PHANTOM F12 ISSUES!!!! Tuning the stage6 mk2 + Yasuni C16
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THE F12 nightmare. We fight some tuning issues and pull lots of wheelies.
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Had this same set up but water cooled. Ran a 42 pilot, 100 main and a W7 needle on the middle position in a 21mm delorto and it ran beautifully. Recently upgraded to a polini pwk 24mm now running a 45 pilot and 115 main. These kits can take a lot of fuel.
I love these video you should post more I live the content so much gives me so many ideas on what to do with my moped and gets me to love the hobby even more
if cooling is an issue you can buy a bigger cooling fan we do that a lot where im from. for the stage6 mk2 you could prob use a bigger carb and you need to get it up to about 13000-14000 rpm for it to really blow the exhaust up. matbe lighter rollers or a tune variator can fix the porblem.
a lot of people skip or overlook rotor/ignition...once I had one installed for my MK2 Racing, it was MILES better and without it you can't really achieve the RPM/performance you need without one.
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She deffo got more to give trev, installed my full PM tuning set uo into my aerox today hopefully gear it run tonorrow
Another great video, keep safe and ride till the wheels fall off brotha. Great having DK Jr back too
Had the exact same problem.. I tried everything..then I put a red contra on and is solved it!
So I have a s6 mk2 sport pro, an LPC reinforced crank, polini cp 21, polini 24mm 360° intake, and s6 carbon reed and there reed block. I have a naraku variator and an NYC multi angle secondary pulley, and an 10.2 final drive ratio. I also have port matched cases and cylinder, a polini 4 race exhaust, and polini evolution crank seals. So I've found that it likes 3-3.5g and 3-3g rollers and I'm running a 110 main and 36 pilot. I have the needle all the way down. It runs around 320 at wot for a while. It does me great and I've been on this kit for over 6.5k miles. Hope this helps. I am soon to upgrade my crank to a polini HPC crank to hopefully it will run a lil better lol 😂. Love the vids bro keep em coming.
Love all ur videos been watching u sense the beginning of the 50cc moped
try the Yasuni R with his range of 11.000 rpm and the cilinder stage6 mk2 runs max 10.500 rpm......the c16 does actually something between 13 - 14.000 rpm.
i had a simliar issue with one of my bikes try a hotter plug solved my issue on mhr rep with a c16 that lives at 11.5k they recommend br9 but i changed to a br8 iridium and sompletly solved the loading up
check the colour off the spark plug for a good a/f ratio. the colour needs to be coffee brown than your a/f is mostly spot on. fine adjust then is with the carb needle. after a good a/f i recommend you get the primairy gears change to malossi straight 13/44 because off the high rev cilinder. autowheely garanteed.
You need a bigger exhaust, try an c20, malossi mhr 2006 of a hebo hr 4. A c16 is a good exhaust for a simpel 70cc. Such as a malossi sport or polini sport. But if you het a Racing cilinder, you also need a Racing exhaust.
try setting the squish a bit lower on the cyllender head so you can get more effect or se if you can try mixing up some rolles... it could be a bunch of things 🤔
have you tried stagering weights 3x 3gr and 3x5gr , the three grams will engage fairly fast but the five gram rollers wont engage till a higher rpm is made. i had take off band top end speed problems i staggered my weights 3g-5g-3g-5g-3g-5g found i gained more punch off the line but also found a higher top end speed once the pipe kicked in
100% its the needle clip! same issue on w my cp21
what do you use to record your voice and video while riding? nice video man
purple panda mic and a gopro 8
Based on temps and loading up under full throttle, I’d look at base timing being a little too advanced
if it was advanced it would be running hot and lean , if anything it’s too rich
@@MOPBOYZ True. Because the a/f would have more time to burn off. Didn’t think about that.
I thought you said it was running a little hot in the video but maybe I misheard.
You put out great content btw 🤙 been watching for awhile. Always on my YT feed so I hadn’t subbed yet.
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You should get the yasuni axial variator i got it today and i immediately noticed an acceleration increase
If you come to Eastern Europ the scooter thing here is outrageous, mk2 racing or Dr Evolution or any Stage6 cylinder, 21mm carbs, Stage6 or Polini or Malossi intake and reeds, yasuni c21 or c16, Malossi multivar and malossi or stage6 clutch almost on every scooter, for us 60mph is slow, like 75-80mph is high
If that polini carb is bad on multiple scoots just bin it bro and get something else/better.
have you tried a 17.5 carb on the bike? 21 could be to big of a air/fuel flow [jets wont be proper for the mm size of carb] i had that on my piaggio nrg a proper tuned 17.5 worked better for it then 21
I have same issue, stage 6 sport pro, C16, Polini 21... on my prebug... did all kind of pilots 34-42 same end result, only way symptoms go away is for a new plug and that only last just a couple of miles. I still don't know what it may be I think I just need a bigger carb ? I do run out of gears toping at 59mph at 12.5k rpm
with this kinds of setup i love the use water cooling way better
I drive malaguti f15 with 17.5mm delotro carb and 4.2g dr pulley weights and everthing stock. It goes like a rocket. But when i put on stage 6 PRO replica exhaust it goes a little slower but top speed is higher. I would go stock everthing like mine setup.
smart carb will definetly help
last test more better bro on f12 and i love it you build bro
Aircooled 50cc minarelli machines are hard to tune without overheating have my chinese keeway 2 ciliynder seized one was running shit an slow and ither one just seized 2 days ago it lasted 15 days but it was pulling hard when you hit full gas it had stage 6 pro replica exhaust try that one really good on high revs
Use a inner rotor ignition. The flywheel is a lot lighter and loads up way faster. Ik have also a F12 air cooled. I have the Ducati edition with the MHR replica 70cc. I use also a Polini carb but the PWK model. They are very good. And tuning is easier than the one u use. I read about your specific model Polini. Not good reviews.
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Maybe run the stock air box with snorkel out
Iv’e had the same problem even if i tried different carbs. Then i Got into speaking with a dude i was Racing with he told me that i should check my crank seals if they were bad and the were that fixed the problem
I have a 85 main jet on my 21mm carb 70cc mhr kit doesn't load up at all
raise the needle clip to the most leanest setting on the cp carbs
With my piaggio zip 2stroke i had the same setup with main jet 107
You can try a delortto carb first 25 or a 26mm i think Its the polini carb. Looks like youre clutch is to weak also! 😉
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i got scarabeo with a horizontal minarelli with a top tpr 70 and a dell orto 21 carb, and i can only achieve 90kmh ,so yours getting to 110 is very good , but i got a giannelli reverse pipe
You need a harder torque converter spring and the rollers are way to light
my malaguti phantom (100) cc does that when its too hot, like when i drive it very hard and its hot outside, it just when you go full throttle boggs and doesnt run ( and when i let it cool, for some time its like normal again)
Put a malossi vl14 it wont help with tuning but it makes it allot smoother and increeses hp
lover the nedle in the carb
Where you bought this bottle of oil to have the perfect quantity
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i have same problem on my aerox 70cc barikit with dellort 21 at start is bugging af then rev to max without problems and dont lose any power is just when i try stop and full throttle i have a 100 jet on it ,i think is something related to the electric system idk
Drop the Mainjet to 98 - 95
Stronger contra I think and bigger carb
Adjust the size of the exaust outlet
After watching most of this video almost at the end it sounds like it's rubbing up too high and or your back pressure is not enough wondering if your muffler has too big of a hole in the exit
Where can i buy a smartcarb for scooter i was at their site and there was onlyfor dirtbikes
It's probobly just the polini carb. Try dellorto 21 and up
Smart carb it!!
What is your top speed ??
Prebug is goated sorry gy6 boyz
Gas lines tight?suckin some air?
28 mm karb and yazuni c 21 . and you are roling . Belive me
I've got some questions I'm about to buy a scooter not sure which one to get I'm trying to get a street Lego 50cc but I want to put bigger motor in it but not let the cops know I have it which obviously if they clock me doing more than 35 in Wisconsin they'll figure it out but have any tips
Bbks in 47mm,50mm,52mm,52.4mm can be had for $50 on amazon, but theres lots to improve on a 50cc, you can port the head intake and exhaust ports, use 2 or even 3 inrake boot spacers(with gaskets) run an exhaust fror a 150cc, go up to a 22-24mm carb, cone filter on a pipe instead of straight on carb, a flashlight tube of right diameter is perfect. Advance your timing by grinding slots into bolt holes of pickup,index spark plug, remove crush washer on plug just dont overtighten, check valve clearance often, keeo oil changed, pickup a glixal a9 cam from amazon for $12, experiment with rollers and clutch springs.a gear up kit for final drive gear is under $25 and theres sEveral ratios like 15/52, 17/49, etc. Get valve grinding compound and thoroughly lap the valves into tge head for tight seals, run premium gas with an additive like lucas,mystery oil,etc.
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haha dope vid fam
Love you videos i would love to see you ride sone piaggio’s😃😃
I wonder if its something with polini carbs tbh, my AF16 has been doing some weird stuff too that I'm pretty sure is fuel related and I'm on 24mm PWK. Haven't really had the motivation to dig into it further to figure it out, but I may save my pennies (and a headache) and just go Smart Carb.
Also at 17:28 you said the clip was 1 click below middle that would richen it. Going 1 clip above middle would lean it out
i definitely meant above , it’s one down from the top hahaha i could go all the way up and see if it helps a little
@@MOPBOYZ That's what I had to do and it worked out great.
@@MOPBOYZ oh ok I just wanted to make sure lmao, hopefully you figure it out, the F12 is sick
Still waiting for the day you grab a zip, typhoon or runner 🥲
not a fan of typhoon . but if there ever happens to be a zip or a runner in a america i would be all over it
Do you have gears?
and give it a little more air on the carb
Cool
Nice
I got a 72 malossi kit 28oko carb
dopehh
What needle are you on? And what clip?
1 down from top if anything should be lean
@@MOPBOYZ I’d try it on the top, it seems to be as it comes onto the needle it bogs. Does it have a steep taper on the needle?
Also might seem like a dumb question but, there’s no restrictions in the pipe is there?
pipe has no restrictions
@@ShalomBrother polini is always rich on idle always gotta have the clip in the top position usually
My guess is a airleak crank seal moving around
it would be running lean / high idle / running hot if was air leak
Plow compressed air thru polite jet passage
I've had cdi wire ground out on the flywheel do this same thing
if that was the case it would do it the whole time not just off take off my dude hahah. it’s def a fuel issue
powerband is way to low, that thing can do much better
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what weigt is the rollers???
24g
malagutti croser cr1
phantom malaguti air cooled years 1999
let me buy this
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Needle clip
this moped have problem with heat, its overheating a lot
it hasn’t overheated once hahaha
Buy a Yamaha Aerox but the old models
they’re not in america
Yo! Where’s the bug bro?!
backyard
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My idle rpm is very low like 430-500 can anyone help🤣
adjust the idle on the carb
Don’t need it 😂