i made a gyroscope out of 1 years ago but i dont recommend this, it is a waste of a good drive, the 1 i used was dead lol, i removed the heads, the spacers and doubled up the number of platters for weight, it didnt care that it has no read heads, it would just spin up and run when 5+12v was applied, i wonder where it is..... i still have it...SOMEWHERE lol
I somehow ended up with a 400 meg SCSI hard drive once. I reformatted it and then copied a single mp3 file which nearly filled it up, and then I just left it that way.
I have a 5.25” 6 bay RAID with sequential start. Now THAT is noisy AF!!! Takes for ever to spin up. Sounds like a whole fighter squadron revving up on the deck.
WOW I cannot believe you found one of those HP server grade drives! Those were on the higher end side when they were released, and were used in a lot of server grade equipment, or for companies that needed a large amount of data stored. They were really a great option at the time and are insanely well built as you can even tell yourself I'm sure! I am curious, are you willing to sell the drive by chance? I deeply have been looking for one of these drives but they are long since gone, since most of them have already been scrapped and recycled also due to the fact companies would protect their data when the drive got retired. If you ever want to sell the drive or are interested in doing so, please let me know. I will definitely give it a good home if you so decide you have no use for the drive anymore, and I am 100% serious haha I LOVE these things but it is a shame they are so hard to get a hold of now. I really enjoyed the video by the way! Thanks for showing this beautiful finely made drive off : ))
I very much suspect that the HD in question was shared as a classroom server, probably Mac OS 7 or 7.5. Bailey's Book House and KidPix are standard grades 1-3 classroom fare from the late 90's and early 00's. Most of it is stuff I was using as a tech ed in 2001 to 2003... Stuntcopter: the further the guy falls into the bed of the wagon, the more points. If you miss the wagon's bed, squick. Hypercard is NOT a PP equivalent; it's a programming environment. That's definitely a school tech support and/or server, possibly a private school. Silverlining was drive formatting software... Such logs are pretty standard in the district I worked in. It's also worth noting that a couple of the towers could fit a full height such as the Quadra could hold a single full height, but you'd need to pull the floppy... or invert the drive. A buddy of mine did that with a 950. Most schools didn't have them.
I absolutely love digital archeology, there is so much stuff laying around on old hard drives, it's like opening a treasure every time a drive spins up and is recoverable.
This makes me want to take exta care when I dispose of an old hard drive! I took a magnet and then a hammer to the last one to impede any data recovery efforts.
Never fear the gigantic SCSI drives, they're built like brick sh*t houses, they rarely ever fail! This brought back some amazing memories for me as a guy who had 5 or 6 of these sometime in the middle-late 90's as stroage for an IRC server I hosted at the time.. these drives were quite old by then and very cheap, by tech standards of the day anyway. Much cheaper than buying bigger brand new IDE drives, and about 80 million times more reliable anyhow. There was one I held onto over the years that got thrown around from apartment to apartment, used literally as a door stop and paperweight yet still worked perfectly the day I fired it up before throwing it away just to make sure it was clean. I mean not even hiccup it just worked. God I miss that sort of hardware reliability
@@McVaio if you've got the ones that for sure are self-parking, almost 90% of the time you can get a stuck one to spin up if you turn it over and thump the center of the spindle just right or whatever you can do to free up the motor
@@Drmcclung They're spinning up but they don't initialize at all, except for one. And that one has so much surface damage that I can't even reinitialize the FAT.
Surprised it doesn't come with an FAA cirtification - sounds like a et starting up. Cool drive - used to have a similar one hooked up to my Amiga through a scsi expansion dock thing :)
Got one of these beasts in 1992 for my i486 PC and used it till 2000. It was a 1 Gig Maxtor drive, at the time it ran around $4,000, but got it real cheap ($0). ;)
1GB equals 1024MB, so it would really take 794.3757575758 of those hard drives to equal the 256GB M.2 SSD. The weight of that many hard drives comes to 5,401.76 pounds or 2.7 tons. Anyway, maths aside, it's always interesting to go through a "time capsule" hard drive. Cheers! 🍻
Great stuff. Computer archeology is a fascinating and noble hobby (he says, looking at literally hundreds of 5.25 disks that need processing). I am sure that drive will go lovely with something in your collection.
I have an old differential scsi hard drive formatted in fat32. I've been hoarding it for years until I take the time to get what's on it, planning on using an old pci card that can run it. I think it has some of my first ever C programs on it, probably the first tomb raider game
What physical size is it? Most of the SCSI Drives I've run into were 3.5". Definitely recommend getting stuff off while you can.. they have lasted a darn long time and I assume will last longer than IDE units but probably not too much longer?
@@TechTimeTraveller It's full-size 5.25" and pretty tall, looks to be about the same size as the one in your video. I've moved to so many different places over the years with it, should get around to it one of these days. Last time I fired it up was probably early 00's or last century.
Oh my god, I have so many memories of Kid Works 2 on my PC. Drew lots of pictures and wrote lots of stories. Never made it say bad things, though, at least not as a kid.
Interesting find! Those old school full height drives were something else, huh? I used to have a drive like that, iirc it was a 5.25" SCSI HD, but half height... still, it weighed a fair amount, and the noise it made when starting up and spinning up to speed was pretty epic. This sounds to me like a "changing of the guards" situation... an outgoing IT person documenting stuff for their successor. A lot of the documents sound like they have a "voice" to it, i.e. it has the sound of someone talking TO someone, which is not something you would typically see if someone were just writing stuff down just for documentation's sake. From all the kid apps, it does sound like it was used in some sort of school situation (or maybe some sort of a day care type place?) But then there are those seemingly incongruous references to USGS?? Could it be an institution that happens to share the same acronym? (I can't think of anything like that) Or maybe it is a computer that changed hands one or more times, and each successive new owner just didn't bother wiping it? (which is certainly plausible, given (for example) the absurd number of used systems/drives sold on eBay, etc. that still have random personal crap on them)
Wow, seeing some of this software in action unlocked some childhood memories! KidWorks 2 and Storywriter especially, those sound effects are burned into my memory really deep. Must have played those games for hours after school while waiting for my mom to finish up her lesson plans for the next day!
hypercard can do a lot more than just powerpoint. like do myst. or some rudimentary business specific applications. it used to be a paying job to do stuff with it.
Due to the battery problem if possible you should completely remove the battery / holder from the board, and then reattach it with about 0.5m of wire in a coil. Put the battery inside a sandwich bag and secure it somewhere that it will stay upright inside the case. If you forget to remove the battery before putting it in storage, this will help prevent the electrolyte from eating through the battery shell and then crawling along the wires to the board. It is best to replace all soldered-on batteries with coin cell holders (labeled with the type) so you can easily remove it
I’d leave the drive as it is btw, it’s a artifact of the time, some IT guy at a school was mashing up old Apple 2 gear and these disks, I think that’s as cool.
Heh, I think in the work log he references the woman with printer problems you read in the earlier letter... "District Ann Doran Still attempting to end her printing and other sudden freezes. I have taken out After Dark, Conflict Catcher, and now am recommending a new loading of the System from 3.5 floppy disks. Altogether since the New Year, three visits." Sounds like he was definitely a lot more frustrated than he let into the letter (except perhaps when he said you have to CHOOSE the right printer and right port so CHOOSE it, haha) My guess is, since the letter mentioned disabling "cutsie screen savers", she didn't know how and he had to go over and do it. Since everything else mentions room numbers in a school, I have to wonder if she was a bigwig in the school district and used her connections to get free IT support...
@@TechTimeTraveller I helped admin my school’s network when I was doing college, and that was _more_ than enough for me! Never again! I don’t regret it though. It can help to talk shop when on the phone with my ISP, electric, and so on, haha. Since they can talk about what they’re actually doing rather than follow some basic script! Like one time the guy on the phone admitted their database software was acting up and he had to purge and re-add me before triggering a manual ingest, because I mentioned having to do that for some students’ laptops. All they would’ve said otherwise was to be patient because The Process takes a while.
I've got a Fujitsu M2351A drive sitting behind me right now. It's a 19" rackmount hard drive from 1984, which weighs 132 pounds (60kg)! About 470MB of storage! In comparison, your SCSI drive is tiny! Still a great little beast in any case.
@@petevenuti7355 Sounds like you are referring to a similar drive I guess? It's an SMD interface, something very obscure and difficult to find information for. I *think* it's a 'standard' that CDC developed, if that helps.
@@TechTimeTraveller- Indeed it was and still is. However, the type of graphics work I was doing paid so well that I could afford it. :) Think about it, a mere 1 gig for 4K. lol
Am I the only one getting mental jump-cuts to Microsoft BOB during the Kid Works 2 section? Increasingly rapid back and forth cuts with more and more bit-rot until both the windows critical error and unhappy mac sounds play at full volume then the sound of my own voice screaming into the abyss?
I had one extremely similar to that - once upon a time. I upgraded it with a Seagate ST410800N - same size, same weight, but 9GB of storage. I have no idea what happened to the old one.
49:50 $16.50 an hour back in 1996. That would of been crazy. Your saying that is barley Minimum Wage? Where do you live? Minimum Wage here in Iowa is still $7.25
What interface uses a 50 pin and a 20 pin ribbon cable? I have an old discus brand drive that's 24 in long and I don't know what the heck it connects to..
20:00 Nostalgia flashback overload! Bailey's Bookhouse was definitely one of my earliest memories on a computer. Almost utterly forgotten this existed. That little jingle violently torpedoed me straight back to the 90's out of thin air.
This kind of thing is fascinating. I bought a G3 as not working a while ago and did manage to get it to boot up. I had real issues about whether it was appropriate to browse through someone else's stuff. I'd welcome any thoughts on this. I decided that if you don't want anything browsed, then you destroy it. It was really fascinating and a little sad and I'm glad I have a copy of the computer setup and the user data.
I have never delved into MAC but I do have a 4 - 3.5" disk SCSI tower on an ISA Adaptec card in my Legend QDI 440BX. Not sure of all the sizes but I do know 2 of them are 17GB. There is a lot of files including over 140 flash games. The drives are setup as erase protect because I kept customers files on the drives for the most part. I do have some software I created like over 8,000 karaoke files (.kar) for VanBasco karaoke, auto run disk ISO's, auto setup disks & a ton to popular graphics editing tools. I have not used the PC since Windows 7 was released. It is a Pentium slot 1, 768 ECC + the PC is fully maxed out & did beta test Windows 7 build 7100 successfully for 2 years. Both the PC & SCSI towers are painted silver hammered paint. I have found SCSI drives are the most durable ever.
@31:39 I have some very strong memories attached to the Apple // version of Factory from elementary school... (Class of '03) It is 1992, I'm seated at one of the "Snow White Design Language" //e machines in the computer lab...
You said you would send people who Dislike one of your "special gifts". Perhaps you didn't realize that it's actually pronounced "special JIFts". It's a common mistake.
There was a better version of Dinosaur Adventure called 3-D Dinosaur Adventure. It had more activities, more movies, and the CD-ROM version even came with a 3D maze game called Save the Dinosaurs.
I used to buy these up at car boot sales for pennies and just see if i could get them working on my. Amiga (A500 and gvp sidecar) in the late 80s early 90s, lol
Holy crap, that's heavy.... I have two 2TB M.2 drives in my newer laptop and 8TB of storage from my 2017 gaming laptop on 2 M.2 and one 2.5inch SSDs.... How many of those cinder block drives I'd need to match the storage (they'd never be anywhere near as fast as SSDs) would be impractical as I don't know if any period system or even modified modern systems would support so many drives..
Hey I remember Creative Writer! There was also an illustrator version that I loved to play with as a kid. They were so weird, if you wanted to create a document or image, why use a program where you have to navigate a "building" instead of just opening a workspace?
I had no idea it was anything special! But yes I won't do anything to damage or destroy it. Might even sell it if others really desire it... after I get the data offloaded somewhere. Why are they so desired? Just rarity?
@@TechTimeTraveller Legacy systems used by some businesses on machines that cannot be easily or affordably upgraded rely on these drives or their lower capacity (and even rarer) brethern. Makes it wild to me there were in a high school of all places - one assumes that would haver been more true closer to the time these drives were around. On the collectors end, because of that reliances some businesses have, they don't show up on the collector market often. The people looking to maintain these dinosaurs usually scoop them up quickly if the price doesn't break the bank. I used to have a handful of them around from my days in IBM, ones that were going to be thrown anyways and I had repaired, and even clearly labelled as repaired/as is they sold relatively quickly. Made me wonder if I should ask more.
By the way - the warning label is right in a sense - be very careful with the jumpers! Bending pins on those made the drives very testy rather quickly. These things were basically bombproof but if they got bad inputs on the jumpers the controller would freak out and do weird things, causing a lot of strange malfunctions. It was an easy fix if you knew to look for it - but only if!
They literally just copied the entire HDD and renamed the "System Folder" to "disabledSystem Folder" so the mac wouldn't see it as bootable. Very professional backup
Back then peripheral hardware was cross compatible with basically any other computer so long as you had an interface. You would see parts from apple 2gs inside PC's all of the time. Same thing in reverse. Then the PowerPC came out with RISC, and that's when apple and IBM/pc started their first incompatibility phase. That only lasted for about a decade, and after the ipod success apple poured the profits back into their own PC market, and this time they just used the same parts as everyone else. That went on until just recently, like two years ago I think. One tidbit though, back then apple would install their own firmware and like MS before them if MacOS was not detected the hardware would slowly corrupt the Non-Mac OS. So if you were trying to build a new machine from a broken apple and a broken PC, you usually had to solder new off the shelf controllers/firmware roms on the hardware PCB to avoid that problem. Recently apple abandoned intel/CISC and is going with SOC/RISC processors again. (I'm not sure who's building their processors these days) Either way, I don't fix apple computers, apple sues people who do that without going through their CRAP (Certified Repairman for Apple PC's) course. In the last three years, I have successfully taken as many customers from apple as I possibly can. I put all the broken apple products in my crucible and smelt the PM's out of them. That's the only thing valuable in an Apple Product anyway. Final Cut is just childs version of video editing, and the only reason hollywood uses it, is because of the kickbacks so.....
I still have one of those marvelous Enlight PC cases. If you have any use for additional 5.25" drive rails for it, I have many extras so you're welcome to them. Did you know that Touch was the house brand of Supercom, a fine Canadian distributor that was gobbled up by Synnex? Ah, the good old days . . . Anyway, nice video but the noise was hard to endure!
its obvious your not a everyday mac user. That whole system is fairly vanilla. The disabled system folder is what happens after you do a clean install without initializing the volume. The system suitcase, finder etc are usually put in the trash so you probably could re-bless it and get it booting again. I remember having a scsi drive exactly the same, even sans case. With getting it going, you know its scsi so like you could have booted the systems up and then plugged in the drive and mounted bertha. Although its never officially advised I have never had any issues hot plugging scsi drives and doing a scsi bus scan to get them mounted. Think you will also find that the drive has self-terminating connectors, as would the card/board so not really an issue with that, and with only a few devices on a short chain its not really an issue imo
Heya! I love your content but I’m not sure if I’m such a fan of the constant sound of a spinning drive. I love the clunking of an old drive as much as the next person but the constant droning, not so much. Just my 2 cents, keep up the good work 👌
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What should I do with this 330mb 5.25" SCSI drive?
i made a gyroscope out of 1 years ago but i dont recommend this, it is a waste of a good drive, the 1 i used was dead lol, i removed the heads, the spacers and doubled up the number of platters for weight, it didnt care that it has no read heads, it would just spin up and run when 5+12v was applied, i wonder where it is..... i still have it...SOMEWHERE lol
Install CP/m and have practically infinite storage
I somehow ended up with a 400 meg SCSI hard drive once. I reformatted it and then copied a single mp3 file which nearly filled it up, and then I just left it that way.
put it in a soundproof room!
Give it as a burn offering to the sky gods
I could hear that thing just looking at the thumbnail! 😂
Thankfully it's not as bad as later 3.5 units. But it's still pretty dang loud!
I have a 5.25” 6 bay RAID with sequential start.
Now THAT is noisy AF!!!
Takes for ever to spin up. Sounds like a whole fighter squadron revving up on the deck.
@@mixmashandtinker3266Please upload a video of it!
WOW I cannot believe you found one of those HP server grade drives! Those were on the higher end side when they were released, and were used in a lot of server grade equipment, or for companies that needed a large amount of data stored. They were really a great option at the time and are insanely well built as you can even tell yourself I'm sure! I am curious, are you willing to sell the drive by chance? I deeply have been looking for one of these drives but they are long since gone, since most of them have already been scrapped and recycled also due to the fact companies would protect their data when the drive got retired. If you ever want to sell the drive or are interested in doing so, please let me know. I will definitely give it a good home if you so decide you have no use for the drive anymore, and I am 100% serious haha I LOVE these things but it is a shame they are so hard to get a hold of now. I really enjoyed the video by the way! Thanks for showing this beautiful finely made drive off : ))
I very much suspect that the HD in question was shared as a classroom server, probably Mac OS 7 or 7.5.
Bailey's Book House and KidPix are standard grades 1-3 classroom fare from the late 90's and early 00's.
Most of it is stuff I was using as a tech ed in 2001 to 2003...
Stuntcopter: the further the guy falls into the bed of the wagon, the more points. If you miss the wagon's bed, squick.
Hypercard is NOT a PP equivalent; it's a programming environment.
That's definitely a school tech support and/or server, possibly a private school.
Silverlining was drive formatting software...
Such logs are pretty standard in the district I worked in.
It's also worth noting that a couple of the towers could fit a full height such as the Quadra could hold a single full height, but you'd need to pull the floppy... or invert the drive. A buddy of mine did that with a 950. Most schools didn't have them.
I absolutely love digital archeology, there is so much stuff laying around on old hard drives, it's like opening a treasure every time a drive spins up and is recoverable.
This makes me want to take exta care when I dispose of an old hard drive! I took a magnet and then a hammer to the last one to impede any data recovery efforts.
I just learned that the famous flappy bird is a modern version of Baloons!
Never fear the gigantic SCSI drives, they're built like brick sh*t houses, they rarely ever fail! This brought back some amazing memories for me as a guy who had 5 or 6 of these sometime in the middle-late 90's as stroage for an IRC server I hosted at the time.. these drives were quite old by then and very cheap, by tech standards of the day anyway. Much cheaper than buying bigger brand new IDE drives, and about 80 million times more reliable anyhow. There was one I held onto over the years that got thrown around from apartment to apartment, used literally as a door stop and paperweight yet still worked perfectly the day I fired it up before throwing it away just to make sure it was clean. I mean not even hiccup it just worked. God I miss that sort of hardware reliability
All of my 5.25" full height SCSI drives unfortunately have failed. Still trying to find the first one that works.
@@McVaio if you've got the ones that for sure are self-parking, almost 90% of the time you can get a stuck one to spin up if you turn it over and thump the center of the spindle just right or whatever you can do to free up the motor
@@Drmcclung They're spinning up but they don't initialize at all, except for one. And that one has so much surface damage that I can't even reinitialize the FAT.
Surprised it doesn't come with an FAA cirtification - sounds like a et starting up. Cool drive - used to have a similar one hooked up to my Amiga through a scsi expansion dock thing :)
I had the PC version of Dinosaur Adventures and Space Adventures as a kid.
Nostalgia kicked in hard seeing this.
Got one of these beasts in 1992 for my i486 PC and used it till 2000. It was a 1 Gig Maxtor drive, at the time it ran around $4,000, but got it real cheap ($0). ;)
I was fixing computers for $12/hr in that timeframe. I think most of us were undercharging back then.
1GB equals 1024MB, so it would really take 794.3757575758 of those hard drives to equal the 256GB M.2 SSD.
The weight of that many hard drives comes to 5,401.76 pounds or 2.7 tons.
Anyway, maths aside, it's always interesting to go through a "time capsule" hard drive. Cheers! 🍻
Great stuff. Computer archeology is a fascinating and noble hobby (he says, looking at literally hundreds of 5.25 disks that need processing). I am sure that drive will go lovely with something in your collection.
That's a CDC/Imprimis Wren. These guys were the gold standard for high capacity, high reliability storage in the late 1980s and early 1990s.
Nope, the Wren drives don't have this curving down sheet metal lid. This really is an HP made drive, believe it or not!
Someone knew history. The Big Bertha was a very large WW I german howitzer.
3:40 You're not being cheap, you're being wise 👍
I have an old differential scsi hard drive formatted in fat32. I've been hoarding it for years until I take the time to get what's on it, planning on using an old pci card that can run it. I think it has some of my first ever C programs on it, probably the first tomb raider game
What physical size is it? Most of the SCSI Drives I've run into were 3.5". Definitely recommend getting stuff off while you can.. they have lasted a darn long time and I assume will last longer than IDE units but probably not too much longer?
@@TechTimeTraveller It's full-size 5.25" and pretty tall, looks to be about the same size as the one in your video. I've moved to so many different places over the years with it, should get around to it one of these days. Last time I fired it up was probably early 00's or last century.
That drive may have come out of an HP 9000 workstation or 3000 minicomputer.
37:40 The comet identified in the picture was Hyakutake. I didn’t see that one but I remember Hale-Bopp in ‘97.
Oh my god, I have so many memories of Kid Works 2 on my PC. Drew lots of pictures and wrote lots of stories. Never made it say bad things, though, at least not as a kid.
SilverLining is a disk partitioning and such tool for Macs.
Ayyy there he is!
Welp, 27:20 was a kick to the shins of nostalgia, bloody hell
While not nearly as fun you could image the drive and use an emulator. Super interesting video, finding the letters was cool
Interesting find! Those old school full height drives were something else, huh? I used to have a drive like that, iirc it was a 5.25" SCSI HD, but half height... still, it weighed a fair amount, and the noise it made when starting up and spinning up to speed was pretty epic.
This sounds to me like a "changing of the guards" situation... an outgoing IT person documenting stuff for their successor. A lot of the documents sound like they have a "voice" to it, i.e. it has the sound of someone talking TO someone, which is not something you would typically see if someone were just writing stuff down just for documentation's sake. From all the kid apps, it does sound like it was used in some sort of school situation (or maybe some sort of a day care type place?) But then there are those seemingly incongruous references to USGS?? Could it be an institution that happens to share the same acronym? (I can't think of anything like that) Or maybe it is a computer that changed hands one or more times, and each successive new owner just didn't bother wiping it? (which is certainly plausible, given (for example) the absurd number of used systems/drives sold on eBay, etc. that still have random personal crap on them)
The USGS has a "Research Vessel David H. Peterson" !
Wow, seeing some of this software in action unlocked some childhood memories! KidWorks 2 and Storywriter especially, those sound effects are burned into my memory really deep. Must have played those games for hours after school while waiting for my mom to finish up her lesson plans for the next day!
That hot air balloon game was a proto flappy bird game.
Dear GOD the noise. Forget about the weight, the noise would drive me mad even in a case.
I have an suitcase with 4 500GB hard disks, even though not viewed for years. I would like to test this soon.
An hero.
The semisurprised "it's not crashing" comment while booting up macos 9.1 reminds me of my experience in the late nineties when these weren't retro...
Just love the "Jet Engine" start up on that drive. Brings back good ol'memories
I am pretty sure i bought a 1gb version of that drive for work...i might stillhave it..
23:58 MacOS flappy bird from 1992 🤔
hypercard can do a lot more than just powerpoint. like do myst.
or some rudimentary business specific applications. it used to be a paying job to do stuff with it.
Due to the battery problem if possible you should completely remove the battery / holder from the board, and then reattach it with about 0.5m of wire in a coil. Put the battery inside a sandwich bag and secure it somewhere that it will stay upright inside the case. If you forget to remove the battery before putting it in storage, this will help prevent the electrolyte from eating through the battery shell and then crawling along the wires to the board. It is best to replace all soldered-on batteries with coin cell holders (labeled with the type) so you can easily remove it
I did IT work as a student. Those computers were sent district wide. As they aged they went from teacher machine, to elementary to adult education
Please say the the first thing after booting it on a working system was to BACK IT UP!!
that helicopter game! totally remember playing it at school, also not knowing how anything works
I’d leave the drive as it is btw, it’s a artifact of the time, some IT guy at a school was mashing up old Apple 2 gear and these disks, I think that’s as cool.
Heh, I think in the work log he references the woman with printer problems you read in the earlier letter...
"District Ann Doran
Still attempting to end her printing and other sudden freezes. I have taken out After Dark, Conflict Catcher, and now am recommending a new loading of the System from 3.5 floppy disks. Altogether since the New Year, three visits."
Sounds like he was definitely a lot more frustrated than he let into the letter (except perhaps when he said you have to CHOOSE the right printer and right port so CHOOSE it, haha)
My guess is, since the letter mentioned disabling "cutsie screen savers", she didn't know how and he had to go over and do it. Since everything else mentions room numbers in a school, I have to wonder if she was a bigwig in the school district and used her connections to get free IT support...
@kaitlyn__L That sounds quite plausible. I have sympathy for him.. I have had to write similar letters (emails) many times.
@@TechTimeTraveller I helped admin my school’s network when I was doing college, and that was _more_ than enough for me! Never again!
I don’t regret it though. It can help to talk shop when on the phone with my ISP, electric, and so on, haha. Since they can talk about what they’re actually doing rather than follow some basic script!
Like one time the guy on the phone admitted their database software was acting up and he had to purge and re-add me before triggering a manual ingest, because I mentioned having to do that for some students’ laptops. All they would’ve said otherwise was to be patient because The Process takes a while.
I've got a Fujitsu M2351A drive sitting behind me right now. It's a 19" rackmount hard drive from 1984, which weighs 132 pounds (60kg)! About 470MB of storage!
In comparison, your SCSI drive is tiny! Still a great little beast in any case.
You wouldn't happen to know how to interface to a discus brand 24"long rack mount, it has a 50pin and 20pin connector?
@@petevenuti7355 Sounds like you are referring to a similar drive I guess? It's an SMD interface, something very obscure and difficult to find information for. I *think* it's a 'standard' that CDC developed, if that helps.
I bought a similar looking 1 GB Maxtor HD back in 1990 for $4,000. Yep 4 grand for graphics work, let's just say it paid off. ;)
$4000 was a lot of money in 1990. It'd be a lot of money today! 💸
@@TechTimeTraveller- Indeed it was and still is. However, the type of graphics work I was doing paid so well that I could afford it. :) Think about it, a mere 1 gig for 4K. lol
my dad used one of those bell and howell apple II's at his job when i was little
It's SCSI. Of course it will still work!
Definitely louder than my Seagate 10k SCSI 72GB hard drives. Still kicking for over 20 years now.
Am I the only one getting mental jump-cuts to Microsoft BOB during the Kid Works 2 section? Increasingly rapid back and forth cuts with more and more bit-rot until both the windows critical error and unhappy mac sounds play at full volume then the sound of my own voice screaming into the abyss?
Errr, I just un-paused... Yeah... I think we're on the same page here... LOL!
my 1st 20mb hdd I had sounded the same and looked similar. But I forgot what company it was from! :-)
I had one extremely similar to that - once upon a time. I upgraded it with a Seagate ST410800N - same size, same weight, but 9GB of storage. I have no idea what happened to the old one.
49:50 $16.50 an hour back in 1996. That would of been crazy.
Your saying that is barley Minimum Wage? Where do you live? Minimum Wage here in Iowa is still $7.25
My old Quadra 950 came with a similarly sized 1GB drive. We've come a loooong way lol
What interface uses a 50 pin and a 20 pin ribbon cable? I have an old discus brand drive that's 24 in long and I don't know what the heck it connects to..
20:00 Nostalgia flashback overload! Bailey's Bookhouse was definitely one of my earliest memories on a computer. Almost utterly forgotten this existed. That little jingle violently torpedoed me straight back to the 90's out of thin air.
Love the background music - Lazy Bug by the Bladverk Band. Nice video as well.
This kind of thing is fascinating. I bought a G3 as not working a while ago and did manage to get it to boot up. I had real issues about whether it was appropriate to browse through someone else's stuff. I'd welcome any thoughts on this. I decided that if you don't want anything browsed, then you destroy it. It was really fascinating and a little sad and I'm glad I have a copy of the computer setup and the user data.
I have never delved into MAC but I do have a 4 - 3.5" disk SCSI tower on an ISA Adaptec card in my Legend QDI 440BX. Not sure of all the sizes but I do know 2 of them are 17GB. There is a lot of files including over 140 flash games. The drives are setup as erase protect because I kept customers files on the drives for the most part. I do have some software I created like over 8,000 karaoke files (.kar) for VanBasco karaoke, auto run disk ISO's, auto setup disks & a ton to popular graphics editing tools. I have not used the PC since Windows 7 was released. It is a Pentium slot 1, 768 ECC + the PC is fully maxed out & did beta test Windows 7 build 7100 successfully for 2 years. Both the PC & SCSI towers are painted silver hammered paint. I have found SCSI drives are the most durable ever.
29:24 That's the predecessor of the modern Ribbon interface. Now I know why it always felt like the UI for children's software. 😂
@31:39 I have some very strong memories attached to the Apple // version of Factory from elementary school... (Class of '03) It is 1992, I'm seated at one of the "Snow White Design Language" //e machines in the computer lab...
You said you would send people who Dislike one of your "special gifts". Perhaps you didn't realize that it's actually pronounced "special JIFts". It's a common mistake.
There was a better version of Dinosaur Adventure called 3-D Dinosaur Adventure. It had more activities, more movies, and the CD-ROM version even came with a 3D maze game called Save the Dinosaurs.
Yeah... You should image the drive to ensure no data is lost....
There a real interesting photograph from 1956 of one of IBM earliest 5Mb hard-disc-drives being loaded onto an aeroplane with a forklift!
I used to buy these up at car boot sales for pennies and just see if i could get them working on my. Amiga (A500 and gvp sidecar) in the late 80s early 90s, lol
Lol, I used to play Bailey's book House when I was a kid on my parent's P1 win 95 PC.
I had a black apple with 1 black floppy drive myself in 1980 and added a 3rd party full height drive in 1981.
This worked well following a vinny sunday stream cut short. It even ended on an edutainment section.
Looks like the drive you scored was from the South San Francisco Unified School District. Cool find!
10:15 at about a third of a gigabyte per drive, and a million megabytes in a terabyte Need about 300,000
Its hilarious to me that they made a sheet metal cover that wraps 90 degrees from the top to the back around a radius and still seals
You should def archive this stuff. any old software should be saved for historical purposes if nothing else.
"For a little fun let do a little math" WHaT iN ThE HeYeLL!?!? Imposter for sure😂
peek back in time. great vid.
5,500 is actually much closer to 3 tons than 2 and just so happens to be equivalent to one whole shit-ton
36:54 You're not gonna open those screenshots? Picture 1 and Picture 2.
Holy crap, that's heavy.... I have two 2TB M.2 drives in my newer laptop and 8TB of storage from my 2017 gaming laptop on 2 M.2 and one 2.5inch SSDs.... How many of those cinder block drives I'd need to match the storage (they'd never be anywhere near as fast as SSDs) would be impractical as I don't know if any period system or even modified modern systems would support so many drives..
Baileys House is still at least ten times better than Microsoft's Purble Place.
I played Bailey's Book House when I was young on a hand-me-down Mac!
When the noise from your hard drive drowns out your gameplay 😂
Hey I remember Creative Writer! There was also an illustrator version that I loved to play with as a kid. They were so weird, if you wanted to create a document or image, why use a program where you have to navigate a "building" instead of just opening a workspace?
I think the fart noises were a nice touch. I wish Word had more of those.
I love that we learn the backstory of the "Bertha" label in one of the text files.
That drive is very rare these days and don't often enter the collector market. Please tell me you'll keep it in one piece.
I had no idea it was anything special! But yes I won't do anything to damage or destroy it. Might even sell it if others really desire it... after I get the data offloaded somewhere. Why are they so desired? Just rarity?
@@TechTimeTraveller Legacy systems used by some businesses on machines that cannot be easily or affordably upgraded rely on these drives or their lower capacity (and even rarer) brethern.
Makes it wild to me there were in a high school of all places - one assumes that would haver been more true closer to the time these drives were around.
On the collectors end, because of that reliances some businesses have, they don't show up on the collector market often. The people looking to maintain these dinosaurs usually scoop them up quickly if the price doesn't break the bank.
I used to have a handful of them around from my days in IBM, ones that were going to be thrown anyways and I had repaired, and even clearly labelled as repaired/as is they sold relatively quickly. Made me wonder if I should ask more.
One specific use I know they had was in certain aviation radar terminals - re-engineering that kind of thing I can expect would be pricey!
By the way - the warning label is right in a sense - be very careful with the jumpers! Bending pins on those made the drives very testy rather quickly.
These things were basically bombproof but if they got bad inputs on the jumpers the controller would freak out and do weird things, causing a lot of strange malfunctions. It was an easy fix if you knew to look for it - but only if!
Hot air balloon game is the original flappy bird 😂
Your mac G4 kernel paniced it seems. Oops!
I think you need to rename that drive to Scsisaurus
They literally just copied the entire HDD and renamed the "System Folder" to "disabledSystem Folder" so the mac wouldn't see it as bootable.
Very professional backup
Maybe I should try renaming it?
Listen to that jet engine starting up. 😁
The word is thrifty, not cheap.🤭
15:18 Sounds like a jet engine spinning up.
is there desktop pata version of this
This Pleases Me.
Yes, Yes It Does.
5 Pico dudes
silly moose :)
20:25 Is that supposed to be a clown or grandma in her Muumuu after a couple glasses of wine for breakfast?
The year I was born
Tell ya what, if some gave me 330 mb of stuff to remember 27 years ago I certainly would not remember it
so this is apple?
Back then peripheral hardware was cross compatible with basically any other computer so long as you had an interface. You would see parts from apple 2gs inside PC's all of the time. Same thing in reverse. Then the PowerPC came out with RISC, and that's when apple and IBM/pc started their first incompatibility phase. That only lasted for about a decade, and after the ipod success apple poured the profits back into their own PC market, and this time they just used the same parts as everyone else. That went on until just recently, like two years ago I think.
One tidbit though, back then apple would install their own firmware and like MS before them if MacOS was not detected the hardware would slowly corrupt the Non-Mac OS. So if you were trying to build a new machine from a broken apple and a broken PC, you usually had to solder new off the shelf controllers/firmware roms on the hardware PCB to avoid that problem.
Recently apple abandoned intel/CISC and is going with SOC/RISC processors again. (I'm not sure who's building their processors these days) Either way, I don't fix apple computers, apple sues people who do that without going through their CRAP (Certified Repairman for Apple PC's) course.
In the last three years, I have successfully taken as many customers from apple as I possibly can. I put all the broken apple products in my crucible and smelt the PM's out of them. That's the only thing valuable in an Apple Product anyway. Final Cut is just childs version of video editing, and the only reason hollywood uses it, is because of the kickbacks so.....
I still have one of those marvelous Enlight PC cases. If you have any use for additional 5.25" drive rails for it, I have many extras so you're welcome to them. Did you know that Touch was the house brand of Supercom, a fine Canadian distributor that was gobbled up by Synnex? Ah, the good old days . . . Anyway, nice video but the noise was hard to endure!
A moment of disappointment - 39:16 )))
For non-freedom users, 6.8 freedom units are in this case about ~3kg.
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Ugh.. please stop with that blinking footer in the beginning
its obvious your not a everyday mac user. That whole system is fairly vanilla. The disabled system folder is what happens after you do a clean install without initializing the volume. The system suitcase, finder etc are usually put in the trash so you probably could re-bless it and get it booting again.
I remember having a scsi drive exactly the same, even sans case.
With getting it going, you know its scsi so like you could have booted the systems up and then plugged in the drive and mounted bertha. Although its never officially advised I have never had any issues hot plugging scsi drives and doing a scsi bus scan to get them mounted. Think you will also find that the drive has self-terminating connectors, as would the card/board so not really an issue with that, and with only a few devices on a short chain its not really an issue imo
Heya!
I love your content but I’m not sure if I’m such a fan of the constant sound of a spinning drive. I love the clunking of an old drive as much as the next person but the constant droning, not so much.
Just my 2 cents, keep up the good work 👌
Why is "you spin me right round baby, right round, like a record..." running round my head.