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tony is the best united pundit on any channel. he often says what i'm thinking & saying. we don't always agree. but i love tony's straight forward views that cut through all the BS we hear elsewhere. great to see your channel growing. JG
When will Tony start to say the player's name (Mazraoui)right? Every single time they talk about the player I cannot finish watching. I just turn it off. I cannot stand how Tony says the player's name, because we all know there is no (MA ZA...) IN THE PLAYER'S FIRST NAME. GET IT RIGHT FOR GOODNESS SAKES.
I wouldn't class Eric Tin Pot or Ole as world class. But I feel they weren't the main problem. The damage came from above. None footballing people giving very ordinary mediocre players massive contracts and huge wages. That's what has killed United. Ineos have got to impose a levelling off time. And if that means paying contracts up to get rid of players then so be it. What other Prem club is shoe Horning players like Eriksen.. Anthony. Casemiro. Dalot. Onana into their teams.
@@tedstan9734reaching 3 out of 4 cup finals with that team is impressive.but you go support ineos and their new yes man based on absolutely nothing,i mean erik ten hag beat him 9-3 over two games in the cl with ajax😂😂
Just watched match of the day highlights, to confirm my initial thoughts from yesterday, Wolves scrapped chased closed down, ours strolled about, disgrace
OK...its depressing at the moment... But let's get right behind the. Manager....we can all agree this season has gone...Let's not kid ourselves this is a massive undertaking Amorim, let's also remember he's had little time to impose his playing philosophy on the players...many of whom I fear just ain't good enough for his system .
This lack of work rate and effort and dare I say fitness has been missing since Ferguson left. Since he has left every team from every manager has looked lethargic.
It's absolutely shocking what we as fans are watching out the door 🚪 with them simple as that decks need to be cleared big time l think this manager is the business but that's my own opinion it's gone beyond embarrassment now ffs
I too have been supporting United for 50+ years and it saddens me too but it also frightens me. I’m getting ‘74 vibes and I don’t like it. The next five games are crucial, getting points is vital! And of course once the Press smell blood they’ll be on us like vampires. Time to stick together, support the club and be ready for a fight.
I'm 55. I was only 5 in 1974, so I can't remember the relegation year. But I can remember how bad we were in 1989. It was much the same as now. Yeah, it's tough times, but you know what? These are the times when real United fans show their true colours. These are the times when we stick together. Even in those dark days of 1989, I don't remember anyone seriously calling for Fergie's head. The buzz word was 'disillusioned' amongst many fans, but we stuck it out. Which is what we all have to do now. We waited 26 years for a title in 1993. So we're all going to have to do a little bit more waiting. Keep the faith!
@@windowman929 was actually at the Blackburn match the night we won our first premiere league title l actually met Darren Ferguson on the Sunday he was out with friends of his in Manchester watching villa when Oldham beat them lovely guy sound out he was this team now is absolutely horrific and l am a fan forty years have been to Wembley when we lost to villa in the league cup final but we still won the double that season can't believe how bad we are now worst team l have ever seen wearing a united shirt should be ashamed of themselves and that's the truth
If you watch the 4-4-2 video on his tactics he didn't actually change anything. And then he filled the team with players "who can do what I want" and we went backwards. The fact we have that joker of a keeper being one. 15 of our 25 players we brought in by ETH.
@@3DSte1985united didnt go backward because of onana,it was because the highest payed players refuse to take any responsibility bruno rashford casemiro would rather hide behind young players.ten hag realized after 2 games that this man united side can only play 1 way, you cant teach people in their late 20s to play like ajax you baboon
Been supporting Utd. since I was a bright eyed boy in 1981. This is a serious crisis. Deeply troubling times. The mismanagement of the club has been extraordinary. When will this great club be resurrected?
We just got a new team, 15 of the 25 squad are from ETHs time. Time to move on from "the coach needs players to do X, Y and Z". We should be demanding the manager should be getting the best out of what he has. The formation doesn't work, so scrap it.
I don't think many in this squad want to put the hard yards in. Last season we get leaks saying they don't like the amount of running in training, that says it all about some of them tbh.
The match going fans are the real ones that are suffering they are the ones that pay the price for Ratcliffe’s greed and now this so called storm united are in , RA is here to clean house instead of picking a team capable of winning games and giving the fans something to cheer for
@@andyhxof course he knows. That’s why he took the job. He likes coming from behind and to be the underdog. He went trough the exactly same thing in Sporting. He also got here at mid season and couldn’t do much. But he prepared the team for the next season and won the title with the best defense and one loss only that came after the 1st place was secure. You have a soft and out of shape team. Some players don’t even deserve to dress Man Utd jersey.
Hi lads toon fan here great channel honest like we are i would take a point on Monday expecting a difficult game even though we are playing well anyway best of luck for the rest of the season after Monday👍👍
Tony is spot on, really agree with his opinion on most things regarding the team. I think the issue with the players is fitness. Or maybe a basic lack of energy and football intelligence.
Even when fit the players are not physically strong enough or Athletic enough. Amorim mentioned this in his first week of being here. We get bullied physically and have done for several years. To many injury prone, or aging players or the likes of Bruno, Garna, Rashford etc that easily get brushed aside like schoolboys.
As always top show, brutally honest, MUFC are in big trouble, i was optimistic in August. United made a statement, no incomings in January without sales, worrying times ahead. All very well saying sell, question is who's going to want our overrated overhyped overpaid players.
Amorim's rotation will rotate him right out of the OT front door. Injuries happen, rotation or not. What we need right now is points. We have Newcastle and Liverpool next and zero points from these will put us right down amongst the bottom 5 0r 6 teams. Amorim is a nice guy, but he needs to get selfish. Rashford will be leaving our club, but right now he needs to be in the team between now and his transfer. Garnacho and Dalot don't have the footballing IQ to know when to pass and when to shoot. The playing out from the back and ability to deal with dead-ball situations is beyond hopeless. There is so much wrong with the club that dealing with these issues is nigh on impossible. We need to be selfish and 'use' only the players he trusts - or even doesn't trust, but knows have the best chances of getting us over the line for the next 6 weeks that will make or break his own position as manager. I would look at players such as Johnny Evans in front of the misfiring ones who will let him down time and time and time again. The ultimate goal is to get rid of the Glazers - they are a cancer that will eat away at our club even if we turn over a new and more successful leaf over the next 4 or 5 years. But, for now... Priority number 1 is to get a consistent team playing (injuries will happen) because points on the board is more important than nursing these players... If necessary, play the youngsters every now and again. Ditch the playing out from the back... Concentrate on dead ball situations... Pass the ball forwards and press from the front... MUFC fans at OT need to turn our ground into a bear pit for opposition teams like they do at other grounds and get on the backs of the referees (who give us absolutely nothing in every game...) Get a head shrink in, like Paul McKenna to work on the fragile minds of our players... Nothing has worked, so why not try hypnosis on these 'flakes' At the end of the day I will support my team until my dying breath. Sadly, I no longer expect us to score, let alone win in any of our games... #saveourteam #glazersOUT
Yeeeeeeeah... none of that will happen. Championship here you come... and not before time! I mean if you think of it, devaluing the club may be the plan all along - Glazers may finally sell.
@@TheAdArchiveYou may be correct. Thanks to the Glazers we will have to reset... Sadly, that may well be from The Championship. The Glazers used MUFC like they did The Tampa Bay Buccaneers and we allowed them to do it. I will never forgive them. The debt in our club is a millstone round our neck and is scarier than our on field performances. I am praying for the miracle that the Glazers sell up and ship out ASAP. #glazersOUT
Their is no player any manager feels they can trust and thats the problem. If theirs mice around food at the club. Then imagine what the training ground must be like might explain why we have so many injuries. Working with alot of youngsters in physical group only makes it even tougher. This is why every manager fell apart. We need Glazers to pay off injury prone players in january along with proven goal scorer. The rest of Glazer signings paid off in summer Ineos replace them. Best is complete sell to Saudis but that will not happen.
The reason for rotation is to avoid last year’s situation were players were getting injured all the time also although he can’t say it he seeing who needs to go and who he thinks he can work with going to take two or three seasons. If we can get in 5 players by the summer along with a pre season we will look a completely different team.
@@chrisroberts8864I get why he is trying to rotate but when you need points on the board you have to choose your best available players. If not, why not play the U 21s or the U 18s to safeguard your top squad. How many points have we gained?
When the Glazers took over, a large section of Utd's traditional support, grounded in the club's culture, left. Manchester Utd is under threat. The culture, the stadium, the mythology, the support. *Do not be fooled by the Ratcliffe facade.*
Ratcliffe is glazers fall guy ….. for sure they in it with same attitude as glazers and dont give a shit about fans … its about revenue streams nothing else
2 games??? The next 3 games are going to to be horrendous. Amorins tactics will work, wolves played a 343 and beat us. Dalot is shit and needs selling. Amorin will get this right, but patience is needed. Ratcliffe doesn't have eyes elsewhere the team is the priority. But PSR stops that. We're not playing FM25.
Dalot isn't shit. But he's a right back, nothing more. He was one of our best players last season as a right back. He might not be able to play in the new system, I agree. But as a right back he was very good last season. He's shit as a left wing back, I would agree with you there!
It drives me mad saying the players can’t play the system there professional footballers . We play Sunday league football and we are just average footballers who actually pay subs to play and we can play the system easy and we play other systems . Our players just don’t want to play different systems because of there lazy attitude, but there still happy to pick up there wages . It’s a disgrace the players are just not good enough obviously. Great show as always lads .
We played 3-5-2 in Sunday League. I was wingback! That was a bloody hard shift! You had to be the fittest player in the team to play there! Up and down the whole length of the pitch for 90 minutes!
Anyone see Garnacho for the 2nd Wolves goal? If that was Rashford...would you have the same energy? Where is Garnacho's reaction to being benched for the City game? Just mardy on the pitch and the way he gave the ball away was a disgrace
@tenfour2215 tbh, we poached the kid from the Atleti academy (in the pre Brexit days. Post Brexit...that loop hole is no longer there). Be fitting in a way...him ending up at Atleti. Just wished we kept players like Elanga...he would be great under Ruben
How are you going to get players out on the wages they are on. They are just going to run their long contracts down, and the club is obliged to pay them whether they perform or not. The club has been run like a circus, and they will be a lot more pain before things change!
Because the players we have aren’t good. Why should he change his system to suit the players? The absolute MOST you’d get out of this squad is what ? 5th/6th? We are the smallest, one of if not the youngest, definitely the most unatheltic, and non technical team in the league? Why persist with trying to get the best out of these players??? We also have hardly any leadership among the players and definitely ZERO accountability I’d rather take some pain, and actually establish a system rather than the chaos ball we have played for 5 years. Please please please use your brains
@@evancave1287 I agree with your paras 1+2. Not many would agree with para 3. There are many systems - why pick the one least suited to the players at your disposal. Oh, and it is a results business - Amorim will not last long enough to see your dreamworld come true. It will be 4-4 bloody 2 by Feb 25.
Exactly, stadium investment will not affect the transfer kitty. Planning permission etc will take years anyway, it's not something that needs "putting on hold" it'll never get built. 😂 I love Tony and Kieran but let's not go down the moaning at everything route without any logic behind it. Amorim told us a storm was coming, he knows it's a major job to rebuild this squad. Some of these fans and channels think a few tweaks and Amorim waving a magic wand fixes everything are deluded. Time and patience is needed instead of moaning how shit we are. First and foremost this squad is physically not upto the battles and that's clear to see for anyone who isn't blind. Ugarte was the only player who won a high percentage of his duels yesterday, both Bournemouth and Wolves both dominated us physically and no amount of coaching or systems will overcome this problem. Amorim has already mentioned this that we don't have enough "athletes" in the squad. It is mainly a personel issue and I don't believe it's always as simple as the other side "wanted it more" that's to simplistic although at times some players like Rashford have been a disgrace regarding the lack of effort shown. The crazy thing is that it's not exactly a new phenomenon, Jose introduced the likes of Essien and the Drogbas etc big strong powerful players that could win the duels first then get the ball down and play football. Amorim isn't papering over the cracks, he's going to rip the woodchip of and knock all the blown plasterwork of and go back to brick. Edersen is a must for this midfield alongside Ugarte because Kobbie and Bruno looked like schoolboys yesterday. Kobbies lack of pace and mobility is also starting to concern me, hopefully Amorim can find a solution for him in the system.
💯% spot on. Seems people have not realized it yet. Seeing the money generated by the new Hot Spurs stadium,The Glazers wanted to build a new stadium by leveraging more debt on United. Fanbase went mental and their public image got tarnished. Now come INEOS and Sir Jim Radcliffe, the lackey who will do the dirty work, whether we like it or not. They have already show how ruthless they are. Here is their plan: - reduce players wage bills by phasing out ageing players on huge salaries (rahsford, casimero, luke shaw and Co.) - increase revenue through better commercial deals, one of INEOS strong suit. - Fall under PSR threshold and present better financial statements to obtain the loan needed to build the new stadium. They will be a lot of broken eggs in that process. So Buckle up United fans, we are in for a ride in the next 3 to 5 years
Why we not improving on set pieces? Simple question...why is it not being addressed? We just conceded 2 goals, in 3 games, direct from a corner. When in the last 5 0r 10 seasons have United conceded direct from a corner? Very worrying signs. These coaches are too naive. No nouse around any of them
The old, injured, can’t be arsed and just can’t do it is not a Man Utd team. Wolves looked like a team we want to be. Unable to beat the bottom of the table team says everything .
Unless Ruben changes his tactics , which obviously the current players can't adapt to , fans will be paying £66 next season to watch championship football .it's survival football that is a necessity. Keep us in the Premier league and start your new process in the close season, or else he will be playing 3 at the back at millwall, Luton etc etc
I have been watching Ineos for many years, not only their sports interests, but their core chemicals business. And it all comes back to Ratcliffe. Regardless of the world class talent he hires, to survive in his organisation they have to become world class 'yes men'. And if I could be so bold, I would not trust Ratcliffe as far as I could spit. Such is my trust in him.
In my personal opinion anyone who is even beginning to question Amorim seriously needs to take a long hard look at themselves. The entire fanbase needs to accept what needs to happen as a club. Until the fanbase matures, grows up and actually understands what is fundamentally wrong with the team then we are going no where. Fans who sit there and question a manager after a month because there are “red flags” are one of the main reasons why this club has been allowed to fail so spectacularly over the past decade. People seriously need to give their heads a wobble and prepare themselves for pain. It’s going to get a hell of a lot worse before it gets better. I respect everybody’s opinion and everyone is entitled to it but this sort of opinion is going to be so detrimental to the future of Amorim and what he is trying to achieve. If we cant completely back Amorim then we might as well just stop right now, sack Amorim and bring in Gareth Southgate.
Same script...No money.....Needs time.....wrong players.. it's never been this bad..... Young players being ruined by senior players attitude.... spend big or sell the club
Do you mean the fairytale state backed bid from Qatar fronted by Jassim? The one that didn't provide the necessary proof of funds requested by the Rayne group that was necessary for the bid to proceed? Oil me up! I wanted the fairytale ending as well initially. Maybe Elon Musk can save us next time or Apple.
My main concern with continuing to play the formation is the opponent’s know our weakness well in advance, you can see it game on game !! I would say we need 9 players who can play the 3-4-3 at the minute it’s best to go back to ETH formations and scrape an odd win !! We need 18-24 points to stay up
I see Ratcliffe the same way as the glazers, all about the money and nothing about the supporters, and as for the players they couldn't even be bothered to property acknowledge the away fans after the wolves game, no heart, no pride no guts. Where's the points coming from ?
You guys signed a Michelin star chef and and gave him turds for ingredients... I'm sorry, but, Dalot, Onana, Bruno Fernandes, Casemiro, Lindelof, Evans, Rashford, Garnacho, Antony, Malacia, Martinez , Shaw and Mount need to GO ASAP. They are simply not good enough, we are MANCHESTER UNITED! Not even Ancelotti or Kloop could do anything with these players. Open the fk wallet and get players who can be intense on the ball and can run like dogs for 90 minutes!
Fernandes is a world class player so I refuse to criticize him. He has always been fully committed. Conceding 2 goals directly from corners unbelievable. Lack of belief causing rash decisions.
He hasn't behaved like a world-class player this season. He has been far from it. Fernandez is supposed to set a good example to the young players at the club.
How can you refuse to criticise him when some of his behaviour is literally atrocious. If Keane was on that pitched he'd have punched him for how h behaves. He's literally like a petulant child.
Saw the same problem under LVG. Amorim probably saw we were losing duels and 2nd ball being out fought. And they’re doing what Di’Maria was guilty of doing and got himself set off. Fighting for the ball means committing not blooming fouling and being desperate
If the guy can't recognise that 3-4-3 doesn't work with this group of players & still persists in playing it. déjà vu of INEOS signing, now we know how well that turned out to be..
Big Jim going to bed with the Glazers is going to be the tipping point if we ever get relegated £66 in the Championship 😂, Onana, Bruno , Dalot will be dropped or rather sold oh including the 350k a week jogging Casemiro out. Big Jim just messed things up, his stadium 🏟️ nonsense won’t help at this stage upgrading is the only option, no pre-season what did they expect? Miracles turn water into wine 🍷 impossible. Thanks again gents. Happy new year to everyone who supports Manchester United 🇨🇦🇨🇦🇨🇦🇨🇦
great analysis as usual by Tony. we need a performance like the one at Villa that Tony rightly applauds in these next 2 matches against Newcastle & Liverpool. If Ruben stubbornly sticks to his formula and refuses to come up with Pan B i fear we will be embarrassed by both newcastle and liverpool. and then we go to arsenal in the cup potetially dragged into a a real crisis. I've said this on my channel and I'd like to be wrong. But these players can't do what ruben is demanding. Tomy is 100% correct. we have to adapt. JG
What formation or style of play can these players actually play? I am dead serious with this question, because we have had all the styles since sir alex and i can list them all if needed but we can’t successfully play any of them. Tell me what style or formation we can play that we will win with this squad because imo after all the different styles tried and failed the answer is we aren’t good enough as a squad to play any of them and win regularly.
NO SPINE PLUS THEY CAN'T PLAY THE SYSTEM ! INEOS TOOK STUPID GAMBLE FOR THIS MANAGER WITH THESE PLAYERS. SHOULD HAVE KEPT RVN UNTIL END OF SEASON. PREPARE FOR MORE...
I tried to say our target was 40 pts, anything else is just unrealistic. Our attack is abysmal fellas, £180M on Hojlund, Zirkzee and Antony, can you believe that? None of them carry any threat what so ever.
The defending at corners could be sorted out by any pub team coach,they stand flat footed defending zones like subutteo players,Zones don’t score goal’s players do,man on each post and man to man marking put your man under pressure and attack the ball,part of the problem is we’re a small weak team,every team we play out muscle us completely,I’m not turning on Amorim but he has to take a lot of blame.
Rubin Amorim has no experience in a relegation battle and its showing....we just need results now and its not the time to tinkle with the start up and lose. People look at the Leeds united team that got relegated in 2003-04 they had Alan smith and Mark Viduka up front with Paul Robinson in goal. You telling me this United team cant be relegated.....?
Has to move Amad back to the right wing back surely, so at least we have one! Mazraoui left side. Dont want to see Rashfords mate there either. Ericson and Zirkzee as the 10's. Im actually looking forwards to no Fernandez, it cant get any worse, what is there to lose. At least we have a shouut from corners and free kicks without him! Prey Rashford is never seen again, Garnacho similair, no longer care, weak and isnt trying.
Can't say I'm surprised that it's already at the Amorim/Amor-out stage with these reactionary internet fans. One minute they're declaring we've signed the Messiah, next minute he is useless, all whilst ignoring the same players are still playing.
Hi lads great live as always we want to see see effort from the players and it's a disgrace and a shambles but still behind ruben 💯 per cent love United ❤️ hate dirty jim ineos 2.0 glazers and dirty glazers
Ruben must take responsibility for these defensive lapses from set pieces, wtf are the defenders doing, it's easy to blame Onana, but he's definitely not getting protection from the defence currently.
Anyone saying Amorim needs to go needs to wind their neck in. The players are the problem. We need a firesale. Doesn't matter if they are good players either. It whether they can play the system and excel at it that matters. Very few of them are even capable let alone good at it. Bruno is one of them. Great player, not in this system though. Amorim should not change his system because he will never be able to go back to it. They players will know they have won if he does!!
Ratcliffe couldn't give a shit about manchester united like see what Xmas bonus he had we need another 3 or 4 million to spend on new players where we getting that from and who would want to come to us.
Whether you like it or not, Rashford was in our best 11, De ligt, Mount and Luke Shaw are too we havent had a left back which makes us destined to fail the worst is yet to come from us unfortunately if Erik had compatible people who knew football we wouldn't have to sell the full squad and rebuild once again but that seems to be the task at hand now unfortunately, a long 5 years ahead for us again.
The priority for the last twenty years should have been to chip away at the Debt,seriously forget Ratcliffe and his Stooges,if he had our interests at heart,he’d get out of sailing,Formula 1,Cycling,and sell Nice and concentrate his efforts and wealth on United.the best thing for United would be relegation,maybe then ALL the owners might start thinking about the exit.
Amorim needs time if he can overachieve in Portugal he can succe with better players here but the fans must voice their discontent with the club o match days we want full backing to the manager let him get rid of dead and slowly bring in who will fit his ideology and mentality to take us bk to the top
If the players don't adapt to the system, and we don't spend in January we could genuinely be facing a relegation battle towards the end of the season. We are only 8 points clear as it is.
We were fools Tony, Sir Jim was never totally for building the team up, it was all about money. Build the stadium and then sell. You are 100% right. The directors knew that this manager would not change his tactics and they also knew we didn’t have the players to play that system. If this keeps going on it won’t be long before Rashford comes back and the manager will be out by the summer. Thanks Tom
Thanks for trying to heal the pain for fans. I just think United is a mix of different players from different times and managers. A good team is usually the right players for these times. Players who are from the past-it just doesn't work. Players from these times can't get it to work with past players. Gone is the time when if a player doesn't perform, they have gone
Not angry at all. I was expecting it. What's the option sack another manager? For ages I've said players the ones bough prior ten hag are not up to it. Ine thing though I cannot belive 3-4-3 cannot be played in PL mor can I beljve professionals dont know how to play it. Ffs Sunday league can.
To me , it feels like we have to go as low as is possible until Amorims changes are digested by the team...and ofcourse recruiting players that understand the system. I know its bad at the moment...but lets be optimistic...the signs of progress are definitely evident..
it's been years of clueless transfers, antony, sancho, casemiro etc. on massive wages it was bound to catch up there are some solid players but you cant expect 4-5 players to carry you into a season, season is write-off dont expect anything
Bruno can only play a number 10 from what I can see. Useless anywhere else. All that money spent on onana we could of got a much better keep that commands his box,
IMHO Amorin needs to wait untill he gets the players that can play his style & formation & just tighten up the defence. Otherwise we're guna end up in a relegation battle??🤷♂️
People need to stop obsessing about the system. We don’t have a left side in ANY system. This squad was failing with 4 at the back too. Shaw isn’t fit. Malacia isn’t a premier league level player and Rashford is leaving/not playing. The midfield is soft in any system too. And we lack goal scorers in any system. Trust in Amorim. He’s clearly a quality coach and communicator. He has charisma and a full grasp of the game. He’s also a recent top pro. He’s a huge upgrade on ETH who was unfortunately followed off a cliff, particularly in the transfer market. Amorim is making tough decisions now for the long term so don’t try to force him into short term actions instead. It won’t help us and we’ll be in the same mess next season.
Disappointed with Kieron saying is it time to sound the alarm bells this manager is the real deal unfortunately he has inherited players not good enough and vastly overpaid ineos and Ratcliffe need to put their hands in their pockets with the team and stadium or else what are you here for most players are clearly not good enough but believe in Amorim come on you reds
We've got to stick with this no manager but it's going to but it's going to cost money the glazers will not pay in the house won't pay so what we're going to do we're going to be relegated if we keep losing does that what it takes to get these
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Told you in your pre match preview video there was no way wolves would sit back and let us have the ball.
tony is the best united pundit on any channel. he often says what i'm thinking & saying. we don't always agree. but i love tony's straight forward views that cut through all the BS we hear elsewhere. great to see your channel growing. JG
😂😂😂I'm loving this Crest of a slump ,absolutely loving it 😂😂😂I've seen better players in Sunday league football
When will Tony start to say the player's name (Mazraoui)right? Every single time they talk about the player I cannot finish watching. I just turn it off. I cannot stand how Tony says the player's name, because we all know there is no (MA ZA...) IN THE PLAYER'S FIRST NAME. GET IT RIGHT FOR GOODNESS SAKES.
Could be like the good old days.... Tommy Docs Red and white army
We need to stop sacking world class managers now. This squad is sub-par at best.
Ten hag wasn't world class he bought most of these clowns.
I wouldn't class Eric Tin Pot or Ole as world class. But I feel they weren't the main problem. The damage came from above. None footballing people giving very ordinary mediocre players massive contracts and huge wages. That's what has killed United. Ineos have got to impose a levelling off time. And if that means paying contracts up to get rid of players then so be it. What other Prem club is shoe Horning players like Eriksen.. Anthony. Casemiro. Dalot. Onana into their teams.
World class mangers 😂😂😂😂😂😂funny that
@@tedstan9734reaching 3 out of 4 cup finals with that team is impressive.but you go support ineos and their new yes man based on absolutely nothing,i mean erik ten hag beat him 9-3 over two games in the cl with ajax😂😂
@chrisbal4882 Well Amorim stiffed City for 4. But City banged 5 passed Tin Pots United.
The squad couldn’t play ten hag system the players can’t play Amorim system
. What exactly can they play ? Nothing that’s what
Just watched match of the day highlights, to confirm my initial thoughts from yesterday, Wolves scrapped chased closed down, ours strolled about, disgrace
OK...its depressing at the moment...
But let's get right behind the. Manager....we can all agree this season has gone...Let's not kid ourselves this is a massive undertaking Amorim, let's also remember he's had little time to impose his playing philosophy on the players...many of whom I fear just ain't good enough for his system .
Christ, you're brave 😅
This lack of work rate and effort and dare I say fitness has been missing since Ferguson left. Since he has left every team from every manager has looked lethargic.
As a man utd fan for over 50 years, it saddens me to listen to two fellow fans talking desperation.
It's absolutely shocking what we as fans are watching out the door 🚪 with them simple as that decks need to be cleared big time l think this manager is the business but that's my own opinion it's gone beyond embarrassment now ffs
I too have been supporting United for 50+ years and it saddens me too but it also frightens me. I’m getting ‘74 vibes and I don’t like it. The next five games are crucial, getting points is vital! And of course once the Press smell blood they’ll be on us like vampires. Time to stick together, support the club and be ready for a fight.
I'm 55. I was only 5 in 1974, so I can't remember the relegation year. But I can remember how bad we were in 1989. It was much the same as now. Yeah, it's tough times, but you know what? These are the times when real United fans show their true colours. These are the times when we stick together. Even in those dark days of 1989, I don't remember anyone seriously calling for Fergie's head. The buzz word was 'disillusioned' amongst many fans, but we stuck it out. Which is what we all have to do now. We waited 26 years for a title in 1993. So we're all going to have to do a little bit more waiting. Keep the faith!
@@windowman929 was actually at the Blackburn match the night we won our first premiere league title l actually met Darren Ferguson on the Sunday he was out with friends of his in Manchester watching villa when Oldham beat them lovely guy sound out he was this team now is absolutely horrific and l am a fan forty years have been to Wembley when we lost to villa in the league cup final but we still won the double that season can't believe how bad we are now worst team l have ever seen wearing a united shirt should be ashamed of themselves and that's the truth
ETH realised this and was forced to change his playing style, but these players were not good enough to play any style.
That’s why Im fully behind Amorim, build from the scratch
If you watch the 4-4-2 video on his tactics he didn't actually change anything.
And then he filled the team with players "who can do what I want" and we went backwards.
The fact we have that joker of a keeper being one.
15 of our 25 players we brought in by ETH.
Eth signed enough players.No excuses
@@3DSte1985united didnt go backward because of onana,it was because the highest payed players refuse to take any responsibility bruno rashford casemiro would rather hide behind young players.ten hag realized after 2 games that this man united side can only play 1 way, you cant teach people in their late 20s to play like ajax you baboon
Been supporting Utd. since I was a bright eyed boy in 1981. This is a serious crisis. Deeply troubling times. The mismanagement of the club has been extraordinary. When will this great club be resurrected?
Glazers fault...
They created a culture of player power.
13 years of rot..
They get a free pss now..
You're lucky, being too young to have suffered in 73-74 😢
Definitely a new team first, A new stadium can wait in my opinion.
I think a new division will happen before any of that will.
We just got a new team, 15 of the 25 squad are from ETHs time.
Time to move on from "the coach needs players to do X, Y and Z".
We should be demanding the manager should be getting the best out of what he has.
The formation doesn't work, so scrap it.
I don't think many in this squad want to put the hard yards in. Last season we get leaks saying they don't like the amount of running in training, that says it all about some of them tbh.
The match going fans are the real ones that are suffering they are the ones that pay the price for Ratcliffe’s greed and now this so called storm united are in , RA is here to clean house instead of picking a team capable of winning games and giving the fans something to cheer for
I very much doubt a young ambitious manager like Amorim is here if he doesn't think he can win things. That just does not make sense.
@@andyhxof course he knows. That’s why he took the job. He likes coming from behind and to be the underdog. He went trough the exactly same thing in Sporting. He also got here at mid season and couldn’t do much. But he prepared the team for the next season and won the title with the best defense and one loss only that came after the 1st place was secure. You have a soft and out of shape team. Some players don’t even deserve to dress Man Utd jersey.
Back Amorim and play the u18s please
Do you want the club relegated.?
@@jimwatson7238😂 the teams relegating itself
Wake up matey@@jimwatson7238
@@jimwatson7238 we need players who have balls
Start games with hungry players
Hi lads toon fan here great channel honest like we are i would take a point on Monday expecting a difficult game even though we are playing well anyway best of luck for the rest of the season after Monday👍👍
You'll cruise through it mate. I predict a score of 0-3.
Tony is spot on, really agree with his opinion on most things regarding the team. I think the issue with the players is fitness. Or maybe a basic lack of energy and football intelligence.
Even when fit the players are not physically strong enough or Athletic enough.
Amorim mentioned this in his first week of being here.
We get bullied physically and have done for several years.
To many injury prone, or aging players or the likes of Bruno, Garna, Rashford etc that easily get brushed aside like schoolboys.
@ exactly!
As always top show, brutally honest, MUFC are in big trouble, i was optimistic in August. United made a statement, no incomings in January without sales, worrying times ahead. All very well saying sell, question is who's going to want our overrated overhyped overpaid players.
Amorim's rotation will rotate him right out of the OT front door. Injuries happen, rotation or not. What we need right now is points. We have Newcastle and Liverpool next and zero points from these will put us right down amongst the bottom 5 0r 6 teams. Amorim is a nice guy, but he needs to get selfish. Rashford will be leaving our club, but right now he needs to be in the team between now and his transfer.
Garnacho and Dalot don't have the footballing IQ to know when to pass and when to shoot. The playing out from the back and ability to deal with dead-ball situations is beyond hopeless.
There is so much wrong with the club that dealing with these issues is nigh on impossible.
We need to be selfish and 'use' only the players he trusts - or even doesn't trust, but knows have the best chances of getting us over the line for the next 6 weeks that will make or break his own position as manager.
I would look at players such as Johnny Evans in front of the misfiring ones who will let him down time and time and time again.
The ultimate goal is to get rid of the Glazers - they are a cancer that will eat away at our club even if we turn over a new and more successful leaf over the next 4 or 5 years.
But, for now... Priority number 1 is to get a consistent team playing (injuries will happen) because points on the board is more important than nursing these players... If necessary, play the youngsters every now and again.
Ditch the playing out from the back...
Concentrate on dead ball situations...
Pass the ball forwards and press from the front...
MUFC fans at OT need to turn our ground into a bear pit for opposition teams like they do at other grounds and get on the backs of the referees (who give us absolutely nothing in every game...)
Get a head shrink in, like Paul McKenna to work on the fragile minds of our players... Nothing has worked, so why not try hypnosis on these 'flakes'
At the end of the day I will support my team until my dying breath. Sadly, I no longer expect us to score, let alone win in any of our games...
#saveourteam
#glazersOUT
Yeeeeeeeah... none of that will happen. Championship here you come... and not before time! I mean if you think of it, devaluing the club may be the plan all along - Glazers may finally sell.
@@TheAdArchiveYou may be correct. Thanks to the Glazers we will have to reset... Sadly, that may well be from The Championship. The Glazers used MUFC like they did The Tampa Bay Buccaneers and we allowed them to do it.
I will never forgive them.
The debt in our club is a millstone round our neck and is scarier than our on field performances.
I am praying for the miracle that the Glazers sell up and ship out ASAP.
#glazersOUT
Their is no player any manager feels they can trust and thats the problem.
If theirs mice around food at the club. Then imagine what the training ground must be like might explain why we have so many injuries. Working with alot of youngsters in physical group only makes it even tougher.
This is why every manager fell apart.
We need Glazers to pay off injury prone players in january along with proven goal scorer.
The rest of Glazer signings paid off in summer Ineos replace them.
Best is complete sell to Saudis but that will not happen.
The reason for rotation is to avoid last year’s situation were players were getting injured all the time also although he can’t say it he seeing who needs to go and who he thinks he can work with going to take two or three seasons. If we can get in 5 players by the summer along with a pre season we will look a completely different team.
@@chrisroberts8864I get why he is trying to rotate but when you need points on the board you have to choose your best available players.
If not, why not play the U 21s or the U 18s to safeguard your top squad.
How many points have we gained?
When the Glazers took over, a large section of Utd's traditional support, grounded in the club's culture, left. Manchester Utd is under threat. The culture, the stadium, the mythology, the support. *Do not be fooled by the Ratcliffe facade.*
Ratcliffe is glazers fall guy ….. for sure they in it with same attitude as glazers and dont give a shit about fans … its about revenue streams nothing else
@@mark.isthmusrealtys.a.cost9019100% They don't care about the fans,
Waffle
2 games??? The next 3 games are going to to be horrendous.
Amorins tactics will work, wolves played a 343 and beat us.
Dalot is shit and needs selling. Amorin will get this right, but patience is needed. Ratcliffe doesn't have eyes elsewhere the team is the priority. But PSR stops that. We're not playing FM25.
Dalot isn't shit. But he's a right back, nothing more. He was one of our best players last season as a right back. He might not be able to play in the new system, I agree. But as a right back he was very good last season. He's shit as a left wing back, I would agree with you there!
It drives me mad saying the players can’t play the system there professional footballers . We play Sunday league football and we are just average footballers who actually pay subs to play and we can play the system easy and we play other systems . Our players just don’t want to play different systems because of there lazy attitude, but there still happy to pick up there wages . It’s a disgrace the players are just not good enough obviously. Great show as always lads .
We played 3-5-2 in Sunday League. I was wingback! That was a bloody hard shift! You had to be the fittest player in the team to play there! Up and down the whole length of the pitch for 90 minutes!
The Glazers and Ratcliff are Cowboys Builders trying to do the job as cheap as possible and maximising profits
Anyone see Garnacho for the 2nd Wolves goal? If that was Rashford...would you have the same energy? Where is Garnacho's reaction to being benched for the City game? Just mardy on the pitch and the way he gave the ball away was a disgrace
I been saying he got to go
Everyones hyped him up to be this next big superstar and hes fallen for his own hype. Bang average at best
@MH-vp7lf And the official club propaganda around Garnacho was embarrassingly OTT. Daft.
@tenfour2215 tbh, we poached the kid from the Atleti academy (in the pre Brexit days. Post Brexit...that loop hole is no longer there). Be fitting in a way...him ending up at Atleti.
Just wished we kept players like Elanga...he would be great under Ruben
He needs selling, not good enough s
Ratcliffe isn't much of a fan if he thinks that rinsing yr fanbase is the way to go with such crazy ticket prices.
He literally had a Chelsea season ticket how are people still faling for the "hes a United fan"
Just because hes from manchester and talked about 199?
Yep he's priced me my daughter and son out now , it's FC United for us from now on , enjoy the game get good grub and local fans
How are you going to get players out on the wages they are on. They are just going to run their long contracts down, and the club is obliged to pay them whether they perform or not. The club has been run like a circus, and they will be a lot more pain before things change!
if you have no players that can play a manager system, and that manager is inflexible in his approach, why appoint that manager???????????
Because the players we have aren’t good. Why should he change his system to suit the players? The absolute MOST you’d get out of this squad is what ? 5th/6th?
We are the smallest, one of if not the youngest, definitely the most unatheltic, and non technical team in the league? Why persist with trying to get the best out of these players??? We also have hardly any leadership among the players and definitely ZERO accountability
I’d rather take some pain, and actually establish a system rather than the chaos ball we have played for 5 years. Please please please use your brains
@@evancave1287 I agree with your paras 1+2. Not many would agree with para 3. There are many systems - why pick the one least suited to the players at your disposal. Oh, and it is a results business - Amorim will not last long enough to see your dreamworld come true. It will be 4-4 bloody 2 by Feb 25.
@@evancave1287well said
Are you saying bring Erik Ten Hag back?
Not building a new stadium doesn't mean we could use the money to buy players
Exactly, stadium investment will not affect the transfer kitty.
Planning permission etc will take years anyway, it's not something that needs "putting on hold" it'll never get built. 😂
I love Tony and Kieran but let's not go down the moaning at everything route without any logic behind it.
Amorim told us a storm was coming, he knows it's a major job to rebuild this squad.
Some of these fans and channels think a few tweaks and Amorim waving a magic wand fixes everything are deluded.
Time and patience is needed instead of moaning how shit we are.
First and foremost this squad is physically not upto the battles and that's clear to see for anyone who isn't blind.
Ugarte was the only player who won a high percentage of his duels yesterday, both Bournemouth and Wolves both dominated us physically and no amount of coaching or systems will overcome this problem.
Amorim has already mentioned this that we don't have enough "athletes" in the squad.
It is mainly a personel issue and I don't believe it's always as simple as the other side "wanted it more" that's to simplistic although at times some players like Rashford have been a disgrace regarding the lack of effort shown.
The crazy thing is that it's not exactly a new phenomenon, Jose introduced the likes of Essien and the Drogbas etc
big strong powerful players that could win the duels first then get the ball down and play football.
Amorim isn't papering over the cracks, he's going to rip the woodchip of and knock all the blown plasterwork of and go back to brick.
Edersen is a must for this midfield alongside Ugarte because Kobbie and Bruno looked like schoolboys yesterday.
Kobbies lack of pace and mobility is also starting to concern me, hopefully Amorim can find a solution for him in the system.
💯% spot on. Seems people have not realized it yet. Seeing the money generated by the new Hot Spurs stadium,The Glazers wanted to build a new stadium by leveraging more debt on United. Fanbase went mental and their public image got tarnished. Now come INEOS and Sir Jim Radcliffe, the lackey who will do the dirty work, whether we like it or not. They have already show how ruthless they are. Here is their plan:
- reduce players wage bills by phasing out ageing players on huge salaries (rahsford, casimero, luke shaw and Co.)
- increase revenue through better commercial deals, one of INEOS strong suit.
- Fall under PSR threshold and present better financial statements to obtain the loan needed to build the new stadium.
They will be a lot of broken eggs in that process. So Buckle up United fans, we are in for a ride in the next 3 to 5 years
Why we not improving on set pieces? Simple question...why is it not being addressed? We just conceded 2 goals, in 3 games, direct from a corner.
When in the last 5 0r 10 seasons have United conceded direct from a corner? Very worrying signs. These coaches are too naive. No nouse around any of them
Yep - needs 3 years minimum, players need to show some pride and passion 👍
The old, injured, can’t be arsed and just can’t do it is not a Man Utd team. Wolves looked like a team we want to be. Unable to beat the bottom of the table team says everything .
Unless Ruben changes his tactics , which obviously the current players can't adapt to , fans will be paying £66 next season to watch championship football .it's survival football that is a necessity. Keep us in the Premier league and start your new process in the close season, or else he will be playing 3 at the back at millwall, Luton etc etc
Luton play 3 at the back this season..... and look how bad they are doing.
No way he should have to change his playing style or the players win again
Love the channel lads
Tony spot on I thought the same we did play well against Aston Villa.
I have been watching Ineos for many years, not only their sports interests, but their core chemicals business. And it all comes back to Ratcliffe. Regardless of the world class talent he hires, to survive in his organisation they have to become world class 'yes men'. And if I could be so bold, I would not trust Ratcliffe as far as I could spit. Such is my trust in him.
In my personal opinion anyone who is even beginning to question Amorim seriously needs to take a long hard look at themselves.
The entire fanbase needs to accept what needs to happen as a club. Until the fanbase matures, grows up and actually understands what is fundamentally wrong with the team then we are going no where.
Fans who sit there and question a manager after a month because there are “red flags” are one of the main reasons why this club has been allowed to fail so spectacularly over the past decade.
People seriously need to give their heads a wobble and prepare themselves for pain. It’s going to get a hell of a lot worse before it gets better.
I respect everybody’s opinion and everyone is entitled to it but this sort of opinion is going to be so detrimental to the future of Amorim and what he is trying to achieve.
If we cant completely back Amorim then we might as well just stop right now, sack Amorim and bring in Gareth Southgate.
Absolutely true!! Too many Plastics.
He's got a lot to do to convince me, results worse than ETH
@@GingahBish23 well said.
@@richyclubsport5155
Ive spoken to you before. I already know the level you are operating at so it doesn’t surprise me.
@@richyclubsport5155
Im sure Amorim is extremely worried by this.
Onana needs to go but why are other clubs allowed to swarm and block and foul our GK’s like with De Gea also but if we do it it’s a fkn foul ???🤔🤬😡🤬😡
Bournemouth first goal was a disgrace. Bad decisions can have a impact on sides with low confidence and high expectations.
Same script...No money.....Needs time.....wrong players.. it's never been this bad..... Young players being ruined by senior players attitude.... spend big or sell the club
5:29. It won’t happen till the summer time. That’s what everybody said last summer, and how did that go?
Football is about winning points, the manager shouldn't be so stubborn as to insist upon a system that doesn't get the best out of his players.
Points are money
Now you see why some of us were Qatar in.
Do you mean the fairytale state backed bid from Qatar fronted by Jassim?
The one that didn't provide the necessary proof of funds requested by the Rayne group that was necessary for the bid to proceed?
Oil me up! I wanted the fairytale ending as well initially.
Maybe Elon Musk can save us next time or Apple.
Now I see another dreamer
We need players who can play football together as a football team.
Why don't Amorim try 4- 4-2, at least give it a go to be honest we are going to play like this until the end of the season?
Because coaches are stubborn and in top of that Amorim is ignorant and clueless. I don't think he ever watched the Premier League even on TV
He already answered that ... What's the point of kicking the can down the round?
Shut up and let him play 3 4 3
You shut up you are talking crap@@aathamazhiqi3481
@@eddyholguin3468 who are you those players were playing what position under Oli under te hag. You’re clueless. It’s not a system problem.
My main concern with continuing to play the formation is the opponent’s know our weakness well in advance, you can see it game on game !!
I would say we need 9 players who can play the 3-4-3 at the minute it’s best to go back to ETH formations and scrape an odd win !! We need 18-24 points to stay up
Hi guys this is why i wanted full sale ratcliffe kept the glazers in only interested in money ineos glazers do one😢
We are still using Evans who played for Sir Alex what does that say about the Squad?
If we dont have the players to play the system amorim plays, why did we get him
I have more and more the feeling we got amorim so shitty dont get him
I see Ratcliffe the same way as the glazers, all about the money and nothing about the supporters, and as for the players they couldn't even be bothered to property acknowledge the away fans after the wolves game, no heart, no pride no guts. Where's the points coming from ?
You guys signed a Michelin star chef and and gave him turds for ingredients... I'm sorry, but, Dalot, Onana, Bruno Fernandes, Casemiro, Lindelof, Evans, Rashford, Garnacho, Antony, Malacia, Martinez , Shaw and Mount need to GO ASAP. They are simply not good enough, we are MANCHESTER UNITED! Not even Ancelotti or Kloop could do anything with these players. Open the fk wallet and get players who can be intense on the ball and can run like dogs for 90 minutes!
Fernandes is a world class player so I refuse to criticize him. He has always been fully committed. Conceding 2 goals directly from corners unbelievable. Lack of belief causing rash decisions.
He hasn't behaved like a world-class player this season. He has been far from it. Fernandez is supposed to set a good example to the young players at the club.
How can you refuse to criticise him when some of his behaviour is literally atrocious. If Keane was on that pitched he'd have punched him for how h behaves. He's literally like a petulant child.
World class, he wouldn't make the team in any top side, be on the bench if he was lucky, massively overrated overhyped overpaid and no leadership
At this point might as well bring up the best academy players...
Saw the same problem under LVG. Amorim probably saw we were losing duels and 2nd ball being out fought. And they’re doing what Di’Maria was guilty of doing and got himself set off. Fighting for the ball means committing not blooming fouling and being desperate
If the guy can't recognise that 3-4-3 doesn't work with this group of players & still persists in playing it. déjà vu of INEOS signing, now we know how well that turned out to be..
What system were they playing under 10 Hag? Under Oli ?
Excellently put..totally agree. Need to turn on my notificaruons for your channel lsds, missed 2 great vids this week. All the best for 25
Southgate wouldn't touch it with a barge pole and neither will many others
Big Jim going to bed with the Glazers is going to be the tipping point if we ever get relegated £66 in the Championship 😂, Onana, Bruno , Dalot will be dropped or rather sold oh including the 350k a week jogging Casemiro out.
Big Jim just messed things up, his stadium 🏟️ nonsense won’t help at this stage upgrading is the only option, no pre-season what did they expect? Miracles turn water into wine 🍷 impossible. Thanks again gents. Happy new year to everyone who supports Manchester United 🇨🇦🇨🇦🇨🇦🇨🇦
great analysis as usual by Tony. we need a performance like the one at Villa that Tony rightly applauds in these next 2 matches against Newcastle & Liverpool. If Ruben stubbornly sticks to his formula and refuses to come up with Pan B i fear we will be embarrassed by both newcastle and liverpool. and then we go to arsenal in the cup potetially dragged into a a real crisis. I've said this on my channel and I'd like to be wrong. But these players can't do what ruben is demanding. Tomy is 100% correct. we have to adapt. JG
i trust in Amorim i feel sorry for him,the poor guy now is believing what a shit show he has let himself for UTID
What formation or style of play can these players actually play? I am dead serious with this question, because we have had all the styles since sir alex and i can list them all if needed but we can’t successfully play any of them. Tell me what style or formation we can play that we will win with this squad because imo after all the different styles tried and failed the answer is we aren’t good enough as a squad to play any of them and win regularly.
Great show. GLAZERS / INEOS OUT!
The stubbornness regarding the 3-4-3 is killing us. There’s a stand off because the players either can’t do it or won’t do it
So they were so good under ten hag with 4:2:3:1? You’re a clown
NO SPINE PLUS THEY CAN'T PLAY THE SYSTEM !
INEOS TOOK STUPID GAMBLE FOR THIS MANAGER WITH THESE PLAYERS. SHOULD HAVE KEPT RVN UNTIL END OF SEASON.
PREPARE FOR MORE...
How is the building of a stadium going to effect the playing staff, the stadium should be built on the money naming rights
Tony's right everything he says is spot on great knowledge mate
I tried to say our target was 40 pts, anything else is just unrealistic. Our attack is abysmal fellas, £180M on Hojlund, Zirkzee and Antony, can you believe that? None of them carry any threat what so ever.
The defending at corners could be sorted out by any pub team coach,they stand flat footed defending zones like subutteo players,Zones don’t score goal’s players do,man on each post and man to man marking put your man under pressure and attack the ball,part of the problem is we’re a small weak team,every team we play out muscle us completely,I’m not turning on Amorim but he has to take a lot of blame.
Rubin Amorim has no experience in a relegation battle and its showing....we just need results now and its not the time to tinkle with the start up and lose. People look at the Leeds united team that got relegated in 2003-04 they had Alan smith and Mark Viduka up front with Paul Robinson in goal. You telling me this United team cant be relegated.....?
Has to move Amad back to the right wing back surely, so at least we have one! Mazraoui left side. Dont want to see Rashfords mate there either. Ericson and Zirkzee as the 10's. Im actually looking forwards to no Fernandez, it cant get any worse, what is there to lose. At least we have a shouut from corners and free kicks without him! Prey Rashford is never seen again, Garnacho similair, no longer care, weak and isnt trying.
Bruno and Mainoo are not delivering
That lineup is exactly what I'd go for too mate👍🏻
Arsenal Fan . Love the show lads . Talking absolute Sense
Can't say I'm surprised that it's already at the Amorim/Amor-out stage with these reactionary internet fans. One minute they're declaring we've signed the Messiah, next minute he is useless, all whilst ignoring the same players are still playing.
Lot of sense spoke here about Ineos and the direction the club seem to be taking, Big Jim seems to be more of a problem than a saviour in my eyes,
Hi lads great live as always we want to see see effort from the players and it's a disgrace and a shambles but still behind ruben 💯 per cent love United ❤️ hate dirty jim ineos 2.0 glazers and dirty glazers
Please explain why he's glazers 2.0
Kieron you should do post match reaction also please,.. would like to get your thoughts on the matches as well... Thanks,..🔰🇿🇦 from South Africa!
Totally agree mate. Now that Webby's gone AWOL I'd like to hear more from Kieron👍🏻
Ruben must take responsibility for these defensive lapses from set pieces, wtf are the defenders doing, it's easy to blame Onana, but he's definitely not getting protection from the defence currently.
Anyone saying Amorim needs to go needs to wind their neck in. The players are the problem. We need a firesale. Doesn't matter if they are good players either. It whether they can play the system and excel at it that matters. Very few of them are even capable let alone good at it. Bruno is one of them. Great player, not in this system though.
Amorim should not change his system because he will never be able to go back to it. They players will know they have won if he does!!
Onana works best when hes got consistent defence. Rotation doesn't help Onana at all.
I agree Tony we need a clear out
Ratcliffe couldn't give a shit about manchester united like see what Xmas bonus he had we need another 3 or 4 million to spend on new players where we getting that from and who would want to come to us.
Whether you like it or not, Rashford was in our best 11, De ligt, Mount and Luke Shaw are too we havent had a left back which makes us destined to fail the worst is yet to come from us unfortunately if Erik had compatible people who knew football we wouldn't have to sell the full squad and rebuild once again but that seems to be the task at hand now unfortunately, a long 5 years ahead for us again.
Let Man united get Relegated,but don't cheaply bring in fkin stupid view like Rashford,he is the worst footballer in the whole squad.
Thank you, thank you lads for telling it the way it is. You are always my go to for proper analysis and honesty
The priority for the last twenty years should have been to chip away at the Debt,seriously forget Ratcliffe and his Stooges,if he had our interests at heart,he’d get out of sailing,Formula 1,Cycling,and sell Nice and concentrate his efforts and wealth on United.the best thing for United would be relegation,maybe then ALL the owners might start thinking about the exit.
Amorim needs time if he can overachieve in Portugal he can succe with better players here but the fans must voice their discontent with the club o match days we want full backing to the manager let him get rid of dead and slowly bring in who will fit his ideology and mentality to take us bk to the top
The system doesn’t suit the players we’ve got. Why keep playing it? Give 442 a go
No formation will work with players who won't run. ETH changed , Ralf changed and all got sacked because these players are not good enough.
The players can't play any system decently though
If the players don't adapt to the system, and we don't spend in January we could genuinely be facing a relegation battle towards the end of the season. We are only 8 points clear as it is.
I wanted Qatar , anybody else wish we had them now
We were fools Tony, Sir Jim was never totally for building the team up, it was all about money. Build the stadium and then sell. You are 100% right. The directors knew that this manager would not change his tactics and they also knew we didn’t have the players to play that system. If this keeps going on it won’t be long before Rashford comes back and the manager will be out by the summer.
Thanks Tom
Big Sam might come in and save you 😂😂😂
Thanks for trying to heal the pain for fans. I just think United is a mix of different players from different times and managers. A good team is usually the right players for these times. Players who are from the past-it just doesn't work. Players from these times can't get it to work with past players. Gone is the time when if a player doesn't perform, they have gone
Well, if think about what saying Webby current squad can't play Amorim's 3-4-3, so biggest problem right now is Amorim
Not angry at all. I was expecting it. What's the option sack another manager? For ages I've said players the ones bough prior ten hag are not up to it. Ine thing though I cannot belive 3-4-3 cannot be played in PL mor can I beljve professionals dont know how to play it. Ffs Sunday league can.
How much do you think a prawn sandwich will cost in the championship???
But we've got no money so we can't buy his way out of it so what do we do
To me , it feels like we have to go as low as is possible until Amorims changes are digested by the team...and ofcourse recruiting players that understand the system.
I know its bad at the moment...but lets be optimistic...the signs of progress are definitely evident..
it's been years of clueless transfers, antony, sancho, casemiro etc. on massive wages
it was bound to catch up
there are some solid players but you cant expect 4-5 players to carry you into a season, season is write-off dont expect anything
Amorim is a terrible fit for this united side. Should of stayed with Ruud until the summer because Amorim can't manage this lot
100% agree
Bruno can only play a number 10 from what I can see. Useless anywhere else. All that money spent on onana we could of got a much better keep that commands his box,
IMHO Amorin needs to wait untill he gets the players that can play his style & formation & just tighten up the defence. Otherwise we're guna end up in a relegation battle??🤷♂️
People need to stop obsessing about the system. We don’t have a left side in ANY system. This squad was failing with 4 at the back too. Shaw isn’t fit. Malacia isn’t a premier league level player and Rashford is leaving/not playing. The midfield is soft in any system too. And we lack goal scorers in any system.
Trust in Amorim. He’s clearly a quality coach and communicator. He has charisma and a full grasp of the game. He’s also a recent top pro. He’s a huge upgrade on ETH who was unfortunately followed off a cliff, particularly in the transfer market. Amorim is making tough decisions now for the long term so don’t try to force him into short term actions instead. It won’t help us and we’ll be in the same mess next season.
Disappointed with Kieron saying is it time to sound the alarm bells this manager is the real deal unfortunately he has inherited players not good enough and vastly overpaid ineos and Ratcliffe need to put their hands in their pockets with the team and stadium or else what are you here for most players are clearly not good enough but believe in Amorim come on you reds
Absolutely. If there's real belief there then invest. Safe in the knowledge that you will get it back in spades. Win-win.
The wolves manager hasn't had to change much at all it's the same system we have changed it completely didn't you hear what he said last night
We've got to stick with this no manager but it's going to but it's going to cost money the glazers will not pay in the house won't pay so what we're going to do we're going to be relegated if we keep losing does that what it takes to get these
Stick with manager, changes need to be implemented so lets hope SJR backs it up with action.
ineos has taken us backwards
Buy vardy for the season