I also viewed it through the lense of maybe that's what jack looked like to Danny as a child. Look at photos of your parents & sometimes they look very different than your memory.
“Will always be…” Can I borrow your crystal ball? I’m forty five, and the leaps technology has taken just in my lifetime, indicate that there’s no telling what we’ll have in the next forty years.
@@richrelaxes1154Indeed. Once the uncanny valley has been fully bridged ..imagine AI will eventually (soon?) be able to churn out 100 different sequels to anything in minutes. The idea of actors pretending on a set will be a quaint memory, and movies will become entirely personal according to our wishes/algorithms. Big Brother won't watch us; he'll dance and sing and we'll watch him.
@@gggooding I dream of a world where I can tell my house AI that I want to watch Lethal Weapon, but with me deepfaked over Mel Gibson. Or Gone With the Wind, but instead of North vs South, it’s Smurfs vs Snorks.
I loved the first one, and I loved this one (watched the director's cut version). It was a really solid conclusion to a story that I didn't know I needed a conclusion for. I especially loved that the movie tackled Danny's fear of turning into his dad on two levels: real (the struggle with alcoholism) and the supernatural (being trapped by the overlook, and turning on someone he cares about). And then it ended with him finally being able to look at his mom again, the way she was. A very touching ending.
This a movie where their is significant value in watching the Director's Cut. It does a lot more in terms of understanding the abilities of those with powers. It expands the story in a highly engaging way.
I loved Doctor Sleep far more than The Shinning". Kubrick was one of the greats without question but with The Shinning I dont think he quite understood what Stephen King telling a story about. He in some ways leaned into the wrong aspects of the story. What I found amazing about the story in Doctor Sleep is how it was able to incorporate Kubrick's adaptation into it by re-contexualized things not retconning or pretending the Shinning didn't exist. I gained a greater appreciation for The Shinning after watching the Director's cut of Doctor Sleep. One of the most interesting aspects of how Doctor Sleep used Kubrick's adaptation is that when Stephen King watched it 40 years of hate & anger about what Kubrick did with his story melted away. For the first time Stephen King had an appreciation for what Kubrick did. While some may say the passage of time & death of Kubrick allowed King to soften or get over how he felt nowadays rather than having anything to do with Doctor Sleep emphatically I can say that is not the case. The fact is in every interview that Stephen King was asked about Kubrick or The Shinning up until he was able to screen Doctor Sleep he never wavered about his disdain. Only after seeing Doctor Sleep did he change his opinion.
I think now's about the time you checked out some of Mike Flanagan's TV shows, specifically Midnight Mass. It's one of the best miniseries ever made IMO.
If you’re curious, Mike Flanagan is an EXCELLENT horror director and just a good storyteller in general. He made one of my favorite horror movies ever, Hush, and all his television shows (especially The Haunting of Hill House and Midnight Mass) are stellar. He just does supernatural horror so well - and I say that as someone who doesn’t love supernatural horror.
This is one of the very few sequels that lives up to the original. Not to say that it’s as good as The Shining but Doctor Sleep really did a great job of mixing the elements from Shining and staying true to the original story that Stephen King wrote.
It’s an easier watch I’ll give it that. Has 0 Kubrick in it though at all not even an imitation other then the recreation scenes which is good and bad. Still love it though.
@@HonkeyKong54What do you mean? It keeps all the changes Kubrick made except retroactively un-lobotomizing the characters. In the novel the hotel burns down, Dick's alive, there's no hedge maze, no axe, etc.
While I agree that this is a much more "conventional" movie compared to the first one, I think that stylistic difference actually works really well with Danny's overall character arc. In the first movie Danny is a young child with barely any comprehension of his gifts or his situation, and the movie's bizarre dreamlike vibe reflects that perspective (along with the perspective of his deeply-unwell father). In this movie Danny's grown substantially more self-aware, and gained way more understanding of his situation, and the movie's more grounded, lucid style reflects that.
While I loved The Shining, I LOOOOOVED Doctor Sleep. Like Terminator 2 and The Raid 2, Doctor Sleep managed to keep a lot of elements from its predecessor and elevate them even more in fresh and inventive ways. Hallorann gets axed (quite literally) in such a lame way in the first film , but in this one, they managed to give him more depth and charm. Yea, we all knew Billy was going to die, but they made him one of the MVPs of the film. He helped Danny with his addiction, gave him work, a place to stay, helps him find a missing child, and even help him essentially take out all of the bad guys in a single operation. This film was amazing!
I couldnt believe they pulled this off. Hard to make a sequel to such a classic, especially so many years later. BUt this movie is great. Rebecca Ferguson is terrifying.
They guy who played the guy complimenting baseball boy at the game (not sure if he was playing the father) was the actor that played Danny in the Shining.
Both movies are great but I'm still love The Shining more. Doctor Sleep does answer alot of questions from The Shining, which I really appreciate. Kudos to Stephen King. Speaking of him, There is a mini series version of The Shining he was heavily involved with in the writing that is more true to his book. Also a very good watch.
I still prefer The Shining, both the book and movie. Creating a sequel to one of the most iconic works in the horror genre is a tall order, and what we got was pretty cool. Getting to see Danny as an adult is interesting; aside from growing up in psychic powers, he had to contend with alcoholism, the same issue that plagued his father. Alcoholism is something Stephen King knows all too well (it was a major factor in The Shining), so it's rather telling that he wrote one of his most famous characters overcoming it and attending AA meetings in a sequel. This movie adaptation is fine for what it is, but it left out or changed a lot of details for the sake of pacing. There's more time spent with Rose's group, and what individual skills they had to contribute. It also examines of how logistically hard it would be to operate as a stealthy band of ancient psychic vampires. They have an extensive support system behind the scenes, but that doesn't help if there's a dwindling amount of Shiners in the country. Flying overseas is off the table because of all the post-9/11 security, and even going down to Mexico would bring them too much attention. Abra is even _more_ savage in the book as well. There are lots of other details, but I don't want to spoil anything in case you read it.
If I can suggest other works by this director, "Oculus", "Hush" and "Gerald's Game" are also great movies by Flanagan. He also wrote/produced the Netflix mini-series, "The Haunting Of Hill House" which is fantastic.
One of the most ambitious sequels I've ever seen for sure. It's amazing how it manages to be a sequel to both the novel and the movie. As someone who didn't like the changes Kubrick made, this retroactively fixed the movie for me.
I think isolation is the underlying antagonist of both movies. The baseball boy, the little girl at the lake, and the push; all isolated. The isolation at the Overlook hotel caused Jack's vulnerability to the dark entities. Wendy and Danny's every day isolation made them easier for Jack to abuse at home. Jack's isolation from humanity made him a total d-bag and incapable of properly using his shine. Rose's isolation from her spiritual wolf pack and getting her into that isolated environment at the Overlook made it possible for her to be brought down. Abra was ostracized by her peers, but she had a connection to her parents, and a desire to be connected to people around her. It wasn't until Danny was able to connect to Billy and his recovery group that he was able to use his shine to do good. Also, when you said "Billy's the greatest guy ever, He's going to die. That's a shame." I had to pause for ten minutes to LMAO
I love the shining. Its one of my top 3 favorite horror movies and top 35 movies. This movie is in my mind the perfect sequel for a movie for which i never would've thought needed one. No complaints whatsoever. It was obviously made with a lotta love to both the kubrick movie and the source material and i respect the hell out of mike Flanagan for that
I loved The Shining even though I was disappointed in many of the changes from the book. I enjoyed Doctor Sleep more. As you said, even though it had a longer run time, it felt shorter. I liked that they were able to bring Halloran back since he didn't die in the book, and they did in a way that didn't feel too forced or cheese. Also, they brought the original book ending to this movie. Ewan McGregor was fantastic, as was the entire cast. Even Rose. You might recognize her from most (if not all) of the Mission Impossible movies and as the big bad in Men in Black 2. I really loved that Danny found his place being able to give peace to those as they were about to die and they considered him to be a "doctor." As if "Doc" was foreshadowing his calling.
Love the first two acts and Rose the Hat is a modern horror icon as far as I'm concerned, but the film takes a downturn once they return to the Overlook.
Great movie - it served as a fun and satisfying follow-up to The Shining, all while being a stylish and entertaining movie on its own. Mike Flanagan does really good stuff, I'm sure you'll enjoy his other works.
I liked this movie on my first watch, but I realized how weak it was on suspense on the second watch. I usually don’t watch these reactions, but you’re special. 😘
The Shining is one of the all-time great thriller classics, this movie is one of the rare sequels that's equal to or better than the original, to me it's up there with Terminator 2
I like both in different ways. I heard they had a script and plans for a prequel, but Doctor Sleep wasn't as successful as they wanted so it's not getting made now. You never know, maybe one day it'll get made, many years down the road.
IMO Rebecca Ferguson certainly did a good job of making me hate Rose the Hat (along with the writing, of course). Currently, you would probably recognize her as Lady Jessica (Paul's mom) in Dune, Jack Torrance / The Bartender was played by none other than Henry Thomas - little Elliot from E.T.
The actress who plays rose is Swedish, from my perspective I felt like she tried to hard to hide her accent. Not saying it was a bad performance, I just felt like something didn’t feel right.
This is one of those movies rare movies.. Where the trailer didn't really look that good... But the movie ended up being way better than they they made the trailer it's normally the other way around...
I like this movie better than the Shining. The acting is top notch especially Rebecca Ferguson and Kyliegh Curran and I think it’s a more satisfying and less style for style sake movie. I also like that King not only likes this movie better but loves Mike Flanagan’s changes he made including going back to the Overlook.
Thought this movie was pretty cool, but I loved The Shining primarily because of how psychological and emotional it was, and how it really didn’t attempt to explain anything. This movie is great but kinda turns the story more into something like X-Men than horror.
Overall, I liked it, but I still think I prefer Kubrick's. Any Stephen King book that deals heavily with telepathy (and there are more than a few) tends to lose some of its potency in the adaptation. (don't know if you've read it, but Dreamcatcher is a great example of this). Usually what's lacking is the budget and/or technology to represent the "dialogue" visually (and I'll admit, I've never been crazy about Kubrick's choice to not deal with it at all, but like it or not, he managed to create a whole other monster). No complaints about that here, aside from feeling like they may have leaned on the effects a bit too heavily. What really tips the scales for me is Rose. She's the only embodied adversary in these movies if you don't count Jack, and to be fair, the actress had a lot on her plate. I just didn't particularly care for the performance. A character like that will always be way scarier in your imagination.
So not only have I watched both The Shining and Doctor Sleep, but I read both books as well. In my opinion The Shining is a trash movie, especially when compared to the book. I understand book adaptations aren’t always going to be the greatest, but there was a lot of important stuff from the book that never made it to the movie. I mean even Stephen King himself hates that movie, and was disappointed in how the story was handled. Lol Now Doctor Sleep on the other hand I feel was handled a lot better. There were still some things from the book I wish made it, particularly how Rose and the others were suppose to look when being viewed using the shining. But over all I was really happy with the movie.
I fucking love The Shining, that’s not a knock on Doctor Sleep at all, I thought they did a brilliant job with that and Flanagan is up there with my favorite horror directors working today. The Shining is just tough to beat. Anyway, when I first watched the Shining, it became one of my favorite horror movies. The story is so in depth, insane, and it has such an element of ambiguity. The theories alone are amazing. You could spend days watching theory videos. Everything is is amazing, acting, storytelling, cinematography. Just brilliant. As for Dr Sleep, I really enjoyed the sequel. Good Villain, amazing visuals and some awesome storytelling. But, it ruins The Shining for me. See, I would love Doctor Sleep if it was it's own thing. Not with The Shining. But, the fact it explains literally everything from that film ruins the ambiguity for me. We know the hotel is now a place to try and eat the shine that people have. The way the hotel is presented in the movie is much more average haunted house with horrors. It just ruins it for me. So I watch Doctor Sleep as it's own thing and The Shining as it's own thing, they are so different but both so good in their own ways. The hotel in the shining is extremely eerie, mysterious, filled with ghosts with weird intentions and of course "you were always the caretaker" adding to elements of mystery.
No it's not but it's still a very good film. Rose the hat is in Mission Impossible and she rubs me the wrong way in that too. Ewan McGregor is great in pretty much everything. Mike Flanagan did the series House on Haunted Hill or whatever it's called, which was stellar but his other shows stink.
Not better, just a different take. Stanley Kubrick's sadistic sensibility was perfect for horror. This is more an adventure fantasy, on the level of The Lost Boys.
Recasting old characters for new movies will always be superior to using some uncanny valley de-aging CGI and this movie is a prime example of that.
I also viewed it through the lense of maybe that's what jack looked like to Danny as a child.
Look at photos of your parents & sometimes they look very different than your memory.
“Will always be…”
Can I borrow your crystal ball? I’m forty five, and the leaps technology has taken just in my lifetime, indicate that there’s no telling what we’ll have in the next forty years.
@@richrelaxes1154Indeed. Once the uncanny valley has been fully bridged ..imagine AI will eventually (soon?) be able to churn out 100 different sequels to anything in minutes. The idea of actors pretending on a set will be a quaint memory, and movies will become entirely personal according to our wishes/algorithms. Big Brother won't watch us; he'll dance and sing and we'll watch him.
@@gggooding
I dream of a world where I can tell my house AI that I want to watch Lethal Weapon, but with me deepfaked over Mel Gibson. Or Gone With the Wind, but instead of North vs South, it’s Smurfs vs Snorks.
Yes! It's sad that people have gotten so used to it that they're actually asking for it now. 😑
I loved the first one, and I loved this one (watched the director's cut version). It was a really solid conclusion to a story that I didn't know I needed a conclusion for.
I especially loved that the movie tackled Danny's fear of turning into his dad on two levels: real (the struggle with alcoholism) and the supernatural (being trapped by the overlook, and turning on someone he cares about). And then it ended with him finally being able to look at his mom again, the way she was. A very touching ending.
This a movie where their is significant value in watching the Director's Cut. It does a lot more in terms of understanding the abilities of those with powers. It expands the story in a highly engaging way.
I loved Doctor Sleep far more than The Shinning". Kubrick was one of the greats without question but with The Shinning I dont think he quite understood what Stephen King telling a story about. He in some ways leaned into the wrong aspects of the story.
What I found amazing about the story in Doctor Sleep is how it was able to incorporate Kubrick's adaptation into it by re-contexualized things not retconning or pretending the Shinning didn't exist. I gained a greater appreciation for The Shinning after watching the Director's cut of Doctor Sleep.
One of the most interesting aspects of how Doctor Sleep used Kubrick's adaptation is that when Stephen King watched it 40 years of hate & anger about what Kubrick did with his story melted away. For the first time Stephen King had an appreciation for what Kubrick did. While some may say the passage of time & death of Kubrick allowed King to soften or get over how he felt nowadays rather than having anything to do with Doctor Sleep emphatically I can say that is not the case. The fact is in every interview that Stephen King was asked about Kubrick or The Shinning up until he was able to screen Doctor Sleep he never wavered about his disdain. Only after seeing Doctor Sleep did he change his opinion.
Someone else already commented it, but Midnight Mass is a hearty recommendation.
you'll get a kick out of the fact that the guy who played jack was elliot from E.T. (Henry Thomas)
I think now's about the time you checked out some of Mike Flanagan's TV shows, specifically Midnight Mass. It's one of the best miniseries ever made IMO.
I love the direction these recent recommendations have been going.
Definitely time for Midnight Mass!
Another recommendation for Midnight Mass here from me - that show was some real good shit.
Midnight Mass is good but I'd never rank it above either Haunting shows.
@@chand911 Both suffered from a disturbing lack of Bev.
If you’re curious, Mike Flanagan is an EXCELLENT horror director and just a good storyteller in general. He made one of my favorite horror movies ever, Hush, and all his television shows (especially The Haunting of Hill House and Midnight Mass) are stellar. He just does supernatural horror so well - and I say that as someone who doesn’t love supernatural horror.
Mike Flanagan is an amazing director and he knocked this out of the park like he does so many other things.
This is one of the very few sequels that lives up to the original. Not to say that it’s as good as The Shining but Doctor Sleep really did a great job of mixing the elements from Shining and staying true to the original story that Stephen King wrote.
Amen
It’s an easier watch I’ll give it that. Has 0 Kubrick in it though at all not even an imitation other then the recreation scenes which is good and bad. Still love it though.
@@HonkeyKong54What do you mean? It keeps all the changes Kubrick made except retroactively un-lobotomizing the characters. In the novel the hotel burns down, Dick's alive, there's no hedge maze, no axe, etc.
While I agree that this is a much more "conventional" movie compared to the first one, I think that stylistic difference actually works really well with Danny's overall character arc. In the first movie Danny is a young child with barely any comprehension of his gifts or his situation, and the movie's bizarre dreamlike vibe reflects that perspective (along with the perspective of his deeply-unwell father). In this movie Danny's grown substantially more self-aware, and gained way more understanding of his situation, and the movie's more grounded, lucid style reflects that.
That scene where jack finally sees his mother again at the overlook hotel as it all burns down.... T____T
While I loved The Shining, I LOOOOOVED Doctor Sleep. Like Terminator 2 and The Raid 2, Doctor Sleep managed to keep a lot of elements from its predecessor and elevate them even more in fresh and inventive ways.
Hallorann gets axed (quite literally) in such a lame way in the first film , but in this one, they managed to give him more depth and charm.
Yea, we all knew Billy was going to die, but they made him one of the MVPs of the film. He helped Danny with his addiction, gave him work, a place to stay, helps him find a missing child, and even help him essentially take out all of the bad guys in a single operation.
This film was amazing!
does this mean we can expect reactions to The Haunting of Hill House sometime in the future :D
Dear god PLEASE.
The actor also played in Fear The Walking Dead.
I really do like this movie,very underrated.
Loved The Shining and loved this. Definitely a different vibe, but a very worthy conclusion. I also really liked the casting.
Omg I love Doctor Sleep. It’s so freaking good!!!
I couldnt believe they pulled this off. Hard to make a sequel to such a classic, especially so many years later. BUt this movie is great. Rebecca Ferguson is terrifying.
They guy who played the guy complimenting baseball boy at the game (not sure if he was playing the father) was the actor that played Danny in the Shining.
Both movies are great but I'm still love The Shining more. Doctor Sleep does answer alot of questions from The Shining, which I really appreciate. Kudos to Stephen King. Speaking of him, There is a mini series version of The Shining he was heavily involved with in the writing that is more true to his book. Also a very good watch.
This movie is so cathartic if you’ve ever had an addict in your life. I watched this at exactly the right time I needed to see it.
Fun fact: The actor that played Jack is the same actor who played Elliot in E.T.
This movie is so good
I still prefer The Shining, both the book and movie. Creating a sequel to one of the most iconic works in the horror genre is a tall order, and what we got was pretty cool. Getting to see Danny as an adult is interesting; aside from growing up in psychic powers, he had to contend with alcoholism, the same issue that plagued his father. Alcoholism is something Stephen King knows all too well (it was a major factor in The Shining), so it's rather telling that he wrote one of his most famous characters overcoming it and attending AA meetings in a sequel. This movie adaptation is fine for what it is, but it left out or changed a lot of details for the sake of pacing. There's more time spent with Rose's group, and what individual skills they had to contribute. It also examines of how logistically hard it would be to operate as a stealthy band of ancient psychic vampires. They have an extensive support system behind the scenes, but that doesn't help if there's a dwindling amount of Shiners in the country. Flying overseas is off the table because of all the post-9/11 security, and even going down to Mexico would bring them too much attention. Abra is even _more_ savage in the book as well. There are lots of other details, but I don't want to spoil anything in case you read it.
If I can suggest other works by this director, "Oculus", "Hush" and "Gerald's Game" are also great movies by Flanagan. He also wrote/produced the Netflix mini-series, "The Haunting Of Hill House" which is fantastic.
One of the most ambitious sequels I've ever seen for sure. It's amazing how it manages to be a sequel to both the novel and the movie. As someone who didn't like the changes Kubrick made, this retroactively fixed the movie for me.
I did not have great expectations for this, but enjoyed it.
I think isolation is the underlying antagonist of both movies. The baseball boy, the little girl at the lake, and the push; all isolated. The isolation at the Overlook hotel caused Jack's vulnerability to the dark entities. Wendy and Danny's every day isolation made them easier for Jack to abuse at home. Jack's isolation from humanity made him a total d-bag and incapable of properly using his shine. Rose's isolation from her spiritual wolf pack and getting her into that isolated environment at the Overlook made it possible for her to be brought down. Abra was ostracized by her peers, but she had a connection to her parents, and a desire to be connected to people around her. It wasn't until Danny was able to connect to Billy and his recovery group that he was able to use his shine to do good.
Also, when you said "Billy's the greatest guy ever, He's going to die. That's a shame." I had to pause for ten minutes to LMAO
I love the shining. Its one of my top 3 favorite horror movies and top 35 movies. This movie is in my mind the perfect sequel for a movie for which i never would've thought needed one. No complaints whatsoever. It was obviously made with a lotta love to both the kubrick movie and the source material and i respect the hell out of mike Flanagan for that
I loved The Shining even though I was disappointed in many of the changes from the book. I enjoyed Doctor Sleep more. As you said, even though it had a longer run time, it felt shorter. I liked that they were able to bring Halloran back since he didn't die in the book, and they did in a way that didn't feel too forced or cheese. Also, they brought the original book ending to this movie. Ewan McGregor was fantastic, as was the entire cast. Even Rose. You might recognize her from most (if not all) of the Mission Impossible movies and as the big bad in Men in Black 2. I really loved that Danny found his place being able to give peace to those as they were about to die and they considered him to be a "doctor." As if "Doc" was foreshadowing his calling.
Love this movie I hope more stories focusing on abra Plus check out running scared with Paul walker
This movie came out of nowhere for me. Expected it to be trash but enjoyed it a lot.
Love the first two acts and Rose the Hat is a modern horror icon as far as I'm concerned, but the film takes a downturn once they return to the Overlook.
Not mad at that take.
Great movie - it served as a fun and satisfying follow-up to The Shining, all while being a stylish and entertaining movie on its own. Mike Flanagan does really good stuff, I'm sure you'll enjoy his other works.
I liked this movie on my first watch, but I realized how weak it was on suspense on the second watch. I usually don’t watch these reactions, but you’re special. 😘
I love this movie. So good.
The Shining is one of the all-time great thriller classics, this movie is one of the rare sequels that's equal to or better than the original, to me it's up there with Terminator 2
Imo yes Doctor Sleep is much much better than The Shining. And im brave enough to tell everyone that lol. I just loved it
IMO yes it is. The characters alone make it better imo. I’ve seen this way more already
I loved this movie, more than the novel to be honest.
I like both in different ways. I heard they had a script and plans for a prequel, but Doctor Sleep wasn't as successful as they wanted so it's not getting made now. You never know, maybe one day it'll get made, many years down the road.
For the algorithm!
Not often you get a sequel that matches the original.And if you want to see more of Ewan McGregor you have to see Trainspotting.
IMO Rebecca Ferguson certainly did a good job of making me hate Rose the Hat (along with the writing, of course). Currently, you would probably recognize her as Lady Jessica (Paul's mom) in Dune, Jack Torrance / The Bartender was played by none other than Henry Thomas - little Elliot from E.T.
The actress who plays rose is Swedish, from my perspective I felt like she tried to hard to hide her accent. Not saying it was a bad performance, I just felt like something didn’t feel right.
This is one of those movies rare movies.. Where the trailer didn't really look that good... But the movie ended up being way better than they they made the trailer it's normally the other way around...
I like this movie better than the Shining. The acting is top notch especially Rebecca Ferguson and Kyliegh Curran and I think it’s a more satisfying and less style for style sake movie. I also like that King not only likes this movie better but loves Mike Flanagan’s changes he made including going back to the Overlook.
Thought this movie was pretty cool, but I loved The Shining primarily because of how psychological and emotional it was, and how it really didn’t attempt to explain anything. This movie is great but kinda turns the story more into something like X-Men than horror.
Love this movie, creeped me out more than the shining.
Overall, I liked it, but I still think I prefer Kubrick's. Any Stephen King book that deals heavily with telepathy (and there are more than a few) tends to lose some of its potency in the adaptation. (don't know if you've read it, but Dreamcatcher is a great example of this). Usually what's lacking is the budget and/or technology to represent the "dialogue" visually (and I'll admit, I've never been crazy about Kubrick's choice to not deal with it at all, but like it or not, he managed to create a whole other monster). No complaints about that here, aside from feeling like they may have leaned on the effects a bit too heavily. What really tips the scales for me is Rose. She's the only embodied adversary in these movies if you don't count Jack, and to be fair, the actress had a lot on her plate. I just didn't particularly care for the performance. A character like that will always be way scarier in your imagination.
Ive always liked dr sleep i think its a good sequel
So not only have I watched both The Shining and Doctor Sleep, but I read both books as well. In my opinion The Shining is a trash movie, especially when compared to the book. I understand book adaptations aren’t always going to be the greatest, but there was a lot of important stuff from the book that never made it to the movie. I mean even Stephen King himself hates that movie, and was disappointed in how the story was handled. Lol Now Doctor Sleep on the other hand I feel was handled a lot better. There were still some things from the book I wish made it, particularly how Rose and the others were suppose to look when being viewed using the shining. But over all I was really happy with the movie.
I fucking love The Shining, that’s not a knock on Doctor Sleep at all, I thought they did a brilliant job with that and Flanagan is up there with my favorite horror directors working today. The Shining is just tough to beat.
Anyway, when I first watched the Shining, it became one of my favorite horror movies. The story is so in depth, insane, and it has such an element of ambiguity. The theories alone are amazing. You could spend days watching theory videos. Everything is is amazing, acting, storytelling, cinematography. Just brilliant.
As for Dr Sleep, I really enjoyed the sequel. Good Villain, amazing visuals and some awesome storytelling. But, it ruins The Shining for me. See, I would love Doctor Sleep if it was it's own thing. Not with The Shining. But, the fact it explains literally everything from that film ruins the ambiguity for me. We know the hotel is now a place to try and eat the shine that people have. The way the hotel is presented in the movie is much more average haunted house with horrors. It just ruins it for me. So I watch Doctor Sleep as it's own thing and The Shining as it's own thing, they are so different but both so good in their own ways.
The hotel in the shining is extremely eerie, mysterious, filled with ghosts with weird intentions and of course "you were always the caretaker" adding to elements of mystery.
No it's not but it's still a very good film. Rose the hat is in Mission Impossible and she rubs me the wrong way in that too. Ewan McGregor is great in pretty much everything. Mike Flanagan did the series House on Haunted Hill or whatever it's called, which was stellar but his other shows stink.
Not better, just a different take. Stanley Kubrick's sadistic sensibility was perfect for horror. This is more an adventure fantasy, on the level of The Lost Boys.
Dr Sleep is WAY better than The Shining
Rebecca Ferguson has never been sexier than in this film… is that weird?
yes. It's better. Sorry not sorry.
No of course this isn't better than the Shining. Silly to even suggest it. The Shining is a piece of art. This is a movie.
Basic, lame modern take. It's not art
Dr. Sleep was a stupid, lame story. Shining vampires?!? Ridiculously stupid. I felt bad for McGregor being in this horrid POS.
Edgy.
@@terrycullen3302 - No. Not really. Go be a jerkoff somewhere else.