What On Earth Happened Here?! Washington Park, East St. Louis 4K.
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 5 พ.ค. 2020
- Washington Park and East St. Louis are in the Metro East region, which is the Illinois side of the St. Louis Metro area in Southern Illinois. Unfortunately, these two communities have been facing economic decline and struggle for decades.
Pontoon Beach: 0:40 - 4:11
Fairmount City: 4:11 - 6:00
Washington Park: 6:00 - 800
East St. Louis: 8:00 - 13:36
Downtown East St. Louis: 13:36 - 17:05
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What I heard about east St. Louis is that the crime isn’t bad it just sad but it used to be dangerous now it’s just abandoned and a lot of poor people but my grand parents still live here in Washington park they been living there since 1960 but there’s still a lot of nice people over there where my grandparents are but the crime is getting lower just very ghetto and hood maybe more like north side is the worst part
It reminds me of fort Campbell back in 85 and 86.
I was once a paramedic in East St. Louis and Washington Park. It was the worst time of my life. That includes 8 deployments to Iraq and Afghanistan. I recall a family from Utah who's family van broke down in Washington Park on a cross country trip. The family was waiting for AAA to show up. 1) they had been stranded for four hours waiting (because at the time, AAA took their time getting to that area) and 2) THEY HAD BEEN ROBBED TWICE during that time. The second time, the dad was assaulted, which was why I was called. Terrible times. Although, there are some amazing and good people who live there, holding out hope that it'll get better, it just makes it all the more sad.
That’s awful. Not a town I would want to be stranded in for sure. East saint Louis and Washington park have gone so down hill. It’s pretty sad. Now the strip clubs have moved in and the people are moving out. Drug trafficking is huge. I drove through the town earlier today to go to the junkyard. I was driving down the main drag when I gentleman maybe 20 years old, on a bicycle turned off of a road. Instead of continuing on the sidewalk, he took the turn wide and decided to ride in the middle of the lane. He pulled out in front of me and I swerved to avoid hitting him. Not sure what was going through his mind or if he wanted me to stop for God knows what reason but he spit on my truck. I had no reaction but to get out of there lol. It’s unfortunate. I was just on my merry way lol. The train horn I’m currently installing on my truck wouldve come in handy for sure lol. And thank you for your service!
You are a brave man! You have earned a right to a lifetime of peace and safety.
Of the three places (East St. Louis, Iraq, & Afghanistan), which one was the most dangerous?
@@jag92949 Good question. I certainly didn't have people strapping bombs to themselves trying to kill me in East St. Louis.
@@johnsmith3085 In the USA, murderers rarely use bombs. They prefer firearms & knives. In Europe, firearm deaths are near zero but bombings are more common.
East Saint louis was originally known as Illinois Town or Illinoistown, it was where the train ended their journey west and unloaded. The materials was loaded onto boats and over to the Missouri. Maternal Family settled this area around 1890, they were Irish/German/French.
Nick Johnson made a music video using video capture of East St. Louis during dead winter on how much he hated Illinois.
Born in Belleville in the late 70's. Grew up in Wahington Park, attended Manners Elementary I remember Principal Reed and Mr. Stokes. Donuts from Rosemont Bakery. My childhood home on 64th burned down years after we moved. Moved across the viaduct to Fairmont City around 9 or 10 and later to Granite City directly across the street from the steel mill, about 2 blocks from the tracks that seperated Granite and Madison... it was a tough up-bringing.
Gotta love the change in music when he goes to the bad area. 😂
😂
THANK YOU… pisssssses me off
@@maranitalogan6148 🤣😂😂😂😂
I love this gangsta track too, could you name the song/artist with us sometime?
It’s amazing that Chris Harden drove through the better parts of East St. Louis.
My parents would be close to 100 years old if still alive. They told me how beautiful east st. Louis was back then when they were kids.
It was beautiful when I was a kid. I was born there in 1968. We left in 1975
Born and raised in East St. Louis 🧡💙🧡💙
Great video. I drive down to the abandoned areas every now and then to explore. Have grown an obsession for the east remains of the Macarthur Bridge.
The area is interesting because of "how far back the communities date back". Cahokia Mounds is all that is left of the Mississippian culture that ruled this region from about 1000 AD to 1350 AD. The society may have failed due to overuse of natural resources, or internal or external tribal warfare, etc. There were no records that survived, written or otherwise, other than perhaps scant oral tradition.
I grew up in Fairmont City on Thomas Ave. Went to Washington Park to get ny comics at Gruber's Drug store. Fishing at Horseshoe Lake
Buddie, I work down there these past 2 Years and just be prepared after dark . That street in Washington park by Churches Chicken that You you stop at then turn down going towards East St Louis.
A Officer lost his life serving a Warrant one morning when I was heading to work . See his car down the street before I turn where I was working . Yes its a Hood
Wish what you were saying isn't true, but it is. Spent so much time in the Park in the 70's but don't recognize it now. Never had a problem, but I knew it was always there just waiting.
He lost his life because of a no knock warrant. We shoot first then ask questions later. The system failed their officer. You can’t come to a neighborhood and try to kick someone door in. Had he announced his presence the situation would’ve been different. Our police aren’t that bad for someone to be just shooting them. Only because the guy was a felon was the reason he was charged. I just wanted to correct your information for you. Just like these foreigners that come into the city doing these videos are not from here they tell their own stories about a city they only hear about. If that’s the case these cities are everywhere in different states so don’t be so quick to judge what you don’t know
Great video. Through out my years This was and still a good city and People. Saw alot of places that brought good memories back.
In 2009 I visited Springfield for President Lincoln’s 200th birthday and then went to Cahokia which was really amazing. I was shocked that it was so close to “metro” East Saint Louis. HN Cabin was a railroad hot spot in Washington Park but in a bad area (as every metropolitan railroad hot spot seemed to be, like Delray Tower). Great video as always 👍
East st.Louis IL was once a beautiful city, looking at it now many call it the ghetto or The Projects of Illinois. It used to have several factories and beautiful homes. Also great job on the music transitions.
You should come down to Sparta Illinois. The original In the heat of the night was filmed here. We also had the largest printing plant in the country. It has closed and Sparta has declined in population. Mostly jobs in the coal industry now. Randolph County is full of history.
My family lived on N. 46th St. In East St Louis. My dad and his brother built our house. I had other relatives that lived down the street and a couple blocks over my grandmother had a house. My dad moved our family down to Georgia in 1969 when crime started breaking out really bad. I still have relatives that live in Fairmont and Collinsville
I lived on 47th between Lincoln and Audubon. It was getting bad when we left in 1989 after a neighbor watched people break into.our house and did nothing. Graduated from Assumption in 88.
ESCAPE FROM NEW YORK was filmed in East St. Louis back in 1981.
IT WAS NOT- IT WAS ST LOUIS MO
It was parts of trespass the movie with ice t and ice cube that was filmed in east Saint louis close to the river front
Cool, you found some traffic lights. I didn’t see any when I was there.
My uncle ran a business selling hot tamales in the sixties and part of seventies, remember to this day, every weekend, you could hear on the street corners ' Hot Tamales ", they were great.
I'm from E. St. Louis. Graduated high school. 🧡💙 My family still lives there. I'm over there at least once a month.
ETA: You actually passed my childhood streer driving down State St. 😊
Cant wait till the next Vid
I was stranded and on foot about 10 miles east of E St Louis, I could see the Arch from where i started walking. I got to conv store on edge of town, and I was warned not to walk thru town, and that was about 79. i got a ride to bus term in St L and had to wait for like 8 hrs well into the night there to get on bus. I was stalked for hours and they followed me in the restroom, and if I went outside I was followed. I finally just told the guy,"here, just take the shit", a back pack and a blanket.
My city 💙
the prison off of HWY 161 used to be Assumption High school
Yes sir
I went there '70-'74,worked at Tri-City grocery in Loisel Village in the mid 70's
Went there in 1971
Graduated in 1988. It closed in 89
East saint Louis and Washington park have gone so down hill. It’s pretty sad. They were once a booming area. Now the strip clubs have moved in and the people are moving out. Drug trafficking is huge. I drove through Washington park earlier today to go to the junkyard. I was driving down the main drag when I gentleman maybe 20 years old, on a bicycle turned off of a road. Instead of continuing on the sidewalk, he took the turn wide and decided to ride in the middle of the lane. He pulled out in front of me and I swerved to avoid hitting him. Not sure what was going through his mind or if he wanted me to stop for God knows what reason but he spit on my truck. I had no reaction but to get out of there lol. It’s unfortunate. I was just on my merry way lol. The train horn I’m currently installing on my truck wouldve come in handy for sure lol
LOL....@9:50, pack some heat man!
My mom was packing heat, she would not hesitate either.
I love your videos, and You have no fear driving down state street I’ve lost a couple of friends on that street. Your history and the way you put the street names and city names is enticing. It’s true about the downfall of ESTL if you walk down the streets where the tall abandoned skyscrapers are you can see cables hanging and it’s sad cause restaurants still operate in that area. I saw a dude get hit by his babymomma in a car right there infront of the metrolink 5th and Missouri Ave.
Luv u East Boogie..OW 18thST Centreville
I had forgotten how flat it is up that way! Still a pretty landscape though.
Drove this route for many yrs.
i'm from north st louis only time we went to east saint louis was on sunday to buy beer lol
North St. Louis ??? I’m sure you didn’t have a problem riding through east Saint louis because I wouldn’t dare ride through north St. Louis even if the police was riding behind me
Born and raised in the boogie. Love the hometown live in San Antonio Tx.
Raise there too.and will not forget e st l
🫡 salute
These videos are strangely addictive
Used to live here. I've lived in all black towns and all white towns. Its all about how you act.
If your car breaks down, and you act like you are terrified and about to get robbed, always looking over your shoulder. People pick up on that.
Next time, act like you are in the safest neighborhood in the country. Like you've lived there your entire life. Someone acts aggressive in conversation? Be passive aggressive back. Taught my white friends there who were scared this and they never got messed with again.
Kinda random, but reminds me of an avatar quote i heard when I was younger.
"Toruks the baddest cat in the sky, nothing attacks him, so why would he look up?"
Think about it, if I'm walking down the worst street in the country, with over the ear headphones, not a care in the world. People think, either A.) You have protection. Or B.) You're from there.
That is so very true! I used to work at St. Marys hospital there in the late 70's. While riding my motorcycle home after working a 3-11 shift, it broke down and was going nowhere. This was a little after midnight and in a pretty rough looking part of town. Out of nowhere 2 dudes came up to me asking if I needed help. And they were sincere! I honestly believe that by keeping my cool and not acting intimidated made the difference in avoiding what could have possibly been an unpleasant situation.
I used to pretend I was aggravated from work and they would stay away from me lol
I was born in Washington Park in 1968. It was a beautiful town back then.
Grew up in Washington park Illinoi. 4 block
East st louis didn’t look bad at all . Check previous video to see the channel driving in alleys and backroad to show east st louis in bad light .
Take a midnight stroll there and see
@@dr.victorfrankenschtein7053 I live there 🤣🤣
Chris Harden drove through the affluent parts of East St. Louis where there’s working traffic lights, open liquor stores, and a McDonalds. The rest of the city is hollowed buildings & overgrown fields.
There are worse cities. I honestly think all the west coast cities are hell. All the tint cities are not here
@@hoopty. When I went to Seattle back in 2012, I thought it was the most beautiful city in the USA. I know things have gotten worse there since. Pertaining to East St. Louis, it’s not really a true city since it’s so abandoned. But, Baltimore is hands-down the worst large American city I’ve ever been to, and it was 2012 (when it was better).
It's scary drivin with you !
I used to live in east St. Louis and I still know family that is still living down there. There’s good parts and there’s bad parts just don’t come there looking rich
Good advice.
I agree 👍but idk why they say it has the highest crime rate in America 🤷🏾♀️how can that b 🤔cause it was the same about LBC,Compton and Detroit so please give🙄 me a break,the city has its ups & downs just every other part of America
Bought our first boat in Pontoon Beach.
the Urban plight happened under Mayor Fields
" ROBBED EAST ST LOUIS; BLIND. MADE SURE THERE WAS NO INDUSTRY; BUSINESS IR MONEY. BUT THAT IS NOT PUBLICIZED"!! I WAS A TEENAGER; BUT I REMEMBER. TALK ABOUT CROOKED POLITICS"!! GANGSTERS & CORRUPTION WAS THE ORDER OF THE DAY"!! THE DEMISE WAS STRATEGIC"!!
You found sources of food here of Church’s Fried Chicken & McDonalds. When I was here, it just saw abandoned buildings and overgrown fields.
I'm just a white country boy from Effingham, Illinois, but I've lived in E Boogie 3 x in my life. I've walked the streets after the sun went down, and I've lived to tell the tale. St. Clair and Madison counties are Not for the faint of heart my friends.....
Same here friend. I am not afraid of no ghosts.
Been years since I was there. Fairmont used to be mostly Mexican. They were hard working. Didn't know Washington Park was too.
Who did the music for this!?
I was driving through St. Louis and had to pee so bad, I finally had to get off the exit. It was East St. Louis. I pulled into a small car lot and 3 guys tried to block me in. the other ones down the street a little way looked like they were doing a drug deal. I didn't get to pee. It was scary !
U sure you just had to pee 😂😂ijs
I have been through there and it is not a place you want to live. The best part of the videos is when you tell the truth. You are looking at stats and at the neighborhood. People who are reacting negatively to your video are part of the problem and not the solution. I have seen several of your videos and you are right in all of them. The numbers don't lie and the environment doesn't lie. I would like to say that ESL has a bright future, but so far it seems not to have a bright future. It will take a major investor to buy up property, but it will be expensive to clean up the brownfields and there are plenty of them. Keep up the good videos and don't be afraid to keep telling the truth.
I remember St. Martin of Tours Church and the Parochial School in Washington Park.
I graduated St. Martin's in 1984 and went to Assumption and graduated in 1988
@@robertboone7860 Good for you!! did you know Fr. McPherson?
@@robertboone7860 is St. Martin still there?
That's one thing that couldn't stand about E.St Louis Black people didn't own ish and the White people on a couple of occasions treated people the same way at least that's how it seemed to me I had fun tho the people were dangerous but hospitable FR I love Mississippi ppl
Fairmont City (no u in Fairmont) has the highest Hispanic population in Illinois outside the Chicago area. I don't know this for sure but I think Jack Dorsey of Twitter lived there at some point
Yeah my dad work at Fairmount Race Track, Hispanics been coming there for years working at track got so Mexican restaurants back there too now.
I was raised in Washington Park.
Pardon my criticism:
0:00 Dead time spent following the white pickup truck on a featureless road.
Other than that, I'm still a great fan of your videos😊
Thanks for the vid. U drove it so I don't have 2.
Thug City now, you were brave going in there, the music change is hilarious and so appropriate
I am going to Bloomington,Indiana then ST Louis at the end of October for 7-10 days from Raleigh NC.Hope my Honda Accord don't break down.
Hopefully not. Good luck
@@ChrisHarden Thank you,enjoyed your video.
The Interstate Highway System will keep you away from East St. Louis.
I didn’t know you made another East St. Louis video. This “city” has the meanest streets of America.
I DON'T Think So!!🤔
@@lishawilliams8205 This city has a very high murder rate.
My old hometown, dont miss the place.
The music track needs a switch up bro
Nah
Would upbeat reggae music be more appropriate? I actually think East St. Louis needed more sinister sounding music than “Mean Streets.” Maybe someone can revamp it with gothic organs.
Hip hop
U forgot edwardsville actually it’s the best
That music, though. Dear lord.
Would of liked to see Stop and Go liquor. Got family a couple blocks away. Remember being 10 years old or so driving through to get people cigs, alcohol and me a candy bar.
Pontoon Beach has a good Mayor and a police department that is proactive and don't play. That's what keeps it decent while the areas around it cave in.
😭😭😂 who u get the lies frommmm
Pontoon & granite city is bad tooo..stop it ..racism, fights all bs robberies and all. I lived there too lhh
me and chuck norris drove here last night--we took a nap for a few hours and youre right thugs were all around us but chuck killed them all--east st louis is now a safe city again!!!
Any particular reason you only show main roads and nothing off the beaten path?
Lot of people that lived off the main roads would like to see there old neighborhoods 👍
East St. Louis has a population of 18,469 (2020), probably lower now.
The East Side is bad unless your Swansea Bellville and Collinsville
To answer your question What happened here?, Springfield and Chicago politics.
Don't go to the gumpers inless you got a whole stick with 100 rounds
11:32 damn that dude is brave driving a Mercedes Benz through there lol
And he stopped at all stop signs in washington Park, 🏎💨
Brave???? Hell people stay in east Saint louis with Mercedes and other nice cars. Now ride through St. Louis and get back on here and let us know how it went. Make sure when you bullet proof your car and lock your doors especially on the highway 💅🏽
Light a match on everything west of 255 and south of 270.
I was born in E. St. Louis in 1957. My family owned the only drug store in the city.
My wife was born there also in 1957 at st Mary's hospital. She grew up in Collinsville. Her mom took her school shopping in e st Louis when they had dept stores there.
how many times has it been robbed?
You mean the only drug store with legal drugs.
I was born there in 1951. Was acknowledged as an All American City. Went to high school at Assumption high school which has since been turned into a prison.
Moved to Fairview Heights in 1957. Still occasionally drive through, in daylight hours.
Sad to see such blight.
they have lots of drug stores now--one on every corner lol
Born and raised in Washington Park in 60s and entire 70s. Moved late 1980. Town was a treasure. The only people to blame for it's downfall are it's current residents who for years destroyed everything they had as well as what others had. Shame on them for their horrible culture which has little to no respect.
So true.
So racist.
@@sageemmaSo braindead
You should’ve went through the good areas in East St. Louis.
Fr
That was the best area. Church’s Fried Chicken and working traffic lights is the best it can get there.
@@jag92949lies!!! Stop clout chasing.
Got my street cred on twenty third street and Bunkum road.
I LIVED THERE FOR 45 YRS
we are facing one with the new mayor in Belleville Illinois she is another one like Fields
I wonder if Sheena's is still there? One of the best burgers ever.
Shebas, no we have tasty burger
@@keisharice2392 yes, typo. Sheba's. Great burger. And St. Paul sandwiches from the Chinese joint. Damn I'm old!
I'm glad I live in MILWAUKEE!!
I live in Belleville Illinois my step bro my dad's sons both lived down there you do not need to tell me I know
A lot of good strip clubs in Washington Park.
Not sure how good they are but sadly they're all that remains of my dear Washington Park, my home away from home in the 1970's. Last time there I thought I was in a war zone, didn't even recognize the place. Same with Fairmont City.
Yup and when you go to Brooklyn it’s one on every corner
lmao... why the gang rap music when you roll into washington park lmaoooooooo
East St. Louis = Pot In The Box. Back in the old days, anyway.
26,000 people and NO TRAFFIC!!!!
All the blacks lost their licenses
Update: The 2020 census showed 18,000 people. Also, why would you be in your car at 7 in the morning if government assistance is your career job?
@@jag92949look at the trash talking about someone else.
@@keisharice2392 I actually work full time for a living. In Colorado, I was making a low enough amount of money to qualify for food stamps. Instead, I bought food with my own money. I live in Greeley, and have seen so many people abuse the social programs. Unlike these deadbeats, I actually have to pay thousands in federal income tax every year making less than 40K.
@@jag92949 I came back to this comment because I shouldn’t have went that low with you. I have no problem with people if other ethnicities. I try to respect everyone as a person but I hate to see people down another race as they’re better than them. I grew up in Washington Park when it was predominantly white and even though race was a factor in some areas back then I’ve seen the struggle with in white homes also.
East Side 💯
Washington Park doesn't have a police department, they've got to rely on East St Louis
Oh boy.
It just burned down a couple of weeks ago.
Detroit has Michigan State Police patrol its really bad neighborhoods. Why can’t sleazy billionaire in Springfield get Illinois State Troopers in the East St. Louis area?
They had one because I was there several times for fights as a kid.
someone commented to stop and talk to the people, lmao, you better come heavy or don't come at all lol
I live in the hood of east St Louis Illinois actually it's not that bad here
not a negative comment on video content, but just on one specific part of driving.. Do you ever *stop* at stop signs? So far i've watched several videos and have never seen anything more than a rolling stop. th-cam.com/video/NuxBYfI2rhs/w-d-xo.html -- seems most people don't even realize that they are doing it.
Part of what you're talking about is that the videos are slightly sped up, so it looks like I'm going faster than I actually am.
At 8:42 for example. I might not come to a complete stop, but I yield to like 1 mph, but since the video is sped up to 150%, it looks like I'm going faster.
@@ChrisHarden I realize that... thats why it looks worse than what it is, but does highlight that there is rarely a full stop (would probably just look like a jitter). not hating, just saying probably not something you ever noticed about it that others might.
@@ChrisHarden It's East St Louis....DON'T STOP AT STOP SIGNS!!!!!!
@@blazinv85why not? Let him speed through your city and hit or kill one of your kids. Y’all say stupid shit just to fit the scenario. So are you telling me where you’re from is glitter and glamour. Hell most states I’ve traveled to look like slums and only a few blocks may look decent
A sad place where people have been manipulated to believe they are owed something and they sit around, do nothing and that something never comes. East St. Louis is much like Venezuela, a product of failed Socialism. You reap what you sow! Very little reaping occurs in East St. Louis.
Yep, many Democrat-run cities have become Caracas, Venezuela. If you go to some Democrat-run hoods in South Florida (such as Lake Worth), it looks identical to Caracas.
I've noticed he did not pass by any strip clubs the Metro East is known for their strip clubs
THERE AE NONE HERE
He did, in WashingtonPark! You just wouldn't know the were unless you're from this area.
@@dripneicee 8 Mile Road lets you know you’re driving by a strip club. 8 Mile is elegant and fancy comparing to the roads in this video. East St. Louis doesn’t even have the courtesy to treat their locals with liquor stores, marijuana dispensaries, and dollar stores. Detroit has those amenities. Nowadays, Detroiters can even buy real produce and meat from Meijer.
I live here how he gonna talk about my city and it’s challie park dude
My cousin shot his girlfriend and himself on that very highway! Both died...
I remember staying in Washington Park I went to Wilson and then Lansdowne jr.i remember when me and my friends was 13 we went to the strip club Dolly's lol
Racism and White Flight happened dude, Really!
So you are claiming that things can’t be nice unless white people live there?
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I accept your challenge to leave my car running in ESL and sleep overnight. I will have my video evidence uploaded to TH-cam...
posthumously.
6:40 Who in the right mind would pay $40K to live here? Illinois should pay you $40K to live in their neglected city.
Ouch. There is truth in what you are saying. Not just neglected but abused. This state has had numerous corrupt governors. Still, I have lived in Illinois all my life and it is, for the most part, a great state. Hence, while I appreciate your honest opinion, I am offended by your choice of words and the negative implications behind them.
@@asafaust8869 I’m from Michigan, and many of its cities are political disaster zones. Flint is becoming the USA’s next East St. Louis. Illinois is not the only state that’s decaying. Chicago is actually faring better than Portland (Oregon), San Francisco, & NYC right now. I guess the mayor of Chicago is not successfully bringing in homeless drug addicts like those cities due to the hostile winter conditions. San Francisco pays you $625 a month to smoke crack and living in street tents. I think many politicians, mainly Democrats in particular, seize power to a city or a state & destroy it. They tax residents into oblivion and keep the money for themselves. They’re sympathetic to criminals & gangs. They love pinning Americans against each other leading to riots. If a Biden-style government were to rule us for the next 100 years, the whole country will become like East St. Louis.
The average house in Raleigh NC is now $420,000 pricing people out.We are the opposite to you when it comes to housing but we have a lot more jobs.
@@gregorycyr9272 This is a warning that North Carolina can become the next west coast. Inflated home prices brings more homelessness. Then, left-wing local governments come into power. They do ineffective social programs by making the city more expensive through taxes. These programs give people the incentive of not making money legally. Income from selling drugs, dog fighting, & prostitution is not reported to the IRS thus they can keep receiving benefits from the government. Crime goes up. The people with money & companies leave the city. As a result, the city is broke with high levels of crime & poverty.
Wtf do you stay. Don’t forget what goes up must come down. Humble your lil miserable self down mate. East Saint louis may be a poor city but don’t get that confused with the people. Everyone isn’t struggling we’re living very comfortable
"What On Earth Happened Here" you ask? Take a look at the faces on the streets and there's the answer to your question.
Learn the total history of East St. Louis....then comment about the faces.
He starts the answer to your question at 12:40, and gets to the heart of the matter at 12:50.
Stop being a racist a-hole.
what happened is good decent folk moved away and were replaced by two legged garbage..........thats what happens in all these once great neighborhoods and towns........
You can go to Springfield and find out. These politicians really don’t care about their places and only do public service for self enrichment. It’s like owning a home and letting your roof cave in or never mowing your lawn, but bragging that you own property.
Why don't you stop and talk to the people instead of just driving thru?
You dont want to do that. A rolling stone gathers no moss, that moss will engulf you.
LOL!@@MS-st1zb
You have a point. :)