Tweek Talks about LumiRank 2023 | Episode 137

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    00:00 Intro & topics for the episode
    00:43 Support the Patreon!
    01:50 Patreon bonus episode topic
    04:10 What everyone is up to
    04:39 Tweek's metafy is back up
    06:06 The video game grind
    07:06 How Pink is doing
    09:04 Pink hitting masters in TFT
    10:36 Charles prepping for his move
    12:04 The LumiRank so far
    14:56 Predicting Tweek's rank
    18:53 Being consistent for a whole year is near impossible
    22:05 #100-91
    26:14 #90-81
    29:21 #80-71
    32:11 Preview of next week's episode topic
    32:56 #70-61
    36:08 #60-51
    39:10 #50-41
    43:10 #40-31
    48:30 Predicting the 30 players left
    49:14 Tweek's Banjo & Kazooie
    1:05:28 Outro
    #SmashBros #TweekTalks #Ultimate

ความคิดเห็น • 114

  • @MasterAbeer101
    @MasterAbeer101 ปีที่แล้ว +122

    Honestly even if some may not agree with every single ranking I gotta give huge props to Luminosity for taking such a huge investment into the Smash Scene. Very much appreciated from them 👏

    • @Amaling
      @Amaling ปีที่แล้ว

      I wouldn’t be so naive, they in practice filled a vacuum. In a few years they’ll probably leave but ehh this might sound like the more cynical end

    • @Scumxixxx
      @Scumxixxx ปีที่แล้ว

      Peeps should be begging on they hands and knees cause without them we would be so far under in terms of funds it would be comical

    • @tearzofthefallen6586
      @tearzofthefallen6586 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Someone was gonna do it. After Panda, the opportunity existed, it was just risky given the history of the scene. But its still a worthwhile venture since there are so little competitors. They essentially are have a 70% stake in the Smash Scenes proverbial 'stock'.

  • @armakeen3576
    @armakeen3576 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    Shoutout to Ron from work who likes to play casual games ✊

  • @Shellbastian
    @Shellbastian ปีที่แล้ว +6

    “He got some 17th’s idk” lmao Marcus is hilarious, great podcast guys!

  • @MerryBlind
    @MerryBlind ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Banjo AND Kazooie are definitely Tweek characters. Makes perfect sense for him to try picking them up seriously.

  • @camro14
    @camro14 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Toriguri is already beating top players in Japan plus the worldwide invaders with Banjo. The Banjo meta took so long to develop because people wrote him off within weeks of release. It takes years to understand a new character’s meta, especially one as technical as Banjo. I can’t wait to see what Tweek is able to show us with the character.

  • @hannes8978
    @hannes8978 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    Tweek is def top 10 lol

    • @hannes8978
      @hannes8978 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@SolrMM he is my goat

  • @thephantomkeith2656
    @thephantomkeith2656 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I decided to subscribe to the Patreon because the topic seemed interesting. I'm so glad I did. Everyone, you have to listen to the bonus content. It's changed my perspective of things...as a fan who goes 1-2 at the 1-2 tourneys a year I compete in. It was very interesting and worth the 6 bucks. Gave me a new appreciation for the art of Smash, and I would love more content that does deep dives into the value of certain setups/situations.

  • @DrWavy-fq2qk
    @DrWavy-fq2qk ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Was lookin at the 40-31 list and the closer i got to 33 i swear to god i started hearing boss music anticipating Marss to appear…

    • @Ethan-sc7of
      @Ethan-sc7of ปีที่แล้ว +1

      24th! Goated content creator

    • @spenceralger8771
      @spenceralger8771 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MotivatedStudent2000what

    • @mukinabahtx338
      @mukinabahtx338 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MotivatedStudent2000let’s be honest: you’re weird

  • @inspektorblacket2356
    @inspektorblacket2356 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Honestly Tweek playing Banjo and Kazooie lately reminds when he randomly brought DK to a stacked MSM tournament back in Smash4. He won that tournament btw

  • @willycheez7218
    @willycheez7218 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    As someone who plays Banjo often myself, he's weirdly solo mainable. Still bad and has many bad MUs but he has no super super bad MUs unlike most bad characters, everything is doable. It's mainly cos grenade egg is just insane against most characters

  • @ryan_raus
    @ryan_raus ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Jagaimo was my tag for the longest time until I learned there’s a top player using it already. A sad day.
    It means potato in Japanese

  • @Tonjit41
    @Tonjit41 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    It's the banjo main's podcast!

    • @krenkoboi23
      @krenkoboi23 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Idk if you need to be throwing out slurs like that

  • @gibidy2250
    @gibidy2250 ปีที่แล้ว

    Appreciate you guys thanks for all you do

  • @Gumbort
    @Gumbort ปีที่แล้ว +1

    New papa over here feeling Pink's lifing times!

  • @Nate_505
    @Nate_505 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I think even if Banjo and Kazooie might not be higher than Seph on a tier list, that they’re more of a “Tweek character” and also would seem to cover Diddy’s matchups better than Seph did. Super excited to see it in action!

  • @Afroninja1
    @Afroninja1 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    23:53 My goat spittin straight facts. Buff YL

  • @5hyguy42
    @5hyguy42 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Most Esports have a specific number of tournaments that count for rankings. In smash any and every tournament, if it’s big enough, can be held out of nowhere and count for rankings. Japan has the most large tournaments and, like tweek mentioned are in close proximity to each other unlike NA and Europe.

  • @Senaru
    @Senaru ปีที่แล้ว +19

    I hear a lot of people saying they want the year split for rankings so half-year rankings, but LumiRank could just do both half-year rankings and a full-year ranking for fun? What’s stopping them from doing that.

    • @samgardner7376
      @samgardner7376 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Extra work haha. This shit takes effort

    • @Senaru
      @Senaru ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@samgardner7376 I thought it was just put in algorithm, and it gives results. I'm not saying make the player graphics, info, cards etc. but just hard list the full-year rankings cause why not.

  • @Amaling
    @Amaling ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Happy for Charles having a proper career lol

  • @Slarti27-gy1xj
    @Slarti27-gy1xj ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Chuck is being vague about his new job, but we all know he's going back to Hawaii to build Zuckerberg's bunker

  • @browk2512
    @browk2512 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The producer just scrolling past people before anybody has the chance to talk about them is so aggravating

  • @swaggod1
    @swaggod1 ปีที่แล้ว

    The Capcom Pro Tour lasts throughout the whole calendar year. There’s qualifiers all year and then usually Capcom Cup is that December or early the next year.
    Same with the Tekken World Tour and whenever Netherrealm does something (MK11 and Injustice 2 Pro Series).
    Smash ranks lasting the whole year is pretty in line with other fighting games.

    • @TheVirginMeri
      @TheVirginMeri ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Tours/circuits and ranking seasons are completely different things.
      Tours have you actually competing for something with a consistent base for everyone.
      Smash rankings actually have no real meaning and are heavily flawed (which is why no game with an actual foundation/dev support will do offlicial rankings) you get nothing from them except maybe more eyes from sponsors.

  • @boomstickYT
    @boomstickYT ปีที่แล้ว

    I was watching an eevisu stream and I heard you are playing chrono trigger!
    It might be one of my favorite games ever and I just finished it a few weeks ago. Just wanted to say I hope you are enjoying it as much as I did.

  • @pineful4861
    @pineful4861 ปีที่แล้ว

    for next week's episode it'd also be cool to do some comparisons to your last tier list episode to see how the meta has changed in your guys' eyes

  • @KJ-a_a
    @KJ-a_a ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Dude I felt pink as a fellow tft masters player. Poor guy

  • @alexcoluna
    @alexcoluna ปีที่แล้ว +1

    every time charles shills and tells us to like the video, i pause the vid and like the video. he rlly toooo good at this shit 👏

  • @Babaganoush44
    @Babaganoush44 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    My prediction for the tierlist episode - Tweek just ranks One Piece characters and doesn't mention smash once

  • @RocksAreBlue
    @RocksAreBlue ปีที่แล้ว +4

    No Haz? EE probably watched this twice

  • @tehli6726
    @tehli6726 ปีที่แล้ว

    I feel like part of the reason for Corrin resurgence is the developing meta, since its a lot campier now across the board, the character stands out as a better pack and performs better overall

  • @altraxia2074
    @altraxia2074 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Sean from School, Ron from work.

  • @Slarti27-gy1xj
    @Slarti27-gy1xj ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I almost stopped watching at 46 games haha. I'm so jealous. That's my whole Steam library that I've been working on for years.
    Marcus knows what kids do to time lol

  • @squirrelwithabanana
    @squirrelwithabanana ปีที่แล้ว

    Stats nerd here, my top 9 is:
    Acola
    Sparg0
    Miya
    Sonix
    Gluto
    Tweek
    Light
    Riddles
    Yoshidora
    My 10th is either Kameme or Leo. Zomba and Shuton are also possible

    • @squirrelwithabanana
      @squirrelwithabanana ปีที่แล้ว

      If you want another esport with a full year ranking, look no further than melee!

    • @squirrelwithabanana
      @squirrelwithabanana ปีที่แล้ว

      Fui was murdered by Stuart98 in cold blood (had a bad early year). Meme was an HM due to low attendance

    • @squirrelwithabanana
      @squirrelwithabanana ปีที่แล้ว

      There were 2 jp falcos (M0tsunabe and MASA)

  • @TopOfAllWorlds
    @TopOfAllWorlds ปีที่แล้ว

    Sheik really is one of the best characters I'm glad people are finally waking up.

  • @regirob2360
    @regirob2360 ปีที่แล้ว

    Diddy and Banjo would be such a baller character duo for you Tweek. I know the consensus of the community is Banjo sucks, but he's got some crazy stuff and is not as bad as people think. Plus with Grenade you can do some slightly similar things with Z dropping and such.
    Anyways ya I don't know if Tweek will ever read this, but please keep the Banjo and Diddy duo.
    -Sincerely a Banjo enthusiast

  • @joshuadavis8265
    @joshuadavis8265 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I know tweek probably won’t see this but JPlay/ JoTa is a good banjo to watch. I don’t think he’s near TGa level of neutral. But his KFC and combos are much better imo. He might be able to provide on insight

  • @OniiChanPls
    @OniiChanPls ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Tier list next week? Bro i cant wait to watch Gavin cringe through parts of it lol

  • @oomenacka
    @oomenacka ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Maybe it's my wifi brain speaking, but I lab Banjo a lot and I do think he fairs pretty well against Steve. I actually feel weirdly comfortable in that mu.

  • @torchilicho
    @torchilicho ปีที่แล้ว

    That’s so cool you’re playing banjo-kazooie and what’s even cooler is you know kazooie is a girl. That’s something a lot of people i’ve talked to don’t know.

  • @monkeydjaime
    @monkeydjaime ปีที่แล้ว

    Please bring Hackoru on board of this Banjo training! His Banjo is REALLY GOOD, he also has a different playstyle from other Banjo mains!

  • @anon9203
    @anon9203 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I miss u hazardous matthew

  • @XanderW7381
    @XanderW7381 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My top 10 predictions
    1. Acola
    2. Spargo
    3. Miya
    4. Sonix
    5. Gluto
    6. Tweek
    7. Light
    8. Ken
    9. Yoshidora
    10. Zomba
    I’m pretty sure about the top 9 being in top 10 but there are many who could take the 10th spot

  • @OniiChanPls
    @OniiChanPls ปีที่แล้ว +2

    If yall ever get Leo back on can you guys discuss sephiroth with him? Apparently he believes but i kinda wanna see rhe difference between the way Tweek and Leo sees Seph

    • @trombonegamer14
      @trombonegamer14 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Leo believes in a campy seph. I see it, especially the way Ken plays once he gets wing. People don't talk about it, but seph with wing is so hard to approach

    • @OniiChanPls
      @OniiChanPls ปีที่แล้ว

      @@trombonegamer14 it definitely isn't something I caught into either - but Ken with wing being different is also new to me. Gotta check that out. Thanks!

    • @TheVirginMeri
      @TheVirginMeri ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@trombonegamer14 This contradicts the fact that he said Tweek -arguably the most passive Seph- plays the charscter wrong

    • @trombonegamer14
      @trombonegamer14 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@TheVirginMeri tweek might be the most passive seph player at the top level, but I have literally heard Leo say "you should camp more" to tweek regarding sephiroth

    • @TheVirginMeri
      @TheVirginMeri ปีที่แล้ว

      @@trombonegamer14 huh, thats interesting. i obviously dont see the game like them so i'll take leo's word for it

  • @HalfLifePlays
    @HalfLifePlays ปีที่แล้ว

    Does anyone know the banjo tech tweek was talking about when he called it “the hardest tech he’s ever attempted in ultimate? “

  • @splaturials9156
    @splaturials9156 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Man I feel like EE carries lights out now lmao this has a completly different vibe I kinda miss energy

    • @abghen2323
      @abghen2323 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think we just need Light and Cosmos to actually show up to the podcast and it'll be high energy again

  • @an-albinocrow33808
    @an-albinocrow33808 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Today I learned that Kazooie is a female. Thank you Gavin or Tweek 👍

  • @pmd3012
    @pmd3012 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    i know acola and miya have better consistency but sparg0 and sonix are undoubtedly better. Tough ranking to make

  • @ko-yoshi
    @ko-yoshi ปีที่แล้ว

    Ron is the Everyman and he will COOK you

  • @kyallon1213
    @kyallon1213 ปีที่แล้ว

    Honestly i’ve been trying to mess around with banjo and i’m really interested to see where tweek takes the character, especially with neutral B. I’ve never been more confused about a move in this game, because supposedly it’s one of if not the best too in his kit but genuinely feels like the most needlessly restricted and straight up worst moves in the game

  • @digitalchamploo9129
    @digitalchamploo9129 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Normally I concede to top player opinions for the most part but I will not accept Young Link not being good that character can do so much so well

  • @Kartalma
    @Kartalma ปีที่แล้ว

    Some characters are not high end viable. It doesn't matter who picks up the character, they just can't make the char work because of its mechanical limits. I believe Banjo is a char like that. You either outskill your opponent hard or you lose because opponent is a good player with a character that just has better dynamics. Tltr: Doesn't matter how good of a driver you are. You can't beat a bugatti veyron in your Peugeot 206 in a dragrace. Banjo is the Peugeot.

  • @rocklob069
    @rocklob069 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Where is Omega the joker? Did I miss him because he's not even in the honorable mentions.

    • @jinxeatsdust
      @jinxeatsdust ปีที่แล้ว +5

      no joke he was #151 just barley missed top 150 he dm'd lumirank about where he was and that's what they said
      (also hms are for people who didn't make attendance cuts like proto and meme)

  • @vertarix
    @vertarix ปีที่แล้ว +2

    1. MkLeo
    2-10. Acola, Sparg0, Miya, Tweek, Gluto, Light, Dabuz, Sonix, Shuton

  • @shirinau
    @shirinau ปีที่แล้ว

    Anyone has a link to the lumirank?

  • @Brion15
    @Brion15 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Banjo and Kazooie beats steve, you can also time the character out.

  • @armania_9064
    @armania_9064 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    1. Acola
    2. Miya
    3. Sparg0
    4. Sonix
    5. Glutonny
    6. Tweek
    7. Yoshidora
    8. Light
    9. Hurt
    10. Ken

  • @julesm5892
    @julesm5892 ปีที่แล้ว

    top 10 should look like :
    acola
    spargo
    miya
    sonix
    gluto
    tweek
    light
    ken ( probably recency bias but he didn't have that bad of a start for the year)
    zomba?
    yoshidora?
    I could see riddles, shuton, muteace and leo ( copium ) take those last two spots

    • @armakeen3576
      @armakeen3576 ปีที่แล้ว

      Turns out KEN and Zomba aren't in rhe top 10, but leo and riddles are, which is really surprising

    • @julesm5892
      @julesm5892 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@armakeen3576 leo isn't, he's 11th

    • @armakeen3576
      @armakeen3576 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@julesm5892 oh yes my bad

  • @nevohyams
    @nevohyams ปีที่แล้ว

    "predicting the top 30 players left"
    so that was a lie.
    lol I'm sure they'll mention it at some point, even if next episode is the tier list, but i have to wonder how many people Marcus remembered

  • @Tonjit41
    @Tonjit41 ปีที่แล้ว

    30:26 unfortunate to show cosmos after saying that...

    • @Tonjit41
      @Tonjit41 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Because he is the guy that lost to piranha plant with pyra/mythra. Nothing says garbo like that. Undisciplined; impulsive; unpracticed; sloppy masher. His wins are a fluke due to his character and top player friends. There is a sussy imposter on this list, and it's Cosmos.

    • @abghen2323
      @abghen2323 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@Tonjit41Cosmos would beat your entire bloodline in smash at once. He's good

  • @danielcastano9124
    @danielcastano9124 ปีที่แล้ว

    🔥🤘🏻🔥

  • @Get2daChoppah
    @Get2daChoppah ปีที่แล้ว

    Honestly it would be crazy if the entire lifespan of ultimate goes by and tweek was never officially ranked as the #1 player at least once

  • @splaturials9156
    @splaturials9156 ปีที่แล้ว

    Joker is this he gets a 15 second preciese combo bam only 35%

  • @ToucanBinks
    @ToucanBinks ปีที่แล้ว

    👍

  • @kylesantos5536
    @kylesantos5536 ปีที่แล้ว

    Tweek, watch Juanpi vs Teaser. You’ll see Banjo beat Samus

  • @aaa_aaa_11123
    @aaa_aaa_11123 ปีที่แล้ว

    nice

  • @Aristotle000001
    @Aristotle000001 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    waitwaitwait wait wait you didn't show pink's top 30 xd c'mon guys

    • @SmidgeFilms
      @SmidgeFilms ปีที่แล้ว +1

      No shot I waited til the end of the episode for that

  • @kudokey
    @kudokey ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Japanese players are higher rank is cause of more top players attendees but also they farm almost every top NA players. Not only just Acola and miya they beat almost all NA players. I didn’t expect Kanninabe and Umeki would make top 8 for port priority even they are not top 20 players in Japan.

  • @RandogGaming
    @RandogGaming ปีที่แล้ว +5

    1. Miya
    2. Acola
    3. Sonix
    4. Sparg0
    5. Gluto
    6. Tweek
    7. Light
    8. Zomba
    9. Muteace
    10. Yoshidora

    • @B00_Dior
      @B00_Dior ปีที่แล้ว

      shuton?

    • @Senaru
      @Senaru ปีที่แล้ว +10

      I see people just be saying things just to say things 😂

    • @RandogGaming
      @RandogGaming ปีที่แล้ว +1

      yoshidora and shuton are really close, yoshidora was just slightly more consistent @@B00_Dior

    • @mercurysnake274
      @mercurysnake274 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I don’t think mute is top 10 tbh. Considering that it’s a full year ranking, he was just way too inconsistent at certain points

    • @loooooooooooooooooob
      @loooooooooooooooooob ปีที่แล้ว +8

      no fucking chance muteace is 9 lmao

  • @Dougie02
    @Dougie02 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I never really noticed this, but dang, I take Haz for granted 😅 his presence was missed. It's like a whole blackhole like the oxygen has left the room when he isn't a part of an episode.

    • @fna5360
      @fna5360 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I didn't get that vibe at all.

  • @thelocs5935
    @thelocs5935 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    "Today we'll be talking about tweeks banjo" had my hyped up. Then it was just 40 minutes of scrolling through the article of players and saying "that's my goat" cmon guys this is boring podcast content. If you wanted to make a react video, do that next time.
    Not trying to hate, I love the work you guys do. Giving commentary on the players could have made this much more interesting. But scrolling through each of them one by one and just reading their names off then saying 'shoutout' is not the way to make this kind of episode

    • @gracefuldrowning138
      @gracefuldrowning138 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Commentary on 100 players would be a VERY long podcast bruv

    • @thelocs5935
      @thelocs5935 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @gracefuldrowning138 yeah I don't want that either. I want it to be treated like their tournament recaps where they just talk about the stuff they actually have something to say about lol

  • @johnstacy9549
    @johnstacy9549 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Stop scrolling to next person on rank list when still talking about someone else gets so annoying