Jay, About 7 years ago I made 4 of this type of chair from an old article in popular woodworking. Your design and instructions are much better. But, too late for me. I wanted you to know that my chairs do not have that brace on the lower part of the legs and they are still strong and wobble free, so I think you will find yours to be the same. These chairs are very comfortable.
I've spent many, MANY, hours in one of these chairs watching my daughter's soccer games. It's super comfortable and way better than crappy fabric chairs that break all the time. It's been one of my favorite projects to date, and I've even sold a few to other soccer parents! I use my original template as my working template. If it mess them up, Jay gets more of my money! 🙃
Thank you Jay. This is a good reminder to remember to build some stuff, and relax while enjoying family and friends. Something about this video..you really seemed to enjoy this one!
Great video Jay. I bought the template a year ago with the thought of making a chair for me in my shop. It served me well in the evenings after working in the shop. Little did I know that my wife Michelle had other plans for my chair… she made it HER chair.
Jay, I’ve been watching you for a LONG time. I’m really happy for the growth you have had in your channel and skill!!! You’re meticulous and thoughtful but somehow still seem chill! I have had two girls since I have started watching you and it warms my heart to see you with your daughter in the videos. Btw, she is a cute cutey to the max! Thanks for the vids and vibes buddy. Take care!!!
Jay, I purchased your set of templates and have made four nesting chairs: one out of pine, one of plywood and two from hardwood. Everyone loves them and think that they are very interesting and comfortable. They are all well-loved and work great. I've literally spent countless hours reading in my nesting chair this past summer. Thanks for the plans and template!
@@TheRPhelps24 I did for all of my chairs. Like Jay said, it's the hardest part of the chair but it gives a nice accent/look to the chair. My only "problem" with all versions of the chair (pine, plywood and oak) is that the point between the two halves of the chair meet and hold all of the weight tends to crush in. So, if you stain the wood a dark color (or paint it!) it becomes very noticeable after a while. But, since the chair is in a stored/collapsed configuration most of the time it's not noticeable. Still, I love the chair!
@@rjmills126 Actually, it is very comfortable. I have literally spent six hours at a time on these chairs during the weekend, sitting outside to read. I've never felt uncomfortable. However, if you want to you could always get a couple of those outdoor seat cushions for your chair. I've made five of these chairs so far. Everyone loves them.
I bought your templates when they were first available. I made four chairs for me from Western Red Cedar and finished them with a teak oil and spar urethane blend. I made two more sets from White Oak, finished with an oil/wax, for my 2 kids after they saw mine. I'll never buy another set of plans or templates ever again. I'm approaching 70 years old and that was more work from my "hobby" than I wanted! lol (just kidding) But my gf is thinking about new chairs with hard maple for the legs and walnut for the slats. I told her to go to....the shop and make them herself. lol Edit: Thumbs up for the Ted Alexander hat! Ted's a good friend of mine and I miss his TH-cam channel!
Just bought the plans and will be hard at work in the shop when they get here. I can think of at least a dozen people who would be interested in these chairs locally. Thanks!!
That firepit is an amazing bit of kit! I agree with your wife about the bench, those chairs are so much better and the bonus is that it gives us another video to see you making a slab bench! Your Daughter is a cutie and it was lovely to see the connection between you both! She loves her Daddy!
I love my Breeo! and for some reason I feel much better with choosing them over others now that I know you have one too lol. Funny the trust we build in people we've never met but feel like I've known for years.
Jay - I've ordered a number of your plans for a few projects - the bunks for one that I converted to triples in an L shape. Great to see another that I'll add to the list. I made some similar with straight oak and fabric for seating surface. Great job.
This type of chair is exactly what I'm looking for. Great video. I'm not sure what's been up with the algorithm lately but this is the first video they've notified me of in months, and I've been a subscriber for years. Anyways, keep it up, awesome content as ever.
Im not the most hardcore sub but i saw you do the thing inside of a little tiny apt as a workshop and that was cool af. Seeing what you get up to now is equally as fun. Ill always be grateful for all the cool stuff youtube and its creators have exposed my brainhole to. All the love from michigan.
The Daddy-Daughter clips made my heart melt. What a little sweetheart she is! The fact you can grill meat on that fire pit edge scares the life out of me. That edge gets SO hot, have you considered fabricating a wooden surround to buffer little hands away from the fire pit edge? One touch of a tiny hand will produce 2nd or 3rd degree burns! Yikes! Oh yeah, the chairs are awesome!
You'll see a lot of these in built-in designs. This is done for both looks and also to prevent people from touching it. However, I don't have any wooden surrounds or deterrents from keeping my daughter from touching our hot kitchen stove either. We have rules in place and she understands boundaries. Education is the best prevention in my opinion. When the firepit is going we are all aware of the situation and continuously teaching her the dangers and why we stay away from the danger rather than just saying "don't touch!" And just like with the stove, we don't leave the fire unattended in the event that she tries to see what she can get away with.
That good sir is an excellent project and I'll be buying the paper templates. Also love the firepit but the best thing is the huge box it comes it. Everyone loves to hide in a cardboard box 😊
Great chair. Your outdoor family area will be great. I made 6 of your original bench and your swing for our fire pit. They work great. The chair in this video is also great. Just doesn’t work for us at our age unless you can design a rocket assist to get us out. 😳. I really enjoy your videos and plans. Very practical.
Great video and breakdown with different options! I love how these look in walnut! I've been considering some "modern" adirondak chairs, but I'm kind of leaning toward these. We have a fire pit area and I think they would be great out there by it.
This was a great video And perfect timing because I am in the market for an awesome fire pit! The daddy daughter clips really brightened my day. I'm so happy for you. Thanks for the video, thanks for being you.
What a beautiful girl! 🌟 Thanks for sharing such personal moments, Jay - it makes you feel like a nice live person, who I believe you are, not like just some dude just selling his crap on TH-cam.
These are a nice chair, I made one a long time ago and it was a lot more comfortable than I expected :) Yours look WAY better than mine did tho :P I always get a giggle when lads with jointers and thickness planers say that milling takes a long time........ I work entirely by hand; your milling is childsplay by comparison :P These turned out really nice lad, I gotta make myself another one as the one I made all those years ago is long gone..... Thanks Jay :)
I made two of these already and just got more sapele yesterday to build 2 more and a bench as well. People are always very impressed by these chairs but you made them so easy to build with the templates! I just got a Shaper Origin and I am trying to decided if I want to use the MDF templates or buy the SVG files and cut them out with the Origin.
13:53 I really thought for a second that the dog was standing on the edge of the pit to warm up with the fire going. Chairs look great! What a fun outdoor space.
Great video. I really need to make some of these chairs. I love my Adirondack chairs that stay out on my covered deck, but these might be a great option for available extra seating.
i ordered your cnc files before and use that brace that was removed... i am curios to see your update on that i use these at the beach and the sinking in sand can add some torque to the legs on the back of the seat element... looking forward to your outlook on this....btw everybody loves that chair!
Hi Jay, I made three of these, To from Oak, one from Cedar. I only made two modifications, I added a cutout on the top slat to serve as a handle, second I added brass feet fitted to the bottom of the feet. I think these are great, just wanted to let you know the mods I made, and that I really like these!
In your earlier builds, you used 2 screws at each end of the slats. Have you noticed any racking related to this reduction? Additionally, do you have a paper template option for the kid-size chair?
Great project for next summer. But your daughter is really the star of this video. I have a 4 year old and its not easy to have those ofline moments like you said. Enjoy it as much as you can cause they grow really fast. By the way love your channel. I have to congratulate you on how you've grown your skills over the years. It's really encouraging. Thank You Jay.
Jay, you are the coolest. I love your daughter. You live in the state I graduated high school from. Go Callaway in Jackson. And I think your wife serves in uniform.
Would love to see a matching end table design to go along with these. Planning on buying your CNC files and making a set myself. Probably also buy one of the Breeo's (any coupon codes available?) Thanks for the video and design.
Just received the MDF templates, arrived in the UK only days after ordering, thanks, any update on the captured slat? should I or shouldn't I? Great channel.
with your fire pit...please let them know on the next model to extend the actual grate for the grill...looks like it doesn't completely cover as it is there for security and strength closer to the post....make the metal a tad bit thicker and it can go over the flames.....not trying to bust balls...first time seeing this thing...but love your work
What size screws are you using? Also do you ad 1 or 2 per slat? Bought the hard templates from you and they look awesome Just wanted to get my plans together
How about designing a fire pit rotisserie. This would be a large plate you stand on which slowly rotates to alternately warm your buns from time to time. Heck you could build in handles to hold on to and a place for your adult beverage.
Jay I bought these templates shortly after this video came out but never got around to making them. Did you end up adding the cross slat of the seat piece or was it unnecessary?
Jay, Did you say you modified your previous files? I originally bought your files in 2019 with the idea I would make them on my CNC. But, never got around to making them yet. Still plan on doing this have you updated the vectors for the CNC or are my files still the most current version?
Jay, I bought your MDF template and after unboxing them, I realize the chairs will be quite short, or low to the ground. Can the plans be modified to make the chairs taller? I appreciate your videos and help. Thank you.
Ya you can add an Inch or two to each leg. Just trace the entire template, shift it down an inch and trace the extra. Bandsaw the waste, stick the template on and pattern route all but the bottom. Shift the template down and finish the routing.
What is the seat height? I can find lots of videos and plans but none say the chair height and I want to build some to sit at a table that’s 30 inches tall
I built a half lap design similar to this years ago with the frame cut from 2x8 cedar. While they are still in service and I have planted my 200# butt in them more than once I don't trust them for loads much over 200# because I feel the half lap is a weak point.
I was going to ask the same question. Glad I scrolled through the comments and found it so I don't look like a idiot asking a question that was already answered.
So each piece of wood was only big enough for one side piece (with a lot of waste). Would it have been possible to glue the wood together then cut nested side pieces? Then you can utilize the wasted wood better. And since you are gluing edge grain it should be plenty strong. Or am I missing something? Of course the grain pattern will be different. Is that it?
Jay, i just purchased your MDF templates, love the design. In this video you are using 1 screw on each side of the slat. On your website where you purchase the templates, that shows 2 screws per each side of the slat. Do you think 1 screw will be adequate? Or 2?
I think one screw is fine. Considering the joint is somewhat mechanical restricting movement in and twisting and then is secured with glue and then pinned with a screw...I don't think there will be an issue with using one screw per slat.
I noticed that you use one screw in each end of the slats vs two in your older video. Did you find out that one was strong enough or was it easier with one? Or mixture of both? I plan on making several sets of these and I just was wondering. I'm a big guy so your design will definitely be put to the test! I'll keep you posted when I get the templates, which shipped amazingly fast btw!!
My daughter is hosting her entire volleyball team and their families at our house Sunday....I wonder how long it would take to make a dozen of these. lol
Have you tested or considered max weight for these? I'm a bigger guy, 6'8" and 240#, I've messed with other chair builds and outside of the beefier build of an Adirondack and not been comfortable with the ability to support higher weights. In particular there is going to be a lot of stress on the cross members where the seat goes through the back.
The frame pieces are the only concern as they will take the worst of the forces. Slats will better disperse the weight amongst many slats. For that reason it's best to avoid any defects and knots in the frame pieces so they are as solid as possible. A solid hardwood frame will be stronger than a solid soft wood frame like pine. A solid soft wood frame will be stronger than a soft wood plywood, due to half of the plys going in the weak direction. We put over 400 pounds on a pine plywood version to test it with no signs of cracking or failure.
@@JayBates Maybe the concern is that 300 plus pound people don't sit down very gently and people are assuming you placed the weight a little at a time and gently.
I have made several of these using Jay's template. Some out of cedar. Some pine and a couple out of Royal Trim Board (PVC board) which is manufactured for looks and not strength. But man is it light and completely waterproof. It also paints well. Anyhow they all held up to me with no problem 6' 2" at 270 pounds. One CON for the PVC board is that it creates an awful mess. So much so that I will not make anything out of it again but will use it for exterior trim always.
I think I would feel better about the longevity of the chair woth a bottom brace in. The slight racking of a person sitting on it will put quite a bit of strain on the one screw and glue joint in the slats on the other end. I've had single screwed slats come loose over years of use on far more rigid designs than this.
@@JayBates Indeed, a harmless experiment, at most you'll have to tighten down the slats a bit. My furniture was exposed to the elements for most of the year, under cover they'll have an easier time probably.
Jay, About 7 years ago I made 4 of this type of chair from an old article in popular woodworking. Your design and instructions are much better. But, too late for me. I wanted you to know that my chairs do not have that brace on the lower part of the legs and they are still strong and wobble free, so I think you will find yours to be the same. These chairs are very comfortable.
Thank you very much for the feedback on the lower brace.
I don't know why your videos have not shown up in my feed, but thank God, you showed up. As always a good video and good information. Thank you.
This channel is the bomb. Honest reviews. Real world safety tips. Free plans. Beautiful family.
I've spent many, MANY, hours in one of these chairs watching my daughter's soccer games. It's super comfortable and way better than crappy fabric chairs that break all the time. It's been one of my favorite projects to date, and I've even sold a few to other soccer parents!
I use my original template as my working template. If it mess them up, Jay gets more of my money! 🙃
Thanks for the feedback!
How much do you sell them for?
@@BrettsWoodshop $200
Thank you Jay. This is a good reminder to remember to build some stuff, and relax while enjoying family and friends.
Something about this video..you really seemed to enjoy this one!
Great video Jay. I bought the template a year ago with the thought of making a chair for me in my shop. It served me well in the evenings after working in the shop.
Little did I know that my wife Michelle had other plans for my chair… she made it HER chair.
Jay, I’ve been watching you for a LONG time. I’m really happy for the growth you have had in your channel and skill!!! You’re meticulous and thoughtful but somehow still seem chill! I have had two girls since I have started watching you and it warms my heart to see you with your daughter in the videos. Btw, she is a cute cutey to the max! Thanks for the vids and vibes buddy. Take care!!!
I appreciate that! Thank you very much :)
Came here to say the same! She’s a cutie! Definitely looking into the fire pit. My kids would love to escape the smoke!
You're so thorough, Jay! The chairs look great, and it was great to see you with your daughter!!🥰 Can't wait to see the slab bench!
This was a great video Jay! Really enjoyed watching you interact with your family as well. Thanks for sharing
Jay, I purchased your set of templates and have made four nesting chairs: one out of pine, one of plywood and two from hardwood. Everyone loves them and think that they are very interesting and comfortable. They are all well-loved and work great. I've literally spent countless hours reading in my nesting chair this past summer. Thanks for the plans and template!
Thank you for the feedback!
Did you incorporate the cross brace in the bottom piece?
@@TheRPhelps24 I did for all of my chairs. Like Jay said, it's the hardest part of the chair but it gives a nice accent/look to the chair. My only "problem" with all versions of the chair (pine, plywood and oak) is that the point between the two halves of the chair meet and hold all of the weight tends to crush in. So, if you stain the wood a dark color (or paint it!) it becomes very noticeable after a while. But, since the chair is in a stored/collapsed configuration most of the time it's not noticeable. Still, I love the chair!
It looks like the bottom would be uncomfortable. Is it really that comfy?
@@rjmills126 Actually, it is very comfortable. I have literally spent six hours at a time on these chairs during the weekend, sitting outside to read. I've never felt uncomfortable.
However, if you want to you could always get a couple of those outdoor seat cushions for your chair.
I've made five of these chairs so far. Everyone loves them.
I bought your templates when they were first available. I made four chairs for me from Western Red Cedar and finished them with a teak oil and spar urethane blend. I made two more sets from White Oak, finished with an oil/wax, for my 2 kids after they saw mine. I'll never buy another set of plans or templates ever again. I'm approaching 70 years old and that was more work from my "hobby" than I wanted! lol (just kidding) But my gf is thinking about new chairs with hard maple for the legs and walnut for the slats. I told her to go to....the shop and make them herself. lol
Edit: Thumbs up for the Ted Alexander hat! Ted's a good friend of mine and I miss his TH-cam channel!
Spot on about sitting by the fire pit. Kids making smores and adults enjoying the same with a cocktail or beer.
Just bought the plans and will be hard at work in the shop when they get here. I can think of at least a dozen people who would be interested in these chairs locally. Thanks!!
That firepit is an amazing bit of kit! I agree with your wife about the bench, those chairs are so much better and the bonus is that it gives us another video to see you making a slab bench! Your Daughter is a cutie and it was lovely to see the connection between you both! She loves her Daddy!
I love my Breeo! and for some reason I feel much better with choosing them over others now that I know you have one too lol. Funny the trust we build in people we've never met but feel like I've known for years.
Jay - I've ordered a number of your plans for a few projects - the bunks for one that I converted to triples in an L shape. Great to see another that I'll add to the list. I made some similar with straight oak and fabric for seating surface. Great job.
This type of chair is exactly what I'm looking for. Great video. I'm not sure what's been up with the algorithm lately but this is the first video they've notified me of in months, and I've been a subscriber for years. Anyways, keep it up, awesome content as ever.
I can’t recommend this project enough! Anyone can do it, and the chairs are great. Take his recommendation on good router bits.
Those chairs are awesome. Your little girl is absolutely adorable! I am so jealous!
Great video thank you
Family time is always a great thing
Happy spouse, happy house. Great video - really surprised that it'd hold that much weight!
Great chairs. Awesome Dadness.
Thanks for the upload
Great project. Also great video as always
Im not the most hardcore sub but i saw you do the thing inside of a little tiny apt as a workshop and that was cool af. Seeing what you get up to now is equally as fun. Ill always be grateful for all the cool stuff youtube and its creators have exposed my brainhole to. All the love from michigan.
The Daddy-Daughter clips made my heart melt. What a little sweetheart she is! The fact you can grill meat on that fire pit edge scares the life out of me. That edge gets SO hot, have you considered fabricating a wooden surround to buffer little hands away from the fire pit edge? One touch of a tiny hand will produce 2nd or 3rd degree burns! Yikes! Oh yeah, the chairs are awesome!
You'll see a lot of these in built-in designs. This is done for both looks and also to prevent people from touching it. However, I don't have any wooden surrounds or deterrents from keeping my daughter from touching our hot kitchen stove either. We have rules in place and she understands boundaries. Education is the best prevention in my opinion. When the firepit is going we are all aware of the situation and continuously teaching her the dangers and why we stay away from the danger rather than just saying "don't touch!" And just like with the stove, we don't leave the fire unattended in the event that she tries to see what she can get away with.
I make a ton of really great Adirondack chairs but am always asked to make a folding version. This is a perfect alternative for my other chairs!!
Looks like a fun project
Love these chairs and the fire pit looks amazing! Great family sir!
Those are beautiful Sir.
That good sir is an excellent project and I'll be buying the paper templates. Also love the firepit but the best thing is the huge box it comes it. Everyone loves to hide in a cardboard box 😊
Great project. And the Breeo firepit looks VERY interesting. But your daughter steals the show, Jay. :)
Great chair. Your outdoor family area will be great. I made 6 of your original bench and your swing for our fire pit. They work great. The chair in this video is also great. Just doesn’t work for us at our age unless you can design a rocket assist to get us out. 😳. I really enjoy your videos and plans. Very practical.
Great video and breakdown with different options! I love how these look in walnut! I've been considering some "modern" adirondak chairs, but I'm kind of leaning toward these. We have a fire pit area and I think they would be great out there by it.
This was a great video And perfect timing because I am in the market for an awesome fire pit!
The daddy daughter clips really brightened my day. I'm so happy for you. Thanks for the video, thanks for being you.
What a beautiful girl! 🌟
Thanks for sharing such personal moments, Jay - it makes you feel like a nice live person, who I believe you are, not like just some dude just selling his crap on TH-cam.
Another awesome video!! Thank you!!
I think I’ll make a bunch of these next summer for next year’s Christmas gifts.
You’re gonna love the Breeo!
One month in. We do love it :) Has become a neighbor gathering area. Fun times indeed.
These are a nice chair, I made one a long time ago and it was a lot more comfortable than I expected :) Yours look WAY better than mine did tho :P
I always get a giggle when lads with jointers and thickness planers say that milling takes a long time........ I work entirely by hand; your milling is childsplay by comparison :P
These turned out really nice lad, I gotta make myself another one as the one I made all those years ago is long gone.....
Thanks Jay :)
Wife "vetoed" your idea..
...we've all been there! Great vid!
If it’s got to go, I see a nice “nesting bench” in place of old reliable. Nice work Jay. 😊
I made two of these already and just got more sapele yesterday to build 2 more and a bench as well. People are always very impressed by these chairs but you made them so easy to build with the templates! I just got a Shaper Origin and I am trying to decided if I want to use the MDF templates or buy the SVG files and cut them out with the Origin.
Great looking chairs man!
Just found your channel. Very well done videos. Nice tight editing. Killer design for the chairs and I have major shop envy!
13:53 I really thought for a second that the dog was standing on the edge of the pit to warm up with the fire going. Chairs look great! What a fun outdoor space.
Number 5: The box is a lot of fun to play in!
Great video. I really need to make some of these chairs. I love my Adirondack chairs that stay out on my covered deck, but these might be a great option for available extra seating.
i ordered your cnc files before and use that brace that was removed... i am curios to see your update on that i use these at the beach and the sinking in sand can add some torque to the legs on the back of the seat element... looking forward to your outlook on this....btw everybody loves that chair!
Super chair design. And your daughter is a peach. What a cutie-pie. I wondered if the holes were for a stretcher.
Very cute family ! Keep it up bro
Hi Jay, I made three of these, To from Oak, one from Cedar. I only made two modifications, I added a cutout on the top slat to serve as a handle, second I added brass feet fitted to the bottom of the feet. I think these are great, just wanted to let you know the mods I made, and that I really like these!
Nice! I used a dowel and a matching forstner bit for my stiffener. Much easier.
In your earlier builds, you used 2 screws at each end of the slats. Have you noticed any racking related to this reduction?
Additionally, do you have a paper template option for the kid-size chair?
A bench or love seat built in the same style as the chairs would really cool.
Many ways to describe the chair and plans but I think awesome pretty well covers it
18:08 "Bum's on seats R&D" 🤔 I could live with that 😄👍👍👍👍
Absolutely. :)
Awesome video
Great project for next summer. But your daughter is really the star of this video. I have a 4 year old and its not easy to have those ofline moments like you said. Enjoy it as much as you can cause they grow really fast. By the way love your channel. I have to congratulate you on how you've grown your skills over the years. It's really encouraging. Thank You Jay.
Jay, you are the coolest. I love your daughter. You live in the state I graduated high school from. Go Callaway in Jackson. And I think your wife serves in uniform.
Would love to see a matching end table design to go along with these. Planning on buying your CNC files and making a set myself. Probably also buy one of the Breeo's (any coupon codes available?) Thanks for the video and design.
Those look great, Jay. The template options are a great idea, too. Will you let us know the results of your test about those braces? Take care.
Bill
Yes
LOVE.
Hi jay,
Great job.
About the holes and the slat, maybe you can unify 2 chairs with a big slat to make a bench ?
Cheers from France.
Take care
Just received the MDF templates, arrived in the UK only days after ordering, thanks, any update on the captured slat? should I or shouldn't I? Great channel.
I won't be adding the captured slat on any future builds of these.
Nice sharing👍🥰❤️❤️❤️
Good Job bro
This gone work if i'm going to do it out of pine wood or its too weak??? Sory for my english
Dude! Love where you placed the Lavalier mic
Hi Jay. Nice project. You missed the most important part of the Breeo - the box :)
with your fire pit...please let them know on the next model to extend the actual grate for the grill...looks like it doesn't completely cover as it is there for security and strength closer to the post....make the metal a tad bit thicker and it can go over the flames.....not trying to bust balls...first time seeing this thing...but love your work
What size screws are you using? Also do you ad 1 or 2 per slat?
Bought the hard templates from you and they look awesome
Just wanted to get my plans together
Looking fit boss
Very nice
just bought the plans. I still see the cross braces. Does that mean you've decided that they're structurally necessary?
I don't think they are necessary. Left them in for those who want it.
How about designing a fire pit rotisserie. This would be a large plate you stand on which slowly rotates to alternately warm your buns from time to time. Heck you could build in handles to hold on to and a place for your adult beverage.
Сурово выглядит. Как будто бы немецкий дизайн.
Make a nesting bench to match chairs
Click play, then immediately click thumbs up, then watch the video. You already know you'll like it. May as well do it at the beginning.
Jay I bought these templates shortly after this video came out but never got around to making them. Did you end up adding the cross slat of the seat piece or was it unnecessary?
Unnecessary.
2:12 7 or 8 2x4s??? Do you think I'm made of money, Jay??
Look, just cash out 3 or 4 bitcoin and pickup a 2x4. ok?
Where can I buy the plans. The kmtools site that you have link does not allow to gpay.
Jay, Did you say you modified your previous files? I originally bought your files in 2019 with the idea I would make them on my CNC. But, never got around to making them yet. Still plan on doing this have you updated the vectors for the CNC or are my files still the most current version?
Hey Jay, I have both templates but don't seem to have the plans that come with them. Anyway to get them emailed to me?
Jay, I bought your MDF template and after unboxing them, I realize the chairs will be quite short, or low to the ground. Can the plans be modified to make the chairs taller? I appreciate your videos and help. Thank you.
Ya you can add an Inch or two to each leg. Just trace the entire template, shift it down an inch and trace the extra. Bandsaw the waste, stick the template on and pattern route all but the bottom. Shift the template down and finish the routing.
@@JayBates, Thank you!
What is the seat height? I can find lots of videos and plans but none say the chair height and I want to build some to sit at a table that’s 30 inches tall
can the cross brace (the one you left out to test) be a half-lap joint ? that would keep the language of design the same with the slats.. thoughts?
Yes. However, a half lap joint would be a reduction in frame piece width. I honestly don't think it's necessary at all.
I built a half lap design similar to this years ago with the frame cut from 2x8 cedar. While they are still in service and I have planted my 200# butt in them more than once I don't trust them for loads much over 200# because I feel the half lap is a weak point.
Could it be modified to become a table?
If you choose to add the lower leg brace, seems like you could us a domino to avoid a slot cut potentialy weakening the lower leg.
Thoughts on using cedar?
I don't see any issues. I had 400 pounds on a line plywood version. Solid cedar should be stronger than pine plywood.
I was going to ask the same question. Glad I scrolled through the comments and found it so I don't look like a idiot asking a question that was already answered.
I guess the length of the slats are what ever you choose, but what are yours? Did not pick that up in the video.
19.5"
How many kilograms is such a bench designed for? Thanks.
So each piece of wood was only big enough for one side piece (with a lot of waste). Would it have been possible to glue the wood together then cut nested side pieces? Then you can utilize the wasted wood better. And since you are gluing edge grain it should be plenty strong. Or am I missing something? Of course the grain pattern will be different. Is that it?
Absolutely. Gluing a panel will be the best use of material. The offcuts here went into the cutting board stack.
Jay, i just purchased your MDF templates, love the design. In this video you are using 1 screw on each side of the slat. On your website where you purchase the templates, that shows 2 screws per each side of the slat. Do you think 1 screw will be adequate? Or 2?
I think one screw is fine. Considering the joint is somewhat mechanical restricting movement in and twisting and then is secured with glue and then pinned with a screw...I don't think there will be an issue with using one screw per slat.
I noticed that you use one screw in each end of the slats vs two in your older video. Did you find out that one was strong enough or was it easier with one? Or mixture of both? I plan on making several sets of these and I just was wondering. I'm a big guy so your design will definitely be put to the test! I'll keep you posted when I get the templates, which shipped amazingly fast btw!!
I think 2 was overkill originally.
@@JayBates thank you! I appreciate the reply
My daughter is hosting her entire volleyball team and their families at our house Sunday....I wonder how long it would take to make a dozen of these. lol
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Have you tested or considered max weight for these? I'm a bigger guy, 6'8" and 240#, I've messed with other chair builds and outside of the beefier build of an Adirondack and not been comfortable with the ability to support higher weights. In particular there is going to be a lot of stress on the cross members where the seat goes through the back.
Also interested in this as well for someone pushing 280lbs.
The frame pieces are the only concern as they will take the worst of the forces. Slats will better disperse the weight amongst many slats. For that reason it's best to avoid any defects and knots in the frame pieces so they are as solid as possible. A solid hardwood frame will be stronger than a solid soft wood frame like pine. A solid soft wood frame will be stronger than a soft wood plywood, due to half of the plys going in the weak direction. We put over 400 pounds on a pine plywood version to test it with no signs of cracking or failure.
@@JayBates Maybe the concern is that 300 plus pound people don't sit down very gently and people are assuming you placed the weight a little at a time and gently.
I have made several of these using Jay's template. Some out of cedar. Some pine and a couple out of Royal Trim Board (PVC board) which is manufactured for looks and not strength. But man is it light and completely waterproof. It also paints well. Anyhow they all held up to me with no problem 6' 2" at 270 pounds. One CON for the PVC board is that it creates an awful mess. So much so that I will not make anything out of it again but will use it for exterior trim always.
I think I would feel better about the longevity of the chair woth a bottom brace in. The slight racking of a person sitting on it will put quite a bit of strain on the one screw and glue joint in the slats on the other end. I've had single screwed slats come loose over years of use on far more rigid designs than this.
I disagree. I'm confident in their strength and construction. Time will tell :)
@@JayBates Indeed, a harmless experiment, at most you'll have to tighten down the slats a bit. My furniture was exposed to the elements for most of the year, under cover they'll have an easier time probably.
"why is there always something large, diesel-powered driving by while I am trying to record" sorry, that was funny, I was on the ground
How much do you sell completed chairs for? I’m interested in buying the templates to make the chairs, but have no idea how much to sell em for.🤷🏽♂️
I've never sold any. All of the chairs I've made were gifts.
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