transmissions are usually built by Aison or in-house. They typically have a physical first gear as they found that the most wear on the belt comes when taking off from a stand still where the most torque can be placed on it, or are eCVTs, which is part of their Hybrid Synergy drivetrain and a whole different beast.
If people wanted to get a Corolla, they would have gotten a Corolla, but most likely couldn't afford it so they are in a Sentra/Altima and Nissan is known for having deeper discounts off MSRP and giving credit to far less qualifying buyers. If those people could afford a Toyota, they would already have one.
Is weird how many nissans are on the road, how many people keep buying Nissans, a Nissan could have been the perfect affordable car if it wasn't for this 30 year transmission problem.
Because they are cheap and decently built cars are expensive.
I mean people still buy them because engine are good there trucks and suv with 9speed are solid
If the CVT was complete junk there would be Nissans littering the ditches.
@MrFezco hit and miss ive had 3 nissan 2 were lemon lawed due to the cvts failure
Nissan Gtr
I'll never forget when my father, who is a mechanic, bought a 2017 Nissan SUV. I immediately told him that he really shouldn't have because of the CVT, but he tried to reassure me that they worked out all the problems. Well, you guessed it, 2023 and it was slipping BAD.
Mitsubishi uses them too [JATCO].I wonder how many folk realise that.
@@tolremMitsubishi is nothing more than rebadged Nissan
6 years is actually impressive for a Nissan CVT 😂
Ummm..... 6 years later???
@@jbelieve5050 Are you impressed it lasted that long?
Evidently many new car buyers failed to do their homework before buying a Nissan CVT. The JATCO CVT problems have been known for many years. I did my research when shopping for a new car in 2018 and bought a new Nissan with a manual transmission.
I haven’t had any issues with Nissan CVT , 5 vehicles and no issues and over 100,000 miles when sold
Still have a Nissan Rogue with 125,000 miles and a 2024 Sentra , would I recommend a Nissan?
Absolutely, have recommended to 3 friends who bought Sentra .
I do the drain and fill CVT fluid change every 35000 miles and change external filter at 100,000 miles, 0 issues so far .
@@reyperez3424 My 2016 Nissan Rogue CVT went out at 67,000 miles and I changed the fluid. Some years must have been better than others?
We have a 14 rouge with 170k miles zero issues. I'm a mechanic by trade and a cvt with outlast a normal transmission if you change the fluid
@@reyperez3424If those CVTs fail, you're out of a friend.
@scott8238 Your hilarious. CVT is not a good match for automotive application. They suck.and are way more expensive than an old fashioned Torque converter transmission.
Why the reference to the planetary transmission in the Toyota Prius? There is no comparison in design function or even purpose. As I understand it (I'm sure someone can explain it better), the Prius planetary gearset accepts varying inputs from multiple sources (motor and engine, in proportions determined by the computer at any given moment) and transmits the sum of those inputs to the final drive. It's not there to vary the gearing between engine and final drive like a Nissan CVT or any conventional transmission.
I think THS is completely different from other all transmission.
Totally agreed. I've always been annoyed when people confuse the eCVT (Toyota, Ford, Honda) with the dual-cone type CVT.
The biggest issue with dual-cone type CVT is that it depends on surface to surface friction to work. None of the eCVT transmissions do.
Yep, the one in the Prius is bombproof. People even tow with them and drive 200k miles on original fluid and they still don’t fail.
It seems like it is an AI generated video so don't bother with the accuracy of the video
A planetary gearset (a sun gear connected to three planetary gears connected to an outer ring gear) requires two power sources to produce one output. One is provided by the gas engine, the other by the electric motor. Both can work together or either can be locked out to allow the other to power the car.
1989 Subaru Justy was first CVT I can think of in the US. The CVT for Nissan has been a nightmare but I have to give them credit as they are usually the company to implement new technologies prior to everyone else.
I drove a Justy as a courtess car and it was horrible.
belt drive CVT is a very bad idea, doomed to fail.
I have heard more than one service tech say that Nissan is (in)famous for rushing concepts into production without thorough testing.
Sad thing is . Nissan along with Toyota were the 2 most reliable cars ever
Loved my 87 Cressida and my 17 Sentra, especially now that they replaced the transmission for free....
Nissan was the Toyota alternative, a cheaper alternative.
@@elmaster6207 that’s odd you know . After Datsun “came out the closet”🤣 as Nissan they kind of caught up with Toyotas line up with the Maxima , 300 ZX ,and Pathfinder.
Crying azz shame what has happened to them .
My dad was Certified mechanic for VW as well as Datsun back in the 70s . He loved those cars , but was out of the profession by the time they changed the label to Nissan .
Lord have mercy , you didn’t want to get in a discussion with him over the Z cars ! In his mind the 240 z was the best sports car ever !
I can still hear him say the 260, and 280 were inferior products .
No one believes that the 240s would out run the corvettes back then with the (smog pump) emissions bypassed , there was even a performance package that was offered with a crane cam offenhauser intake and a 400 Holley
@@ramie-uz9xi It was hard to decide between the Cressida (I had an 87) and them Maxima. Both were considered the "Lexus" of their day. Remember that automatic seat belt? People were so surprised when you gave the a ride and you knew it was going to...lol
@@floridaredneck wife had the 240SX . You don’t know how many times I went to get out and that shoulder belt wrapped around my head 🤣
My dad is a retired mechanic of 50 years. We saw a lot of Nissan CVT failures. We would get a new factory unit and install it for the customer only to have it go again in the next 1-2 years. These owners all kept up with their oil changes and we even added external oil coolers for some to see if we could stop the failures and they still continued to happen. They are just poorly designed.
It's not just the CVT fluid drain & refill maintenance. It's the internal filters that Nissan never recommended to me to have replaced!
Why would a company continue with a component that they themselves see as defective and is costing them tonnes of money and damaging their brand reputation? The sunk R&D expenditure on this component can't be enough by itself to warrent them being so resistant to change. Why do they want this component SO badly?
Riding lawnmowers use CVTs. People who claim to hate them don't actually hate them, it's just about application. CVTs are perfect for slow, low power vehicles that are driven by grannies. You can't give them hell. The Nissan CVT was a disaster, but they're not all bad. I wouldn't recommend pairing a CVT with anything above 4 cylinders or forced induction, it just doesn't work. Btw I got 30 mpg on the highway with a 5 speed manual with the same 3.5VQ- in a 2005 Nissan Altima SE. That thing had great power, I can't imagine putting a CVT behind it- it would burn that transmission alive. CVTs can't handle power, they're not meant to, they're meant to be efficient. Not everything is a race car nor can it be and that's ok. Everyone needs a grocery getter.
The work great in snow mobiles and motor scooters up to 500cc.
I just bought a cheap Nissan Versa from 2010 with 155k miles. It drives really nice. You know what it has for a transmission? A good old 4 speed automatic! I made sure to steer away from the CVT models. Now, my coworker bought a brand new Nissan Sentra a couple of years ago and he changed the CVT fluid after 30k miles. And his CVT is still working great. So the question is, if you change the CVT fluid on these things every 30k miles, will it last long term? He has 55k miles on his Sentra and he takes good care of it indeed. That helps a lot. The jury is still out though on the fluid changes every 30k on these CVTS 🤔. Nissan recently went back to standard automatics and got rid of the CVT on their newer Pathfinder and Infiniti QX60 indeed. At least they are starting to get it.
My 2008 versa with the cvt had 210k miles on in with no cvt issue and I only changed the fluid once. I test drive the 4spd and its a terrible transmission. You can get to the power much quicker with the cvt and it gets better mpg. 4spd had wayyy 2 much dead spots.
@@occckid123 I drove a Versa (rented one) that only had like 5k miles? And that CVT felt HORRIBLE. So I don't know if that car was already abused? Not sure. I'm glad to know that you didn't have any CVT issues. Maybe it's the way people drive their cars today. Full pedal to the metal and no maintenance 😅
@@joseCalderon1976 what year was the versa?
@joseCalderon1976 I mean I doubt it. You bang drive the cvt the way you drive a 4spd auto. You should always know what your transmission is going to do and how your throttle inputs reacts to affecting torque converter lockup or release and you learn how to ride the torque or just let it sit at redkine for max power and that's where the cvt was better than the 4spd. The 4spd wastes fuel my only locking the converter around 40mph. The cvt can lock the torque converter at around 12 mph or so. Letting the torque drive the car and not feeling loose. It's all in how you drive it. People drive with an on and off foot and the cvt doesn't like that.
My 2015 Sentra SV has 190,000 miles on the original CVT, it works perfectly, regular transmission fluid and filter changes, and not driving it hard nor hot are probably why. Not hard to service the CVT, you can do it yourself in about 1 hour if you're handy with a ratchet
I owned a 2013 Nissan Altima with one of those garage Jatco CVT and had to get the transmission replaced in the first 5k miles of owning the vehicle so maintenances was definitely not the issue. Brought the car brand new off the lot and drove it for 2 months in normal mixed driving with mostly highway and some city driving and by 5k miles I had issues with the transmission stuttering and a weird metallic grinding noise developed. Took it to the dealership and they said there was an issue and had to replace the transmission, thankfully under warranty but clearly not a good sign. I will admit that the replacement transmission did held out for 150k miles when I sold the car but god forbid if anyone had issues just right after the warranty period
I just bought a 3.5 2010 altima with 71k miles last friday, praying it lasts me until I at least pay it off (2 years max).... It drives very smooth though and no noises. I heard the 3.5 cvt's are stronger
My Mitsubishi Lancer ES uses the same transmission. Funny thing is, Mitsubishi transmissions last longer. However, Nissan uses different fluid compaired to Mitsubishi. Coincidence?
Yup I had a 2013 GT I bought brand new only changed the Fluid one time at 99k I sold it at 225k never had a issue with the CVT tranmission
I have a 2011 Mitsubishi Outlander with CVT. I changed the transmission oil around 140k with Amsoil cvt oil , replace tranny filter and cooler line filter. It’s running strong with 146K
@@rafaelbetancourt3551 I wish nissan would use whoever was making the tranmissions for Mitsubishi
@@matthewreed1078 Funny thing mitsubishis cvt are the same Jatco units as nissans... The thing is mitsubishi payed more atention to the engineering of them and added transmittion coolers and diferent cvt oil, I dont even understand how Nissan has outsold mitsubishi with inferior investments on their cars "important" parts
Yep.. i think mitsubishi's cvt coolers are slightly larger,,,,
I work at a Nissan dealership and I can say from what I've seen, do not buy a new Sentra or Rogue. Some cars even with the CVT go higher than 200k miles (ofc I don't know how many transmissions they've had replaced to get there.) However, the 2021-2024 Sentras in particular are so unreliable that they're basically money cows to the service department. We've also had a 2024 Rogue with less than 200 miles that had to have the engine replaced because it had seized.
What usually fails on the 2021+ Sentras?
Nissan says for 2024 sentra they updated the transmission.
Im actually considering a 24 sentra sr. What kind of problems are you seeing?
I recall about 10 years ago the Sentra transmission had no cooler and was prone to overheating while all the other Nissans actually had a cooler installed. I’m guessing that’s still the case. Need to be gentile on freeway speed hill climbs in the summer or it will go into limp mode and do major damage.
Also was a Nissan for a little while for co-op, and a CVT blew up at like 70km(they didn't put transmission fluid in it from factory)
Got my 2004 sentra for 4k and it went over 150 k miles and 10 years with no major repairs until it was traded in. Too bad the quality suffers. I'd get a new version of this old car in a heart beat of it existed.
The main problem is, alot of people dont keep up with maintenance on their vehicle. Since cvt's are different than traditional automatic transmission, you still got to drive them differently. I got a 2009 Nissan Murano SL & haven't had no problem, because i stay ontop of maintenance of my vehicle. I bought the car used & the first thing i did, was change all the main fluid in the car, within a week & that helped me, cause its on my schedule. I know people that sold cars & told people they just changed plugs & fluids, but in reality, they havent done maintenance in years.
In reality, it’s luck of the draw fam. I’m on my 2nd CVT in 3 years. Baby em, maintain em, don’t matter. New CVT is just gettin to 60k miles and I’m already gettin P1778, same code I was gettin on the last one. Changed the fluid twice so far and I don’t drive her hard at all.
It’s a shyt tranny fam. Only good thing that’s come out of it is it makes me take a lot more initiative as far as maintaining and repairing my own shyt lol
Also the V6 nissans have a beefier cvt so they are a bit more durable and forgiving.
I agree with you, people can’t maintain their vehicles, CVT transmission has to be driven gently. My father just bought 2024 Nissan Sentra, he stomped on it from 40 to 60 and I was in the backseat and just laughed silently because I don’t do that with my 2020 Corolla. I felt like telling him that the transmission is not meant for hard acceleration lol
Nissan is replacing the CVT in my 17 Pathfinder with a remanufactured CVT direct from the factory. Question is has Nissan made improvements to the original design to alleviate future issues or is it the same faulty CVT transmission they used when the vehicle was made?
A factory reman is from an already failed cvt... it might get a new belt and was cleaned up... possible a pully or something was replaced but that's what they are. If you plan in keeping it drain and replace fluid every year... and replace filters and fluid every 30k or so... it's not as bad as it sounds but do strict maintenance from now on.. don't rag (high rpm) on it
Nissans new CVT-X is all new and should be fairly bulletproof. It’s now a dual pump design with 30% less friction. I’d prefer a traditional automatic myself but Nissan has completely redone their CVTs.
For the sake of the customers, I hope they are more reliable. I have nostalgia for the old Nissan, but hopefully this a step in the right direction for the company.
It will take years and people putting on a lot of miles to really see if they are that much better. Now they have a 3 cylinder variable compression motor with a turbo to go with the CVT, sounds like more problems to me.
Lol I'm sure they'll be the same garbage just like VW
@@TheCaptjamestkirkYeah, and Rube Goldberg is shaking his head, saying " Those silly, ovecomplicated and ridiculous machines in my newspaper comics were meant to be jokes, not instruction manuals!"
And they still fail
1:50 that isn't even a Nissan, that's a jeep being towed on GTOgers channel
Yep, that’s a Jeep Compass.
Same transmission goofy
Honestly, this video has terrible editing. Half the images on screen don't have anything to do with what is being said. The information is good. The visuals aren't. This would be better to just listen to.
I’ve worked at a rental car company for ten years and never not once did I ever see a cvt from any manufacturer fail. During covid some had over 150,000kms on them cause we can’t get new cars and they still were fine. Nissan included
The CVTs work fine for the first 60-75k miles. After that’s when they often fail if the fluid isn’t changed.
@@mylesgray3470 They fail when people burn up the fluid. You can drive them 1,000 miles in 100 degree heat and burn up the fluid and the CVT will be toast in 2,000 miles. Like the parent comment said, Nissan recommends fluid "inspections". Fluid can last 80k in these cars if babied. Another thing to note is that it's hard to identify if the fluid is toast. Using the dipstick and paper towel does not provide enough indication if the fluid is junk. You have to drain ~100 mL into a white cup to see if there is a tinge of black to it. Sounds like Jakechappell9241 lives somewhere where it's relatively flat. Hills + heat + roadtrip = dead CVT. It's all about your judgement if you think you drove it in hard enough conditions to warrant a fluid inspection.
@@garneroutlaw1 That makes a lot of sense. The Senta doesn’t have a trans cooler, making the transition overheat even more likely when climbing hills at high speed on a hot day.
I got a very low milage 2017 Nissan Sentra in 2020 for a bargain. However since I was a student and there was the pandemic I barely put any mileage on the car. After 2.5 years I took my car to Nissan service and (Had maybe 18k miles) they told me that apparently my Sentra's transmission software had a bug that made it so it did not report any codes. They told me they had to update the software and they would check it at my next service appointment. Next appointment (22k miles) comes around and I noticed the service appointment was taking an extra long time. The agent comes out to me and says my transmission has a serious code reported on it and the car can't be driven until it's fixed. Thanks to the lawsuits, they were required to extend my warranty on the transmission when they did my software update so I got a free rebuilt transmission and got to drive a nice new Nissan Rogue for a week.
However, it's scary to think now if I had a driving heavy job (like I do now) or had to drive a lot to school there was the possibility my transmission could have just failed on me... I hope Nissan does better in the future.
Nissan + CVT = 🙅🏽♂️🙅🏽♂️🙅🏽♂️ Should’ve stayed with the transitional automatic or start putting manuals back in cars.
I have a 2017 Nissan Sentra with a CVT and it is at 126,000 miles on the original CVT. Bought it new with 25 miles on it. No issues with it in the 7 years I've owned it.
I have a 2011 Sentra with 129K miles. No problems at all. Original CVT still working.
there's always one....
If the fluids been changed at least once, no surprise. If it’s original trans fluid, I’m very surprised.. and you would be on borrowed time at that mileage.
2008 altima. Fluid has never been changed. Car just hit 300k miles. Transmission just went out.
Did they fix the issues after 2020+? I'm looking at a 2021-2023 Murano
😔 my friend's Sentra's CVT just died and now she's a car-less mother of two. It tends to affect the most vulnerable people who are least able to absorb the financial hit.. 😠
That’s why Nissan Altima/Versa/Sentra tends to do financing to low income/low credit. They’re trying to push their cars onto unsuspecting people.
I worked for Nissan in the 2010s and once had a CVT fail on me on the way to put gas in a PDI car. For those that don't know that's when you put gas in a brand new car for the first time. This car had 13 miles on it and the CVT failed. Nissan sent reps out and they suggested it was the computer but after replacing everything but the transmission we ended up replacing the transmission. I still wonder to this day how that car fared after being sold brand new with an already replaced transmission.
I’ve got a 2022 Altima that’s doing all the signs of cvt failure… massive delay in accelerating from a stop, crazy vibrations at low speed acceleration ever since about 40k miles. The good thing about it is that the local dealership can’t/won’t do anything about it until a check engine light comes on! Hopefully I’ll get rear ended at a light and it’ll total this piece of junk so I can get the Honda I wanted in the first place
Maybe a deer will do you a favor and step out in front of you. Drive at night when they are out running around.
Why did you buy the Nissan?
Has the reliability improved in recent years? I’ve be curious to see any data that exists.
They're not quite as fragile as they used to be but still have a long way to go before being called reliable. They're extremely sensitive to the fluid, so getting it changed every 30k miles or 3 years, minimum, will prolong the life of any push-belt CVT.
@@Grafyte sad to hear. I just bought a new car and I really wanted to consider Nissan, but I just don’t trust their CVTs. Hondas and Toyotas seem to hold up just fine at least.
@@michaelw6277the only CVT I dare to buy is Toyota Corolla CVT, because many people drive it 200k miles without fluid change. I saw Honda CVT have failure after high mileage.
I’m just grateful my 3rd gen Altima doesn’t have a CVT. 501k miles later she’s still hanging on to dear life 😀
Original owner with original motor and 4 speed auto
Have 460k on my cvt altima
@@occckid123it is so strange how some of these last a long time and others fail very early.
@@christopherhamilton5557it's the owners mostly kids that doesn't maintain and driving their cvt like race cars,my 14 sentra has 200k and still runs like new.i have a friend who owned the same car broke his cvt at 14k miles.when we pick it up and saw how he drives i already know why,he effin floors it everytime as if it's a conv. AT 😂
@@christopherhamilton5557 could just be the manufacturing process or materials used. I find it very odd also. They tell the suppliers to cut cost. Well then...
@@occckid123 yeah I was also thinking variations in manufacturing
I brought a Mitsubishi outlander Sport AWD 2017 in 2022. It had 71K on it. I have 101k on it now. Does Mitsubishi tweak their JATCO transmission?
I have a 16 Altima with 93,000 miles on it. Love the car. Maybe I’m special
My parents had a 14 Altima and the put 235k miles on it before it was totaled in a wreck. Trans was still kicking. Mostly 60mph highway miles, rather than freeway or city miles. They were good about fluid changes but usually a little past what the book said. They replaced the car with an identical one.
I once almost bought a Pathfinder style and price were ok but I felt that transmission and could not trust it. I returned it after 7 days of owning!
Two issues with the CVT:
1: it’s a soulless transmission.
2: automatic and manual transmissions are still significantly better than
Cars with CVTs vary gearbox ratios at a fixed engine RPM to accelerate; others use the motor to accelerate at a fixed gear ratio. I think motors do a better job of accelerating.
I have a friend who bought a Nissan Altima brand new back in 2011 and as far as I know he didn’t have any problem with the CVT. He still uses it as a secondary car now. I also had a conversation with a Nissan salesman regarding the cvt issue and he told me that most failures happened from a fault in the temperature sensor of the transmission back in 2008 to 2013 and that issue was resolved after that. What I deducted was.
1- Changing the transmission fluid alongside both the filter and the pan prematurely goes a long way.
2- installing an additional transmission cooler in hot climates is preferred.
I bought a new 2007 Nissan Sentra with the cvt transmission. Nissan offered cvt or 6 speed manual only. I went thru 3 transmissions before the car hit 50,000 miles. After the third transmission Nissan said they wouldn’t replace another one. I will never buy another Nissan, they are still crap, the transmission is still crap. I would think they would have fixed the darn thing.
Think maybe a lot of it is you driving style? You cannot hammer on them they will not take. How you drive your car has a lot to do with how it holds up.
I get 300k miles out of my Nissan Jatco transmissions. I change the fluid and 1:53 every 25k religiously along with both filters. Sometimes even the Nissan shops don’t change the cartridge cooler filter which will lead to death. And I only use genuine Nissan fluid. I’ve seen aftermarket fluid destroy these CVTs the new Toyota CVT’s are almost bulletproof if you changes the fluid regularly.
But other trannies require zero maintenance for the life of the vehicle.
Transmission maintenance?!? I bought a 2013 Altima, new off of the showroom floor and one of the points the salesman stressed was that the transmission would never need servicing, that the transmission fluid was a lifetime fluid never to be changed. Not knowing any better in those days I believed him and thought this feature was pretty nice. Then in less than 2000 miles the entire engine had to be replaced along with a new fuel pump because they were assembled with defects. Then after 4 broken engine mounts in less than 8 months (I drive very conservatively... ask my wife) I got soured on Nissan and how the service manager continually lied to me about why the car was shaking (from the bad motor mounts). I got rid of the Altima and I will never spend my money on another Nissan product again.
The mounts weren't under warranty???
@@occckid123 the dealership replaced the motor mounts the first two times under warranty, when the engine started to shake again. Took it in again, their mechanic inspected the car (so they said), and the service manager said nothing was found wrong with the car, he assured me the vibration was normal. I got pissed because I knew he was lying to me, I then asked him (paraphrasing), "so when I bought the car it was NOT normal for it to run without any vibration?" He refused to answer the question and walked away. That was the last time I set foot onto their dealership. I went to an independent mechanic (who verified that it was indeed bad motor mounts) and he fixed the problem. I wrote a letter to Nissan corporate about my experience, never heard back from them.
@@BusterKitten I would've taken it to a different dealership and let them warranty the work.
@@occckid123 probably right but I was so soured on the Nissan brand by that time I just wanted to get rid of the car. Been driving Subarus since and 100% satisfied with them and the dealership. We've now got seven of them between us, kids and grandkids. Waiting for the 2025-26(?) Forester Wilderness for my next Subaru.
@@BusterKitten subaru is pretty ok just watch out for oil consumption issues. Don't let the oil get low and you have to watch oit for the cvt. The cvt is serviceable and needs the fluid changed contrary to what they've said. My coworker just replaced his cvt in his crosstrek..
As someone who has a 2014 Nissan Sentra with the CVT, and knowing about many of them failing, its a bit scary driving it, knowing it could fail. I try not to hard accelerate in it and got the fluid changed at 50k miles to make sure it stays healthy. I heard that sometimes metal flakes could get in the oil pump and decrease transmission fluid pressure in the system, causing premature wear. Idk how true that is. Pretty sad state Nissan is in, hope they can improve and make good cars again!
2014 is getting up there, at this point I wouldn't stress about it. Drive it, keep the fluids changed, and put away a little each month for a replacement car. If it does die, just dump it for something else.
The maintenance recommended in any car's service manual is only enough to get the vehicle to the end of its warranty. However, belt-driven CVT transmissions require a lot more maintenance if the owner intends to keep the car after it's out of warranty.
You probably need to change the fluid and filter every 20,000 miles. I think that's what the CarWizard on TH-cam recommends, and he owns a Nissan Cube.
Amsoil fluid and a external cooler
Also an external paper filter for the transmission. It has to be changed every 20k to 30k miles
I bought a new 2007 Nissan Sentra with the cvt. I went through three transmissions before my car hit 50,000 miles. Nissan said they wouldn’t cover the next trans failure. I sold it immediately and will not buy another Nissan.
I had a 2013 Sentra with a CVT failure at 160K miles in 2023. I got a new CVT for $3,500 at the dealer. The car is in showroom condition. I hope to get another 160K out of it.
You will if you don't drive it on long road trips through the hills or in very hot weather. Learn how to inspect the fluid. Drain ~100 ml into a white cup. Any tinge of black warrants a fluid change. Know this fluid can last 1,000 miles or 100,000 miles. It's susceptible to overheating. It's all determinate on how you drive and how hard of conditions the car has been put through. Drive through the Ozarks in your Nissan? That warrants an immediate fluid inspection and/or change. Drive 10 miles in easy conditions commuting to work @ 55mph for a year? I wouldn't even bother inspecting until 60,000 miles. Light brown is okay. Tiny tinge of black is no good. Dipstick and paper towel DO NOT provide a good enough indicator.
I have a '16 Maxima that I bought new. It now has 159,000 miles on its original CVT. I changed the fluid @60K, 118K and 150K miles (with that last one also having the filter and strainer replaced). I feel like this car can go on forever (so far).
CHEAP CHEAP CHEAP!!! It doesn’t make any sense!!! After all these years you’d think Nissan’s transmissions would be better than they actually are. I see why Honda and Toyota are outselling them every single day!!!
I have a 2017 maxima platinum with 151,000 miles and no issues....why dont Nissan use the same cvt in the rest as they do the maxima? Makes since to me.
Currently the majority of Japanese automakers are using cvts and all these transmissions last nearly 100,000km. This is not only an issue with nissan.
People are just not maintaining their vehicles and not draining and refilling CVT transmission fluid at recommended intervals is what’s getting most people caught.
@@alvinsimba734 I'm glad I have 3 vehicles. It allows me to shelve my Nissan if I drive it in harsh conditions until I have time to do a fluid inspection and/or change. Inspecting the fluid is absolutely vital in all Nissan CVTs. Driving in any tough conditions in temperatures over 90 degrees warrants an immediate fluid inspection which entails draining ~100 ml of fluid into a white cup. Dipstick and paper towel do not provide a good enough indication on if your fluid has been burned up. If the fluid has ANY tinge of black to it, it's burnt. This is why you hear people driving 15k miles and having a CVT failure or at 80k. It's not dependent on the maintenance interval - because there is no interval. If you are sticking to a fixed interval of something like 60k, your CVT will be toast before you know it. Inspect, inspect, inspect. Don't put in knockoff CVT fluid, only OEM Nissan NS-2 or NS-3. If you listen to me, your Nissan will last 300k+.
@@garneroutlaw1 I appreciate your info there. My father has a 2024 Nissan Sentra and I have a 2020 Corolla LE and both of them have CVTs but I prefer my Toyota for driving over the Nissan and I also love the seats in the Nissan but yes the maintenance for me it’s every 8000km and when I checked for my cvt drain and fill it’s at 96000km but my fathers might be earlier than that so we will see how it does.
"nearly 60k miles". This is an achievement now???
I bought a 2007 Altima with a manual for $3000. Almost has 180k miles and according to the guy I bought it from, it is all original. Runs great too.
The only real issue it has is that oil is disappearing slowly (still trying to find out why, but there is no sign of burning or leaking). It just isn't the prettiest.
Everyone complaining about CVT, get a Manual
No, we will get standard geared automatics.
I came from a 6-speed Elantra and got a Corolla with the CVT. Almost as reliable as a regular automatic. I’ll admit, I get a lil bit sad remembering my Elantra and all the fun I had, but the CVT Corolla will probably outlive it.
Manual transmissions are not all that available here in the States.
@@travishoel3755They're starting to go extinct in Europe as well, as far as new cars go.
@@travishoel3755Doesn't really matter. There's still some decent stuff that is available.
As someone who has loved Nissan's since they were Datsun's, the CVT fiasco damn near broke me. I bought a Frontier specifically to avoid a CVT. I love my truck, I think Nissan makes a great looking Coupe, Sedan...I guess SUV, but those damned CVT's.
I work at honda. They really don't complain. You could come in first time doing a cvt service at 130k. It will be okay.
Newer Honda regular auto trans have issues quickly with lack of maintenance. We replace these all the time but I never really see a cvt trans being replaced.
bulllllllsht. cough honda v6 autos.
My Honda has 170k miles and the cvt still runs like new
There's a Honda dealership next door where I work at and sometimes I can't tell if it's transmissions or engines getting replaced, I'm betting it's the 1.5T engines.
Mu honda CRV 2015 has 120,000 KM and CVT works perfect.
I have owned a 2004 Nissan X Trail ST 4x4 for the last 10 years. It has only 170,000 Km, and has been regularly serviced since new. Still drives and feels almost new, with the 2.5 ltr petrol engine.
The Nissan, and its reliability has impressed me. Naturally, the Automatic Gearbox on our Nissan is REAL!! I was about to go out and purchase a 2 - year old Nissan X Trail, until I checked and discovered that the "modern" version of the X Trail was fitted with a CVT Unit. I ask this question: Why re-invent the Wheel?? CVTs have been around (at a guess) the 1950s. I have also worked in Industry with CVT Units, that operate on the Cone Principal. I have seen them get so hot, that you can very easily fry an egg on them!! If the CVT in the Nissan is getting hot, then the laws of Thermodynamics tell me that this is energy (which should be driving the wheels) - is lost - as heat. Sorry, but now it will be a purchase of some alternative Japanese SUV - that is still manufactured with a real, conventional Automatic Gearbox
Why are many old Nissans with cvt working perfectly ? Some of them taxis , no complains .
Because not every single car is affected. You gotta look at it as a "failure rate", the rate of failure is higher than other transmissions. Let's say instead of 1% of cars being prematurely plagued with transmission issues it's 20%
The issue is you couldn’t get the CVT’s serviced, Jeep in particular told you it was lifetime fluid. Transmission shops also didn’t like touching cvts unless they needed to be replaced
A case study on how to make such and bad transmission and yet keep in the market for 25+ years. An applaud to Nissan, that takes some skill to pull off...
I thinks its a case of the transmission that is weak and not designed for abuse. The reason that many continue to be sold is because partly many people refuse to belive the transmission is problematic and partly because some people baby their car and get some high mileage without issue. Finally there are some people who do zero maintenance and still expect car to work fine. For example you need to change fluids like transmission fluid every so often.
It's not weak. It's the best transmission on the market. Problem is people like you believe there is a set maintenance interval on the CVT fluid. You are wrong and so many mechanics out there are dead WRONG. The maintenance interval is to change the fluid whenever your CVT fails a fluid inspection. That could be at 1,000 miles or 100,000 miles. If you drive your car through prolonged tough conditions in the heat, it warrants an immediate inspection and/or change. The fluid does not like heat. Inspecting entails draining ~100 mL of fluid into a white cup and seeing if there's ANY tinge of black in the fluid. Light brown is okay. I would recommend inspecting every 3rd oil change if you are babying it. Only use NS-2 Nissan fluid. DO NOT SKIMP and buy Valvoline or some 3rd party fluid.
My brother has been leasing and driving NISSANs with the CVTs for 25 years-never had a problem. He always had the transmission fluid changed using NISSAN fluid and drove conservatively
Saw a bunch of pics across the internet where nissan service bays are stacked of crates of cvt
Yes, these transmissions are definitely junk. My daughters 2020 Nissan Versa's failed at 82k miles. When I asked the service department if the fluid change was part of the maintenance schedule and they said no, but customers do have it done. This company needs to add fluid changes like Honda and other manufacturers do. Otherwise, don't buy cars with a CVT.
Even with regular maintenance I learned the that nissians CVTs eventually wear out. MINE was serviced every 12 to 30k miles. The continuous running metal belt rubbing and rubbing. Some people get lucky and go forever but alot don't. Their will be alot more lawsuits comming.
How many miles and which engine do you have?
@@needtau4138exactly. I call BS on his servicing. it would be fine if it was actually serviced
Mine started falling at 104k miles. Replaced the stepper motor and fluid with filter but it seemed to work then again and again the same p17778 codes. I think possibly the tourque converter went out on it but a nissian technition told me to replace the transmission. I was so stressed out and was able to just get rid of it after I hit 112k miles. It was a big costly mistake having it. Nissian maxima 2014, v6 engine
Absolutely amazing and quality content! Keep it up!
Any chance there’s enough info for a video about Hyundai’s (and Kia’s?) many engine issues?
The oil in a CVT should be changed every 10,000 miles. The factory says it's "lifetime" fluid or has a very long drain interval. They create a lot of heat which burns the lubricating oil up pretty fast. So... they should have a bigger trans oil cooler and a short trans oil drain interval. Learn to do the drain and fill by yourself at home to save money.
When my son was looking for a used replacement car, I am glad I steered him away the Nissan CVTs. He bought a toyota prius.
I was a Nissan tech for over 15 years, replaced well over 200 cvt transmissions, all under warranty time, complete crap
I've owned a couple Nissans. A 2012 Altima Coupe SR and a 2018 Sentra Nismo. Both had a CVT. I just changed the fluid and filter every 20k miles. Both lasted over 200k miles without zero issues. Finally sold them and sticking with geared automatic Toyotas only.
“Hundreds” of failures out of how many millions sold?
What about the new Nissan Rogue new generation (2022 and up)? Do they have issues with the CVT?
Don't buy any jatco cvt
I just watched a video on another finance channel where a struggling single mom phoned in. She had to replace her Nissan’s transmission 3 times, $4k each time, in a short amount of time. Devastating for her finances. She is part of the class action lawsuit.
I had a 2011 Murano from 2018 to 2024. The biggest issue I had with it was the noise from the manifold exhaust pipe. Some friends liked it because it sounded like a V8 LOL. Never had an issue with the CVT. It might have been I gave it maintenance, and that I never accelerated like many maniacs do. My habits from learning manual shift might have helped well too
I bought a new Nissan in 2021 I new about the cvt transmission so keep up with maintenance had transmission flushed and filters replaced and everything works great y have to do maintenance it a very good car took it on a road trip from Michigan to Florida get around 38 to 40 miles to the gallon
I would think at 32 years people would start a class action lawsuit against them. That would force them to make it better
CVT longevity seems to depend on at least 4 factors, your CVT make and year, how quickly you accelerate or whether you tow anything, how much you drive in extreme heat or cold, and how often you change the CVT trans fluid and the 2 filters (maintenance interval). MY 2015 Sentra has 190,000 miles on the CVT and has never had any problems. I recently dropped the pan, inspected thr fluid, and changed both filters, the belt and spool showed minimal wear.
I've had 5 Altimas from 2010 to 2024. A 2013 I had blew the transmission at 2900 miles (yes less than 3000 miles). When I've taken the cars in to have their "transmission flush", they not only don't change the filters but one dealership said they had never seen the filters changed. Looks like on the 2024, I'm going to be doing my own fluid changes so the filters actually get changed. When I wrote Nissan about how often the filters should be changed, they said I'd need to contact the dealer. Talk about a Catch-22!!! I find the Altima a great car and have had virtually NO problems with them other than the 2013 transmission. I DO trade them in before the warranty is up though. After owning 5 Toyotas and 1 Honda, I still like the general quality of the Altima the best. The 2007 Camry and 2009 Accord I had were two of the biggest pieces of junk I've ever owned. Disappointing after owning a Corolla, a Celica, a Supra, and an ES300.
I recall several older Nissans (pre 2003) having transmission failures pretty frequently. I also remember this for the first gen Ford Taurus! What’s the deal with those?
I am willing to bet that at the core of these transmission issues are cost cutting measures on materials and designs.
Mostly using cheaper materials.
Does Nissan use Japco CVT transmission?
Yes
I am picking up my family's 5th Nissan this week. We have been driving Nissans exclusively since 2019 and have never had any issues, large or small, with them. However, I only lease them and would not consider owning a Nissan long-term due to their track record. If I did ever purchase one for the long-term, I would definitely change the transmission oil at 40 to 50,000 km and avoid aggressive acceleration!
Lol why though
Driving Nissans since 2019, like that's a long time 😂😂😂😂
5 Nissans in a span of 5 years? lol no wonder
Question: At the end of the video, it shows a guy accelerating in what appears to be a Nissan Altima and then "stalling". Why do the reverse lights come on just before or immediately when the car stops going forward??? Is this also an issue with the CVT that it can involuntarily change the type of gear??? Or did this person purposely muck it up to make it look bad???
What's so different about the Maxima CVT?
Why does the thumbnail say 97% failure rate and the video doesn't mention that at all?
clickbait
So what stopped Nissan from using their normal automatic transmission or hoping on Toyota’s CVT which is quite better than theirs
My little sister had 3 transmissions replacement in her nissan versa under warranty...
I must be lucky. My 2015 Rogue has 140,000 miles with no issues with the transmission. Head gasket went first.
I had purchased a used 2017 Nissan Sentra three years ago and was told it was a rental by a Nissan dealer in Phoenix Az. I wasn’t informed that the transmission needed extra attention in servicing. It recently started to have acceleration problems with the air conditioning on. Took to a Nissan dealer in Flagstaff Az and was told that it needed a new transmission at a cost of $8K. They didn’t mention anything about the the class action lawsuits. So, not only Nissan and their dealerships are keeping quiet about theproblems with CVT’s. I don’t have the money for a replacement and most of those lawsuits listed on the internet are closed.
Use brake-hold to prevent backslide takeoffs
Stop completely before shifting between RD
Change ATF & filter every 2-3 years
Just past 200,000 miles on my 16 versa cvt.. Still going
I have a 2018 AWD Rogue with the QR25DE and I'm on a mission to find a manual transmission that can bolt in between the engine and the rear diff.
I'm a huge Nissan fan but this transmission is what pushed me away from the brand. I will NEVER own another CVT powered car.
Same here. 2016 Rogue, and tonight my CVT experienced its final moments. Fuck this shit.
I often think how the last generation Maxima COULD have been if it wasn't for the CVT.
I have a 2014 sentra with almost 120000 miles. Kept up with maintenance of the CVT, but just very recently it started to shudder and vibrate. Took it in the past week, and they ruled out that it’s not the transmission or the mounts, but a stupid engine cover that is loose. It made me wonder, however, how can a piece of plastic make a car shudder? Will be getting the part soon, and will see if it changes anything. Gave the car some fuel system cleaner also. I hope this helps. Because if it still doesn’t help, that means it’s the stupid transmission, and it’s time for me to let it go and sell the car. I don’t have $4000 plus in my bank account for a new CVT.
I had a CVT go out on a 2013 Sentra in 2023 at 160,000 miles. I was a loyal customer, so they gave me a new Nissan transmission for $3,500.
My 2016 Altima's CVT failed at 49,500. A $6100 replacement from Nissan failed after 200 miles. Back in the shop.
The Prius doesn't have CVT. If it did, Prius transmission failure would be a thing. But it isnt. It has a motor / generator, and a gear reduction unit. No belt. No drive / driven pulleys.
I bought my Nissan Altima brand new in 2015 and kept up with the maintenance change the transmission fluid at 60,000 miles and now I’m gonna change it every 25,000 miles. Another thing that could be killing. It is how people drive their cars. The CVT isn’t meant to be a get up and go like a normal transmission(in my opinion) so if you’re riding rough, it can and will probably slip on you.
Bought my mom a Nissan Versa. Transmission failed at exactly 50K miles