Can These Cities Eventually Turn Things Around? Granite City, Madison Illinois 4K.
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 23 ก.ค. 2020
- Both Granite City and Madison are places that have seen better days.
Granite City: 0:55 - 8:25
Madison: 8:25 - 10:40
Venice: 10:40 - 13:00
Madison: 13:00 - 14:36
Granite City: 14:36 - 30:30
Downtown Granite City: 14:52
Wilson Park: 24:48
Granite City High School: 26:00
Madison: 30:30 - 32:23
Venice: 32:23 - 34:50
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damn....I thought this was a video from the future
i grew up in granite city. It was a crap little town but i still miss it. life was very simple there.
So did I man I searched this up and I found this I remember the highway at 1:03 like the back of my head
Same
I still live in Granite city I love it here sure we have alot of karens and its a crappy town but that crime rate is a little worng in my hole life here I have never experienced any crime except a few fights here or their.
shits dangerous now i still live here its good in some areas but down around the mill and that general area is shady
@@rubenmurphyvlogs5425 the crime rate in general isn't actually very high if you think about it. The chance of being a victim of stranger crime is actually not very high except in the long term (eventually) even in most so called high crime communities providing some basic common sense is employed. The most danger people face is from those they know so just avoiding the wrong crowd goes a very long way.
Who remembers the Brimberry mansion scandal? I was 13 at the time and even I knew something wasn't right about that house going up in Granite City.
Thanks. I was feeling home sick. This really helped
A lot of great sport teams in the metro East. Collinsville had a legendary basketball program in the late 50’s or so til 1978. East St Louis is one of most legendary programs in all illinois from girls/boys track, football & basketball. Football terrorizes the state in beginning in the early 70’s then at its peak from 83-91. It has a resurgence again beginning around 2004. Madison has won a state championship in 86 I think. Venice was powerful also around that time
The portion you called Venice is actually west Madison/Newport. I like what you're doing but it seemed like you dissed GC more than anything. There is a lot of nice areas that you didn't hit in the city.
To get to West Madison/Newport from Madison proper, you have to go through an area of a few blocks that is within the Venice city limits, which was where he was at. The corporate limits of Madison and Venice were subject to more than a little gerrymandering. It's weird, that area goes to Madison schools and has Madison mailing address, but it's still legally Venice.
i was born in wood river and raised in Granite City. lived in #9 Kirkpatrick homes growing up. and a smattering of just about every street in the poor districts. from the 2500 block of Adams all the way to east 25th street. i also lived in clover leaf in Madison. These places hold a place in my heart they cant be replaced. i loved going to Woolworth's! man! i could write books on this place. THANK YOU FOR THE VID! you have my like and subscribe.
Good ole KP I remember running around in there I lived on east 24th street as a kid on the same block as the corner store
I grew up in Cloverleaf on Collinsville Avenue near the railroad and old grain elevator. My family has a long history in Madison and Granite City dating back to the mid 1800's. My grandfather was Mayor of Granite City (before that, alderman) and was responsible for having Kirkpatrick Homes built. We used to do a lot of fishing at the pay ponds owned by Robert "Bob" Becker at Horseshoe Lake. We always fished there for free as he was a good family friend as well as the best man at my parents' wedding back in 1962.
I was on 28th and Ralph just down from the dairy bar
Still live on East 24th. The corner store is right down the street. Funny, I used to live on 2500 Adams like the commenter.
Yes, Woolworths did a terrific ham sandwich on toast.
The abandoned school is the Ida B Wells elementary. I used to write the insurance on the Hopkins Park schools in the 1990s when I lived in Iroquois Co. Sad that it has closed! I never thought that someone would take the time to do a video on Pembroke Twp. Did you know that Rod Blogojevich, when Illinois governor, actually was in the process of building a prison in Pembroke Twp, the Illinois legislature decided they couldnt afford it and pulled the plug on it. I'm sure there are still construction materials at the building site to this day.
I grew up in Madison w family in Granite City. I really enjoy your videos!
It was a little shocking to see the steel factory smog so close to a town......in Australia we tend not to locate these kinds of industries this close to our population centres.
You think thats bad? The steel dust that is in everything is even worse
I'm glad somebody else sees how wrong this is. Right next to a densely populated area, the sky is filled with coal smoke. It's an injustice
It was the other way around. The steel mill was originally built to support another plant that manufactured enameled pots and pans called granite ware. Which is where the city gets its name. The town was founded by the owners of the granite ware plant and built to support the manufacturing. When the steel mill was opened in 1895 there were only about 3000 residents. At its peak this one mill had over 6000 employees. There were several others in the area along with other heavy industry. Most of what people claim as smog or pollution is water vapor from cooling towers and other steam outlets. Gases from the blast furnaces are burned off. Unless there is an issue with a process that can cause a release. The bulk of any emissions comes from removing the coke from the coke ovens. It is much cleaner than in the past although still a dirty process.
The coke plant was the worst
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You did a terrible job of making Granite and Madison look like " Terrible places to live" ...good people out number the bad 10 to 1..." This part smells bad"...you literally drove through the middle of a Steel Mill..past by a dozen of amazing neighborhoods.
I’m thinking of moving to granite city. I don’t love a ton of crime but am attracted because of retirement and the realestate market. I’ve drove through the area and it honestly seemed very safe compared to what people said
@@cullenellis7422 you cannot tell the safety of an area by what it "seems" like and superficial appearance can sometimes be very misleading. It is relitively high in crime actually. But it is all relitive. In truth provided basic procautions are taken and you aren't close to the wrong people, the chance of being victimized even in most "high crime" communities is actually preety low.
The whole city smells like pollution. It just depends on the wind direction
@@anonanon1879it’s not as bad as East Chicago ind
I live on 28th St. and I could still smell it from there. I live there for 20 years and graduated in 99 from there. When I was in high school, I was walking home and got jumped by a bunch of thugs. There was a lot of mischief and vandalism couple shootings but I now live in Florida. Granite city is fine if you like everything smelly, and no good nature to explore
The Nestea factory was in Granite City. Talk about an odor!
I see you get around young man!
Hey Chris, thank you for your videos. I have a question, Do you have some information about Godfrey Illinois?
SIUE is my alma marta and after university i lived in granite city then i moved over to alton. edwardsville was expensive. i still love the area.
I live right next to granite city in edwardsville. But I can’t remember the last time I went there for something.
Was born in Granite City, for some reason. Don't remember ever living there. Last time I was in Granite City was decades ago. Even with the greenery of spring, Granite City, Venice and Madison look very grim and sad. They wouldn't look good even on a bright, sunny day. Can only imagine how depressing things must look in the winter. Sad!
OK I lived here for over 20 years, my first job is in Madison at the dairy queen when I was 17. I can attest it smells like shit for the most part. Everyone in town knew it stunk. I graduated from Granite city high school in 1999. Nothing he saying is not true. I got assaulted when I was a teenager. On my way home from school. I had several attempted car robberies, and my parents still live there. I would probably move back there because it’s my hometown and I lived in Chicago and I currently live in Florida but there’s nothing untrue about his statements.
Damn good drag racing in Madison!
Yeah that’s not a good thing, lol.
My band plays at Patrick's bar all the time. One of the few bars in the area that have live bands.
My cousin Doug Patrick owned that until recently.
@@timpatrick2109 He still does, doesn't he ?
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I’m pretty sure he sold it out to his ex wife, who was half owner anyway. She just kept the name. This was over a year ago and Doug has moved on.
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Maybe she wasn’t half owner but she was his partner in some respects.
Granite will never turn around, it's following the same path Cahokia was on 40 years ago. It's only going to get worse as time goes on and white flight happens.
Amateur work. But thank you for taking me through an area I lived in for six years has a child. In the 1970’s this was a phenomenal area, I sold TV Guides house to house at the age of nine for spending money, and later the newspaper in granite city.
1. The entire Midwest economy is depressed, not just these towns. The Governor of Illinois only caters to Chicago. The population in Illinois use to be about 14 Million, but the Governors tax policy has driven off about 1.5 Million. Chicago and its Suburbs had 12.5 Million population. Leaving the rest of the state with 1.5 Million. Peoria, Champaign, and Springfield had about a third to half of that 1.5 million population, leaving the rest for the state. You could add that Woolworth, Radio Shack, K-Mart, Sears and several other fallen store chains had their headquarters in Chicago.
2. There has always been high poverty in both St Louis and East St Louis. St Louis’s peak population was about 900,000, with 12% of that being African American, This was when the population of America was150 Million. Today St Louis is under 300,000, with 50% being African American. The population of America is over 300 Million. If St Louis had kept pace with America’s growth, it would have 1.8 Million People. Instead, St Louis lost 1.5 Million White families and 150,000 African American families.
You drove right though West Granite, During Before the Great Depression, Granite City had 19,000 people. Then Hungarian Immigrant’s began showing up. The town took on 10,000 a year, for two years straight. West Granit was called the Hungarian Hallow. When the Great Depression hit it became the Hungry Hallow. During the great depression parents had to make their kids tuff. That tradition still carries on today with fighting.
You also Drove right by the Lead plant. In the 1980’s the EPA called it a disaster. Ask anyone in Madison and in granite city up to 21st street and they remember the EPA coming in and digging up four inches of lead infested dirt and putting fresh dirt down.
It’s not Granite City, Madison, and Venice that need to recover, it’s the entire Midwest! You should drive through Cairo Illinois
Is it me or does this sound like juice wrlds all girls are the same hook? (Which I think was actually ripped off from sting or something?)
Born there and family lived there since 1940s as immigrants mostly. Most if not all worked in the mills. Used to be a booming town up until the 80s or so. Had relatives literally lived right on the edge of the plant, across the street I think was on E 23rd Street? Grandparents lived on Edwards St.
this guy is brave
They used to have a corn syrup refinery
Can u do one on litchfield where taxes are 3.1% of your homes value every year.
I plan on going there one day.
What are property taxes like in Granite City as compared to St.Louis
High as hell
I live in Granite city
u started on the road i go to school well kinda
You drove by my old house lol
BOTH Granite City and Madison have Rail YARDS the Alton and Southern Gateway Yard and Madison is home of the TRRA Madison Yard (NS/BNSF ) I WOULD TRAVEL THERE catch Trains and they do have good Food
Home of NFL Hall of Famer Kevin Green.
The majority of the criminals used to come from other neighboring towns and cities. Granite City was a great place to grow up but I do admit that steel mill layoffs and demographic changes have been taking place and along with that comes even more crime and property value losses. You get what you vote for or end up with whatever you get if you don’t vote at all.
You should come to the Centralia area
I’m planning to for my next road trip
Yeah centralia has gone extremely downhill over the years
I went to Centralia once. It smelled so bad, I couldn't leave fast enough
I grew up in granite city ya I’m only 14 but I did live there for 13 years before moving to Florida I really do miss that place while there was some racist people there was a lot of Hispanic and black people and I’d say that the newer generations there seem to be a more of a positive most of the people are very friendly and when it doesn’t look all gloomy like it did in the video it’s a pretty cheerful place. One thing k rlly didn’t like about the place was the steel mill/ factory in the beginning overall it’s a nice place but there is definitely better places 😁💛✨
Yeah that steel mill is a curse to the city and so many idiots praise it. As if it somehow benefits the poor community. No they just get air pollution and health problems
Crazy I’m 43 and I lived in Granite city for about 20 years and I now live in Florida too
The spirits of our ancestors who suffered are there.
Lots of room for improvement 😂
What North St. Louis neighborhoods you driving wells goodfellow Jeff vanderlou Lewis place and academy neighborhoods
You'll just have to wait and see ;)
Had my first kiss in that cinema...
Mine was in the park on Kate street
Go to triangle park lol
Its important that when you discuss the known history of the cities and towns that you visit, that you do mention the painful reality of racism. There are are probably a few viewers who did not even know about such a thing as 'sundown towns'. Thanks!
Right on the nose. I remember when the NAACP bussed kids in to the high school in the early 90's cause it was still segregated, there was damn near a riot.
Jeebuz...it's one bleak street after another...
Pretty stale isn’t it??
Um, maybe because it's raining !
While now somewhat mixed Granite City is still mostly white and full of poor white people who's parents or grandparents were often once middle-class or well off. Pretty depressing looking!
Now Granite City sucks, We have a bad mayor , trashy streets, little business,and the school system is also kinda bad, and the few stores we gave don't have much you may have to go to other cities to get the stuff you need.The businessess also have bad costumer service one time people were passing a baby back and forth through the window at Rally's ans several time when I went to Taco Bell the doirs were lock even though they were open .
I'm from Madison, Wisconsin and went to Southern Illinois University at Edwardsville back in the late 1980s. I was told that Granite City was a place to avoid. After driving through it on the way to downtown St. Louis, I can see why. Nothing but trouble there. Let the place die in peace.
I grew up in the suburbs just north of GC in the 70s. We were kinda poor working class but you really need not lock your doors at night and it was safe for the kids. A little rough and tumble but certainly not crime ridden or deadly.
@@timpatrick2109 Dude, I went to college at SIUE with someone who grew up in Mitchell, the part of North Granite you're talking about. It used to be a hideout for Al Capone and his gang and prime recruiting grounds for white supremacy groups. At one time, Granite City had more adult entertainment venues than any city of any size in Illinois. Nothing but trouble in that place, always was. Reminisce all you want about it, but there are those who knew it different.
@@larondalewis6800 Crimes were few and far in between? It's southern Illinois, one of the most economically depressed areas in the country! You'd have to go to the deep South to find places just as bad off.
Like what kind of trouble ???
Looks like some of my comments have been deleted. I wonder why?? Some people don’t like hearing the truth I guess.
Don't stop and lock your doors
Oh please
Madison got a new police chief he used to be Police chief of Fairview Heights Illinois he turned Fairview around he can Madison
Umm y granite city?? It's lame here? I live here? I'm bored..😭
Bro I went to marryvill worthen and Mitchell and there were fights every day man and that wasn’t boring
no
madison dont need to turn aROUND WHAT HAPPEN THEWRE IS WHAT MAKES IT MADION MY HOME TIME
I do like sundown towns though it's nice
This video is good. It has a lot of information in it. Unfortunately, the constant rhythmic tapping and repetitive untuned guitar riff is super annoying. 🥴
Granite city zzzzz snooze fest
Sorry, but I would find it hard to wake up every morning in a city such as this. Even the homeless don't want to hang out here.
Yup… me too
So I just came across this video today. I love your videos. Granite City is full of crackheads now it's terrible.
So many places seem to be. Urban and rural.
I'm one of the 12k to leave, as soon as I was of legal age to do so. The whole area racist, and anti-Semitic as hell, way too many white power advocates.
Granite city has some of the worst air pollution. The epa needs to come clean this place up. These coal industries exploit the city
When I lived in Hazelwood MO, I always looked at Granite City and that whole area as likeva 3rd world country, so much different than MO.. When I think of GC I think of grey drab clouds, mud, smokestacks with polluting companies, low class ugly people, and get a picture of like a lifeless soviet era town, where I wouldn't be surprised to see bread lines. I hate Illinois. Lol
Not all of Illinois is like that. The northern part of the state near Chicago is nice. I grew up in the Chicago area and our version of Metro East is Northwest Indiana. Lots of smoke stacks and shut down steel plants, also smells awful.
All of Illinois is not like that, and thee Metro-East has great potential. And you should never ever look down on somebody or some place with a snap judgment. You are no better than people from Illinois, just because you are from Missouri or [ Misery ] L.0.L. Br0. I was just kidding with that last part though, but I think that you get my very valid points.
st clair hella chill and welcoming.
Yeah there is so many polluting industries. It's horrible
i like your videos. But Granite City sucks!!
It’s decided. GC sucks