WTH is Smok wawelski?!

แชร์
ฝัง
  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 31 ม.ค. 2023
  • It's dangerous to go alone, check out our Links!
    Patreon: www.patreon.com/raptorchatter
    Twitter: raptor_chatter
    Redbubble: www.redbubble.com/people/RaptorChatter/shop
    Discord: / discord
    Smok wawelesi was the top predator of the Late Triassic in Poland. It lived alongside dinosaurs, and large land dwelling crocs called psuedosuchians. And it was probably one of these. But it's bones are weird, they show things that no psuedosuchian or dinosaur has, and also some things that only one of those group has. So what it the current science on what the hell Smok even was?
  • วิทยาศาสตร์และเทคโนโลยี

ความคิดเห็น • 89

  • @StrawberryCelebi
    @StrawberryCelebi ปีที่แล้ว +17

    My eyes read Smok wawelski but my brain said Mike Wazowski

  • @kamilpoter4022
    @kamilpoter4022 ปีที่แล้ว +65

    As a Polish geology/biology student (0:14 is exactly the place where I walk though every day!) I am so delighted that the news about Smok is spreading worldwide thanks to you.
    .
    A few years ago a paleontology museum in Lisowice, where Smok was found was so much underrated that in order to enter it I had to call the owner of the building to unlock the basement floor, where the museum is located :(.

  • @jedrek1521
    @jedrek1521 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    Thanks for the awesome info. As a kid growing up in Poland Ive heard the tale many times, so cool to see it "come to life". There's a fire breathing smok statue outside of Wawel. Apparently now the fire is activated via sms.

  • @alioramus1637
    @alioramus1637 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Maybe the most interesting Archosaur from Poland. Swedish scientists where i live were also involved in the study that described Smok coprolites and it's bone crushing abilities.

  • @Eidolon1andOnly
    @Eidolon1andOnly ปีที่แล้ว +90

    To be more accurate, the name is pronounced more like "smoke vaveleski"
    The W's in Polish are pronounced like V's in English. And the O would be pronounced more like the O in Oak, than the O in Hot.

    • @kamilpoter4022
      @kamilpoter4022 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      As a Polish person I can add that to be more precise 'O' in 'smok' is pronounced almost the same as in oak, but more quickly:
      /smɔɡ vavɛlski/ is like
      /oʊk/ (oak), but without "ʊ".

    • @crimesartbalaur
      @crimesartbalaur ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Gotta love how letter w will not sound like w but there is still a w sound, represented instead by a fucking L with weird arm stumps :,)

    • @RaptorChatter
      @RaptorChatter  ปีที่แล้ว +26

      Good to know! I always forget to double check the names. Will try and do that next time!

    • @crimesartbalaur
      @crimesartbalaur ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Also, Lisowicia should be pronounced more like "Leesoh-veech-iya"?

    • @theilluminati682
      @theilluminati682 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Another polish person here, I think a more butcher-proof explaination of the pronounciation would be 'smuk vavelskee', just the 'u' could be mixed with an 'o' and (idk how well I'm explaining this) instead of the sound being more drawn out like usual in the english language, be really short.

  • @AA-zb2wo
    @AA-zb2wo ปีที่แล้ว +9

    The place where where they found it is actually folded right know and it's not changing any soon. Anyway I'm happy that you're talking about Smok and Lisowicia, me and my friend are going to visit Lisowice, a place where they found both of them soon

  • @mitchellskene8176
    @mitchellskene8176 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Sounds like Smok is a Dinosauromorph, probably from a linage that was close to the split. That said, it could also be from a another linage of Archosaurs that we didn't know about previously.

    • @victory8928
      @victory8928 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Agree the more dinosaur traits could just be the result of convergent evolution with large theropod dinosaurs.

  • @GenghisDon1970
    @GenghisDon1970 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    My mind went where you eventually did...Smok may well be the end a whole different archosaur line. Ankles will probably settle things for most, someday, but maybe they won't (or should not). Time will tell

  • @JohnnyBravo2550
    @JohnnyBravo2550 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    SMOK WALAWESSI I CANT

  • @nemo_is_real
    @nemo_is_real ปีที่แล้ว +5

    As a pole who's planning to study palaeontology I am THRILLED to see a video covering Smok wawelski. I hope to learn more about it & other polish prehistoric animals when I get to college :D

  • @mikesnyder1788
    @mikesnyder1788 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Excellent presentation! This amazing critter Smok really puts the Polish city of Lisowice on the map! I have known about the synapsid Lisowicia for some time now. Question: How closely related are the Smok and the Teleocrater? Probably not related but I just thought I would ask. Thanks in advance!

    • @RaptorChatter
      @RaptorChatter  ปีที่แล้ว +4

      It might be close and it might not. It seems like Teleocrater is one of the early avemetatarsalians closer to dinosaurs. So until we get Smok more defined it's hard to know for sure.

    • @mikesnyder1788
      @mikesnyder1788 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@RaptorChatter Thanks for the reply! This is such interesting information and so we will just wait to see how many more fossils are discovered and how closely related these two amazing Triassic critters are to one another. Again, great presentation!

  • @conner13.c16
    @conner13.c16 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Noah to the dinosaurs and pseudosuchians: what the hell is this?? (Referring to Smok)

  • @aldenconsolver3428
    @aldenconsolver3428 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    That is one very special animal, thanks for showing it off - My guess is that sometime in the future the Polish Geology Society will find a few more fossils and we will all be saying that's perfectly obvious , for the records and for after new finding occurs - I had no idea what it was

  • @ishclayton8667
    @ishclayton8667 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I love that we’re still discovering new animals that gives us a deeper understanding about their world. So cool.

  • @WHACK_space_rock
    @WHACK_space_rock ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Much thanks for keeping intros and outros brief w/ just the vanity card...well done...!

  • @WspaniayPies
    @WspaniayPies ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Yes, it's pronounced VaVelski with heavy Vs :) And I love that you did an episode about our very important legend, one of my favorites from childhood, except I felt sorry for the dragon :,)

    • @RaptorChatter
      @RaptorChatter  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yeah, that seems like a rough way for the dragon to go. But glad you liked the video!

  • @zombiedad
    @zombiedad ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks Raptor Chatter. ❤. Another fascinating fossil mystery and a really interesting animal. Smok!❤

  • @greyideasthetheliopurodon4640
    @greyideasthetheliopurodon4640 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    To be fair tho, the lack of a post front is a dinosaur synapnomorphy

  • @josephlongbone4255
    @josephlongbone4255 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Smok may be cool, but don't let him distract you from the fact that the Polish name for beaver is Bóbr, which is the quaintest name for anything ever.

  • @paleoph6168
    @paleoph6168 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    It do be Smok

  • @kyrab7914
    @kyrab7914 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You know, I always wondered...Evolution is kind of a generational thing, although extinction events do accelerate it. But we've gotta find some transitional fossils that just aren't easily placed or defined. It'll be interesting to see how this and maybe other discoveries progress in time.

  • @kamion53
    @kamion53 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    the dragon called Smok? nice name, sounding a bit familiar....... oh.... sht.... Smaug.

  • @TheMrPeteChannel
    @TheMrPeteChannel ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Must find the ankle!

  • @hubertop1247
    @hubertop1247 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    My city 🦖🤙

  • @sauraplay2095
    @sauraplay2095 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice video!👍

  • @allozaurxd6911
    @allozaurxd6911 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Pozdro z Polski🇵🇱🇵🇱🇵🇱

  • @thomasnaas2813
    @thomasnaas2813 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I thought it was the name of a polish ice hockey star.

  • @ilonalaurakokoszka9639
    @ilonalaurakokoszka9639 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Polska górą!!!!

  • @tonyevans9999
    @tonyevans9999 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    gosh.... is it a missing link of some sort?

  • @Blue..
    @Blue.. ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Isn't Smok Wawelski that the green dude from monsters Inc?

  • @ivamccann5112
    @ivamccann5112 ปีที่แล้ว

    The fox of dinosaurs and crocodilian

  • @tonyevans9999
    @tonyevans9999 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I am thinking an archosaur with convergent features relating to environmental pressures

    • @titanomachy2217
      @titanomachy2217 ปีที่แล้ว

      Both pseudosuchians and dinosaurs are archosaurs. Archosaurs are all diapsid reptiles more closely related to birds and crocodilians than to lepidosaurs like lizards.

  • @oleandreasjensen5263
    @oleandreasjensen5263 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The evulution always find a way for its sucsesses. - SMOK is a proof of that. - Remember the Triassic was a long period of time, and all in all we have few fossils from this time. - Try to imagine how many lifeforms hat lived through tis long period of time.

  • @katsumi2
    @katsumi2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think there is a letter missing in the title.

  • @AstronautLemur
    @AstronautLemur ปีที่แล้ว

    Ah, my country!

  • @erictalaveramartinez4160
    @erictalaveramartinez4160 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sounds like barnacles and Darwin all over again.

  • @LolUGotBusted
    @LolUGotBusted ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I am pretty sure 'smok wawelski' is some kind of code for smoking weed.

  • @adamgallyot9063
    @adamgallyot9063 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Pseudodinosaurosuchian

  • @BartJBols
    @BartJBols ปีที่แล้ว

    Can it be both at the same time?

    • @AndrewTBP
      @AndrewTBP 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      No.

  • @t-r-e-x452
    @t-r-e-x452 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    One person suggested that Smok was a natural hybrid.

  • @enderman_666
    @enderman_666 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    wawalessy

  • @angelamccollister
    @angelamccollister ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Everytime you said Smok, I heard Spock. 🖖

  • @tymoteuszbabinski8854
    @tymoteuszbabinski8854 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    POLSKAAAAAAAA

  • @crc.agoodguy
    @crc.agoodguy ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I do understand that this man's interest is in dinosaurs. His knowledge is precious. I hope that he adds his knowledge of how muscles, cartilage and bones will be added to the understanding of how humans evolved.

  • @oqsy
    @oqsy ปีที่แล้ว

    is smok

  • @wingedhussar1453
    @wingedhussar1453 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow no wonder the poles though it wad a dragon .that dinosaur us basicly a dragon

  • @Crakinator
    @Crakinator ปีที่แล้ว

    I think it looks more like a dinosaur. Probably close relative of Herrerasaurus.

    • @Nordisk11
      @Nordisk11 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It's an archosaur, but it's neither a dinosaur nor a crocodilian

  • @JohnAvillaHerpetocultural
    @JohnAvillaHerpetocultural ปีที่แล้ว

    This has to be a separate lineage like turtles. How could it be either a dinosaur or crocodiliform?

    • @RaptorChatter
      @RaptorChatter  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Whatever it was, it was super convergent on at least one of the groups. I wouldn't be totally shocked to find out it wasn't super close to either, but we really need some more complete remains for that.

    • @JohnAvillaHerpetocultural
      @JohnAvillaHerpetocultural ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@RaptorChatter it’s the weird mix of croc and Dino traits. It makes me think it had to have diverged from of a line basal to both.

  • @lexibyday9504
    @lexibyday9504 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I really think smok is a third group seperate to psudosuchians and arcosaurs that could totally be called draconians (if the name isn't taken) because smok was a dragon like super predator that only would have gotten more unstopable as it evolved. The problem with being a super predator is you end up sending yourself extinct by being too eficient at killing your own food source, much like humans are doing today. So, in short, the reason we don't have dragons is because the first of them was already too powerful.

  • @kilianortmann9979
    @kilianortmann9979 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The pseudo-est of suchians.

  • @thedoruk6324
    @thedoruk6324 ปีที่แล้ว

    Convergent Evolution anyone ?

  • @robotaholic
    @robotaholic ปีที่แล้ว

    Make up your mind crazy pseudonymasaurus

  • @maavet2351
    @maavet2351 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love eating dinosaurs

    • @RaptorChatter
      @RaptorChatter  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      They taste great battered & fried

  • @brianedwards7142
    @brianedwards7142 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    An escaped research animal from the alien research post that engineered the dinosaurs. 😉

  • @Denneth_D.
    @Denneth_D. ปีที่แล้ว +1

    W is pronounced like V (polish spelling is interesting)

  • @seadragon4425
    @seadragon4425 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    (This is a joke) Maybe smok was the result of a crocodile and a dinosaur hooking up lol XD

    • @IMADINOSAURNOTABIRD
      @IMADINOSAURNOTABIRD ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Kid smok: "Mommy, how did we come to exist?"
      Mom: "When a dinosaur and crocodile love each other very much..."

  • @theilluminati682
    @theilluminati682 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    A more correct way, the most accurate way I could come up with to pronounce the name would be smuk vavelskee.
    As a polish person I cringe every time you try to say it (lol not your fault) so I tried to come up with the best way to type out the pronounciation for an english-speaking person. I think although this pronounciation looks weird, is near impossible to butcher. You can always just make google translate say it for you.

    • @kinderblutsaufenderreptiloide
      @kinderblutsaufenderreptiloide ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I was in Poland in 2011 on a paleontological field trip. That was nice!

    • @theilluminati682
      @theilluminati682 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@kinderblutsaufenderreptiloide I recommend visiting Malbork Castle one day if you get a chance. Beautiful place, well preserved, tons of cool history to learn from there.

    • @kinderblutsaufenderreptiloide
      @kinderblutsaufenderreptiloide ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@theilluminati682 Thank you! I hope I can do that once.

    • @RaptorChatter
      @RaptorChatter  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I always forget to double check the pronunciation, sorry! After seeing how poorly I did here I'm going to try and be a bit more aware of doing that.

  • @tymoteuszbabinski8854
    @tymoteuszbabinski8854 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    it's pronounced more like vavelsky in polish v is w, and w is ł

  • @gordonsmith5589
    @gordonsmith5589 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Stop saying I mean so much. Say what you mean......

  • @Beastlango
    @Beastlango ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Maybe it’s a third line that never came to be

    • @RaptorChatter
      @RaptorChatter  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      It could be we really don't know. It will certainly be interesting whenever there's more of it found.