Paul I have a question after watching your other video done at Wallace ranch. How many buds do you recommend, given that not all the buds will become hybrids?
No way. I never believed you would try this and you did. Again it was successful , waiting for updates via it being failure or success. Keep on growing chief
This is an awesome idea! I just trimmed back a bunch of my plants and winterized them and will definitely try this with some of my cuttings! Thank you for sharing!
I have yet to replicate it, the idea came from Wallace Ranch. Take 2 young cuttings, cut them in half thru the core, and try to fuse them together. Let it heal and plant it. See if any new, unique growth through graft, that is the goal.
This is only going to make it so that you can grow two separate varieties on one plant, you won't be getting a hyrbid unless you cross pollinate them and plant the seeds of the fruit that you get from them.
Awesome! I Hope it works out for you!! If that graft with the gap takes I'd probably cut the gap out, so it doesn't collect water( dew ). I wonder if you do the initial cut with a strong spot light or something similar to see through to the stem. Might make the cut easier to see. Not sure if I'm explaining it well. I really like that grafting knife.
That is an excellent idea, a flashlight would be most helpful. I got some cheap grafting kit on Ebay and this knife has been like old faithful for me, lol.
Thank you for your quick reply! So, I have a European FB friend that traveled in Asia--including China, where he observed hybrids that were reported to have originated in the laboratory. He explained to me they are like super hybrids. They are more than self-fertile, as they require no bees!!!??? They produce year-round, in a climate similar or worse than ours here in the So Cal... I was suspect of this recent information... but, the value of somaic hybrids is that they are the union of species not sexually compatable--hence this seems to offer an entirely new set of possibilities! In the laboratory origination they would/should be classified as GMO's... But I am not sure (i have doubts) if a natural fusion, as you have described could be labeled "Genetically Modified". Very fascinating at the very least... But, what this may information may create are fruits (most likely produced in Asia) sweet and beautiful, with variable colored flesh, and ultimately relatively inexpensive... As once the hybridss are "released" then they can be propagated. duplicated, much like the ones we grow now....
Did you immediately pot the graft as is? Leave it in a greenhouse or outside in a shaded area? Was all the fruit from the initial test grafted plant the same new cross? Were all the blooms from that test plant the same on buds from all three sides of the graft? Curious.
I leave the grafts uncovered, in full shade on the outside of the greenhouse. I let it be for 4 weeks. Temperatures dip down into the upper 40's, yet the successful ones rooted all on their own while being taped up. It's probably best to do this in the beginning of the growing season.
Hey Paul, this is amazing!! I’m trying to replicate it myself and was wondering if you wrapped them in plastic to prevent drying out of if you just let them be?
I hope so too! It was the first to shoot out a root while being wrapped up with tape. Good to know about the rot, my plant has been vigorous and happy so far.
You have protected the thorns in this application. It will give new branches from these thorns of grafted both sides. Will the properties of new branches sprouting from both sides of the grafted root be the same features?
Wow Paul! That is amazingly interesting! When I saw the Sugar Dragon hybrid I was amazed as I tried and failed with traditional breeding. I was telling Carlos Villamonte that Julio is so much better than I since he was able to achieve a hybrid cross and now I see he used this method! Amazing! I am curious to know if the result was accidental or intentional. And, where the idea originated... Also the Jade Red... Where did that originate as I have a Jade Red not released. It is suspect to heat damage/breakdown....
I believe the idea originated from a book that Mr. Wallace had, but am not 100% sure. I'll try to find out. There was another graft that had a successful union, but both of the cuttings grew separate and never formed a somatic fusion. It's probably like winning at the casino, but it will be fun to try and replicate success. As for Jade Red, this is not your plant, although I wish it was... Haha. This one came from The Land From Down Under... sacredgardenfrangipanis.com/shop/jade-red. Thanks for all that you do in the dragon fruit world.
@@RAREDRAGONFRUIT Maybe the Jade will perform in cooler climates, but the heat damage to the fruit is very real and very problematic! I allowed one grower in Ventura County to experiement and I am so glad it did not get released! I no longer grow it as the internal breakdown is sometimes "impossible" to detect as it appears pretty externally, but mush and rancid when cut open Super problematic!!!!!
Hi, I posted a photo of one of the grafts the other day. I’ll do an update this season. m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=pfbid02Py2MQZLzELNn619cYDYUzkQheXwk1Gzt5yARbyaLryYaYvxVC9v7uF3djt7tMDPel&id=100063831241493&mibextid=qC1gEa
I wonder if you could also fuse the meristem of both cuttings together in the process. though it may be too difficult to achieve that way, I believe you may get better results if you were able to fuse them together without topping them
Look up "somatic hybrid" or "somatic fusion" and you can see what I found so far... I saw this plant and fruit back in 2019 and I was interested in it ever since. Hopefully we can learn more about it in the future.
I looked up somatic fusion/hybrid. That technique of "grafting" has nothing to do with the grafting we are doing with dragon fruit. I'm afraid someone is trying to pull a fast one here. 😢
Hi Paul! I like your videos a lot. Some of your tips are very helpful (I'm texting from Brazil, but the climate where i live is much alike what you get in San Diego). But I have a real doubt: how come a simple (but extense) paralelle graft create a genetic miscigenation/chimerization? I'm used to make new cultivars from cross-polination and produced some interesting variaties, but it's very unlikely that kind of grafting could result in any new variaties. Any explanation?
That is what every expert said at the Pitahaya Festival in 2019, yet this happened. It's probably because the grafted plants were young and undeveloped. I believe it's actually a "somatic fusion". Gardeners have debated for 100's of years if rootstock can affect scion. I think this is evidence that it's rare, but possible.
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This method is going revolutionize this plant
I didn't think about it that way, but if others are successful, you are absolutely right!
Thanks for taking the time out to make this video Paul. I'm looking forward to an update in the next 15-20 days.
Thanks for watching!
Paul I have a question after watching your other video done at Wallace ranch. How many buds do you recommend, given that not all the buds will become hybrids?
No way. I never believed you would try this and you did. Again it was successful , waiting for updates via it being failure or success. Keep on growing chief
Thanks for the support!
Brilliant. Can't wait to try this.
I'm sure another graft will be successful, but it seems to be a rare event.
This is an awesome idea! I just trimmed back a bunch of my plants and winterized them and will definitely try this with some of my cuttings! Thank you for sharing!
Thank you, it's pretty rare to be successful. I will keep on trying.
Always enjoy learning from you! Thank you for sharing your knowledge. 🌹
You are so welcome!
@@RAREDRAGONFRUIT 😇😇😇
You're scaring me with that knife skill cutting into yourself. Lol. Remember to cut away. Great video! I waiting for this...
Lol... You should see me with a chainsaw or on a skateboard!
Are you selectively breaking off any growth from either of the grafted sides? Ideally where would you want the new shoot to take place?
I was told to prune off the growth until it looks different. I've seen growth pop out in unique places.
Epic graft!
Thanks!
After watching your last videos I was sure that you will make the chaymera graft and there we are.Thank you and keep us updated.
Thanks, I couldn't resist.
Cool! happy growing....
Thanks, you too!
Hi do you plant the cutting straight after you marinated the 2 cuttings together?
Can you please walk me though it? Appreciated thanks
I have yet to replicate it, the idea came from Wallace Ranch. Take 2 young cuttings, cut them in half thru the core, and try to fuse them together. Let it heal and plant it. See if any new, unique growth through graft, that is the goal.
Thanks 😊⭐️❤️
This is only going to make it so that you can grow two separate varieties on one plant, you won't be getting a hyrbid unless you cross pollinate them and plant the seeds of the fruit that you get from them.
Look into chimera or Somatic hybrid. It’s unlikely, but possible… Have you seen the chimera pitahaya?
Awesome! I Hope it works out for you!! If that graft with the gap takes I'd probably cut the gap out, so it doesn't collect water( dew ). I wonder if you do the initial cut with a strong spot light or something similar to see through to the stem. Might make the cut easier to see. Not sure if I'm explaining it well.
I really like that grafting knife.
That is an excellent idea, a flashlight would be most helpful. I got some cheap grafting kit on Ebay and this knife has been like old faithful for me, lol.
How is this any different from other grafts? The plants dna wont mix
That's what I thought until I met Julio Robles... th-cam.com/video/qEpdBrQ0iuw/w-d-xo.html
I must be missing something. This is basically just a long L graft. How can it possibly result in a hybrid species?
Hey paul what is the name of those corner notchers you use to cut nodes??? And whats the name of tape you use??? Thanks alot
I use athletic tape and the cutters are on Amazon. Here is an example. amzn.to/3RmGuvn
What an amazing concept Paul, Try using Paradigm grafting tape, the new growth can grows thru the tape
Yes, that's another interesting method. Thanks for watching.
Greetings,
The one label as DKS ( 2:00 time stamp) which variety is it ?
How much identification is possible ? How ?
Thankyou
Regards🙏
Hi, It's a Desert King Seedling I got from Richard Lee.
Thank you for your quick reply! So, I have a European FB friend that traveled in Asia--including China, where he observed hybrids that were reported to have originated in the laboratory. He explained to me they are like super hybrids. They are more than self-fertile, as they require no bees!!!??? They produce year-round, in a climate similar or worse than ours here in the So Cal... I was suspect of this recent information... but, the value of somaic hybrids is that they are the union of species not sexually compatable--hence this seems to offer an entirely new set of possibilities! In the laboratory origination they would/should be classified as GMO's... But I am not sure (i have doubts) if a natural fusion, as you have described could be labeled "Genetically Modified". Very fascinating at the very least... But, what this may information may create are fruits (most likely produced in Asia) sweet and beautiful, with variable colored flesh, and ultimately relatively inexpensive... As once the hybridss are "released" then they can be propagated. duplicated, much like the ones we grow now....
I find this very interesting, thanks for sharing!
Did you immediately pot the graft as is? Leave it in a greenhouse or outside in a shaded area? Was all the fruit from the initial test grafted plant the same new cross? Were all the blooms from that test plant the same on buds from all three sides of the graft? Curious.
I leave the grafts uncovered, in full shade on the outside of the greenhouse. I let it be for 4 weeks. Temperatures dip down into the upper 40's, yet the successful ones rooted all on their own while being taped up. It's probably best to do this in the beginning of the growing season.
Hey Paul, this is amazing!! I’m trying to replicate it myself and was wondering if you wrapped them in plastic to prevent drying out of if you just let them be?
Also did you root them in water?
Plastic can lead to bacteria and rot, so I don't use it anymore.
I have an unheated greenhouse and it's useful for another month in my climate. In the winter, use a grow light and/or a heating mat to root cuttings.
@@RAREDRAGONFRUIT grow light?
Hope Natural Mystic graft survives, that variety rots faster than other varieties. Looking forward to seeing outcome videos.
I hope so too! It was the first to shoot out a root while being wrapped up with tape. Good to know about the rot, my plant has been vigorous and happy so far.
Ill be trying this
Awesome! Give it a try.
You have protected the thorns in this application. It will give new branches from these thorns of grafted both sides. Will the properties of new branches sprouting from both sides of the grafted root be the same features?
I've tried both removing the thorns and leaving them. We have several grafts under evaluation
Frankenstein dragon fruit 😂
Haha, yes sir
Wow Paul! That is amazingly interesting! When I saw the Sugar Dragon hybrid I was amazed as I tried and failed with traditional breeding. I was telling Carlos Villamonte that Julio is so much better than I since he was able to achieve a hybrid cross and now I see he used this method! Amazing! I am curious to know if the result was accidental or intentional. And, where the idea originated... Also the Jade Red... Where did that originate as I have a Jade Red not released. It is suspect to heat damage/breakdown....
I believe the idea originated from a book that Mr. Wallace had, but am not 100% sure. I'll try to find out. There was another graft that had a successful union, but both of the cuttings grew separate and never formed a somatic fusion. It's probably like winning at the casino, but it will be fun to try and replicate success. As for Jade Red, this is not your plant, although I wish it was... Haha. This one came from The Land From Down Under... sacredgardenfrangipanis.com/shop/jade-red. Thanks for all that you do in the dragon fruit world.
@@RAREDRAGONFRUIT Maybe the Jade will perform in cooler climates, but the heat damage to the fruit is very real and very problematic! I allowed one grower in Ventura County to experiement and I am so glad it did not get released! I no longer grow it as the internal breakdown is sometimes "impossible" to detect as it appears pretty externally, but mush and rancid when cut open Super problematic!!!!!
Is this the only way of creating your own dragon fruit line?
Do you mean that this method will produce a new hybrid type of dragon fruit?
It's possible, but not a guarantee. This farm was able to do it...th-cam.com/video/qEpdBrQ0iuw/w-d-xo.html
Hello Paul,
Thanks
Do you have a video of the growth of the grafted dragon fruit after this video?
Hi, I posted a photo of one of the grafts the other day. I’ll do an update this season. m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=pfbid02Py2MQZLzELNn619cYDYUzkQheXwk1Gzt5yARbyaLryYaYvxVC9v7uF3djt7tMDPel&id=100063831241493&mibextid=qC1gEa
Was it successful?
Yes, I've fused cuttings together and got growth from them, but I will keep pruning off the new growth until it looks unique.
I wonder if you could also fuse the meristem of both cuttings together in the process. though it may be too difficult to achieve that way, I believe you may get better results if you were able to fuse them together without topping them
I thought the same thing, and will probably try it in the spring. I wanted to copy it as best as I could the way Julio did it.
No way..you go so far
This is what the person that had success did.
Btw is there any scientific research about how can the new growth that come out of this type of graft got new properties?
Look up "somatic hybrid" or "somatic fusion" and you can see what I found so far... I saw this plant and fruit back in 2019 and I was interested in it ever since. Hopefully we can learn more about it in the future.
I looked up somatic fusion/hybrid. That technique of "grafting" has nothing to do with the grafting we are doing with dragon fruit.
I'm afraid someone is trying to pull a fast one here. 😢
Hi. Any updates ?
Have a few with growth and a fusion.
Hi Paul! I like your videos a lot. Some of your tips are very helpful (I'm texting from Brazil, but the climate where i live is much alike what you get in San Diego). But I have a real doubt: how come a simple (but extense) paralelle graft create a genetic miscigenation/chimerization? I'm used to make new cultivars from cross-polination and produced some interesting variaties, but it's very unlikely that kind of grafting could result in any new variaties. Any explanation?
That is what every expert said at the Pitahaya Festival in 2019, yet this happened. It's probably because the grafted plants were young and undeveloped. I believe it's actually a "somatic fusion". Gardeners have debated for 100's of years if rootstock can affect scion. I think this is evidence that it's rare, but possible.
@@RAREDRAGONFRUIT that's interesting. Next fruit season you may have some solid answers. Good luck.