Jimmy feels extremely educated with the subjects he talks about , i think it's very good that a person like him who left the right and managed to understand the current issues without falling into another hole
He's a bloke who genuinely cared about the things he believed in, took a critical look and was "material analysis"-pilled while doing his own research on a matter he was going to make a video on. That is to say, he might not actually be extremely educated but he seems intellectually honest enough to go and learn before spouting nonsense just to grift. I don't know if he actually has any formal education, my guess is he doesn't, he just cares... which is all the more impressive.
What’s crazy is how similar his story was to mine politically. I mean personally, a lot of different specifics, but the bigger picture of his story was basically the same. And I’ve been like a very stable commie for 2-3 years now. The thing is I know I could never get brought back. Once you realise the game, and you drink the propaganda, and realise it’s propaganda… you can’t unsee it. No amount of grievance politics could shift me back to the right.
yeah i get skeptical about 'why i left the right' folks cause a lot of them turn into social democrats and continue the left-punching, jimmy seems like a good dude though, genuinely open-minded
@@bnnyhop this is why reading theory is so important Leaving the right is one thing , pushing yourself to the left is another Sometimes people fail the last step
Ive enjoyed Jimmys arc so much- he just used to talk about british culture through the times (hooliganism, chavs and so on), but then his videos went into more depth, talking about Thatcherism and so forth. Love him man, hope he keeps going
Honestly I think this guy would be really good outreach for reactionary people, because not only was he in their shoes but he seems to intuitively know how to frame these issues in a way that right wingers to be receptive to. Sure he’s not a full on socialist, but the state of the world would be a lot better if your average conservative were instead a social democrat.
it's like former addicts making the best counselors for people in active addiction. you just know what they are going through and how to reach out to them
It's insane his story is almost exactly how I arrived at the left. He explains it so well too, I really think he could be a great starting point for a lot of conservatives.
How you phrased this, is a big part of the problem. He isnt a full on socialist and thats the reason he knows what arguments are good. Most arguments from more left leaning people always include a "I am superior to you because I actually understand this topic and am more educated" with them. I would refuse to listen to that as well haha
@nottherealChickenJoe as someone who is left wing, maybe even leaning to the "far left", I never say pr act superior, I have a friend who's far right and he's the one I'd say acts superior and thinks it's me who's uneducated on this stuff. On the occasions I say "you need to look into this more" I say it after letting him talk for ages and I frame it as "you've only read what you want to read, you need to read both sides of the argument". The best e ample j cam give is when he said, full chest, that there had been 1.3 million illegal immigrants (his wording) that came into britian, I asked him where he got that number from, he then linked me a newspaper article that made the claim. So I said "right, you might want to to look into this a bit more, because 1.3 million coming in would be more than 5,000 a day, and given that the record wasn't even 1,000 then that number isn't possible" he did eventually drop that number .... but then rather than admit he was wrong said even 1 coming in was too much.
@@Novostealswhile I value and appreciate these two guys' discourse in the mainstream online environment, clearly dominated by the alt-right, i'm disappointed that they never cite women and almost never chat to women in their videos. I completely understand a young lad will empathise more with another man, but I will expect more from an adult man, especially a leftist adult man (yes, I do think we are morally superior to the right). So, it's not really a critique, I do like their content, but an invitation to ask themselves some questions.
@KatStr4t and it's not particularly useful to be so conceited in your moral superiority that you think addressing the issue of men escaping indoctrination by the alt right - which is as even you admit pretty specifically a problem of men - is less important than appealing to people who are not the target demographic. If this was specifically about how the alt right damages and oppresses women I'd agree with you 100%. But it isn't. Similarly, it is not an unfair critique of Hassan more broadly. But that broadly fair and accurate critique is, to be entirely frank, completely irrelevant to the content and value of the conversation being had. It's about a man sharing his experience as he managed to claw his way out of the manosphere. Which by necessity, in this instance, requires it be men that do the talking.
While I dint fully know what his stance is politically, I think gary linekar going against rhe reanda scheme helped some (while the far right decided he was evil)
Labor's going down the drain and now they're doing all they can to try get support again. The social media ban is complete BS, like they KNOW it's over for them. I do fear that the Greens lack legitimacy for a lot of Aussies. Like I think if you asked anyone above 40 about them, they'd just think they're gay tree huggers who wanna legalise cannabis. Which like kinda true, but I fear that Labor's flop is just gonna lead to more support for the Liberals. It's kinda analogous to the U.S support for the Republicans. Inflation and cost of living is ridiculous right now, so nobody likes Albo. But I have hope! In this lifetime I can see the Greens winning more Aussies over 🤞But before that happens, I fear Aussies will probs experience someone insane like Dutton as PM 😤
Although, look at the QLD state election. Centre right Labor was extremely unpopular and Labor Left almost won an election with only 11 months in office. Took votes back from the Green and the Teals. This then triggered Albo to announce the HECS debt forgiveness. I think we might be heading in the right direction in Australia at least
Saw Jimmy's video and was really moved that someone had that kind of self awareness to do what he did. He seems like a genuinely intelligent and curious guy who wants real answers to real questions. World needs more like him.
I used to like Jimmy the Giant back in the day, then saw all his shitty conservative videos so lost interest. It’s heartwarming to see him being open minded and honest about his views.
Dang I wonder if hasan has seen dark matter and his recent crusade against the indoctrination and dogma of maga on the young men They’ve been r really good and informative videos like the rest of his videos for past 16 years
That was an enjoyable listen. I saw Jimmy's video before Hasan reacted to it and had him on. It's cool seeing two content creators I enjoy link up like Wade and Lebron
I appreciate a person who is humble enough to change their opinion. Jimmy is doing important work by explaining how he got into the pipeline and how he got out of it. definitely educational ✌️
As an old school parkour guy I've been watching Jimmy on and off since he more or less created his channel. I absolutely loved his video on escaping the alt right pipeline and was stoked to see you guys engaging like this. would love to see more of you guys colabing
I went through the exact same journey as Jimmy did. Glad the phenomenon of escaping the alt-right pipeline is gaining more attention and more people are going through the same journey, too! :)
He's a normal guy but smarter than most. He is passionate and serious which does not appeal to the cheeky lads but doesn't mean his content is not excellent
@@kakirin there's nothing wrong with admitting your own ignorance but making political statements to a big audience while openly saying you actually have no idea what you're talking about is just embarrassing. Like he says "I follow politics a lot" while then showing he knows little.
to be fair I think folks tend to say this when they have a good idea of what theyre trying to express but can’t cite it verbatim, like you don’t want to be misleading but but are like 80% there
I doubt it, Ethan was always a liberal. Hasan has had pretty intense debates with him on the merits of capitalist vs democratized businesses where he showed earlier signs of being REALLY stubborn on certain issues. This dude, on the other hand, seems like he actually subscribes to left-wing ideology. Not just the social/culture issues.
Ethan has the moral backbone of a chocolate eclair and memed himself into political discourse he had no business taking part in. This guy actually cares to understand and listen.
@@Rossoneri2 as @Galbix mentions, Ethan was always liberal and his convictions are tied to his upbringing. The conservative to progressive awakening binds you to progressive values with humiliation and remorse. Ain’t no way back.
I left a comment on his video about architecturehighlighting that indeed we should individual architects and some of them might have said they were making "communist" buildings but they could have just been selling cheap buildings and he said that at 31:30, I hope he saw that comment.
Only discovered Jimmy's videos fairly recently, but damn they are SO good. Outstanding videos with plenty of research & really gets to the heart of the topics. Plus he's entertaining which helps!
I like our young Jim, seems like a right proper bloke, who possess the rare combination of street smarts, the gift of gab, and genuine deep reflective insight. Our side needs more like him
Regarding Polish migration to UK and why it was common. At the beginning of 2000s we had political change from social democratic party to right wing free marketeers who introduced the second wave of the neoliberal reforms and privatization. In mid 2000s unemployment rate in Poland peaked at 20% and minimum wage basically didn't exist. So many of my peers who graduated at that time had a choice: either I do a shitty, low-paid job here in Poland (if I'm lucky finding any), or move abroad to UK or Ireland and still do shitty job, but that at least would allow me to make a descent living. We've lost almost 1 million of young people from that generation due to emigration and that's one of the reasons (of course, among other factors) we're now facing rapidly decreasing birth rates. And unfortunately, this neoliberal doctrine "gov shouldn't regulate", "taxes should be low", "private over public" had become the default way of thinking about how to run the country - and I don't see chances that it would change for the better anytime soon. Fuck neoliberalism.
I guess Poland was "lucky" to replace Polish people who left the country with Belarussians and Ukrainians (because of horrible circumstances, but still), which helped it to maintain impressive economic growth.
Im a English person, born there and lived there but when i was 21 i moved to finland and its been the best choice i ever made. Its better quality of life all around and i even get to enjoy the seasons changing is not grey all day everyday
On the finland topic, the reason why it isnt a thought to not home homeless people is straight up because they will die out on the streets. There are crazy wild animals where i live in finland and it can get to cold temperatures such as -30 which will kill you if you are outside in it. You will get hypothermia. When moving here we had to help our truck driver who brought our stuff because otherwise he would have died he was so cold and came from poland where they didnt have as cold weather. So yeah is real and many people here like truck drivers do die to hypothermia. So u kinda have to home homeless people for that reason if you dont want them to die
Bro I live in Florida where we have Pythons and Alligators as well as mosquito-borne illnesses like Malaria and Zika and the government just criminalized homelessness. This isn't about the environment it's about culture.
In his video he did say that Destiny was someone who influenced him to leave the far right and called him a "leftie", which could be true considering his own past political affiliations, but I dunno what to think about that lol
At 17 minutes when talking g about wanting a change and farage/trump being good at the ground game, that's not entirely true, what they are good at is having the media on their side and platforming them, the best example I can give is the green party on question time, very rarely on, but when they are, they are always cheered by the crowd (that's usually supposed to be right wing). But reform, tories, right wing journalists are on weekly, given platforms to spread their hatred
My biggest thoughts/take is that (caveat I am a socialist dare I say even a communist) under an improved economic system such as socialism - there still would need to be tandem work to redress inequalities of access based around characteristics ESPECIALLY race - we've seen it before where social initiatives can be inequitable or inaccessible to non-white communities, disabled communities Yes universal initiatives can work to do this but it needs to be with minority communities in mind or in consult
Sure. But Jimmy is absolutely right in his assessment that people like Owen Jones aren't going to appeal to working class British lads. It's the exact same criticism I have of the likes of Novara Media. I like Aaron Bastani and think he has a great understanding and empathy for why working class Brits are attracted to the right, but the rest of the Novara Media folks are the exact opposite of what we need to attract more working class Brits to the left (especially working class lads). People like them and Owen Jones just come across as far to middle-class, out of touch and London-centric.
@@jordanwood3150 Novara Media they messed up by talking down u hear it from them, both persian guy & athiest desi woman admitting they should have spoken about their stories with caution to not talk down in their stories. It took Gaza to shake their Hubris. Owen Jones was different, u see it from expanding the stories to not just leftie stuff but asking Religous Muslims about what is it he personally saw, from Green Party adopting a ultra conservative guy to hold specific local seat in UK, to interviewing MUslim channels to break the stories he was not aware from 5pillars & The Thinking Muslim. He recognized bigger pictures which got alot muslim like me to open up more to leftie channels more. I lost any respect to leftists news channels by 2016. Huge gaps where i just watched Nopixel binge watched because how demonizing left news outlets were against Religous Muslims. I jut had it with piker, Majority report, tyt, seculartalk, humanist report, Novara Media list goes on it was only when Owne Jones, CJ Werleman, All Gas No Brakes with Andrew Callaghan, Jimey Dore, Due Disidence cover stories i started to have renewed faith in Left news on youtube & twitch. I dont know what to say, maybe it's time Left news channels start reaching out to specific Social Conservative Muslims because we have overlapping interests. We dont agree in culture wars because we see it from our historical record how we been here in the West, while The Left only thinks as far as 70s(during Col War) our existence as voting block. But anyway, maybe if left viewers started to hear out 5PIllars, The Thinking Muslim, Smile2Junnah, Sapience Institute, start asking us. building bridges it helps, i dont know....
I love how Hasan trashes Destiny, while Destiny is actually pretty based on most issues. Like, you agree on most issues but on a very few niche topic you disagree therefore Destiny is the devil. I don't get it.
Because the issue he is mouth-foamingly, aggressively wrong about is the genocide of the Palestinian people, which makes him an opp. Hard to do the "let's just agree to disagree" and "keep it civil" with someone who sides with Israel on this issue.
I ran across Jimmys videos during covid. I liked them. Started watching a bunch. And each video I started noticing things hed say. Until it hit me one video. And read his comments and realized he was definitely not the type of content creator I like to support. So I unsubscribed. Forgot about him. Until I saw Hasan covering that video he did. And was happy to hear he left that pipeline.
I'm glad to hear Jimmy has pivoted to a leftist ideology. I watched a video of his randomly and thought it was pretty good, so I watched another, it must have been an older one because he had major right wing takes, so I stopped watching. It's good seeing that folks can make those positive changes. Good on you Jimmy.
Isn't that struggle going to happen regardless? How many permanent communist states have there been? I think without an authoritarian / dictatorship you likely can't avoid some creep to the right (in democracies, people can vote for right wing governments). And even with a dictatorship, they are often overthrown. So the idea that a social democracy is a failure waiting to happen. I think you can say that about any state.
Well finding this guy vacuus. He has not said one intelligent thing so far. I am a big fan Jimmy but please don't have these dumb guests. You are smarter than this. I chose my gen z people. You Gary Joseph Fisher are smart. Be careful with the US. Think I am jumping out he is soooo boring. I think he thinks he is more interesting than he actually is 😂
Jimmy feels extremely educated with the subjects he talks about , i think it's very good that a person like him who left the right and managed to understand the current issues without falling into another hole
He's a bloke who genuinely cared about the things he believed in, took a critical look and was "material analysis"-pilled while doing his own research on a matter he was going to make a video on. That is to say, he might not actually be extremely educated but he seems intellectually honest enough to go and learn before spouting nonsense just to grift. I don't know if he actually has any formal education, my guess is he doesn't, he just cares... which is all the more impressive.
What’s crazy is how similar his story was to mine politically.
I mean personally, a lot of different specifics, but the bigger picture of his story was basically the same.
And I’ve been like a very stable commie for 2-3 years now.
The thing is I know I could never get brought back.
Once you realise the game, and you drink the propaganda, and realise it’s propaganda… you can’t unsee it.
No amount of grievance politics could shift me back to the right.
yeah i get skeptical about 'why i left the right' folks cause a lot of them turn into social democrats and continue the left-punching, jimmy seems like a good dude though, genuinely open-minded
@ bro I left the right and I’m a Marxist & communist nowadays.
@@bnnyhop this is why reading theory is so important
Leaving the right is one thing , pushing yourself to the left is another
Sometimes people fail the last step
Ive enjoyed Jimmys arc so much- he just used to talk about british culture through the times (hooliganism, chavs and so on), but then his videos went into more depth, talking about Thatcherism and so forth. Love him man, hope he keeps going
I remember subscribing to him when he did the freerunning content, and i LOVE the new videos so much, they're so well researched and well produced
Honestly I think this guy would be really good outreach for reactionary people, because not only was he in their shoes but he seems to intuitively know how to frame these issues in a way that right wingers to be receptive to. Sure he’s not a full on socialist, but the state of the world would be a lot better if your average conservative were instead a social democrat.
it's like former addicts making the best counselors for people in active addiction. you just know what they are going through and how to reach out to them
@@gauner1312great point
It's insane his story is almost exactly how I arrived at the left. He explains it so well too, I really think he could be a great starting point for a lot of conservatives.
How you phrased this, is a big part of the problem. He isnt a full on socialist and thats the reason he knows what arguments are good. Most arguments from more left leaning people always include a "I am superior to you because I actually understand this topic and am more educated" with them. I would refuse to listen to that as well haha
@nottherealChickenJoe as someone who is left wing, maybe even leaning to the "far left", I never say pr act superior, I have a friend who's far right and he's the one I'd say acts superior and thinks it's me who's uneducated on this stuff. On the occasions I say "you need to look into this more" I say it after letting him talk for ages and I frame it as "you've only read what you want to read, you need to read both sides of the argument". The best e ample j cam give is when he said, full chest, that there had been 1.3 million illegal immigrants (his wording) that came into britian, I asked him where he got that number from, he then linked me a newspaper article that made the claim. So I said "right, you might want to to look into this a bit more, because 1.3 million coming in would be more than 5,000 a day, and given that the record wasn't even 1,000 then that number isn't possible" he did eventually drop that number .... but then rather than admit he was wrong said even 1 coming in was too much.
As a Young British male this video is so refreshing 🤝
as an almost middle-aged British male i agree :)
As a female, not really 🤷🏻♀️
@@KatStr4t I'd love to hear why?
@@Novostealswhile I value and appreciate these two guys' discourse in the mainstream online environment, clearly dominated by the alt-right, i'm disappointed that they never cite women and almost never chat to women in their videos. I completely understand a young lad will empathise more with another man, but I will expect more from an adult man, especially a leftist adult man (yes, I do think we are morally superior to the right). So, it's not really a critique, I do like their content, but an invitation to ask themselves some questions.
@KatStr4t and it's not particularly useful to be so conceited in your moral superiority that you think addressing the issue of men escaping indoctrination by the alt right - which is as even you admit pretty specifically a problem of men - is less important than appealing to people who are not the target demographic.
If this was specifically about how the alt right damages and oppresses women I'd agree with you 100%.
But it isn't.
Similarly, it is not an unfair critique of Hassan more broadly. But that broadly fair and accurate critique is, to be entirely frank, completely irrelevant to the content and value of the conversation being had.
It's about a man sharing his experience as he managed to claw his way out of the manosphere.
Which by necessity, in this instance, requires it be men that do the talking.
We need more men who are into sports talking politics from a left perspective. Glad to have him on the left.
First thing that comes to mind is bill burr. like bro is the biggest sports head while simultaneously doggin on the bs right contrarianism.
While I dint fully know what his stance is politically, I think gary linekar going against rhe reanda scheme helped some (while the far right decided he was evil)
Niran from FNG and the guys from LRCP come to my mind. But the political stuff is very shallow (of course, they focus on sport)
Yh I'm a big mma fan and I fear if I tell ppl that,they'll assume I'm right wing since that the type of ideology dominates the sport
kicking my feet in the air rn
I knooooow right. It was crazy to watch happen live last night
Me toooooo
According to Hasan that’s cuz ur a short king or a manlet and ur feet don’t reach the bottom 🤨
LOL Hasan is so awkward sometimes 🤣
In Australia and New Zealand, Labor’s shift to the centre-right has brought about the rise of the Greens. We are all former Labor voters.
Labor's going down the drain and now they're doing all they can to try get support again. The social media ban is complete BS, like they KNOW it's over for them. I do fear that the Greens lack legitimacy for a lot of Aussies. Like I think if you asked anyone above 40 about them, they'd just think they're gay tree huggers who wanna legalise cannabis. Which like kinda true, but I fear that Labor's flop is just gonna lead to more support for the Liberals. It's kinda analogous to the U.S support for the Republicans. Inflation and cost of living is ridiculous right now, so nobody likes Albo. But I have hope! In this lifetime I can see the Greens winning more Aussies over 🤞But before that happens, I fear Aussies will probs experience someone insane like Dutton as PM 😤
Victorian Socialists is on the rise as well!
watch out they don't turn out like our german greens
Although, look at the QLD state election. Centre right Labor was extremely unpopular and Labor Left almost won an election with only 11 months in office. Took votes back from the Green and the Teals. This then triggered Albo to announce the HECS debt forgiveness. I think we might be heading in the right direction in Australia at least
@@mitchelltidball6944 I think the Federal election next year will tell us.
Saw Jimmy's video and was really moved that someone had that kind of self awareness to do what he did. He seems like a genuinely intelligent and curious guy who wants real answers to real questions. World needs more like him.
JimmyTheGiant comes off so relatable but actually has such good insights and political instincts holy shit
I think he just sways whatever way he thinks is cool. Hasan is a fanny and I’m disappointed to see him be such a fan of him
but the guy is shit at maths
I've just watched a bunch of jimmies videos, and they are great and really accessible to a lot of people. Great, you two are connecting.
I used to like Jimmy the Giant back in the day, then saw all his shitty conservative videos so lost interest. It’s heartwarming to see him being open minded and honest about his views.
Omg he has the similar arc as Darkmatter
@@aeoligarlic4024darkmatter who? The guy who makes animations on god?
Dang I wonder if hasan has seen dark matter and his recent crusade against the indoctrination and dogma of maga on the young men
They’ve been r really good and informative videos like the rest of his videos for past 16 years
@@aeoligarlic4024what happened with darkmatter?
That was an enjoyable listen. I saw Jimmy's video before Hasan reacted to it and had him on. It's cool seeing two content creators I enjoy link up like Wade and Lebron
Good convo today. Insta-Sub worthy for Jimmy the Giant 👏👏👏
I appreciate a person who is humble enough to change their opinion. Jimmy is doing important work by explaining how he got into the pipeline and how he got out of it. definitely educational ✌️
As an old school parkour guy I've been watching Jimmy on and off since he more or less created his channel. I absolutely loved his video on escaping the alt right pipeline and was stoked to see you guys engaging like this. would love to see more of you guys colabing
I went through the exact same journey as Jimmy did. Glad the phenomenon of escaping the alt-right pipeline is gaining more attention and more people are going through the same journey, too! :)
Garys economics mention!
God damn he’s made a lot of progress on his ideology extremely quickly, I feel like he’s gonna be living up to his name real soon. Watch this space
Was literally on his stream recently begging for a Hasan collab, stoked on this!!
I love this conversation so much because it’s like, two people on the same page just yapping in a down to earth manner.
Jimmy is a sound lad.
the collab we needed!
Owen Jones goes to my gym, trust me he lifts
He's a normal guy but smarter than most. He is passionate and serious which does not appeal to the cheeky lads but doesn't mean his content is not excellent
Take a shot each time Jimmy says "i dont know if what im saying is true" lmao
How does he speak the truth when he doesn't even know
goat
Fun game but I also respect the hell out of that, I dunno why but I feel like openly admitting that has become rarer and rarer online
@@kakirin there's nothing wrong with admitting your own ignorance but making political statements to a big audience while openly saying you actually have no idea what you're talking about is just embarrassing. Like he says "I follow politics a lot" while then showing he knows little.
to be fair I think folks tend to say this when they have a good idea of what theyre trying to express but can’t cite it verbatim, like you don’t want to be misleading but but are like 80% there
@@mari98_exactly, he doesnt have a source in his back pocket but has read something credible about it
Hope this guy doesn't go the ethan route
I doubt it, Ethan was always a liberal. Hasan has had pretty intense debates with him on the merits of capitalist vs democratized businesses where he showed earlier signs of being REALLY stubborn on certain issues.
This dude, on the other hand, seems like he actually subscribes to left-wing ideology. Not just the social/culture issues.
i don’t think so, this guy actually reads and doesn’t just get his talking points from reddit and discord
Ethan has the moral backbone of a chocolate eclair and memed himself into political discourse he had no business taking part in. This guy actually cares to understand and listen.
This guy seems genuine and sincere. Ethan is a huge hypocrite and has always been more center right. He grifted liberal for views.
@@Rossoneri2 as @Galbix mentions, Ethan was always liberal and his convictions are tied to his upbringing. The conservative to progressive awakening binds you to progressive values with humiliation and remorse. Ain’t no way back.
I left a comment on his video about architecturehighlighting that indeed we should individual architects and some of them might have said they were making "communist" buildings but they could have just been selling cheap buildings and he said that at 31:30, I hope he saw that comment.
Its amazing this guy went down this way to come out much better
Only discovered Jimmy's videos fairly recently, but damn they are SO good. Outstanding videos with plenty of research & really gets to the heart of the topics. Plus he's entertaining which helps!
5'10" short??? Sounds like he has PTSD from being on social media too much
Yeah, "trust fund, 6'5'', blue eyes" and such crap
I like our young Jim, seems like a right proper bloke, who possess the rare combination of street smarts, the gift of gab, and genuine deep reflective insight. Our side needs more like him
lovely chat, wish him more success in this space
Not all psychopaths are billionaires... But... All billionaires are...
So Warren buffet is a psychopath? He’s actually a pretty down to earth normal person. Has always driven a normal car and has a fairly modest house
Regarding Polish migration to UK and why it was common.
At the beginning of 2000s we had political change from social democratic party to right wing free marketeers who introduced the second wave of the neoliberal reforms and privatization. In mid 2000s unemployment rate in Poland peaked at 20% and minimum wage basically didn't exist. So many of my peers who graduated at that time had a choice: either I do a shitty, low-paid job here in Poland (if I'm lucky finding any), or move abroad to UK or Ireland and still do shitty job, but that at least would allow me to make a descent living. We've lost almost 1 million of young people from that generation due to emigration and that's one of the reasons (of course, among other factors) we're now facing rapidly decreasing birth rates.
And unfortunately, this neoliberal doctrine "gov shouldn't regulate", "taxes should be low", "private over public" had become the default way of thinking about how to run the country - and I don't see chances that it would change for the better anytime soon.
Fuck neoliberalism.
I guess Poland was "lucky" to replace Polish people who left the country with Belarussians and Ukrainians (because of horrible circumstances, but still), which helped it to maintain impressive economic growth.
Im a English person, born there and lived there but when i was 21 i moved to finland and its been the best choice i ever made. Its better quality of life all around and i even get to enjoy the seasons changing is not grey all day everyday
I am happy I found Jimmy! Learning about UK politics and culture explains sooo much why my UK coworkers act the way they do.
Collab of the century
PSA:
(I haven’t watched Jimmy the giant except for the video why he left the alt-right if he’s a freak my bad)
He’s Tyler Olivera if he was actually cool
He's alright, so far my only concern is sometimes referencing the zionist squad
He actually murdered my family and my dog and it's really fucked up that you called this the collab of the century
On the finland topic, the reason why it isnt a thought to not home homeless people is straight up because they will die out on the streets. There are crazy wild animals where i live in finland and it can get to cold temperatures such as -30 which will kill you if you are outside in it. You will get hypothermia. When moving here we had to help our truck driver who brought our stuff because otherwise he would have died he was so cold and came from poland where they didnt have as cold weather. So yeah is real and many people here like truck drivers do die to hypothermia. So u kinda have to home homeless people for that reason if you dont want them to die
the UK actively wants them to die. they are social darwinists.
Bro I live in Florida where we have Pythons and Alligators as well as mosquito-borne illnesses like Malaria and Zika and the government just criminalized homelessness. This isn't about the environment it's about culture.
Love to see it! ❤
Yeah I subbed to jimmy after that video. It was great!
3:38 today I learned that my fat ass is taller than Jimmy the Giant. 😂 love a short king. 👑
5'8 is statistically average in the UK - at 5'10 he's not a short king!!!!!
@ yeah but I’m in the UK and I’m 5’10 (barefoot) - and I certainly don’t mean it as an insult: I don’t connect a man’s worth to his stature.
4:38 facts. your insecurities will always show in how you carry yourself through the world. all your favorite rappers are short kings who compensated.
Damn, this Jimmy lad is proper
Super happy Hasan interviewed JimmytheGiant.
Jimmy makes great videos! Awesome to see this
This whole conversation feels very, very familiar. I'm Dutch, we're kinda in the same boat now
Y'all would call me privileged and I don't even have a microphone 😂 you got it so much better than me.
In his video he did say that Destiny was someone who influenced him to leave the far right and called him a "leftie", which could be true considering his own past political affiliations, but I dunno what to think about that lol
i think it's okay to give Destiny credit where credit is due.
What he said about Denmark is 100% what happened in America after the New Deal
Amazing interview
47:00 BRO, They made fucking Rambo movies about helping the taliban.
Good conversation
Wildest crossover lol
"why i left the left" lol 54:25
LESSSGOOOOOOOO 2 OF MY FAVORITE CONTENT CREATORS IN THE SAME VIDEO
This is soooo insightful
What does jimmy usually do for content, I like his vibe
At 17 minutes when talking g about wanting a change and farage/trump being good at the ground game, that's not entirely true, what they are good at is having the media on their side and platforming them, the best example I can give is the green party on question time, very rarely on, but when they are, they are always cheered by the crowd (that's usually supposed to be right wing). But reform, tories, right wing journalists are on weekly, given platforms to spread their hatred
I like Jimmy, but he hates Milton Keynes (the crowning jewel of south east england) for some reason.
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My biggest thoughts/take is that (caveat I am a socialist dare I say even a communist) under an improved economic system such as socialism - there still would need to be tandem work to redress inequalities of access based around characteristics ESPECIALLY race - we've seen it before where social initiatives can be inequitable or inaccessible to non-white communities, disabled communities
Yes universal initiatives can work to do this but it needs to be with minority communities in mind or in consult
17:00 This litteraly happend in Spain. "Left" wing govenment that doesn't face the housing problem, wich is eating at poor people disposable income.
Closing the video w the wrong video name😂
Have to talk about the poor and homeless too
socialism used to be blue collar working class. we need to take back that culture and aesthetic.
owen jones is better than Steven Bonnell by generations
Sure. But Jimmy is absolutely right in his assessment that people like Owen Jones aren't going to appeal to working class British lads. It's the exact same criticism I have of the likes of Novara Media. I like Aaron Bastani and think he has a great understanding and empathy for why working class Brits are attracted to the right, but the rest of the Novara Media folks are the exact opposite of what we need to attract more working class Brits to the left (especially working class lads). People like them and Owen Jones just come across as far to middle-class, out of touch and London-centric.
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Novara Media they messed up by talking down u hear it from them, both persian guy & athiest desi woman admitting they should have spoken about their stories with caution to not talk down in their stories. It took Gaza to shake their Hubris.
Owen Jones was different, u see it from expanding the stories to not just leftie stuff but asking Religous Muslims about what is it he personally saw, from Green Party adopting a ultra conservative guy to hold specific local seat in UK, to interviewing MUslim channels to break the stories he was not aware from 5pillars & The Thinking Muslim.
He recognized bigger pictures which got alot muslim like me to open up more to leftie channels more. I lost any respect to leftists news channels by 2016. Huge gaps where i just watched Nopixel binge watched because how demonizing left news outlets were against Religous Muslims. I jut had it with piker, Majority report, tyt, seculartalk, humanist report, Novara Media list goes on
it was only when Owne Jones, CJ Werleman, All Gas No Brakes with Andrew Callaghan, Jimey Dore, Due Disidence cover stories i started to have renewed faith in Left news on youtube & twitch.
I dont know what to say, maybe it's time Left news channels start reaching out to specific Social Conservative Muslims because we have overlapping interests. We dont agree in culture wars because we see it from our historical record how we been here in the West, while The Left only thinks as far as 70s(during Col War) our existence as voting block. But anyway, maybe if left viewers started to hear out 5PIllars, The Thinking Muslim, Smile2Junnah, Sapience Institute, start asking us.
building bridges it helps, i dont know....
I love how Hasan trashes Destiny, while Destiny is actually pretty based on most issues. Like, you agree on most issues but on a very few niche topic you disagree therefore Destiny is the devil. I don't get it.
Because the issue he is mouth-foamingly, aggressively wrong about is the genocide of the Palestinian people, which makes him an opp. Hard to do the "let's just agree to disagree" and "keep it civil" with someone who sides with Israel on this issue.
I ran across Jimmys videos during covid. I liked them. Started watching a bunch. And each video I started noticing things hed say. Until it hit me one video. And read his comments and realized he was definitely not the type of content creator I like to support. So I unsubscribed. Forgot about him. Until I saw Hasan covering that video he did. And was happy to hear he left that pipeline.
My favourite conversation this year by far.
WTF I watched Jimmy when he was talking about Parkour, he's doing politics stuff now?
I'm glad to hear Jimmy has pivoted to a leftist ideology. I watched a video of his randomly and thought it was pretty good, so I watched another, it must have been an older one because he had major right wing takes, so I stopped watching. It's good seeing that folks can make those positive changes. Good on you Jimmy.
no Hasan, unions in USSR were never meant to fight the big business :)
hassan if you havent listened to it you sould look up the london underground song is bloody brilliant you would love it XD
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Isn't that struggle going to happen regardless? How many permanent communist states have there been? I think without an authoritarian / dictatorship you likely can't avoid some creep to the right (in democracies, people can vote for right wing governments). And even with a dictatorship, they are often overthrown. So the idea that a social democracy is a failure waiting to happen. I think you can say that about any state.
3mins in and Hasan rly needs to stop interrupting jimmy with literal nonsense PLEASE BROTHER
Rest of it: great convo
Not even twenty seconds in and Hasan is already foaming at the mouth of mentioning Destiny. Unreal how obsessed he is.
They both love to hate each other it’s actually quite funny
Fortress Europe please
Is he a socialist ?
He'll get there
He is an European leftist. He would probably be considered to the left of most American leftists.
maybe one day 🥲
Tbh I don't even care if he is. It is so rare these days for a person to deal with contradiction and to introspect. I take it. It's growth.
i think he is more of a social democrat. He is still relatively new tho
this guy thinks hes middle class and his house is like a shoebox
if he lives in a city in england, then he def is middle class. a shoebox in london goes for about £2 million a month.
I love how Hasans chat just starts shitting on him for making normal arguments. Hasan and his community are delusional.
Hasan keeps trying to check him. Be charitable hasan
(be normal)
Can’t make the same mistake again as with Ethan, Asmongold, Destiny and Aiden
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Well finding this guy vacuus. He has not said one intelligent thing so far. I am a big fan Jimmy but please don't have these dumb guests. You are smarter than this. I chose my gen z people. You Gary Joseph Fisher are smart. Be careful with the US. Think I am jumping out he is soooo boring. I think he thinks he is more interesting than he actually is 😂