1JZ vs LS - What's the Better Engine Swap? (In Depth Comparison)
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The team over at Excel Motorworks gave me the awesome opportunity to do one of the most fun comparisons ever! The LS and the 1JZ are two of the most popular engine swaps when it comes to the Nissan 240SX. Today we go through the benefits of each - one with a big turbo 1JZ making 420WHP and a naturally aspirated LS making 420WHP. What has the best for your buck? Which creates an emotional response? Which one is more fun to drive? Today we answer ALL of these questions and find out which engine swap is right for you! Thanks for watching and new uploads on Tuesday, Thursday, and Sundays!
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The choo choo or the vroom vroom.
Where is the S13 coupe? please do update!
Love rolling thunder in my LS2, its factory, but I still clap!
Keep up the fantastic content!
What about the Zoom Zoom?
Both
Considering the LS3 is emissions compliant. I'm going to have to side with AMERICA!
David,let's be realistic here...Everyone pulls the stock motor out and never replaces it with anything else,they just list it for sale
Lol so true...so glad I still have the truck engine in my s13 tho....can't wait to boost that
LOL soooo true! My s13 still stock motor, even with the auto trans. Have everything to 5 speed swap but don’t want to do it yet lol I enjoy it just how it is.
@@mintyzee3000 awesome...you enjoy your car the way you want bro...David also did a few reviews on turbo KA's...the red s13 was a beast...KA's are the underdogs and nobody seems to want them...even David regretted getting rid of his KA after he saw the power potential
@@SuperMaxCarp have u done it yet ? I really want to
@@andrikmartinez1214 sorry brother, life hits hard. We were blessed with twins by God's amazing Grace...so all my funds are going towards the kids.. I had to put the car and motor build on hold. For now I'm enjoying life with my twins and couldn't be happier
All I can say is for people who use those LED array bars on the street:
Don't
Why
@@nathanielrenteria9669 because it's annoying asf and can be seriously dangerous because it blinds you and you can't see anything around you
@@nathanielrenteria9669 There is no aiming the beam pattern like a projector or reflective housing. The light it produces shoots in every direction, blinding everyone on the road.
Was popular at first, then it wasnt, people got the idea when they started getting shot up at night.
I never run my bars on the street. Big dick move man
I used to have an LS swapped S13 years ago. We used to call it the “Poorvette”. Broke many hearts of sports car owners.
If you can find a 1990 or so Supra, they had super comfy interior.
Single cam junk
@@mikeroshop8913 Makes as more power than 1jz or 2jz so… ls makes more power
@@fsl3242 yea but the 1j and 2j make more power easier just up the boost or swap it out and bigger injectors, but you hopped on the single cam junk bandwagon cause it's trendy, all good man
@@mikeroshop8913 Ls makes more power stock, they are better for a cheaper price. Even DuddeInBlue said it, i would rather have a 1jz, but ls are better for the money
Always said this, always will. LS builds are for budget builds (which is why they’re so prevalent in the modified scene, they’re dirt cheap to mod and make huge power), and the more traditional inline-6 builds (1 or 2J, RB series, etc) are for the guys with big money. Love both.
Don’t forget that the N54 and N55 is becoming a player in the tuning community too :) it is also a bit unreliable in some aspects but it’s a solid platform just not JDM or USDM
You're crazy if you haven't seen some insane high dollar race/street trim LS builds 😂. If you've never heard of Lingenfelter get yourself acquainted.
@@thedoctormma9433
It's possible for two things to be true at the same time. LS, in general, is a cheap engine to build. It's also true that you can dump ridiculous money into an LS.
@@177SCmaro Indeed. Because bigger engine and displacement its easier to get power. I own a 00 C5 with ls1 all I did was stage 3 cam, long headers, ls6 intake and tune already its at 409rwhp
Then came along the k serries and turned the world upside down. up to 500hp can't be beat.
Just by how the cars look I thought the s14 had the ls and the s13 had the jz
I was correct with my guess, when I saw the side exit exhaust it confirmed my guess
It’s the spoiler the that made me assume the s13 had the JZ
The bomber art really made me think ls
You can't beat the sound of that 1JZ through. It just sounds too good.
@Justen G nah there are way better sounding v8s out there. 1jz is arguably the best sounding inline 6
@Justen G yea thats probably one of the best sounding v8s out there. I also love high revving ferrari v8s.
I mean I’ve heard better sounding explosive diarrhea than a 1jz or 2jz.
@@BigBagOfFrikenAirFak your ears must not be working properly then
I like the sound of the JZ but the best sounding engine for me has to be a carbureted L28! Search "Datsun 240Z L28 w/ Triple Mikunis" for a good demo.
"Should've gone LS..."
"You take that back!"
My decision was SR. For ease of fitment, a stock look, and for what my power goals in a weekend toy were. For a track car, the V8 makes more sense, for a show car I would go RB.
Yeah I don’t understand the 1j the LS, RB, Sr20 or coyote swaps are superior in every way
@@chelly9456 coyote. Gross
That cop at 8:13 made me scared on your behalf about getting an exaust ticket in someone else’s car.
He doesn't live in California I'm sure he's not worried
In ga, you exhaust can pretty much be as loud as you'd like. Lol
Never been here so fast
Same lol
As you were introducing both cars I was running down a list in my head of all the objective reasons the LS is the no brained choice: cheaper/easier to source, simpler/more reliable without boost, more aftermarket support in the US etc…. And as soon as you pulled out with the 1JZ and heard it, thought to myself “yep. That’s why right there.”
A smaller turbo on the 1JZ would make a big difference in responsive feel compared to the LS, even if it would have lower peak HP. Cool comparison!
Just downshift.
@Jihad Pack Its not such a big deal in the lower hp range but if fast boost is necessary a supercharger can take care of any needed displacement.
Its wallet vs preference really
Torque and responsiveness is very important
Skip the small turbo bs and just get a vvti engine. It will spool the same turbo much quicker then the non vvti version
You could add a turbo or supercharger and the ls is still cheaper
I would go LS because of where I'm at in life at the moment. 1JZ if I was more well off and could afford it lol.
what's funny is that you can rip out a old Vortec from a Silverado and bam
Personally I'd go 1j just so I can learn more about these engines, im more of a modular ford kinda guy but I've always found 1 and 2j's real exciting.
Love this review David. Not sure if you'll get to see this but I'd love to see a comparison like this for the K20 swap vs the SR20 swap. I think it'd be interesting as they can be used as FWD, RWD and AWD platforms. I'd love to hear your thoughts. Love from Jamaica.
Anybody else see the fast & furious 9 comercial for the first time during the middle of this video?
I saw the new nissan 400z add watching this and I think it was a sign
I love the way you explain the 1j noise. I remember my buddy in high school had a Toyota soarer his dad imported and he revved that thing. I instantly thought “that’s the way the cars in fast and furious sound!” Exact sound. Maybe the most beautiful sounding engine I’ve heard.
Honestly, w/ the skyrocketing prices of JZ swaps, the LS will be the next best thing.
1UZ: So I don't exist now, do I?
😂😂😂😂 love the 1UZ comment
LS: Match up with the aftermarket support, then you can join the conversion.
Both amazing engines. But being able to pick up a complete LS engine for $400 is really hard to beat.
Depends on what LS you get
It’s also least likely to blow up on an ls. Stronger motor.
@@munkskyline17 even a 5.3 will be a great engine.
I got an ls3 for 400$ at the junkyard 👀 it’s going inside my 135i
Dude wtf did you find an ls3 for 400$!? Whats your secret bro??@@ThaHammieJaassee
About 5 years ago I saw 1jz on eBay for $1100 and 2jz for $2500. Sadly it’s not even worth it anymore, like 7-8k for a 2jzgte last time I looked
Don't forget that the R154 is close to running those prices. Don't even think about trying to find a V160, that alone is like 5K by itself.
@@THEgameDeity that’s crazy, probably why everyone goes cd009. I have a Colorado 5 speed in my turbo s10 which is pretty much a r154/ax15 but like $300. I’ve seen jz guys using ar5’s out of solstice and slingshots.
And then you’re still looking at tearing that motor down before it goes into a car if you’re smart. A brand new Chevy performance center crate LS3 costs that. You’d honestly be better off buying an OEM 2j short block brand new and buying a ported head from one of the various shops if you want to go the 2J route. The other thing to consider is weight. People seem to forget that a 2J typically weighs around 100lbs more than your 5.3 aluminum block LS and it’s also going to sit higher in the bay. That’s a big deal.
I’d rather have a turbo LS for most of the reasons you listed. I lived in Northern Japan from 2001 to 2004 and saw all the Japanese scenes before fast and furious took off. Each have their own place
LS TT 370z. That's what I have. The available parts are amazing for the engine, but anything performance isn't "cheap".
How you spend on the motor and which LS do you have?
which LS?
@@sleepervq605 LC9 Aluminum block, 4.8 and completely built w/ a built 4L80e. Sorry, Just saw this comment.
@@merc2ss LC9 Aluminum block, 4.8 and completely built w/ a built 4L80e
Great vid man! I always said the only other motor I'd ever want besides my LS would be a 1J or 2J 😂 they absolutely make the best sounds known to man!
Running Kouki, pulled the SR20 for a 6L LS swap. I wanted something that was ON all the time for weekend cruising, nothing more frustrating than JUST cruising about and needing to punch it for a split second and get a foot full of nothing with turbo. This is the sole reason I didn't go a VE build on the SR, so much money and very unique for a high strung weekend cruiser trying to get me into trouble. LS = fun all the time at all speeds, Turbo = fun while hooning about; but do enjoy the choo choo noises :D
1JZ swapped S13 and LS swapped S14. Then RB26 swapped S15. S chassis dream garage. Awesome Vid!
I would argue a cam and .30 over on the LS would rival the “character” but I agree with your premise overall. One of your best vids. I’ll hit the bell
Had both a LS and 1jz in my 240sx , I blew up my ls but was cheaper to build another one, and the 1jz lasted longer but was a harder to find parts and more expensive.
What you got now? Lsa Sound is growing on me but I do love a JZ
@@ssjdavid sold it , but I bought a 280z and put a 1jz in it . I love the sound of a raspy 1j with turbo flutter
Easier to figure out , if something breaks do you want to be able to go to your local parts store and pickup said part ( LsX ) or hope that the store has the parts that it shares with a 2jz ( 1jz ) love both engines just ones more practical then the other.
My ears like the 1j. 2j. And all RB. But I like to work on my own vehicles so I went with a ls swap for my truck because of the simplicity of the design
Having owned both no doubt LS is super easy to work on . The 2j especially when you put an aftermarket intake and single turbo exhaust manifold they are really easy to work on as well.
Glad that you pointed out that swaps are an investment, in all senses of the words. Even SR swaps, which require little to no modification to the driveline or chassis to work, isn't plug n' play.
Whatever choice one do, either going with modifying the KA, which is now getting some love after being harshly treated as a "truck engine", or going LS, which some of its cheaper variants many use are literally truck engines, is one's choice and should not be criticized.
That goes for the oddball swaps, like SBC, SBF, SBM, Gen III Hemis, L28s, CA18, and even the 13B.
I understand that a regular 5.3 stock ls doesn’t sound that great but not all ls’s sound the same . But all it takes to make a ls sound nasty is a cam. I love the sound of a nasty ls
The license plate on my 240 is "KA24DET". Would you like to guess where I stand on this issue?
Once I've seen an s13 with a CA18DET engine drifting on touge. That left me with wrong impression that it was swapped or something. Cuz I don't remember SR's being this smoky and torqy.
Domestic for me. I like that potent low end torque and wide power band. Turbos are awesome, but there is a reason I sold my supra and got a redeye
You messed up
@@olajimimark nah. I made 50k in profit on top of the redeye.
1jz s13 def emotional route my pockets haven’t stopped crying yet
I'm putting an ls in my current project but I love s13's and I'd say 1JZ all day! It's just part of the experience of one of those cars!
A Toyota engine is part of the experience for a Nissan? I’d understand if you said that about an RB swap or something
@@chelly9456 turbo import motor sounds and characteristics are part of the experience. I think an rb would be an even better more authentic experience but if you live here in the states like I do, those rb parts are just harder to find so Toyota engines just make more sense.
1JZ=tickets to a Cruiseship. More of a quality type of leisure activity.
LS=tickets to a movie with friends. More of a budgeted yet equally pleasing leisure activity.
My 2011 Colorado ZQ8 came with a 5.3 from the factory, its my dream truck and im gonna do my dream build street truck, getting my wheels and coilovers soon then probably work on getting a built tranny. Not going for anything crazy, just a lil street truck to play with sportcars in the wild.
Its all the fun of a car but its a mini truck and a V8. Im very lucky to have it and its the only thing in my life i will ever brag about. Not that its worth a whole lot but just the fact that they are rare trucks and it was my dream truck.
Before I found it my dream truck was an s10 Xtreme with a 1jz swap! But ive been a chevy guy my entire life and love v8s.
Ls is cool but 1jz on gate is the stuff dreams are made of!
Why on the gate? You can get more boost with electric boost controllers if set up correctly on the gate you can’t go past gate pressure
@@chelly9456 sorry for the confusion. I was referring to big single turbo 1jz’s with external wastegates. They can have bigger springs installed to increase boost aswell but yes electronic boost controllers are awesome aswell
86 Boxer just to make the haters mad
Definitely a d15 if you wanna do that
I have a Rb26Det 240sx. Need to see how it matches up.
I would pick the 1J even tho like you said its gonna be more pain in the butt finding parts when things break but the sounds just waves out everything especially when turbo starts spoiling its a never ending smile jz motors sounds aggressive
In the end it's worth it imo
@UCrLWGKbEmNoY0hoA5UIPS9A yeah with a fat ass cam
There’s an ls1 swapped s2k on facebook marketplace rn that’s too clean to believe it’s being sold. Would love to have it even though I’d love to have it with the F20 in it
I would say the LS I love both engines but the LS will be way less expensive to build and parts are relatively easy to find for it
Plus its many pounds lighter, shorter, and aluminum for better cooling.
false, SR20 is superior
i love the little look back in the mirror to see if that sheriff in the back ground noticed you xD Im always on the look out haha
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I been watching this guy love his true honesty he's so honest he tell you how he feel about import s cars love this guy
when it comes to engine swaps I'm a euro boy at heart I gotta go with a vr6 swap if I was gonna pull a switcheroo on my power plant
Was going to go 1jz but the prices got ridiculous, so I ended up going with an ls1 out of c5 corvette for my s13, where I previously had a redtop sr20det
So only 78k out of 1m people actually have the notifications on thankfully I am a part of the 78k 'cause I love watching your videos
Man, just hearing that gorgeous purrr of the turbo when he is speaking🤤🤤
I can tell your in buford/flowery branch,ga. So cool your reviewing cars in my area. Like my friends k20 awd integra. Love the channel.
Interested to see a comparison between the Lexus UZ engine and the Nissan RB.
Curious to know where the Ford Barra would land too
ryan litteral has entered the chat...with his RB
If you’ve ever heard Tuerks 1J hatch from off seasons 2 you’d know that 1Js can sound absolutely ridiculous
Hi.
Keep it Nissan.
RB, SR, KA.
Goodbye
VK?
Vk's are sick
@@BrandoLV13 True that. I wanted to do one in my Foxbody Mustang, but it would have been too much money and work for a platform that doesn't have that much NA potential here in the US
Counterpoint: no
Ls: sound performance and price!
I know right!? He's all talking about how the JZ has a more interesting sound. PFFFT. Gimme Chevy power any day.
LS for parts but I love turbo sounds more lol
Turbo ls, best of both worlds
Can't beat the smoothness and balance of the jz's.
V8s are more emotional for me but still appreciate all the other cool motors of the world!
7:52 there's a white mk5 supra in the back 😂😂😂
The LS swap is better. 5.3/6.0/6.2 engines are everywhere. Cam swap and you have 400+ hp and every Oreillys has parts for them.
Should keep eyes open for a vh/vk swap s chassis.. Not many out there, but they're incredible
Lol i wonder how the 240sx purist's are doing rn😂😂
Don't mind it both swaps are dope
@Dante Reimann yeah but if you ask me I only think they should have sr20's or ca's nothing else
@Dante Reimann nice! guessing it sounds godly
Over the last 15 years i've seen countless people start out with the CA which everyone knows is junk, eventually transition to SR's, realize it's still junk and breaks down because at the end of the day it's still a Nissan. People love the look of them, they dont want to deal with the motors.
I feel some type of way to be completely honest
I love the noise of my turbo on my GLI it's the most beautiful smooth an badasss sounding thing
I had a audi S3 an had fun with it but lord was it expensive 2 fix an do add ons vs on the GLI its beyond affordable yeah its not as nice an luxurious but it's definitely fast af
So 4 almost half the price im able 2 pretty much get the same thing performance wise ➖ some of the luxury features
Ls ftw but I'm biased 🤷♂️😂
As a fellow Chevy fanboy I concur. 😂
I’m biased towards the ls but I like the idea of a simple 1j car like Ryan’s
Thanks! My engine swapper TODAY pretty much convinced me to trade my LS for his 1JZ to make the swap easier in my RHD S13.4 vert. Much to consider. Going on a year and a half so I'm hella ready to rip JUST SOMETHING. 🌴
I feel like the turbo k series is becoming the alternative to the ls swap as JF prices keep going insane. Also you can get a new type r crate engine ready to drop in with a computer for less than a stock jz and it only needs a tune to make 350-400
I mean ive seen the type r engines used go for 5k to 6.5k is it really that high for a jz engine nowadays? Im looking for an rx7 body or some 80s car like that (just got into initial d recently so my obsessions been reignited) and i think it would be a cool concept to find something higher revving to throw in there that has the reliability and accessability that the rotary doesnt. I just know a k series would be more niche and custom fab work than something familiar like a jz. Yes ive thought of the s2000shigh revving plant for the rx7 but again, not cheap and VERY custom
I love that army air corps livery. Ive always wanted to that with one of my cars
The hit of the ls torque can’t be beat by a 1jz but the 1zj sound cool
This comparison is the definition of 'this is brilliant, but I like this'
Ls swapped 240sx looks so right
No they are complete junk
$30,000 junk at that
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@@carguynewb7856 well at least you got something write in your statement. Junk😅😂😂
@@AmaAndZing so are BRZ’s GT86’s 350Z’s AE86’s and Genesis coupe’s they are all 5 figure cars in my country
Before watching the video, I would like to say that the LS is a better swap. I love everything jdm but the LS is much easier to find compared to the 1jz.
7:50 please tell me im not the only one who is seeing the A90 in the back : )
If money is no object, I would love both. One with a Texas speed engine, one with a 2j or RB.
I’ve had both. Can’t go wrong.
please do a review of speed racer (2008)
I agree
Love the content!
Emotional engine swap? Rotary (braaaaaaap)
Love the S chassis....I have S12 with a mild ford small block fits in well night and day difference vs the original 1.8T
8:10 Stealth mode
8:07 went right passed a cop. Chillest has ever been
The LS is more accessible to us Americans because they are everywhere. And V8s are way heavier also. I like the LS way better. No replacement for Displacement.
I understand that building something like this is cool and unique but it cost the same as buying a v8 camaro or mustang with a comfy interior with more power that you can squeeze even more power out of with basic mods
I personally either motor is cool. And I'll give people credit for going the 2 or 1jz rout. But to me the ls1 is always my choice. I personally like the sound better and love the feel of naturally aspirated engines over turbo. So some of the points you made for the 1jz being more theatrical or emotional goes to the ls1 just for me personally. Not sure if I'm in the minority or majority with that opinion but I respect either engine big time.
Uuuhhhhh, gotta have both!!!!
do a 1j vs sr20 or rb next
Bang for buck N/A LS for sure.
Buck for bang turbo any JZ.
I'm a logical person.. So that's why I swapped a LS1 into my 1977 Celica
I need to see this
Both the JZ and LS are amazing engines and very popular swaps
It would depend on what brand and theme I’m going for to determine which engine I want
I have an ls swapped s13. Love it
You should compare a built SR20det vs a built KA24de turbo
I love turbos and have owned my share of imports like a GSR Integra, fully built engine with CTR/ITR parts, a Trans Am that I bought with a blown engine and good block so I bored it over. 10 and stroked her., then an STI with over 12k just on engine/turbo/ecu oh and I almost forgot about SR20DET swapped 240 that got totalled in a Walmart parking lot less then a week after I bought it :( I love the sound of RB's for inline 6s and 1J sounds way less industrial then a 2J...an LS ALWAYS feels and sounds great!!!
Popularize coyote swaps
BARRA is best sounding inline 6 in my opinion
Great video!
KA24 with a turbo
Depends on the application. Drag or drift
LS are overdone because they just work. They’re a no-brainer. The best bang for your buck and there’s nothing that can even hang for the amount of money you’d spend on an LS swap