excellent video, glad you stressed learning on an easy easy hill and then progress upward ... see way to many people trying to do it on blues and black . if can't do it on the easy easy hill ... i don't get it.
Part of me agrees with you, but part of me doesn't. I often feel like learning on a nice groomed blue is often best for me. The reason? Increased forces. There is simply more information available, and what information exists is stronger. The increased feedback makes it easier to know what I'm doing right and wrong, and the speed helps keep a good flow. Also, at my home resort, there are less beginners and less crowds than on the crowded green. I absolutely agree that one should not exceed their ability or set themselves up for failure. That being said, sometimes learning requires leaving your comfort zone. Having (appropriate) confidence in your skills like speed control and recovery abilities yields the realization that comfort and control do not overlap perfectly. Feedback is so valuable. Even just once so I understand the sensations I am feeling for. Sometimes on greens, certain sensations got lost in noise until they were stronger on blues. Developing that awareness meant even more success on greens because I was able to more easily identify the sensations of interest. Everyone has a different skill set, mindset, and preferences. Skiing is wonderfully complex and it's neat to hear others opinions :) Thanks for the reminder to ensure I can always fail safe :)
thanks,,, very good analogy the bike,, plus breaking the rear wheel i would say to -- skid -- like skiing.. this is crucial to slow down a bit.. i.ve seen injuries in competition for curving too fast.. skiddind at the right moment is wiser.. the ideal is a mixture of curving and skidding when necessary.. and for really short turns skidding is much more important.. with as much curving as possible of course.. but skidding anyway.. and you can control better a sudden change of direction.. you can avoid collision much better.. thats why in crowded slopes most unconsciously skid.. it is very dangerous to just curve there.
Curving is for control at higher speeds you say.. yes.. in a way.. but is not control of direction... if you have to suddenly change direction you cant.. need to skid.. or crash.. since I dont trust any course or slope .. people can crush on you.. I always leave weight in my inriger uphill ski just in case I need to suddenly skid to change direction..in competition i curve a lot more.. but use skidding very wisely to control speed.. too many go out of course for not doing it .. the trick is a mixture of both techniques
Great video. After watching it, I've realized I'm mainly doing the skidding turns. I did try to do a little bit of carving towards the end, and next year I will be working on that. I actually hope to take an advanced lesson to help me with that. Speed isn't my goal; turning properly is. The biggest problem I ran into was my quads were really killing me. Even on the 2nd day. I can only assume it was from all the pressure from the skidding. Any advice on how to avoid that? I really wound up stopping early each day just because my legs were giving out.
1 or 2 hours of training on carving is very hard on the quads lower back and knees. To ski longer take a less agressive ski type Longer (ski length) and turn less.
@@gairnmclennan5876 so longer skis? I actually choose shorter skis for better control. Though my control now is pretty good, so you think I should lengthen the skis at this point to help?
It take confidence to carry speed. To build confidence build your turn shape. skidded turns with deliberate rounded shapes begin to integrate carving to the skill blend. Turn shape increases sensitivity to ski snow interaction, confidence builds into carving when compaction under the ski converts the snow into a more slippery exclusion zone. It's all about manipulating snow chemistry, temperture/ pressure gradients.
@@gairnmclennan5876 Bad skiing causes pain. Good skiing is fun, exciting and the pain only come from having well fitting boots. Some pain will occure but only when standing still or walking through the lodge with your boots on. On slope while skiing little pain is felt as skis, snow and your body work together to make beautiful carved tracks the signature of good skiing.
Thanks for that - I had originally used 'Edith Piaf - Non, Je ne regrette rien' for that part of the video but had to mute it on youtube because of copyright. Sorry about that!
At about 7:50 in the video, there is talk of sidecut. This is presented backwards. A higher number turn radius will make longer turns. SL skis are about 12M radius. SG skis are about 35M radius.
Thanks for watching and commenting John! The video states: more sidecut = lower turn radius. Lower turn radius = quicker to carve. Higher radius = bigger carve turns (i.e longer turns) - we are agreeing with each other right?
Curving is less tiring than skidding.. but skidding is better for grip specially on ice and is safer all around cause you avoid collisions changing direction faster and easier than curving
One of the best tutorials on carving that I have seen.
Great video. I've seen a lot of ski technique videos and yours is the only one that compares skidded and carved turns this clearly.
So its basically giant slalom
OMG the bicycle analogy have me that light bulb! TY!
Great! thanks for the comment
One of the most informative videos I have seen on carving! Thanks
excellent video, glad you stressed learning on an easy easy hill and then progress upward ... see way to many people trying to do it on blues and black . if can't do it on the easy easy hill ... i don't get it.
@@JB91710 yeh, especially if you have no idea how to do it.
Part of me agrees with you, but part of me doesn't. I often feel like learning on a nice groomed blue is often best for me. The reason? Increased forces. There is simply more information available, and what information exists is stronger. The increased feedback makes it easier to know what I'm doing right and wrong, and the speed helps keep a good flow. Also, at my home resort, there are less beginners and less crowds than on the crowded green.
I absolutely agree that one should not exceed their ability or set themselves up for failure. That being said, sometimes learning requires leaving your comfort zone. Having (appropriate) confidence in your skills like speed control and recovery abilities yields the realization that comfort and control do not overlap perfectly.
Feedback is so valuable. Even just once so I understand the sensations I am feeling for. Sometimes on greens, certain sensations got lost in noise until they were stronger on blues. Developing that awareness meant even more success on greens because I was able to more easily identify the sensations of interest.
Everyone has a different skill set, mindset, and preferences. Skiing is wonderfully complex and it's neat to hear others opinions :)
Thanks for the reminder to ensure I can always fail safe :)
I have watched so many videos, this is the best about carving
Thanks so much! George
Appreciate the topic as I work on my style and approach while maintaining technical aspects of staying in control and centered/balanced.
thanks,,, very good analogy the bike,, plus breaking the rear wheel i would say to -- skid -- like skiing.. this is crucial to slow down a bit.. i.ve seen injuries in competition for curving too fast.. skiddind at the right moment is wiser.. the ideal is a mixture of curving and skidding when necessary.. and for really short turns skidding is much more important.. with as much curving as possible of course.. but skidding anyway.. and you can control better a sudden change of direction.. you can avoid collision much better.. thats why in crowded slopes most unconsciously skid.. it is very dangerous to just curve there.
Curving is for control at higher speeds you say.. yes.. in a way.. but is not control of direction... if you have to suddenly change direction you cant.. need to skid.. or crash.. since I dont trust any course or slope .. people can crush on you.. I always leave weight in my inriger uphill ski just in case I need to suddenly skid to change direction..in competition i curve a lot more.. but use skidding very wisely to control speed.. too many go out of course for not doing it .. the trick is a mixture of both techniques
That helped a lot thanks
Great video.
After watching it, I've realized I'm mainly doing the skidding turns. I did try to do a little bit of carving towards the end, and next year I will be working on that. I actually hope to take an advanced lesson to help me with that. Speed isn't my goal; turning properly is.
The biggest problem I ran into was my quads were really killing me. Even on the 2nd day. I can only assume it was from all the pressure from the skidding.
Any advice on how to avoid that? I really wound up stopping early each day just because my legs were giving out.
Quads do all the work when you are sitting back a little. Go for the advanced lesson, skiing gets more fun with more technique! Enjoy!
1 or 2 hours of training on carving is very hard on the quads lower back and knees. To ski longer take a less agressive ski type Longer (ski length) and turn less.
@@gairnmclennan5876 so longer skis? I actually choose shorter skis for better control. Though my control now is pretty good, so you think I should lengthen the skis at this point to help?
It take confidence to carry speed. To build confidence build your turn shape. skidded turns with deliberate rounded shapes begin to integrate carving to the skill blend. Turn shape increases sensitivity to ski snow interaction, confidence builds into carving when compaction under the ski converts the snow into a more slippery exclusion zone. It's all about manipulating snow chemistry, temperture/ pressure gradients.
@@gairnmclennan5876 Bad skiing causes pain. Good skiing is fun, exciting and the pain only come from having well fitting boots. Some pain will occure but only when standing still or walking through the lodge with your boots on. On slope while skiing little pain is felt as skis, snow and your body work together to make beautiful carved tracks the signature of good skiing.
Another quality video breaking down the techniques into understandable information.
Thanks Nigel, hope it helps 🙏🏻🙌🏼
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Thanks for this tips. There is no sound from minute 7:17 to 7:32.
Thanks for that - I had originally used 'Edith Piaf - Non, Je ne regrette rien' for that part of the video but had to mute it on youtube because of copyright. Sorry about that!
At about 7:50 in the video, there is talk of sidecut. This is presented backwards. A higher number turn radius will make longer turns. SL skis are about 12M radius. SG skis are about 35M radius.
Thanks for watching and commenting John! The video states: more sidecut = lower turn radius. Lower turn radius = quicker to carve. Higher radius = bigger carve turns (i.e longer turns) - we are agreeing with each other right?
Brill 👍🏻
Audio cuts out 😕
thanks for reporting this - which part? is it during the black and white section ear the end?
@@AvoriazskischoolYes it cuts out from 07:17 for about 15 seconds. Great video btw.
Curving is less tiring than skidding.. but skidding is better for grip specially on ice and is safer all around cause you avoid collisions changing direction faster and easier than curving
You are not really a ski instructor, are you?
@@JB91710 look, there is stupid again, waiting to be banned from another website.