Roger LaFond method of canne, baton and french boxing
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 15 ต.ค. 2024
- www.savate.tk - BLOG. Fencing and savate use the same tactics and maybe also same principles.
Boxe francaise, Canne de combat and Baton are disciplines of savate.
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LaFond was introduced to public in documentary Deadly weapons.
absolutey amazing! These Savate Masters were ahead of their time in the world of martial arts, and I really think that if they would have invaded the Karate tournys of the 60's and 70's, they would have made a name for themselves. This is truly a masterpiece film regarding French combat styles. I've studied Asian styles for 30 plus years and I'm just now learning how to Fence. I wish I would have taken Fencing and Savate years ago, especially from these Masters. My family history is from France.
You need to re-think your thoughts! Take a look at Muay Thai....they would absolutely destroy a Savateur or karateka!
@@billslayer1175 I don't need to re-think anything. I know what Muay Thai is and yes it's a brutal style. I've been involved in martial arts for 50 years and Muay Thai is well respected, but today I watched a video where a full contact kickboxing match from the early 1980's and the Muay Thai fighter got his hat handed to him by the kickboxer. Every fight is different, and if someone get's hit by a Muay Thai fighter they can definitely do some damage. By the way, I've been to Thailand and I have a pair of Muay Thai gloves that were given to me in 1979. Not everyone has a closed mind as you think and not everyone is naive as well.
@@tramey1959 You're truly amazing. Also....loved your tv show "Kung Fu".
Bill Slayer yeah. Whatever dude.
@@billslayer1175 LOl ^^A man like Alexis "Bvrboza" Nicolas who's a world champion in Boxe Française is going to k1 and he's already victimising many people. He's already sparring with huge champ of the k1 ,and they all say the man is nasty. While them they can't do NOTHING to him when it come to boxe française...Sp how come if Muay tha i that crazy ? Well how come smeone comingfrom bowe frnaçaise can easily train and lear MuayThai and K1 ,while the opposite do not work ? But gneugnegneugneu Muay thaï is violent ^^ Man you a funny dude , you don't know nothing about about martial art...Coz otherwise you would never say that kinf of stuff.Just stop pretending on the net becasue you got into martial arts during the Khabib/Mcgregor era.
0:00 - Intro
0:15 - Escrime / Fencing
0:35 - Canne de combat
1:20 - Bâton / Stick
1:55 - Double Bâton / Double Stick
2:15 - Savate & Boxe Francaise / Savate & French Boxing
3:20 - Analyse de l'assaut / Assault analysis
4:00 - Roger Lafond
4:10 - Exercise de classe / Class exercise
4:45 - Femmes à la canne / Women with cannes
5:50 - Panaché
6:30 - Exemple / Example
I find it partly interesting & mostly insulting that people would think Savate must be influenced by the Orient.. Celtic, Roman,& Germanic cultures have been a force militarily through out history.
As for Boxe Francaise/ Savate, the French military taught it all over the world. There is clear documentation of the French arts being taught throughout Asia for hundreds of years.
As for the constantly repeated yet never researched "French sailors picked it up in China" crap. The art of Chausson was
I mean look at at some of the old fighting manuels and you will see a lot of the techniques , even dating back to the 13th ct. Kicks , grappling strikes ,joint locks ,ect!!! Fiore die liberie shows a side kick in one of his plays, and people tried to tell me the side kick came from asian ma . And pankration has kicks, punches , joint locks ,ect. And that dates back to the bc times!!!
Thank you for sharing this video. Roger LaFond was a great martial artist. I remember seeing him in the Savate episode of The Human Weapon. He is missed!
These guys are Supreme cool. Way ahead of their time. This was in the 60s they were doing cool stuff like this! Roger Lafond will be greatly missed.
@humbleboxer1 Absolutely. In Tao of Jeet Kune Do, Bruce Lee even discusses several Savate techniques.
Wow this is awesome. I can definitely see the elements JKD borrowed from as well as Bill Wallace. Wallace has never come out officially and stated being include by Savate, but I've always felt that his kicks were Savate kicks
A fascinating clip - it's made me want to see more of French fighting styles. Thanks for posting!
The LaFond book on boxing is one of the essential texts for the sport
That's not what Thai Boxing legend Ramon Dekker thought after his contest with Savateur Francois Pennacchio...
@zedoc76 You guys are amazing and I have the highest respect for Mr. Lafond.Congratulations at reaching 95 years young hopefully with at least 95 more years to go! Lolol.I love the way that you guys train fencing,savate and le canne and how realistic it is.
@1saxonwolf the sailors art. The hands needed to be placed on the deck when the boat swayed to maintain balance when the martial "game" was played. The "game" was also played in the streets of France. Look at these similarities between Chausson , Moring(Reunion island) & Capoeira. Interesting to note that Reunion island off Madagascar is French & that the French had a major influence one time in Brazil. One of the earliest Capoeira songs says it was taught by sailors & sings of the motion of
Looks like this was filmed sometime in the late '50's or 1960's. Great stuff. (Wish t his were available on dvd...subtitled.)
@1saxonwolf the boat. Coincidence ??
Savate/boxe francaise has the sport which evolved from the combat art. Savate, boxe francaise, chausson, lutte parissiane, panache, the stick arts canne & baton all make up Savate as shown here by one of the last old school lineages.
Un reportage toujours aussi intéressant!
C'est moi où le bretteur/canniste/batonnier/tireur gris ressemble étrangement à Superfab ?
The best master 😍💪🏻💪🏻 this school is still alive 🔥🥊
4:50 wow, how many women was interested in martial arts at this time.
Still a lot today, we got 45% of women in my club .
Interesting. there is a video where the provence region president of French boxing says that Chausson Marseillais is the ancestor of savate, and that it originally came from ancient Greece, passed through Italy-the city of Genova-before arriving in Marseiiles aand spreading to the rest of France where it became French boxing. The video is called ".Chausson Marseillas - SAVATE"
This is completely false...
@UFMD1 Indeed! Cossack dancing can be seen as practice for combat and horse riding. Interestingly, I have a vid somewhere of the South African singer Johnny Clegg talking about learning Zulu dancing and he comments that to learn the dances you had to learn the MA's first as this was what many dance moves were based on.
la boxe française méthode Charlemont était un art martial redoutable adapté au combat de rue.
malheureusement , au fil du temps , comme bon nombre d ' arts martiaux , en l ' épurant des techniques dites dangereuses pour satisfaire aux règles de la compétition , c ' est devenu un simple sport de combat
C'est exactement ça! C'est un vrai massacre culturel et martial!
@ Au fait, qu'en pense Superfab de cette vidéo: fait elle justice à la Méthode R&J Lafond ?
Great stuff. Interesting how light on the feet they are. Is this anything to do with dancing? Step dancing was popular in France for centuries.
@zedoc76 Heaven may grandmaster Roger LaFond rest in peace.
I wished I had mastered savate when I was young
@zedoc76 You must be proud! Parden me asking but did they say that Savate had some Asain influence (Bando and Muay Thai) as some say or is it (as I beleave) developed independently?
Still trying to figure wtf that move @ 4:15 is for. I mean it wont hurt someone nor knock them down even if you were to catch them kicking with the other leg and having one foot planted.
It's a turning heel kick if my eyes don't deceive me. Can be really painful, actually.
Savate uses heavy steel toe n heel boots...it's what there known for. If the shit hits ur Achilles ur in a world of pain...watch the savate world championships. It sweeps the shit out of opponents when it lands. Would u like to see the fight video?
Really? What about his superior footwork?
Interesting.
Formidable 🙏
Great video, thanks for posting. I wonder how much of it is from asian influence, through the French presence in southeast asia, versus developing independently. Probably very hard to say now.
no measure… it’s quite the opposite 😉 see the history of karate in France…. and Vietnamese martial arts for example…
Is there anyone who can translate is, so we can understand it better?
Bruce Lee used elements of this and studied much more of it. Along with Muay Thai and Bando.
Bill Wallace replicated a Taekwondo champion (skipper mullins) to develop his multiple kicking style.
I want lern savate
@humbleboxer1
a ton of that stuff is in Kung fu, Tae kwon do and karate as well.
Not only in Savate.
Why that? because karate and taekwondo are influenced by the savate 😉
well you have to admit that that is some serious canning techinques, with almost same potential as japanese or shaolin tehcniques. But french savate is still not comparable to taekwendo or thai boxing
Thai boxing has become a style of betting... where the logic of receiving blows is in the spotlight. you're going to take a hit from a boiled leather shoe... or from a hard-soled city shoe... you can't 😉 the slipper is a fencing because the shoes don't take a beating.
The French sure love their caning...
Yes we *canne*
@1saxonwolf o nvm mind u already said that :D
I caoch Jean Marais in The mystery of Paris
Interesting, their footwork looked really shitty at first, but slowed down you could see how the awkward looking bouncing & stepping set up their next kick.
Look up savate....they fight n train with heavy boots that's why...it's kind of there thing..
and yet in the Lafond method everything is milimeterized 😉
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@tonyvalente
except in his case it works. these two are kind of off-balance. their moves don't look effortless at all.
То, что этот "бокс" французы привезли из Сиама и сделали из него пародию на муай, известно из истории, но почему-то умалчивается. И еще более странно, что "это" было введено в свое время в боевое самбо! Любой тайский или лаосский пацан, с полгода практикующийся в муае, сделет такого чемпиона в пару секунд.
😂😂😂 don't say stupid things …. Thai boxing has become a style of betting... where the logic of receiving blows is in the spotlight. you're going to take a hit from a boiled leather shoe... or from a hard-soled city shoe... you can't 😉 the savate is a fencing because the shoes don't take a beating.
You mean the fillipinos didn't invent stick fighting?! What will we do now?
men in tights ..
...who can put their foot in your balls
much in common with jkd
bummercal
Indeed as Bruce Lee inspired himself from Savate and also the french Cane. to create JKD,
So much better that the useless asian martial arts and their useless "katas and forms."
French martial arts have forms. So do a lot of European martial arts. During the 19th and the first half of the 20th century, which is around the time that most "traditional" martial arts, like karate, kung fu, tkd etc... developed, forms were used extensively in Western martial arts as well. In many cases, they very likely actually borrowed the West's ideas of forms when they implemented the modernisation of their armies and school systems.
no waiiii!
@dospooks french sailers picked it up in asia.
They did not.
False
This is not fight! This is a ballet!
Игорь Иванов
Man it's slow to allow the camera to see properly the moves !
You also have to see modern canne and bâton.
no it’s fencing 😉
uhaaa.....son los juegos nupciales de los homosexuales franceses
Russia is losing against Ukraine.
Keep crying and coping.
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