You don’t honestly think that Carlsen comes to the board sans deep preparation as well, do you? Both players prep lines they are looking to play - whether it be in game 1 or game 12 and it would be absurd to think otherwise.
You seem very stupid my good sir. Did you assume that Carlesn does not use a supercomputer to train against? Every player, even at national level here in India use engines to prepare because at chess computers are just too good.
How dumb are you, carlsen also prepares with a supercomputer, it's not instant genius every move. Please don't undermine caruana, if carlsen was in trouble, it's because of his own fault
Very nice video as always :) Im 23 years old and i just randomly found the Magnus Carlsen App a couple of weeks ago and thus discovered my hidden interest in this amazing game! better late then never right, it didnt take me long to stumble upon your videos soon after and i must say i highly enjoy listening to your analysis, always very detailed and well explained even for beginners like me! Im very curious how this Championship will end and looking forward to hearing your thoughts on all of the upcoming games :) Greetings from germany
@@malonchirara813 aww adorable :* so people in your social circle are icecream enthusiasts in their mid 20s? You must be some serious party animal ;) keep the ice cream and gimme the ketamine Buddy, daddy needs his kick!
We have a filmy saying in India....."Picture abhi baaki hai mere dost", which translates, the picture has yet to be completed my friend. Magnus is a bit out of shape before this game, but the way he handled 10 moves of preparations of team Caruana and blitzed in engine moves after that, shows how unbelievably powerful he is. I am very excited after this match. I don't know who will win ultimately but at least for me, Magnus Carlsen deserves to retain his title. Pardon my emotion but just sharing my opinion.
Nice comment. I'm impressed with Magnus, but I already was. I am now also very impressed with Fabi, who I thought was going to get slaughtered by Magnus. I hope Fabi can win it in the classical, because blitz with Carlsen will not be pretty.
@@kilimanjarno Totally agreed....but to be honest, only one issue is making things sour in my mind....For either side, 3-4 strong grandmasters aided with a supercomputer making preparations.....that means for 10-15 moves will be blitzed out without even thinking and those will be Engine moves......sadly the trend of top chess tournaments have come to this. If only there is something to stop this, otherwise chess will be over by next 10 years as computer of tomorrow might solve chess and predict, e4-e5 black down by 1 full point or something crazy like this....so no grandmaster will play e4-e5. Worried.
It seems to me that Carlsen isn't as prepared as Fabi. But at the same time, he is really good to fight against a well prepared guy. Fabi seems out of his depths a bit when he leaves is prepared lines.
Zac N That makes no sense. No one can memorize every move in any game. Is he prepared at the beginning, yes, but you can only plan so many moves, and that still wouldn’t explain Magnus’ non-wins with the white pieces
Seeing as how Caruana's game relies heavily on engine preparation I'd imagine the all time greats from Murphy to Capablanca, Tal would all root for Carlsen. His game has soul.
As always, Agadmator makes a game that I found dull watching in realtime much more human and deep with his color commentary and tactical digressions. Thanks, Mr. Agadmator!
I think it's a bit disingenuous to say that Carlsen was playing against an engine, almost completely taking the credit away from a 2800 player. Not the same is said when carlsen plays to his preparation, we do not know how much of the preparation was human contribution or indeed Caruana's contribution but to bluntly state that he is just playing against an engine is a but unfair on Fabiano.
True enough, but I think the meaning is that Magnus is playing against "half" an engine. He has to counter perfect memorized moves for the first half of the game, and it's nearly impossible for a human to come out of that equal. So he's gonna always be a little behind when it's human vs human.
I think it’s more than a bit unfair. I think some people are a little bit biased. Caruana can do no right in their eyes. If he didn’t play well they would just call him inferior. When he does play well, they say it’s just engine moves. People should give the man some credit.
@@PointlessNihilist I agree the criticism is a bit hyperbolic. I'm pretty sure everyone concedes that Caruana is a fantastic player, but I think most are just a little saddened that the "romantic" days of guys like Morphy and Tal are pretty much over, and if you don't memorize engine lines for 8 hrs a day, you're gonna be behind the 8 ball after 20 moves against someone who does.
What I notice is all the end games, nearly exactly, both men have the same pieces facing each other! This mirror imaging shows how they try to think hard what the other will do and end up Corsican twins.
well, it was Fabi who actually had the time advantage. His ability to memorize the perfect moves will come handy when the time pressure becomes gradually more urgent, imho.
That's why Carlsen is the real champion. He faced home preparation till move 20, while Caruana, after (soundly, I must admit) sacrificing a pawn, played the slow h3 and threw away his advantage. I can clearly see who is the best memorizer and who is the best player after these 8 games
Thank you for letting us see the game without giving away who won. I initially stayed away from the comments and enjoyed just watching you go through the game.
I think Carlsen will win the next game. This game tells us something crucial that I'm sure Carlsen understand now. Caruana without engine moves that he has memorized is not as strong as Carlsen. Not even near. So far, the entire series has been Caruana pressuring Carlsen and Carlsen escaping. Just like Caruana played that Rook move that got us the great Carlsen stare, Carlsen has to dare do the same thing. He has to play something which Caruana can't prepare for. Only that way will Carlsen be Victorious. I'm prediticting Carlsen wins 1 with the rest drawn.
Unfortunately, much more probable end is the lost of Carlsen to one of the Caruana's tricky openings. he was on the edge a lot of times, but only the end of Fabi's preparation and talant saved him - but how long it can continue? I like carlsen for his gift and sober reception of the game - but everybody had in school class mediocre guy with hypertrophed memory. He was beloved by teachers and hated by pupils - and succesful in learning...
Tks, I seem to have blended "know and how" into one word in my comment, but no matter. When I studied openings from books it had somewhat the same affect. I wonder sometimes how we learn. It seems to me we have to also unlearn.
First thinking move so deep in the game. Man was chess always like this, complete memorization of lines so deep in the game. Man that must be so many possibilities.
The next photo of the two of them shaking hands will show each lying on the floor next to the chess table: Fabiano exhausted from all his memorization exercises, and Magnus wiped out due to having to actually THINK his way through the minefields.
It's just part of Antonio's character to paint a picture of the scene. I think he is a very good chess journalist. Sometimes he could be more concise and he rambles at times but 300,000 subscribers means he must be doing very well.
I'll wake you up when there is something to report. The most exciting thing to happen so far is the reporting of Magnus' socks. If Fabi wears a crazy tie all hell might break loose.
First of all, thank you, agdamator, for the excellent commentaries on this match. As to your question of thoughts on the match, I agree with one of your remarks from a previous video that rules should be introduced to favor playing more risky positions. Possibly keep the current champion if the challenger can't win by a point in regular play. True, they are also insanely good with shorter time controls, but I miss the great matches we used to see from Tal, Fischer, and Kasparov with long time controls. I'm not yet convinced that computers have completely killed the possibility of Tal-like creativity, but we're certainly not seeing it here.
@Remi Rivera - Seeing as some chess sets use artillery in place of the rook, perhaps the socks are code for Carlsen's plan to achieve dominance through his rooks?
Thanks and congrats with a great channel, it contributes to increasing the quality of chess as a spectator sport, most needed for the game. Funfact from this game: The red socks you mention in this video are actually according to Magnus the same NBA socks he wore for his win game against Karjakin in the 2016 Match. So after a second spectacular World Championship game, I guess when the red NBS socks are out, we are actually watching Super-Magnus :) He even switched back to black/normal socks after Caruanas h3 move! :D
i feel like fabis prep is so much better than carlsens for some reason. I mean imo Carlsen is the better player, but fabi seems like he is better prepared and shapes the games that way. I may be wrong tho.
Caruana is relying much more on preparation than over the board thinking, opposite to Carlsen. However, in games where Fabi is white, he decides the lines the game can go into, so his preparation will be much more apparent, such as in this game, since he prepared everything that could come out of this position for the first 20 or so moves.
You're not by any means the hardest working man in chess Agad.... But you might be the hardest working commentator. And I love watching your coverage of this WCC :)
It’s futile to ask for no spoiler. After all we all love to stroke our own ego. “I’m the first to such and such.” Much respect to your channel. Give me joy immensely. It saddens me a bit to know it’s outcome before I can enjoy your analysis. But. Then. If it’s free, no place for me to complain. Much ado about nothing (apologies to The Bard).
While it was a draw, it was still probably the sharpest and most exciting game played in the match so far. I hope one of them manages a win soon though! Lol
Is there a potential win with Be7+ followed by either Rf6+ or Rd8+? I don't know if If there's a way to get Sesse to show the decision tree past the move 38 when looking at alternative moves. The options I'm seeing only show Bg5 following Be7+ Ke8.
Came back after 5 years, as to study this variation for white side against the sveshnikov sicilian, 7. Nd5 with 8...Nb8 variation. good model game for study.
Carlsen is a better "chess" player. Caruana is very good at using the super -engines and memorizing those lines. As an American it's hard for me to admit, but i'm for Carlsen. I'm for old chess.
@@mattUniversityofMinnesota All the grandmasters do it, though. Including Magnus. You have to to be competitive these days. It's a shame, but that's the game.
I love that the world chess championship goes to rapid and blitz if classical games are all even. The reason for this is because with the power of these new super computers chess is veering away from a game about deductive logic and strategy and turning into a memorization game. If chess fully turns into a memorization game it's done and no one will watch or be interested in it. Caruana is less of a great chess player and more of an expert at memorization. Were as carlen is truly a master chess player.
As much as i hope that would happen. It wouldn't be his best move because in rapid and blitz Magnus destroys caruana. Imo caruana should change up a little.
@@PDJMDS It's just probability... Scicilian and Ruy Lopez are the best opening to draw a game. Since Magnus is stronger than caruana in rapid why would he play differently ? A draw mean a win for him. Then if Curuana want to go for King's gambit or bird opening he can but he would be crushed for sure.
For those stating Caruana just runs bot lines and can't play well outside of prepared moves, this game was unique after move 13. Caruana held an advantage until the high 20s to even 31. He's a perfectly exceptional player, he is just facing someone who knows how to force a draw. Something to also note is that there are very few preparations one can make as black, when facing Magnus. Yet, Caruana has managed to force a draw as black 4 times so far. Pick your favorite, pretend there's an subtle or obvious edge to one or another; but in reality these guys are truly as close as two elite players can get with either being a mistake or even an inaccuracy away from being the WCC.
The thing is that a game being "unique" doesn't mean anything anymore. No humans have played it in competition for Caruana to study but he very likely studied engine lines several moves past that point, so what's the difference? In reality, Caruana played about 20 engine moves on a line he thought might confuse Magnus and it only took Magnus about 10 moves truly head to head to negate the advantage the computer found. This one game doesn't mean Caruana sucks, but it's pretty embarrassing that even when the computer gets him an advantage he can't hold it.
@@alienrenders Paradoxically, he also was the hardest worker ever...with Alekhine and Kasparov. Basically, I think the "laziest" World Champions have been Spassky, who couldn't be bothered to lift a finger to try and save his crown in 1972, and Karpov, who worked like mad for the match against the aforementioned American chicken and relied on that work for 10 years afterwards, thus preventing himself to reach even greater heights, in spite of his phenomenal talent.
as you said agad. Carlsen is a very strong player and from my point of view in all the 8 games he tried to be more creative than just take engine lines. on the other hand they really should do something about super computers or chess will be history.. by the nice job agad and keep it up. also if you can continue the series of world champions most likely kasparov
After this game I hope Carlsen wins, at least he tries to imbalance the game, Caruana plays engine lines and hopes that Carlsen doesn't come out with the best solution, when he does, Caruana offers a draw...
Carlsen offers a draw because he knows in blitz will defeat Caruana in a second. Caruana just offers a draw because he has no idea what the engine did and he has no confidence in his end game, since engines cannot tell him what to do then.
The rating shown is probably the last official monthly(?) rating published by FIDE, although "live ratings" are possible to calculate after individual games.
I'm not into chess much though I did play it when I was in my teenage years, but this has turned into a one boring championship. The only bright side in this is AGADMATOR storytelling and analysis that makes it interesting.
The games are great, the players are great of course, the two strongest grandmasters of the world now, but nevertheless, I cannot deny a feeling of disappointment as far as I'm concerned...
Chess 960 the rest of the match ! Look these two 2800 jokers solved chess ! How tf do they ever lose a tournament game ?? I guess Bobby was right ! I dismiss the claims that current Magnus would beat 1972 Bobby simply on theory . Bobby’s ghost would’ve found the wins over the board ! Maybe Feingold was right ! Very suspicious
I would have to agree. Bobby could play engine chess an entire game, but also play positional chess when he had to. No one else can do that. So if Bobby was playing someone today who studies engine chess, and Bobby plays a positional move, his opponent would be lost. His opponent would have to play engine chess the rest of the newly played game just to draw.
Lets even the odds. If bobby was around today he would also be studying engine lines. With knowledge of chess and engine help he would crush carlsen. Bobby didnt have engines and he played like one. Having one he would be unstoppable.
Caruana’s preparation seems to consistently get him into better positions but he can’t translate them into wins!
Because he looses it when he runs out of his preparation. Look at this Rapid rating.
@@Nizidramanyt thats a very good point. maybe caruanas only strength is his ability to follow engine lines
his memory card ran out of space
Yeah this is ridiculous. It exposes him for not being a real chess player. He's a memorizer of computer lines.
I agree 100%
1.e4 c5, and in this position players agreed to a draw...
Kutay Aydın and get some delicious Turkish foods afterward
@@jeffkuroda7461 they assigned the supercomputer choosing the best possible kebap
Kutay Aydın hahahahahahaha what city are you from in turkey?
@@kutayaydn2024 kebap wonderland
Jeff Kuroda From Istanbul
In 2018 GMs try to remember computer lines to the 20th move
Its a shame to have a world champ based on memorization of engine lines. Thats why I like Carlsen more. He is purer player than Caruana in that regard
It would be interesting if the two players were sequestered for the entire tournament. No engines, no Internet.
@@FloydMaxwell it would definitely lead to more interesting matches
Adnan Halitovic yes that's why he is a monster in shorter time controlls where intution and pure talent is more important than memorisation of lines
"Still theory" - GM Ben Finegold
This match keeps reminding me of Fischer’s thoughts on modern chess.
what he said?
For real bro, he was sick of it all, just as I am.
thank you man. ı have a same feelings too. ı belevie this is the only way and ınhope its being proved with this match up
The gentleman in the picture is the CEO of DeepMind, Demis Hassabis! :)
What agadmator said when he was born : Hello everyone
Now what is the idea here
@@wicked5999 ahahahahhahahahahahahhaahhahahahahahaha you just made my day thanks
It will be 12 draws, Anish Giri would be proud
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@Klaas van Strien - Thanks, Ben
@Klaas van Strien lol go ben
@@generalthl8078 Grandmaster Ben
@@mirsadajdari well hello there
Some witnesses said that Carlsen when shaking Caruana's hand said "Good luck" and Fabi reply was "Beep!"
nicolashrv
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Beep boop, son. Beep boop.
Fischer Random Chess is looking more and more appealing.
People generally do not like random opening Chess. It makes the game worse and does not remove draws.
True, but sentiments may slowly be changing. I love and prefer classical chess, but Fischer Random chess certainly has its place.
@@jasonleetaiwan those that do not like it are those who relies completely on openings and memorization, players without creativity
After Carlsen and Caruana took a seat they agreed to a draw
This one sounds interesting and funny..
literally laughed out loud
Carlsen and Caruana shook hands and it was at this position they agreed to a draw. Brilliant.
@@boriskoblents8586 Next game maybe they'll just phone it in?
@@davidanderson_surrey_bc Maybe they can arrange some celebrities to shake hands and agree on draw for them :)
Carlsen is a monstor...defending against fabi's such...deep preparations...with just his skills...means a lot...👏👏
Couldn't agree with you more!
Agree,but wait till the rapids
You don’t honestly think that Carlsen comes to the board sans deep preparation as well, do you? Both players prep lines they are looking to play - whether it be in game 1 or game 12 and it would be absurd to think otherwise.
You seem very stupid my good sir. Did you assume that Carlesn does not use a supercomputer to train against? Every player, even at national level here in India use engines to prepare because at chess computers are just too good.
How dumb are you, carlsen also prepares with a supercomputer, it's not instant genius every move. Please don't undermine caruana, if carlsen was in trouble, it's because of his own fault
Just came to hear him say "chief arbiter Lothar Schmid"
We need a Tshirt with this sentence :D
Gosh, yes, please!
i dont get why its supposed to be funny
Yeah like Scy said, could you please explain the joke?
Follow the bobby vs spasky series and you’ll get it
Another day another draw
Another one!
I wish this comment wasn't first on the list. Spoiler alert no surprise though
PISS OFF GHOST!!
What ist Whit your voice?
Came to the comment section to search for the name of the gentleman but thanks for ruining the excitement of the game for me
Magnus is going to win this and retain his title and that forecast by the little girl is going to be true. Carlsen - eiwin..
Caruana - ou nou...
The Battle of the Goats.
Very nice video as always :) Im 23 years old and i just randomly found the Magnus Carlsen App a couple of weeks ago and thus discovered my hidden interest in this amazing game! better late then never right, it didnt take me long to stumble upon your videos soon after and i must say i highly enjoy listening to your analysis, always very detailed and well explained even for beginners like me! Im very curious how this Championship will end and looking forward to hearing your thoughts on all of the upcoming games :) Greetings from germany
give that excited kid an icecream already!! :)
@@malonchirara813 aww adorable :* so people in your social circle are icecream enthusiasts in their mid 20s? You must be some serious party animal ;) keep the ice cream and gimme the ketamine Buddy, daddy needs his kick!
We have a filmy saying in India....."Picture abhi baaki hai mere dost", which translates, the picture has yet to be completed my friend.
Magnus is a bit out of shape before this game, but the way he handled 10 moves of preparations of team Caruana and blitzed in engine moves after that, shows how unbelievably powerful he is. I am very excited after this match. I don't know who will win ultimately but at least for me, Magnus Carlsen deserves to retain his title. Pardon my emotion but just sharing my opinion.
Nice words.
Nice comment. I'm impressed with Magnus, but I already was. I am now also very impressed with Fabi, who I thought was going to get slaughtered by Magnus. I hope Fabi can win it in the classical, because blitz with Carlsen will not be pretty.
Picture Abhi baki hai mere dost. Fabi will strike hard. #GoFabi
@@kilimanjarno Totally agreed....but to be honest, only one issue is making things sour in my mind....For either side, 3-4 strong grandmasters aided with a supercomputer making preparations.....that means for 10-15 moves will be blitzed out without even thinking and those will be Engine moves......sadly the trend of top chess tournaments have come to this. If only there is something to stop this, otherwise chess will be over by next 10 years as computer of tomorrow might solve chess and predict, e4-e5 black down by 1 full point or something crazy like this....so no grandmaster will play e4-e5. Worried.
I agree with you 10000%
Seems like Magnus lost his desire to win, but man his desire to not lose is definitely burning hot
There is something terribly frustrating and also wonderfully exciting about all of the draws. It’s great to see Magnus legitimately challenged.
It seems to me that Carlsen isn't as prepared as Fabi. But at the same time, he is really good to fight against a well prepared guy. Fabi seems out of his depths a bit when he leaves is prepared lines.
essentially, fabi has a better memory and carlsen is a more skilled chess player
@@zac8766 Precisely that! I couldn't agree more!
Zac N If he’s so skilled, how is it tied?
@@andrewptob because caruana has a better memory...
Zac N That makes no sense. No one can memorize every move in any game. Is he prepared at the beginning, yes, but you can only plan so many moves, and that still wouldn’t explain Magnus’ non-wins with the white pieces
2:01 The excellent post-game analysis I was looking for. Thanks Antonio
Seeing as how Caruana's game relies heavily on engine preparation I'd imagine the all time greats from Murphy to Capablanca, Tal would all root for Carlsen. His game has soul.
But legally and sadly we cannot oppose opening learnings
As always, Agadmator makes a game that I found dull watching in realtime much more human and deep with his color commentary and tactical digressions. Thanks, Mr. Agadmator!
It seems Anish Giri vs Anish Giri
varad kousadikar ahahhahahah, or maybe Anish Giri vs Drawn Liren xd or more likely Drawsen vs Drawuana
Drawn Liren Xd
Are you trying to say that both players are douchebags?
@@nich3683 Anish is an exceptionally strong player! :-O He's no douchebag.
srinivasa prasannaa strong players can be douchebags
I think it's a bit disingenuous to say that Carlsen was playing against an engine, almost completely taking the credit away from a 2800 player. Not the same is said when carlsen plays to his preparation, we do not know how much of the preparation was human contribution or indeed Caruana's contribution but to bluntly state that he is just playing against an engine is a but unfair on Fabiano.
True enough, but I think the meaning is that Magnus is playing against "half" an engine. He has to counter perfect memorized moves for the first half of the game, and it's nearly impossible for a human to come out of that equal. So he's gonna always be a little behind when it's human vs human.
I think it’s more than a bit unfair. I think some people are a little bit biased. Caruana can do no right in their eyes. If he didn’t play well they would just call him inferior. When he does play well, they say it’s just engine moves. People should give the man some credit.
@@PointlessNihilist
I agree the criticism is a bit hyperbolic. I'm pretty sure everyone concedes that Caruana is a fantastic player, but I think most are just a little saddened that the "romantic" days of guys like Morphy and Tal are pretty much over, and if you don't memorize engine lines for 8 hrs a day, you're gonna be behind the 8 ball after 20 moves against someone who does.
it's unfair
8 draws, still 4 more to go :)
Caruana's engine is giving Carlsen a good game - unfortunately, the same cannot be said of Caruana himself.
What I notice is all the end games, nearly exactly, both men have the same pieces facing each other! This mirror imaging shows how they try to think hard what the other will do and end up Corsican twins.
HELLO EVERYONE!!!!!!
It's a bit annoying that he always makes this the loudest word in the video XD
I already know how it will end: Carlsen will win the blitz part of the championship and retain his title
I want that too but fabi momorized lines to 20 moves
Even when you know.....you don't really know (this is an old gambler's proverb).
well, it was Fabi who actually had the time advantage. His ability to memorize the perfect moves will come handy when the time pressure becomes gradually more urgent, imho.
Good guess
Rapid*
That's why Carlsen is the real champion. He faced home preparation till move 20, while Caruana, after (soundly, I must admit) sacrificing a pawn, played the slow h3 and threw away his advantage. I can clearly see who is the best memorizer and who is the best player after these 8 games
Is there a law against good preparation? Carlsen could have done the same.
Thank you for letting us see the game without giving away who won. I initially stayed away from the comments and enjoyed just watching you go through the game.
I think Carlsen will win the next game. This game tells us something crucial that I'm sure Carlsen understand now. Caruana without engine moves that he has memorized is not as strong as Carlsen. Not even near. So far, the entire series has been Caruana pressuring Carlsen and Carlsen escaping. Just like Caruana played that Rook move that got us the great Carlsen stare, Carlsen has to dare do the same thing. He has to play something which Caruana can't prepare for. Only that way will Carlsen be Victorious.
I'm prediticting Carlsen wins 1 with the rest drawn.
Unfortunately, much more probable end is the lost of Carlsen to one of the Caruana's tricky openings. he was on the edge a lot of times, but only the end of Fabi's preparation and talant saved him - but how long it can continue? I like carlsen for his gift and sober reception of the game - but everybody had in school class mediocre guy with hypertrophed memory. He was beloved by teachers and hated by pupils - and succesful in learning...
Great presentation...much thanks !
The engines kill your creativity. Because they bring you to a place you don't how you got to.
Tks, I seem to have blended "know and how" into one word in my comment, but no matter. When I studied openings from books it had somewhat the same affect. I wonder sometimes how we learn. It seems to me we have to also unlearn.
Love your channel, content, personality, medo - first rate!
The gentleman is Demis Hassabis, known for Deepmind
Legend says that they are still playing together, drawing or even better, drawning
Well done to Ivan Saric!
draw again that's great from the best two players , I really was waiting for this game from your Chanel thank you
Getting a winning position and converting it are very different things.
First thinking move so deep in the game. Man was chess always like this, complete memorization of lines so deep in the game. Man that must be so many possibilities.
I've got an Accounting exam tomorrow, but I just had to wait for this video before going on to sleep..
Don't forget to give your answers a second check mate.
@@Robert_DeVille I see what you did there. I certainly will second check them, I don't wanna blunder my responses to the questions.
The Almighty K good luck man, you will crush it!
@@sphamandlangidi749 Make sure you get a good knight's sleep & don't stay up watching pawn.
I am in Australia, 11 hours ahead of London time. Match runs 2am to about 6am or beyond. My eyes are hanging out of my head!
This game is actually great, Magnus is a beast.
Keep good work agadmator, we love you
_Of course Drawsen and Drawana would make unbeatable record for drawing the game forever_
I agree with you...this game is win for calrsen
I never thought handshake analysis would be the interesting part of this world chess championship!
The next photo of the two of them shaking hands will show each lying on the floor next to the chess table: Fabiano exhausted from all his memorization exercises, and Magnus wiped out due to having to actually THINK his way through the minefields.
It's just part of Antonio's character to paint a picture of the scene. I think he is a very good chess journalist. Sometimes he could be more concise and he rambles at times but 300,000 subscribers means he must be doing very well.
Very much a cliff hanger! Both are just SO good. They are going to make Alexander Grishchuks' dream come true maybe even! Unbelievable! Thanks.
so the next world champion will be some random Rain Man who can memorize thousands of engine lines
budes matpicu lol lol. That was a good one!
Are you Håkon from quora?
@Håkon I raise you Rashid, Tal, Fisher, Capablanca, Karpov, Sultan Khan, Seigov, Ding Liren.
Zaarc Baan half of those players are famous for their exceptional memory.
... while flying to the match site aboard Qantas Airlines.
Thanks for uploading the video.
Please don’t tell me it’s another draw
Then I won't tell
Sorry
Please don't tell me it's another E4 beginning
It's another draw
I'll wake you up when there is something to report. The most exciting thing to happen so far is the reporting of Magnus' socks. If Fabi wears a crazy tie all hell might break loose.
Just noticed the new background image, very nice.
At least let's hope for the c6-c5 joke! :)
And Agadmator, I think you blundered the date in the description, today is actually the 19th
First of all, thank you, agdamator, for the excellent commentaries on this match. As to your question of thoughts on the match, I agree with one of your remarks from a previous video that rules should be introduced to favor playing more risky positions. Possibly keep the current champion if the challenger can't win by a point in regular play. True, they are also insanely good with shorter time controls, but I miss the great matches we used to see from Tal, Fischer, and Kasparov with long time controls. I'm not yet convinced that computers have completely killed the possibility of Tal-like creativity, but we're certainly not seeing it here.
At some point engine gave +1.40 advantage for Caruana, so sad he couldn't use it :(
He couldn't use it because he didn't remember more engine lines
agadmator's draw channel
Bravo Saric!
Red hot socks and soles of silicon on shoes. Nice match.
@Remi Rivera - Seeing as some chess sets use artillery in place of the rook, perhaps the socks are code for Carlsen's plan to achieve dominance through his rooks?
I enjoyed your analysis 👍
That is Demis Hassabis, founder of DeepMind! :)
Thanks and congrats with a great channel, it contributes to increasing the quality of chess as a spectator sport, most needed for the game. Funfact from this game: The red socks you mention in this video are actually according to Magnus the same NBA socks he wore for his win game against Karjakin in the 2016 Match. So after a second spectacular World Championship game, I guess when the red NBS socks are out, we are actually watching Super-Magnus :) He even switched back to black/normal socks after Caruanas h3 move! :D
i feel like fabis prep is so much better than carlsens for some reason. I mean imo Carlsen is the better player, but fabi seems like he is better prepared and shapes the games that way. I may be wrong tho.
Caruana is relying much more on preparation than over the board thinking, opposite to Carlsen. However, in games where Fabi is white, he decides the lines the game can go into, so his preparation will be much more apparent, such as in this game, since he prepared everything that could come out of this position for the first 20 or so moves.
The thought behind the title is excellent. 👌
21:10 _We alyways knew it goin to happen_
Its 2am here but still gonna watch. You are the best agadmator. Love from 🇳🇵
I congratulate you first comes! You guys are excellent subscribers!
You're not by any means the hardest working man in chess Agad.... But you might be the hardest working commentator. And I love watching your coverage of this WCC :)
Who else scrolls down on the end first to see if it’s a draw
I was going to and your comment reminded me why I shouldn't. So I stopped at your comment.
The tittle should be "Drawasen vs Drawana".😂😂
What's the point? I love these videos cause they're intense and exciting. I lose most of my interest if I know the outcome.
Kevin Williams you're totally right,,😂😂
Yes I do, I wanted to check the outcome to see if any of them made any progress.
It’s futile to ask for no spoiler. After all we all love to stroke our own ego.
“I’m the first to such and such.” Much respect to your channel. Give me joy immensely.
It saddens me a bit to know it’s outcome before I can enjoy your analysis.
But. Then. If it’s free, no place for me to complain.
Much ado about nothing (apologies to The Bard).
The man the myth the legend
Demis Hassabis
It's amazing that Caruana could memorize so many moves but even greater of Carlsen who could resist against 20 engine moves.
While it was a draw, it was still probably the sharpest and most exciting game played in the match so far. I hope one of them manages a win soon though! Lol
Is there a potential win with Be7+ followed by either Rf6+ or Rd8+? I don't know if If there's a way to get Sesse to show the decision tree past the move 38 when looking at alternative moves. The options I'm seeing only show Bg5 following Be7+ Ke8.
Tata steel chess india 2018 is quite interesting than this world drawnship
Yes pragg and naka match was awesome:) Pragg will be very dangerous with a bit more experience.
Came back after 5 years, as to study this variation for white side against the sveshnikov sicilian, 7. Nd5 with 8...Nb8 variation. good model game for study.
Carlsen is a better "chess" player. Caruana is very good at using the super -engines and memorizing those lines. As an American it's hard for me to admit, but i'm for Carlsen. I'm for old chess.
RIGHT ON. I'm also USA, but see Caruana's prep and memorizing as a sort of form of cheating. Go Magnus.
@@mattUniversityofMinnesota All the grandmasters do it, though. Including Magnus. You have to to be competitive these days. It's a shame, but that's the game.
I love that the world chess championship goes to rapid and blitz if classical games are all even. The reason for this is because with the power of these new super computers chess is veering away from a game about deductive logic and strategy and turning into a memorization game. If chess fully turns into a memorization game it's done and no one will watch or be interested in it. Caruana is less of a great chess player and more of an expert at memorization. Were as carlen is truly a master chess player.
Next game with white carlsen will come with an opening that has not been played in this championship yet and he'll crush Caruana
As much as i hope that would happen. It wouldn't be his best move because in rapid and blitz Magnus destroys caruana. Imo caruana should change up a little.
No he will go for scicilian or Ruy Lopez. Come on it s world champ it s not time for troll. He s waiting for rapid.
@@timespaice you don't get that choice as white, you play e4 and black is not obliged to play a ruy lopez or sicilian
@@PDJMDS It's just probability... Scicilian and Ruy Lopez are the best opening to draw a game. Since Magnus is stronger than caruana in rapid why would he play differently ? A draw mean a win for him. Then if Curuana want to go for King's gambit or bird opening he can but he would be crushed for sure.
Lucas Barbieri I hope
most exciting game so far.
For those stating Caruana just runs bot lines and can't play well outside of prepared moves, this game was unique after move 13. Caruana held an advantage until the high 20s to even 31. He's a perfectly exceptional player, he is just facing someone who knows how to force a draw. Something to also note is that there are very few preparations one can make as black, when facing Magnus. Yet, Caruana has managed to force a draw as black 4 times so far.
Pick your favorite, pretend there's an subtle or obvious edge to one or another; but in reality these guys are truly as close as two elite players can get with either being a mistake or even an inaccuracy away from being the WCC.
The thing is that a game being "unique" doesn't mean anything anymore. No humans have played it in competition for Caruana to study but he very likely studied engine lines several moves past that point, so what's the difference? In reality, Caruana played about 20 engine moves on a line he thought might confuse Magnus and it only took Magnus about 10 moves truly head to head to negate the advantage the computer found.
This one game doesn't mean Caruana sucks, but it's pretty embarrassing that even when the computer gets him an advantage he can't hold it.
its been the most enjoyable game so far
The result is now four to four we got four more games before we fore fore four for
Kiitos videosta!
13:46 You want at least one rook on e1 !?
If Hoodieguy had been allowed to double his rooks on e1 he might have won some games.
Best game so far.
I hope that Magnus plays an unpredictable hypermodern opening in the Rapid tiebreak to throw off Caruana's prep.
So far this match has been about what I expected from the 2 highest rated players in the world.
Bobby Fischer would not be proud with such a World Chess Championship
Fischer was the worst jerk ever to appear on the chess scene, followed closely by Kasparov and Carlsen.
Fischer hated chess because he knew it would eventually lead to memorization. Don't blame the players. Blame the game.
@@alienrenders Paradoxically, he also was the hardest worker ever...with Alekhine and Kasparov.
Basically, I think the "laziest" World Champions have been Spassky, who couldn't be bothered to lift a finger to try and save his crown in 1972, and Karpov, who worked like mad for the match against the aforementioned American chicken and relied on that work for 10 years afterwards, thus preventing himself to reach even greater heights, in spite of his phenomenal talent.
Nice! Welcome to the 2700 Club, Ivan Saric. Hopefully you'll encounter other 2700 GMs so you can play against them too. Enjoy your stay!
as you said agad. Carlsen is a very strong player and from my point of view in all the 8 games he tried to be more creative than just take engine lines. on the other hand they really should do something about super computers or chess will be history.. by the nice job agad and keep it up. also if you can continue the series of world champions most likely kasparov
2018 World Draw Championship. Thanks for analysis as usual
23 minute video posted 4 minutes ago. Already has 100+ likes lol
Can’t wait for the rapid blitz games!
After this game I hope Carlsen wins, at least he tries to imbalance the game, Caruana plays engine lines and hopes that Carlsen doesn't come out with the best solution, when he does, Caruana offers a draw...
Carlsen offers a draw because he knows in blitz will defeat Caruana in a second. Caruana just offers a draw because he has no idea what the engine did and he has no confidence in his end game, since engines cannot tell him what to do then.
rapid games = 1000% win for carlsen
@@nicolashrv I agree, but the only one trying to win is Carlsen in both last games...
Ahh, so much earlier now with discord. Thanks agad!
Question to every chess buff reading this : how is the ELO calculated, and shouldn't it change between each game?
It should if someone won, but they are so close in rating that a draw moves it only a few thousandths of a point afair
The rating shown is probably the last official monthly(?) rating published by FIDE, although "live ratings" are possible to calculate after individual games.
I'm not into chess much though I did play it when I was in my teenage years, but this has turned into a one boring championship. The only bright side in this is AGADMATOR storytelling and analysis that makes it interesting.
The games are great, the players are great of course, the two strongest grandmasters of the world now, but nevertheless, I cannot deny a feeling of disappointment as far as I'm concerned...
that's rly nice handshake, one of my favourite
Clearly, no matter how many lines Caruana remembers it's still not enough for lazy Carlsen.
Amazing Magnus. Win for you!!!!!
Chess 960 the rest of the match ! Look these two 2800 jokers solved chess ! How tf do they ever lose a tournament game ?? I guess Bobby was right ! I dismiss the claims that current Magnus would beat 1972 Bobby simply on theory . Bobby’s ghost would’ve found the wins over the board ! Maybe Feingold was right ! Very suspicious
Carlsen is miles ahead Fischer, also don't forget Fischer drew 7 games in 1972.
I would have to agree. Bobby could play engine chess an entire game, but also play positional chess when he had to. No one else can do that. So if Bobby was playing someone today who studies engine chess, and Bobby plays a positional move, his opponent would be lost. His opponent would have to play engine chess the rest of the newly played game just to draw.
Lets even the odds. If bobby was around today he would also be studying engine lines. With knowledge of chess and engine help he would crush carlsen. Bobby didnt have engines and he played like one. Having one he would be unstoppable.
Good analysis bud